#644 – The Transition To Remote Work/
- March 21, 2020
We chat about dialling in our admin, playing games and being productive, job security and employment, and the transition to the future of work.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Dialling in our admin
– Zoom parties
– Games and being productive
– A quarantine reset
– Security and being employed
– Changing how you work
– The transition to the future of work
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 644. What's happening guys? Happy Saturday.
Saturday evening. It's a bit different from yesterday show less faces.
Yeah, it was. I love just the show. It was very overwhelming at the start.
Yeah, I think it was. It's an overwhelming time. And we didn't over when we think my son has just woken up. And you may hear him crying in the background. But do you remember when you would nap? and wake up and be really upset? Did you remember that? Joshua seemed to remember everything for now. I don't remember that. He years ago. I didn't I feel like I didn't nap. He didn't know he would. Surely nap JJ. Why didn't you nap?
I just, I can't remember. I feel like I've always just slept. Normal at
came at just working nine to five
Are they? Yeah, no, I actually don't remember one thing I do remember, though, was just when my parents had friends over, and I would, you know, you would hear them, you know, you'd hear the sounds of clinking glasses and stuff like that you'd sort of go down stairs or wherever, if they
don't you remember being or what about this one then? Like, so tired, like in pain? Like, I think when you're younger, it was, it's like staying up even to like, nine 930 I remember being out with my parents for dinner. Or that's, you know, a family friend's house, especially my cousins. It was always my cousin's place. And I'd be so tired. I'd feel just Ill do you know, Now. Now.
Now, I do remember like when you'd go to people's houses, and then the idea of leaving was very traumatic. You didn't want to leave. No, five more minutes, five more minutes.
If I had this bodies' thing, five more minutes, and then all the kids at daycare, they know it's there. All like five minutes they must all just I've got let's tell them it's five minutes I just had a when before guys went for drive 20 cans of petrol left and petrol sparked up at the start of the week it was very low and it's jumped up to like nearly dollar 60 and I was like held off three petrol stations got to $1 15 Berg right
take the differences isn't a huge differences currently in the petrol depending on where you go.
Yeah, well I was biking,
right it should be I think it was united in with Deacon knee Deakin University burwood grenaded burwood. I mean that by the time this you're listening to this, it's probably like, we're all gone
in in isolation, I feel like it's a good opportunity to pick up things that we've once forgotten about.
I mean, I've got a lot of admin in my mind that I want to get through now. Wake
up sort of beaming to three things. What are you wanting to do?
I need to dial in our assets. spreadsheets. Yeah. incorporating all the gear we've bought this liquidators. So here for the liquidators, I need to Basecamp a bunch of sort of links and information.
And we're going to use Basecamp.
Yeah, I think we definitely do. Okay. We could probably leave it on hold until we get back from
get back for I guess we could use it for some of these bigger projects that we're taking on. I definitely think so.
Then, the other one is my house, I want to get, I want to throw out shit and I want to have more space. And I could potentially have the garage I could have got a lot of exercise equipment still. But I could maybe just sort of dust off and create a bit of a workout zone because there's no gym memberships going on my gym membership actually finishes I luckily I cancelled it. finishes in about a week's time at Fitness first. So, and I didn't sign up to the new gym that I was telling you.
That's good. That worked out. Well. What about you? What are you what what admin Have you got planned?
A bunch of internet admin. I have my NBN installed today. It was actually the bloke who came in and sold it. He was an absolute legend.
What's his name?
Well, you're looking at it. I know because I have his contact in my phone just in case. You say hi.
What would you be more excited about Talley coming over to watch Netflix or your NBN being installed?
I mean, mbmb installed until you plug in the the router you need NBN y if he's got fast NBN it means that he can FaceTime with grace
Oh, that's a good idea. That would be fun to do a zoom. And it have one of the inputs is Netflix. They could Netflix and chill.
Yeah, well, there's been a lot of zoom parties happening. You've seen Instagram. Sorry, Facebook, I've seen a bunch of photos. My sister in law, she was just walking around the house with their laptop. And there was probably four or five people on the zoom party for Friday night and really any
every time you say a laptop, I started
yeah, there was a classic YouTube channel trailer for us for a long time.
