#645 – Going Into Lockdown/
- March 22, 2020
Now that we’re going into lockdown, we chat about Tommy’s latest purchase, some of the new thoughts we’ve had since coronavirus started and how to better support and engage with the community and those around you.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Victoria going into lockdown
– Tommy’s latest purchase
– What’s being bought this week
– New thoughts we’ve had
– Thinking about the community
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 645. Happy Sunday guys what's going on? In Victoria? Lots of things are happening. There's just been an official statement about lockdown official statement that requires a follow up statement, which is weird because this the state of Victoria is going into lockdown. But no one really knows what it means. And so this is a statement which I'll read to you. This is from the premier. The Honourable, many of you had that in front of you name. Josh, the honourable
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What are you going to do to
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I wonder if he's just premiers? Can you look up Sage? How do you get the honourable because I want it we all want it. I think
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if you actually finish a whole chicken Parma within three minutes
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Yeah, there was a there's a chicken PAMA up in the Chuka I think it is called palm mageddon It's just it's the body wide view and I put together how many chickens?
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The official statement by the way.
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All right, here we go. statement from the premier. I will inform national cabinet tonight that Victoria will present proceed over the next 48 hours to implement a shutdown of all non essential activity across our state to combat the spread of coronavirus. This is not something that we do lightly, but it's clear that if we don't take this step more Victorians will contract coronavirus. Our hospitals will be overwhelmed and more Victorians will die. Victoria will still be able to go to the Victorian sorry will still be able to go the supermarkets the bank, the pharmacy and other essential stores like petrol stations and convenience stores, freight logistics and home delivery also considered essential and will remain open. I will inform national cabinet that school holidays will be brought forward in Victoria starting on Tuesday. By the 24th of March, all measures to be implemented by Victoria, consistent with the health advice provided by the Victorian chief chief health officer. The decision whether to reopen schools after the term one holidays, will likewise be determined following advice from the chief health officer. I'll have more to say on the measures tomorrow morning. So they're saying that what are the essential he's kind of said, roughly mentioned what the essential services are, but they have done a edit in the caption and said, Please note, we are waiting on a conference, I confirm list of essential services.
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I mean, it's interesting that they've said they're moving school holidays forward, because it's really just shutting down schools. Right. It just by saying moving it forward, all of a sudden it's it takes the sting, potentially, yeah, yeah. I understand that. Try not to freak out kids. Maybe But,
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Josh, you said to me over text that you were feeling agitated, speaking to somebody who wasn't taking it seriously. And I was listening to Sam Harris's latest podcast where he said that he's been feeling like that, while speaking to people, some of his close friends that aren't taking it seriously. And I'm in the same boat. I've caught the bug, which is I haven't caught I don't have coronavirus,
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irritable. The the less, the less deadly irritable. Yeah. Not happy that he's made. No. Use advice.
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Yeah. I'm, yeah. I mean, I'm infuriated by some of these people. Yeah, I just, you know, because it's, there's one thing to be listening to fake news. And there's another thing to be informed by very smart people. And most of my friends are the very smart people that I'm being informed by, like,
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you know what I mean? It's just so I saw a funny meme, which was like, I don't know who to believe. Yeah, I'm hearing two different stories. Yeah, one from the world leading doctors and the other. Some dude I went to school with.
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Everything changed for me when I read the article last night by john, somebody, I sent it to you guys, if you read it if you do any homework, I don't think you did send it to us. I said he did in a slack. I sent it to him and I said, you have to read this article. He said it.
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Yeah. I had read that. Yeah.
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JOHN Daly.