Yeah, I think also, I brought I brought home a bunch of my hard drives. So I have access to too old stuff and I was thinking you could just I'm just gonna start travel vlogging from home posting our videos. is nicer. I could be the leading travel blogger vlogger bit
insensitive if you're in Europe, whilst Europe thousands of people are dying
has made nearly as many Oh, Dr. Christian, do you know who he is? No, no. Dr. Christian is from embarrassing bodies. My favourite. So embarrassing bodies that show it's just like, people come in with really sort of fucked up medical conditions. One guy came in okay is my favourite episode I got obsessed with the show. Dr. Christian, I think was Dr. Christian basically looked at his asshole. And because he came in and said, it's leaking, there's something going on. He's response after he gave him a thorough examination. I think it was Dr. Christian said. You need to revisit your wiping technique. This bloke had no issue. He just didn't wipe his ass properly. And he thought he's asked us like anyway, that's Dr. Christian. Why did you bring it up? Dr. Christian got in a lot of trouble for tweeting about Italy. I want to find this tweet Hang on, doctor because I was on his Instagram at about three, four. And this morning I woke up buddy buddy woke me up. What do they want? Buddy Buddy just pissed himself and I got into our bed twice Dr. Christian tweets
you need to dial in your autofocus I know
I just I just saw and then
the camera doesn't see serves as a person so
yeah he's a robot Yeah. And so he says easily using coronavirus as a as an excuse to stop working and siesta. Oh Jesus. So he said that and people have just ripped him apart. And I like in one in one sentence like, Is it
even being funny?
Well, I don't think it's him being because a malicious I can only assume it's him trying to sort of like point out that they just are pretty relaxed which the Italians is a Junker
Is it a Or is it sort of a bit sort of, you know,
or as in? I think he's joking saying it in a joking manner. I mean,
you're the joke guy. Is it a junk night? They?
Yeah, I don't have funny though.
I mean, we did we put up a snippet site, if you say, yeah, it was the one time
I say it as a joke, but Josh actually says that he's like, funny. I'm actually funny. Are you telling me once you're like, No, I'm funny. I mean, you've
done a stand up that Josh at the studio.
Yeah, there's no doubt that I'm funny. But it's, I like that you sort of align yourself with being funny. But um,
Dr. Christian, definitely missed the mark there. According to the Italians. And it's all these Italian people writing into his Twitter account is think about, don't fuck with the Italians that are all at home on Twitter.
They got time. Yeah, you're getting cancelled for that, Josh. Well, that's fine to say it seriously. Let's go time though.
Yeah, I mean, look at look at people's. I'm imagining what screen time would be up. Let's just do a quick screen around the screen screen time. Can we?
Okay, great. So if you want to play at home, going to your settings, put it on Insta stories and tag us up. So yeah, what your screen time has been like,
oh, I'll screenshot my screen time. So it's reading time. And what do we want a daily average for last week? What do we want daily average? See all activity weekly. So you go week, which then gives you daily average. Don't miss that. You got six hours and 43 minutes? Oh,
you guys saves 6027 minutes. Oh,
guess what? I'm in the middle. I was in 36 minutes.
How many hours on Instagram for you guys?
Oh, God. Eight hours and 58 minutes?
Is that for the week?
That's for wake. Yeah. Okay.
What do you 13 and a half hours. Yeah, yeah. 16 hours.
I'm on Insta. So wait, what's your top app? Then?
My top apps Instagram that follows my one. Yeah, they say this is the one that's never been in there but it has made in their Instagram, Facebook, YouTube Safari spark news.com. Today you
got the app? No,
no. Safari. No, it just comes up with like a website that has been most viewed. I don't even know it did that.
30 minutes on the verge calm.
That's a lot of time on tech. What's happening in tech serves like during something like the crisis that we're experiencing what happens to tech.
I mean, there's I mean, the verge is doing a lot of stuff on the
Now, they're actually doing a lot of stuff on like the virus and stuff Apple just released a new
and I and an iPad with cable which looks sick.
Is that just a laptop at that point?
Yeah, I mean, pretty much. It's like It's like a floating screen when you put the iPad on the so it's gonna stand. It's an iPad with the stand and a cable again. It's great though, anyway, but there's also been like PS five and Xbox. I don't know what they call it the Xbox x or something like that x one. specs announce which way this is. So Microsoft has
released a new
note that just released the specs for it. And Sony have released the PlayStation specs as well. And they coming later this year, I think, or next year.
I mean, all the draw the the great launches that would have been planned for last week or this way, or even in the coming weeks. had time to launch anything really.
Yeah. And so if you guys had to pick one sort of game to get into during this time, it could be on any console PC. What would you be playing I've would it be sport would it be racing cars would it be
not not? Grand Theft Auto? I haven't played any of them I've got no interest in Grand Theft Auto Yeah, I used to like playing when our stone but that was when I was 1617 so I don't know what if I see my brother play one of those sort of like the ones that you're I don't know what he's around like I literally those games that used to sort of you can spend weeks and weeks sort of travelling through some sort of sort of scenery. Are they something we can? Yeah, I don't know. Not just a shoot 'em up game something with a bit more story to it. I never know what exists. What is
I mean, I used to love playing the racing games on PlayStation. I literally have one of the steal wheels in the gears and the pedals. And they used to have these 12 hour races and so you'd do like three hour stints and it'd be the same track. You're just going around and around. And then you'd pause it and then come back a couple hours later and do another four hours until we get to 12 hours. It's pretty outrageous. I'll probably do that again.
What What do we think of the idea of doing a meet awake Sims? session?
Oh, absolutely not. Geez, is
this like Sims?
Any? No, Sims a horrible Why? Um, seems boring.
Yeah. Do you remember? It was like a Lego game, which was awesome. Remember playing? It was another. There's you can go on YouTube and just search up all these games and watch the gameplay. And there's a it's from like, 1992 I think it's Mother Goose. On MS DOS, sick.
VIP gronk Lucy she loves playing Sims four as well as she on gronk
I could get the like, Is it is it some multiplayer? Yeah, that's not gonna work out. Seems surely nowadays in 2020 Sims is multiplayer? The the problem with any of these games, I feel like, it's so cute. It's not productive, like I've met and maybe this will shift in this current time, right? Where people do have more time indoors, where they're like, what am I doing? What am I doing
to be productive?
Well, I think it's like, adding to progressing.
So Paul is watching football productive.
No, not necessarily, but it's what I'm saying is for me, I haven't liked playing them now because I'm like, I could be doing something that is helping me move forward educated like, it's like you only reading self help books is because you don't have time for the bullshit. You have time for the mic belief. And so that same mindset is like I think what I've been in where I'm like, If I that's me wasting so much time but I think what I'm saying is maybe it's going to shift based on everyone staying indoors like having so much more time on your hands
with a bit of friends getting into what is currently playing Far Cry for on ps4 what is Far Cry
out I used to play Far Cry three on page say I'm it's pretty cool
like what is it isn't like shooting?
I mean from what I remember you're on like an island and you're just trying to get around and you're fighting baddies and some baddies.
Yeah, it beliefs.
Matisse, right? Well, he's my bit of admin. Bree actually brought it up.
I said, this is the one bit of admin that you're going to tackle. Because you've got this. I mean, you're still gonna work Joshua's we're not working. We're working remote. We're not you know what
I mean? It's gonna change a lot, right? Like it is like the work the work is going to change. It's a lot of it's a it's a type of work and that's very much like project Like we're gonna have our specific things we're going to work on but it's definitely going to be different. I think that one of the important things around this time is being able to with a change of scenery change of everything, it's a good time to like reassess everything that you do.
Well I think it's a reset. So I think how many people are caught in a sort of shout you know, get up breakfast straight to work at the desk, do nothing for an hour, they just sort of waiting through emails. That's I think the feeling I have is there is a reset, where I do feel somewhat productive at home doing this and so it's like a Jerry I don't think I would ever have pushed to work remote like this. If it wasn't for something like this going on in the world. And I don't and I'm not saying it as a bad thing, as in the working from home. Like I think it's,
if you think about, think about when we did our first zoom call coronavirus wasn't really A massive, like when we were having that and we'll trialling that that was just before like, yeah, there would been all the stuff in China. It felt I felt like it hadn't really been a conversation around Italy at that point,
man, I mean, how different is the conversation over a week and a half?
I sort of got my Why didn't I got to I really wanted to work.