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JOHN Daly? Dude. JOHN, he's got his head screwed on. I want john is my friend that I listened to. JOHN laid out three endgame or you could look at them as scenarios or daily the goal? No, okay. No. I
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just know I just googled because john Daly is a good offer. Real quick. Dude, if you go on Google Images, you've got to look at looking
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john Daly. Isn't he fat? He's like, the best golfer I know. Yeah, he's, he's gonna be he looks like Shane Warne. Just in one times, Donald Trump. It'd be like if shame on Kentucky because shame on got ripped. Or he got a lot of surgery. Or, you know, he went down a health kick. After being the guy that smokes and drinks beers after a game of cricket professional. He looks like
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you know, shame on just went hard for another 30 years. My favourite photo you've got a Google john Daly. Everyone's got time now. The just the photos of him having a ciggy whilst playing golf. He's a very eccentric guy and he wears the most outrageous pants including the American flag dance. I mean, golf.
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Golf is one of the things that you can be not in the best of need, but still be an absolute weapon. Yeah, like it's just all in the form of No, but back to that article, the end game like this, john Daly that the non golfer john Daly, he lays out three, three in games. one's pretty much how we've been tackling it, and how that ends up. And then two and three and three, in game C, which he calls it a, b and c, in game C is a complete shutdown of Australia for the next eight to 12 weeks, which I'm 100% in supportive.
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Glad you are Tommy, official word from you. If you're not
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always thinking about like, you see people I haven't posted anything on social media. I guess you know, like, well, if you think about it, not everyone has a podcast that they do every day. This is that version for me. And I was I made the decision that I want to make my my words known.
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That's right. But I don't know where we go from here. What are we doing Now hold the I was just watching beforehand, before the podcast the AFL CIO. So his his skill is that hey, Mrs. Yeah, you've met Hamish, we've failed Hamish McLaughlin, because I'm like, man, they sound exactly the same man. They've got the same last name. C's bro. Okay, yeah, great yet seems like a lovely guy power power brothers Hmm. And so you have very obviously sad looking as he would as they had to cancel postpone the AFL until the 31st of May. I just don't know what planet they were living on. On Thursday when they announced that we're going to push on like, Well think of it, I guess Think about it this way. What they're saying is they were speaking to the person who was the minister, not the Minister for Health, but the person who's responsible in this time and that's the federal level. And the recommendations were to go on until an artists So the thing is, if you're running a business, if you have a bunch of stakeholders, all that sort of thing, we're in a lucky position where as a small business, you and I make the decision. Yeah, we don't have hundreds of employees and it doesn't like it, although it impacts us. It's not the difference between surviving not only as a business, but as an industry. And so they are looking at like, Okay, this is a huge impact, not just to the AFL. But then as we've had gronckle, in from Florida, who does all of the sports stats and things like that those businesses, you know, they had huge layoffs.
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Yeah, look, and when I say I'm all for shutting it down for eight to 12 weeks, I mean, I kinda I get the implications it's going to have on the economy, but if you look at the health implications it's going to have on Australia, it far isn't there's no economy. There's
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There's 45,000 people that will end up with coronavirus, and that's why it's the government's job to intervene.
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Yes, it's very hot like I think it's very A lot to ask for these bigger businesses when they're not being told by the government to do it. I mean, the thing was, we were we were inside, working from home self isolating whilst people were still out and about like, nothing was happening. Yeah. And so that was an easy choice for us. But format, john made a good point. It's like, at least in game C, everyone understands if you knew that for eight weeks, like you put into your diary, and it's like, it could be 12. But you put it into your diary and you batten down the hatches for eight weeks. And you you deal with it, but at least you know, what, like, and they would have time to start tracking and start, you know, just having it slow a bit, hopefully. And so. So, the one thing that I'm curious about is, will I get my fancy mat?
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I did you buy one? Yeah.
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This is expansion,
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I think are supposed to still going
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on as post is still going under essential services. Interestingly, I was listening to a podcast with a guy who's in California and he was saying that even though they're on lockdown podcasting is considered an essential service. Oh, yeah, I guess communications and stuff
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similar to that. What was that? Sorry? Sounds like music and stuff.