from home, here I am. It's, um, as I've said to a few people, we're all on the same playing field. So it doesn't feel like we're alone. Just sort of if we just did this normally, and just all of a sudden got up and
just he could you could not justify it. And so that's like, I am very excited. I hope that it's really like we don't see the deaths and what sort of shit obviously, that they're sort of predicting. But I think that the reset on all of these things are reset on like when you hear When you even hear like the government speaking, they're having to speak in a way that is about society and people and human and because the economy is fact and they know that people what drive the economy and so I think it's it's an interesting time that I hope that at the end of it, things like working from home, it's not novel anymore. It's just something that everyone can do when but even read looking at at every job and saying, Okay, why like, this is actually really important and
yeah, I was getting thrusted into the freelance economy of like for people needing to be able to be at home freelance, they might work for four different businesses from home so that
their day looks like getting up and half day I spent with this company half day spent with that company like, that is the that is going to happen and a huge amount of redundancies to like Even just in the last week and a half, from all around, like friends from all around the world, people in Melbourne, there's so much uncertainty around jobs and what, what I, what I feel is that it's sort of, it's highlighting the thing that I've always felt, which is being employed isn't really secure. It's actually it's a false security. And I think that there's a lot of people who may have not done the thing that they wanted to do because they wanted to do the more secure thing. And now they're sort of forced into a position or a complete relook at what it means to be secure.
I was hearing Rogen talk about how you even think like, Oh, yeah, this is, say two months ago, three months ago, before December even it's like, this is our normal. It's like we don't we don't know what our consistent is based based on it not having enough time, like hundred years ago, we've got it so good Now are we had it so good before this going on, like, think about the luxury of just getting coffee on the weekend just fucking getting coffee. Like that may become an indulgent thing to drink coffee, a $5 latte, like you saw the sort of media attention around these stupid little things that were outrageous, you know, people pointing out the outrageous nature of it. I kind of see the point of that now, dropping six bucks, and when you're making fucking nothing, six bucks is a lot of money on a coffee. And so I mean, and that's where you go, okay? I'm annoyed that I can't spend my six bucks every single day twice a day sometimes. But then there's the other side of going make coffee at home for like 40 cents, and it's good. And so you know, that becomes the norm and then you like that six bucks. I didn't want to I don't want to fucking spend that now, which then shifts the mind it shifts culture
It's also the economy stuff, right? That's why we're seeing huge shifts in road guards to businesses, especially in hospitality cafes, because we are all of a sudden whether it's justified or not. We're all changing our spending. Yeah. Wayne Peters was saying that he used to play VH supercars on PlayStation for hours on end. He also says redundancy suck. been through it once before, and I hope I don't have to go through it again. Well, hopefully why and if it does happen, you've got the answer because on PlayStation
Hayden says I think the initial fear of losing work was higher at the beginning, but we naturally adapt to the times. Might I think, I feel like Amy only today and a bit yesterday is where I was at last week. With you Josh, you and I were just talking on the phone man. You got it. You got the beans you got in fact tuners and I'm off at the shops. I think There's a everyone is unique to where their level of you know, real focus to what it means for them as an individual how it's going to impact them. But there's a lot of lag I think, look at it. Look at all those gronk bond Diabate thousands, they would have been. It would have been 5000 people at that beach. Yeah. It was fucking they sleeping well, what are they living in?
Yeah, Glen from Florida was saying that they've just shut down the beaches and cafes and restaurants here now.
The good bad, bad but good, like,
but then you also say that the mates who were going to massive music events and shit like that and who are now like, I can get him behind social social isolation. It's like Matt UVA. It's great. You four days late and you fucking got already spread it. You've killed 10 eight year olds. Out of the three of us is going to get it first may think annoyingly,
you're you're isolating
right? I just think I probably already have it. I feel like it's my spine. I don't know if it's if that's possible, but I'm, you're born with it just yeah, I'm patient zero. What is
it like? herpes just living?
Yeah, exactly. So if you're watching the video,
you can say that I've just pulled out up pulled up a book. This is marketing. yet. This was the book that I promised that I would rewrite the whole.
Sorry, you didn't just promise, like just saying that just sounds like you just said it out loud. I promise. You told Seth Godin.
He told the man who wrote the book. Yeah, I emailed him
and emailed you back. So you know, he read it. Yeah.
So what I'm going to do is spend my time in isolation, and I'm going to finish the book.