10:26
Yeah, I guess so. I mean, they're doing technology news, but yeah, it's I mean, the good thing about what we're doing is that we can do it without it being you know, in practice, by the way, Lisa's saying in the chat, we need free right now. So many will be lost without it. Yes, Lisa, but better be lost than dead. And she also said love the plant life at Mason's house, Mays, what's the deal with them? The watering situation? How do you make sure that one you get enough water and two that you don't Get it waterlogged and it factory shelf
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was so all of them have a little container in the back like a little plastic tray at the bottom. So over Yeah, it's not going to spill everywhere. But we've got this worm juice, we got a little like compost bin with a worm, we've got a worm farm and so it it their peers is called worm juice. And so if you dilute that with a bit of water, I get like a milk bottle with and just like put it on the milk. Juice. I load dilute dilute it down so there's like, I don't know like that much. And then you dilated one. Yeah, and so and then I just go around and maybe once a week I probably wore them but you're gonna, you're gonna test them. How
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about this? How about this? I use everything on our fabric Catherine Abbotsford. They have it's where we did our 500 I've got like a forest. If that cafe closes for the foreseeable future, based on this, who's watering the plants? Yeah. There's a lot of plants gonna die. This is true. Oh man, it's just, I just I've been thinking about all of those. Just the flow on effects all the impact. And so anyway, I today guys, I'm sorted. I call Josh today and said, Mike, can I put something on the business as
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we did, which only you can do because you're going to you promise that you create content?
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Well, we can write it off as a as a production expense. And I'm going to be not sure when it could be some night this week, or I'm sorry, Sunday this week. I reckon we do it at night, JJ. You can see at night, it has to be at night, I bought a fire pit and I've bought wood. And I've bought chairs throughout the back and I'm going to do a campfire episode says like, we're at home. We're doing a campfire. And I'll have I'll have my laptop out there. I'll have my good mic, and a lot will be set up and we can it sounds
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annoying logistically
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Yeah. Look one episode. I'm happy to do it. It's actual setup. That's annoying. It is. Episode but you know that's that's what you bought into. But Lisa is pumped about the campfire app I know grace will be there. Not everyone. I mean not everyone can I mean yeah, we do it on fire drink. But if you've got a fire at home you could do a fire Have you YouTube going on your phone and have a we do a campfire episode? I know you got Josh you could get up on a screen in your apartment. Yeah,
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I think people care projector would be great. Like Imagine if you got a hills hoist. You got to you've got a light like
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not just a one that lifts out like a
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get a sheet and project onto the sheet everyone that would be cool.
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Harry, let me know that you can on that. I'm definitely King.
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Right. So you just need to get I mean I see the challenge. Her rooms in Colombia. He's saying we've were quarantined until April 13. What can small businesses do video production services? Big fan? Do you think? Yeah, I think being in video production, we can speak to it a little bit. I think it is pretty challenging. If you are sort of a traditional cinematographer who does their, you know, day, right, and he's booked out every single day. And they're they're an owner of a, you know, a red or something like that. You're doing big TVC stuff. It's going to be hard. Yeah. But I'm already seeing people in this space, do interesting things like providing education online building communities. I think it's a good time for people who have existing communities as well. Yeah. But there's obviously a move at the moment to streaming and obviously the thought around post production because you can do that from anywhere. Yeah, but I think like in the grand scheme of things video the video production industry compared to many other industries, we're actually probably a little bit luckier than many.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, you can definitely see the in the future the opportunities in terms of when we're on the comeback, which we don't know how long they'll be. But it's tough. I just spent I spent half an hour speaking with my brother just about how long he's got. You know how much cash he's got to last and the reality is not many people have a runway of three months
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to to an even if you have a runway you can't find the plane anymore.
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Yeah, grounded grounded. You're not going anyway. But I think it's beyond that. I'm not even looking at personal runway because it's it. It is a flow on effect. If I can't pay my rent, the mortgage can't be paid on the other side. The bank doesn't by the
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fireplace through the business. You Everything's become a business expense.
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Yep.
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Oh, yeah, we could claim rent we could actually, on our own,
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you'll be the kind of rent. I'll be interesting. I mean, yeah, there are definitely I'm finding it hard to navigate and understand all of these measures that are being put in place by the government are like tax incentives and tax credits and things like that. So we definitely need to get Jason from RBK. Yeah. We,
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yeah. So we had a, we had a chat with our accountant zoom call on Wednesday. Since that, there's been about three announcements. Yeah.
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And 66 billion bucks, I think in extra. Yeah. The point,
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I think, I think there's for small business owners that aren't rocking an accountant where their high touch point and they will be able to offer them the services. Yeah, let's get him on because I think think about Josh, when you were a freelancer, the early days like myself, and we didn't Have a accountant that we could go to constantly and, and that would give us time, you know, every week. Like he, like our accountant will be lodging everything for us. And that's not everyone's situation. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to be able to help people understand how to get the cash from the government how to lodge this stuff. How to find out what they're eligible for.
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Yeah. Lisa says I said I'd come for the Barbie but I'm stuck in red light. You can actually cook on the fireplace Can you
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now beaded beaded fences? I'll put on a Barbie.
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Okay, that makes sense.
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Yeah. Oh, Briar. Yeah, right Bobby? I know. It's a different slightly different. No, Josh, I opted for the one. So I I said to Josh. Matt. Do you like cuz I got no cash. We get paid today, but I got no cash paid today, by the way tomorrow. Okay,
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I'm calling right today. Yeah, we can take that off.
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Let's go you go through it. Yeah, I will pay it through today, which it should come through either tonight or tomorrow. Right. Are you happy with that? Yeah, that's good. But so I had no cash and I wanted to run it. Then I asked you off, can I pull it through? And as you I was just reading out a few prices of them and what I love about you, Josh, you're not you're not afraid to spend money. Because you said I look under 200 bucks is pretty good as all this shit.
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Yeah, I mean, don't I think that by once by right, you know?
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Yeah, I mean, your word is quality. So
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yeah, it's all about quality this year, very much so. So
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I almost went for quantity over quality because what I ended up doing was rather than spending 170 jj I spent 140 total. I got a smaller fire place which is a fire pit which I'm happy about because the other one would have been almost the size of my court Yeah. And I got wood and four seats for 140 so it wasn't
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that pretty
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athlete.
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I think it would be better I was expecting you to bring your own would like to cut it down or to have something a little bit. No, no no. So just to get me started. We got
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two packs of wood, some kindling and some Long's and I and so this week I'll be adventure club will be gout adventure club is Bodie and I By the way, we'll be going to the local park to get lots of kindling, lots of stuff that fell down when there was a windy day, probably about two months ago, and there's just shit everywhere. So we'll be going to collect little bits of wood which will say through for at least the way we do some tutorials, some life tutorials I think that I would love to see you doing a fire but one of those reverse I think they called
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upside down fires.
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What is that? upside down fires are? I think they're more effective. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So they, it'd be like you lay a log log log, you know, running sort of left to right. And then the next lot of wood is running from you sort of where you've laid it to the other side. It's almost like you can see my hands. Yeah, see, it's like a What do you call that?
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Oh, my gosh,
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it's a crosshatch sort of thing.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then you sort of layer it up. And then
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yeah, it's I mean, is that an oxygen things because it looks more oxygen in?
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Yeah. I just got a text from Bray, who's in the other room. She said that she's going to her office. So this nurse is going to the office right now. So our office no to her office. So this is one of the things around all this stuff is fulfilment of orders. So If things are changing over the next 48 hours, I guess business, that's why I was worried about my mash that I'm getting delivered. So again, everyone sort of is hands on deck to make sure that they can get as many orders done so that they can be delivered.
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Yeah. Well, I think the unknown again, is the scary bit.
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And so I wonder what happens. Just imagine how many tense conversations there are with people. So for instance, if you're employed, what's the expectation for you in the coming days?
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Well, I think what did I say in that statement? It was 48 hours, which gives us until Tuesday, so that means they're giving us tomorrow to sort it out. And if you can't get sorted in that time,
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how hectic is it going to be tomorrow?