Can we get you to clock your working hours Cuz this
is gonna be cow. What do you reckon? I mean, it's interesting, though, because I mean, this is an interesting conversation around the work stuff. Because my whole thing is always around doing stuff output. If you're not used to if you're not used to the idea of working from home and sort of controlling your own time, yeah, there are there are. Yeah, I think that you and you're very much this way I think around like us on seat. You know, getting Long, long hours being at the desk. But I think, exactly, but I think that there is the reality of of these things, too, which is around balance and efficiency as well. Like if you're, if you're unhappy if you're sitting spending lots of time on your computer, what are you what are you doing in that moment? And I think that for me, having spent huge amounts of hours From the age of 14 working from home, it's like, you actually need a balance. You need to be able to what are you smiling at saves? You get it back awake in check, but uh, no, no, no, no when King jack 14. Yeah, yeah, definitely. But no, I think it is it. I think that we need to be careful of the language around how we approach our colleagues and our friends around working, because
so I think there's things as a key point, in that there's a real shift. So you've been doing for a long time. And you're an exception in that you're a director of the business that we're in. So there is a lot of I spoke to someone today. They said, someone worked from home recently, and they said that they are working from home and they spent two days doing zero. And so and for me, I go there probably not used to working from home and I don't really, you know, You could easily be distracted. So there is a learning to work from home that needs to happen and a change in management management
management, but it's also changing time management for yourself. What about the person that you don't want to feel like, like you're working all the time. So the hours of, we'll jump on the first zoom call at nine. And we'll have a sort of like, sign off at the end of the day. So but then then then you're done. And so maybe that changes.
Also, like you've got to consider that. For a lot of people, their work has completely changed. Yeah. So if they're used to, you know, if you're in the events or hospital space or most injured industries, you're not calling the same clients every day. You're not having the same conversations. You're not putting in the orders. You're not receiving the deliveries like these things.
I could even see what you're talking about is like you can work on a picking line. All day, you can work at a worksite all day. And you can see the input that you're that you're doing. And you can see the output from the input that you've put in for the day, when you're working from home, if you're not in a super skilled role or something that requires us, you know, like a skill set. So a coder who is coding something or working on a, it's very specific, and it makes sense to work from home. So when there is these new, think about all the businesses that are going to accommodate people to try and transition to working from home, and then you've got an industrial job, if you've got like a classic, sort of traditional industrial job, that's going to be hard.
Yeah, right now, I think that potentially with everything that's happened, we'll look back and say, okay, we need to diversify and we industries potentially and if we're you If one country ends up in lockdown, we need to make sure that we can, you know, look after ourselves as a country. And so I think potentially wind up seeing the government supporting those types of more sort of local manufacturing and things like that for certain things. Yeah. Especially if you look at stuff like masks and some of those essential items that potentially, you know, we've got low amounts of at the moment.
Yeah, I mean, one thing I agree with you on definitely not that I'm disagreeing with you. But is, I think if even if it blew over tomorrow, I think I'd still move forward in what we're doing like it, like it made it makes a lot of sense to me, because it's just seen how fragile I think, Josh, your point of bums on seats, like, I think that has made sense to me a lot. And when you end up having a business that requires bums on seats, It's and people there and a life outside of work. It makes sense. But I think there is a new world that we're moving into a new sort of existence, which, yeah, I'm loving it like I think I'm doing. I'm jumping onto my computer early. And as I wake up like seventh, like 7am on my computer, and I can just jump on actually do some work. I don't have to set shit up. It's, I have to get to the office. It is nice. Like, I want this home set up at home all the time. It's just expensive. Well, you've just gained like you've gained potentially two hours a day. Yeah,
in regards to like not having to do all the commuting and things like that.
I mean, maybe rather get up at like 530 and start at 545 and just punch out, you know, two hours of work. And then spend the morning with Bodhi and Amy before like when we're back into normality, take him to daycare later. Pick him up at the same time and then just you know, have more That makes sense.
Yeah, I think that the key is that if anyone, if you're a manager, and you're unsure about what your employees doing, or you're not feeling comfortable, you've got to ask yourself, are you defining the outputs? Are you being clear on what needs to be done every day? Because if you've defined, okay, these are the things that need to be done. And this is the definition of done and this is the due date. It's very easy. You can say, hey, did this thing get done? If it didn't, then it's a conversation. But yeah.
And is there a hangover from the previous approach, which was in the building?