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Yeah, imagine office works. It's your busy lossing
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Wait, I'm so pumped that we That last week we got out like we were awake heads just somewhat. Yeah, this whole thing it's a what a wee time man.
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How are you going? With your your internet?
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We're getting there. I went out today and I've got some new hardware from a company called ubiquity. And as I was almost done saying before we started recording but I had to unplug it and plug in my cheap rata
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people respecting the social distance like we're people keeping distances and things like that. Well,
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yeah, no. Why look? No not in the line. The queue is massive. So we we drove all the way out to sunshine. To go pick it up and the queue there was massive. It would have been 2025 metres to the shop yet inside the computer shop just lined up against the wall.
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And did you because I asked when I was in When we saved and I lost the Monday just gone. We spent all day driving around grabbing stuff, which was great. I asked most of the places we went to what are you selling? what's what's the high demand? And it was screens. It was monitors. So what do you reckon they'll selling says computers and
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monitors, definitely monitors.
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You know when it's leaving and Christmas shopping to light is horrible, leaving your pandemic fucking locked down shopping. That's the that's the Pittsburgh,
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I saw something. Jeff Bezos didn't insist. Insta post. And I appreciated what he said because everyone's saying, you know, it's business as usual. His first line was like, it's, it's not business as usual. It's always funny. It's like business as usual. However, here are the 15 differently. it's business as usual, but now you we can't speak in person. You have to order a new car, and then go in and be tomorrow. Is away.
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Yeah, it's
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it I think now people,
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there was a great post around hoarding. I've got to find out who posted about it. But it was essentially, why do people hoard and so looking at, say the things around the toilet paper and stocking up on on different items. hoarding is something that's done based on a psychological condition or something that's happening to us psychologically, where we feel like we need to be feeling safe or trying to be in control. And so if you think about the last 10 days, how much of all of our purchases have been about the anxieties around the future, and also trying to have a little bit of control and thinking about if I don't get this now, does this mean in four weeks time, I'm lining up for five hours to try and get some toilet paper?
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Yeah. I mean, I feel that I can feel it in myself too. It's, you get it you read a statement like that from the honourable and you think I gotta get down the shops I then say the shops aren't closing the the Supermax I'm closing today. Everyone's she'd like to get down the shop says they're thinking so don't go down the shops today. Unless you have nothing then maybe get in the shop hurry. Go to the shops Yeah, definitely.
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What do you think? What's been the surprise for both of you around what you've been thinking about that you never thought you would have been thinking about?
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You guys first says give me time to think.
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Yeah, I mean I wasn't gonna cuz cuz because I've never been through I guess. This sort of stuff. It's it's interesting observing my reaction and the people around me their reactions. To to everything that's happening and I don't think that the whole the whole idea around like a pandemic and the spread of a virus I've like I've never even thought about that. So that's probably the first thing but yeah, I mean, I guess just like analysing the way that the people around me are doing what they're doing and you know going out and buying stuff or panic buying all that sort of stuff i think is a brand new sort of thought
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and have you What is your actual thought behind it? Has it changed over the last 10 days?
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Yeah, I mean I I've probably become more empathetic to the people that are panic buying at the start it's more just like us this sort of silly thing and what's the point and why you doing it? And and now I guess it it starts to make more sense, but I guess it's final roll of
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fucked up
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Jim Jim Rick's got it sorted. He's really Yeah, he's he's really dialled in. Surely Costco I mean, I could only imagine what Costco is like at the moment. I haven't heard any reports but I wouldn't want it based on bulk
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purchase. My god, I saw a video earlier in the week. Costco, Epping, which is next to the northern health hospital, where they're trading people. The line was 400 metres to get in. Like, really? Like, it's it's not that people aren't going like people are going there. Everyone's going everywhere. Everyone's going to country town. People are going to country towns that don't live in that town. Ryan john, who we're going to hopefully have on the show this week promote. He went to 15 stores and got 100 toilet paper. So if I drove down to his mom's place to pick up toilet paper, really, mommy's right near me, and so he leaves an hour and a half away from us
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is busting to do shit the whole time. I have been
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three is just to get some vulgar oil. What have I been thinking about? I've been thinking about, I went real dark there. I went from thinking about my answer was gonna be money and living in. And so removing so we can all be worrying about cash at the moment. And it's like if I don't go to work tomorrow, my I don't have enough sick leave to eat into you know like so I have to and so it's like really it's looking at what is life look like like with zero money like fuck all money like money's not the worry. It's like survival and being up against something that is super dangerous is more of the concern over how much cash Do we have how much say like when we were all brought back down to a level playing field? What does that look like?
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yeah and then I feel like there's something yeah Matt as you said much bigger than have that?
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Yeah. And so I've been thinking about having no cash, like having nothing to my name, and everyone in the same boat, and what does that existence look like? And so where are we? And then where's our focus go to? If it has been around, you know, worrying about money so much. It's like, you just have none. And we're trying to look for government, like, what does that existence look like for our mind and for our culture and for our society, like a society. But then I went to thinking about I don't think about this much, but the older people in my life, my parents, and this affecting them. And so, you know, you can get pretty emotional thinking about thinking about, like my mom's 70, but they fit unhealthy, but still, they're of the older population that are affected by this. And so that is some I think their new thoughts that you don't have just week to week. Because, you know, if they're, you know, my parents are fit and healthy. But then if there's something like this, it's like, you throw that in the mix. And then that brings a whole new thought pattern, which is your most don't want to enter it, you know, almost I want to go there. But what about you, JJ?
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Yeah, I think I heard someone say the other day around, it feels like we're living out what will one day be in the history books? Hmm. I feel that I feel it's like, you know, the the big things in history that we look back on, it's like, man, we can't imagine a time where there was the Nazis or there was, you know, world wars or things like that. And were only, you know, within Australia, a few weeks in very, very early stages of all of this stuff. And so, I think that this, what I'm thinking about is how this will change. Everything. And I hope that the way that we it is the change does happen is in a positive way, where we look to the people stuff that the human side of life because I think that that's as we're starting to have to self isolate and you know, socially distance or whatever you want to call it, all of a sudden, you're starting to realise those really small things in your life. So, for Bri, it's her appreciation of being able to go to the gym every morning, which I know that for a lot of people, that's the thing. And, you know, I think that hopefully we walk away with an extra level of gratitude for all of the things that we have
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different things that are super easy in our life. We don't you don't ever have that thought process. Yeah.
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It's interesting. And yeah, I guess the other thing too, is that some It's a real interesting game in attachment to things.
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Yeah. And ambition.
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Yeah. And so, you know, you hear comedians talking about, you know, Lewis Spears, who we've had on the show before he was talking about, I had my 18 month game plan sorted. I was doing the comedy shows, which would then get my, you know, what's it called Live, like recording all of these, you know, special, then do the overseas trip and perform there. And it's like, that's all been wiped out for him. And so, when we think that we have so much control when we think that we're so smart, and that we're going to nail the game, when the game changes, all of a sudden, I think that it's can be a humbling experience for a lot of people.
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Yeah. If you can, if you can have this self awareness or the self analysis On how silly worrying about mundane shit in the past is in a time like this. It's It's comforting. I was at this psychologist this week. And I was saying, you know, the whole reason I wanted to go was some hard time that just, I felt like I was dealing with earlier on which was, which was nothing really it was just, you know, it was just life that just feels hard at the time. But then it's like it gets to this and it feels like it seems like it should be the harder time. But I don't feel that right now.
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I think maybe it doesn't not feel like for me it doesn't feel as hard because the there is sort of a global or universal goal that we're all working towards. And like most of the tension within my life is I have an idea of the direction that I think We should go in and when else isn't a different direction. And that happens within business that happens within personal life. And so, with this, we sort of do have that universal need. At one point, which I feel like it actually is bringing us all together.