Well, yeah, I think that you could previously as a manager, be pretty lazy with it and just look and say, I yeah, the people there, as long as they're at their desk, that's good enough. But I think that having worked at invito, which was sort leading the way in sort of future of work, they had to do a lot of work around defining what your outputs are. What do you and so then it becomes up to you and you actually become more efficient because I reckon that the biggest con is the eight hour working day. I think that Yeah, the the average person probably spends three hours doing actual productive work. I don't think that the majority of Australians are doing full day's that's, it's at least in sort of the creative field, I think well
hang on if Gone are the days of non will five jobs in the future. Like that kind of what you associate with a 905 show up I can do your thing leave, forget about work. There's a whole shift in in people to about what they have to you know, like I think, what you what you think you're signing up for, and There's a lot of unlearning there for a lot of people, which is going to be hard and the unlearning for the business. I think if the business can guide and the leaders can probably guide the people who are needing to unlearn. You know,
it's it's complex too. I also think that we're at a point where we can actually define our own jobs or what Hayden did, saying, what do you think has changed? Why are we in a transitional period virus out of the question? What's the shift in work culture? Was this
Yeah, I mean, I think that the virus has made people transition quicker. But obviously we were already I believe, moving in that direction. But there are a bunch of consequences or negative effects to doing this type of thing. So the the idea of being employed versus being a freelancer. If we look at what happened with the sharing economy, we look at Uber we and all of the examples around, you know, air Tasker and things like that. It's like, the government had to change the way that they regulated things because all of a sudden, you could be getting paid not that much money. Putting it basically being treated like a freelancer and then copying a tax bill at the end of the financial year, because you just weren't prepared. So hopefully all of this starts to create new systems. But I think that the other thing to TJ around like defining your own job and your work is it's like can work, be fun can work be something that you are pumped to do because I think that some people have it in their minds that work isn't meant to be fun. And I for me, I spent all day today working on, you know, our next projects with the daily talk show. It's like, it doesn't feel like work. But I think that it's also we've got to consider that these are productive things that are going to move. move us forward.
Yeah, yeah, definitely. And so you Seth Godin book. You bring it up because you want to do something.
Yeah, I think I'll I think I should, in the isolation. Do a bit. You know,
every day. Well, Wayne says no excuses not to finish writing the book now, Josh?
Yeah. Thank you why. That's true. I'm guessing Seth is not coming to Australia given Yeah. Oh, no. Non Ozzy residents can get into the country.
Yeah. Yeah, yes. No exceptions for Seth. Now.
All right. Oh, yeah. Sam's gonna you're gonna do anything. had been your internet you've done that though. Not what so I got a I bought a real shit router from office work so I needed go buy a proper one and did you
did a life hack get in the way like did you try and go oh he's a cheapo this will do one that's
what says yeah Oh did I skimped on getting a panic
buy it was the weirdest Penny five all time though cuz I stocking up on toilet paper and board around.
No I skimped on I didn't click the i want to include a router with my NBN sign up so I didn't get one internet provider. Yeah, because then we're gonna charge you an extra fee or something. Oh, yeah, it's like whatever. 70 bucks and I'm just like I yeah, they also they don't give you the best
sort of now they might say things are out of mine and I'm getting you know what they promised nearly 50 up and down. That's good. All right, I just 40 something. One thing I am pumped about is the gronk squad and just You know, we're all sort of in it together. And this place can be, you know, somewhere where we can all get together. And the podcast is, yeah, bringing us together in this time, which is great. We've got a lot of gronk on the live stream right now on YouTube. We're doing this most days for the show, which we're probably gonna do it every day live stream to YouTube. Jordan Mike ladies the coronavirus denier is here with welcome buddy.
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Genuinely, if if we can help you, I think, yeah, reach out we will. I think I said to you, Josh and I were speaking before my son I said, this is like, it's not the time to be reaching out to try and drum up business. I read this somewhere I was like, I fucking so true. The last thing you want to do is contacting people saying, Can you pay me some money to do something for this? Just like what can we how can we help other people in this time? Or for at least one week? And then we'll get into
a demo? And we'll get over it?
No, but seriously, I think it's laid with what can What can I bring value? How can I bring value to other people around in life?
That's just the way to go? Right? Yeah.
Especially in times of feeling like you want to resort to how can I help myself here. So when that when that is the feeling which I think Most of us are feeling right now. We're fact I'm fact, Amy's jobs fact that my jobs like all that shit, you could just go down a spiral. And your mind starts thinking about what can I do to help me right now? So I think the if you flipped on its head, I think there's some power in it.
How's the full screen Netflix going? Are you happy with that? So that that's almost like the PlayStation purchase for me. Ah, I didn't even know that it's
well, Craig Harper. I gave our log the log into Netflix, like three years ago. I think he's still use it. I gotta get confirmation. Really? Harvey's from him or something? Absolutely not. He's done more for me than I than I could ever do for him. And so he will pay for his Netflix for life
or grab. We're looking after his Spotify as well. Where do you sort of draw the line?
Well, I mean, we, I mean, he has, I don't even have a login to Spotify. I mean, just logged in on my phone. So I don't know that I'll give it to Greg.
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