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Right? The grind is done. like think about the grind, the business grind, the the ambitious grind to achieve your goals and all that shit. Right now. The grind is over. And it's a different focus. I haven't watched any like his Gary Vee. Have you seen any content? I don't know. I feel like he's, uh, he's, he's a maniac who's quite self aware. That seems outrageous at times. So garage sales, is buying his magic stuff I think make Gary Vaynerchuk VaynerMedia. Yeah. I mean, that guy has a challenge ahead of him. I feel for the bloke. It's hundreds of staff It was a redundancies lot yet. A lot of his clients. I mean, just the the economy is stopping New York City is stopped.
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Yeah. And I do and you and I have spoken about this, but the idea around people trying, I understand, especially I understand it in places like the fitness industry, because that's been, you know, massively disrupted. And I've seen so many owners of gyms and things like that and doing online courses and like moving all of that and just completely shifting their business from something that's all in person to something that's completely online. But it is, it is hard to watch. To see everyone trying to pivot and and I do wonder, I think that it's harder for some industries to do it more than others. I think that it can be it can be difficult for some of those.
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Yeah. I says so true. TJ, our priorities have shifted and it's making us all consider everyone around us more.
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Definitely. It's, I mean, the core need of community. How do you fulfil that like a lot of people as much as if you're, you know, homebody, there is still some community you want to feel a part of, whether it's your besties from school, or people the gym that you get to see what you know, like, extraversion, or whatever, it's like, we need to feel like we belong and so that yeah, I mean, this is just the time it's all shifting. And so I feel like I said, yesterday's podcast, I hope people can feel like that. And I'm inspired by showing up daily and not doing it repre recording, you know, if if one of us is sick, or when, like, we can drop in or whatever it be, but we can do it remote. So it's Yeah, that's what I'm grateful for that.
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Definitely. It's a daily talk show. We says we should definitely start messaging the VIP gronk when we're going live, can we do that?
37:09
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
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Yeah. So if you want to become a VIP gronk you just go to the daily talk show.com Ford slash gronk. I've gone through and I've, we've we had about 60 different people that will sending stickers to from all over the world. And I'm, I've nearly finished, I've been hand writing. I hope I'll get this done in you know,
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effectively, hours.
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And then I just like definitely don't it's takes a long time. One thing we
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do by JJ was stamps Have you got stands
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now, so I was just thinking of them at the post office. That's an essential service. So yeah, I'll just go in and I've separated international versus domestic and I'll just like, Guys, what does it was it costs I've got limited to 100. That's my go to, you know, under 200 to go
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now, but you need to get a good Lisa said I get a good deal so
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is it a good deal? It's pretty small to be honest.
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My fire pit Yeah What do you name when you make it out with a big fire pit bright? No,
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no, I just felt lucky. You finally got a very small family because I reckon you wouldn't give many people. A small a small backyard. It makes sense for how big my backyard it's tiny. Interestingly, I was talking to scooter Derek. His kids had a one of their friends had a birthday party. And it was it was all remote and they had a well that's fun, but they do have a cake. It was a bit of a nightmare because he lit the candles for the cake. And then they sang Happy Birthday But hang on. You can't blow them out.
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Because you know
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coronavirus so he had to was a bit of a clusterfuck he burned his hand removing the candles. There's a lot of wasn't everyone
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remote
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but it's a bit that I didn't understand there must have been. He could
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have blown it out.
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No. Even if he has a family. He doesn't want to do it.
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Yeah. So it must have been for whatever reason he was in charge of the cake.
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Yeah, now I get it. Thank you might lick your fingers and then I can't do that because you've touched it. You know? What's going on?
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Anyway, it's a daily talk show. Tomorrow we've got Shana Kennedy on the show.
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I do we Yeah. didn't even know that. 10am I mean, we've got it in the calendar. But
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yeah, and so she's she's been doing the whole remote thing for like 20 years. So yep, you'll have a lot to say I reckon about that. Let it incites otherwise, cinema guys