Exposure Therapy & Hair Growth

Josh: It's the Daily Talk Show, Episode 642.

Tommy: What is happening, guys? What's going on? Actually, what is going on is you, Josh, 1.5-meter rule, mate. Who's that guy next to you?

Harry: Oh, we forgot about that.

Josh: Happy Harry's here with me.

George: Yes.

Tommy: Are you happy though, Harry? Because it is a time—

Harry: I put up with Josh in the car singing a song about the world ending.

Josh: No, I just— I've got the song. It's the end of the world as we know it.

Harry: And that's the only words you know. Knows.

Josh: And I feel fine. Yeah, it's easy, stuck in my head.

Tommy: Well, it really is. Uh, as we know, Seb's— look at his face, he's already thinking too much corona banter. Can we have like a, a, some kind of like a paddle that you hold up when there's too much corona banter? Maybe you can hold up a Corona bottle.

George: Correct. Yeah, great. Or maybe, maybe it's— oh no, that doesn't work. I was about to say you could have a Corona, it could be a level and you drink depending on drinking games.

Tommy: Yeah, or whenever I said we say Corona, Josh Mason drinks a sip of Corona.

Josh: Oh, that's funny. Would you do that, Seth?

Bodhi: Please.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, we can do it. That would be so funny over the whole show. He'll just be smashing beer and hating it, which is great. Um, Harry, you've, um, I mean, I called you only 2 days ago. And I said, mate, I heard you're in lockdown.

Harry: Oh, tell me about it.

Tommy: Oh, I want you to tell me about it.

Harry: RMIT's a bit behind the eight ball, so we've still got classes and everybody's been cranky about it, but they just released information the other day that they're stopping classes next week, which is good. But my accommodation building's practically in lockdown, which is a little bit scary.

Tommy: So you don't even escape? What's going on?

Harry: What do you mean?

Tommy: Why are you here? Why are you at Josh's house?

Harry: Because I was hungry and I've got no food.

Josh: No, no, no, no, no, that is sort of true. Yeah, he literally— he had yesterday, he had lettuce and, uh, cherry tomatoes, and he spent 2 hours trying to make a salad with those 2 things.

Harry: Oh no, because there's no food in the supermarket.

Josh: Lara says, uh, hey, I'm at RMIT too. They've been piss poor when it comes to organization. This is great.

Harry: Yeah.

Josh: And so Hayden drinks—

Tommy: Hayden, Dibs just concerned about drinks tomorrow night.

Josh: Oh yeah, no, Dibs, they're off.

Tommy: Are they?

Josh: Oh no, no, no, no, sorry, sorry. Doing drinks in person is not happening. Virtual drinks are happening.

Tommy: Yeah, virtual drinks.

Josh: Virtual drinks. But what confused me is Hayden said tomorrow night. I've told Gemma that we're doing the show at 1 PM tomorrow.

Harry: Why?

Tommy: Why don't we— wasn't the whole thing that we're going to do Friday drinks at night?

Josh: Friday Avo drinks.

Tommy: Yeah, then why don't we do that?

Josh: Yeah, 1 PM. Is that okay?

Tommy: That's quite early. I'm not fucking drinking at 1 PM. I've got shit I need to do tomorrow from home.

Josh: What, so you can't have a drink at 1 PM? You're not comfortable with that? Absolutely not.

Harry: It's only one. You can just have one.

Josh: Yeah, surely. Isn't it like Friday? Isn't that like a lunchtime thing? Isn't that what a lot of people do?

Tommy: Yeah, some, some people do it. What, you do? Do you do it? Is that what you say?

Josh: Yeah, I'm happy to do it. I think you just like, there's so many rules. Why? Like, why? Why are you being so funny about what time?

Tommy: All right, Mason, I'll buy you a six-pack and, and we'll do the corona drinking game tomorrow.

Harry: Okay, great.

Josh: I mean, you're not one for the rules, TJ. I've asked you multiple times to put Tommy Jacket, capital T, capital J, and then a space. And I like it.

Tommy: I like it. I like it as it is. It's actually how you see it on Instagram, on Twitter. So you're more YouTube.

Josh: Why don't you change your name by default? Just @TommyJacket.

Tommy: Then can you— I wonder if someone— are you allowed to use an symbol in your name? Can you create a handle as your name legally? That'd be funny.

Josh: Yeah, I'm sure you could. Sean Parker says he votes for afternoon drinks.

Tommy: Yeah, you're gonna read that full message, by the way.

George: Afternoon slash evening drinks.

Tommy: Yeah, well, it's gonna go through to the evening for you, Seb. It's gonna be an absolute fuckfest at your joint later in the day.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: After all the beers he's going to drink on the show.

Josh: But what would he make fuckfest?

Tommy: Well, with who? Anybody after 6 drinks for him, that's what's going to happen, you know.

Josh: What are you moving around?

Harry: Hitch something.

Tommy: That's very—

Josh: yeah, I mean, Harry is, um, I thought, because Harry, you've told me about your, um, history with cleanliness and making sure that you're, you know, You had a bit of OCD.

Harry: Yep.

Josh: And so I allowed you to come in here because I thought you were going to be hygienic. Yeah, like really on top of the shit.

Harry: Do you want me to unzip mine?

Josh: No, you just— he's got pizza all over his top, but he's just been touching shit unnecessarily. He had his face— he had a face mask on, but he took the face mask off, put it on the coffee table and then he's put his phone on the mask.

Harry: What's wrong with that?

Josh: Surely that's not hygienic because it was like the inside of it. So he's like putting the yucky stuff on the phone, directly on the phone.

Harry: Ah, yeah.

Tommy: Harry, um, have you talked openly about your OCD in a public forum?

Harry: Not really, no.

Tommy: Would you share any of it with us?

Harry: Yeah, so when I started Year 7, I went to the psych and they told me like, oh, you're showing symptoms of OCD or whatever it was.

Josh: What was the— what was the cause of going to the psych in the first place? Like, what was—

Harry: I can't remember why we went in the first place, but anyway, I ended up in hospital for 3 months, pretty much at a mental hospital, um, mental sort of hospital, and it was the best time ever. Like, I loved it. I could go again tomorrow.

Tommy: Oh, tell us about it. What do you mean?

Harry: Like Oh, it was just— you can't say it's funny, but it was funny.

Josh: You were there for 3 months. 3 months is a long time to be in a hospital. And so, what was it like? So, when you see people washing their hands and shit, is it a bit— and all this stuff that's happening at the moment with you, you know, we're constantly being told to do all this stuff. Is that reminding you or triggering anything from the past?

Harry: Not really, no. I've lost a lot of sense. Skin on my hands. See, I've got like gaps in my skin. I'm red raw in some parts because I've been washing so much.

Tommy: Yeah, I saw someone today and they said they have not dermatitis. What's the something with your hands? Maybe it is.

Josh: I think it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And it was from using so much hand sanitizer, like so regularly. They worked at a— they work at a health institute or health facility.

Josh: A little hack that I only just learned. How do you apply your soap?

Tommy: How do I— are you talking to me? I was just waving at my neighbor.

Josh: How do you apply your— how do you play soap?

Tommy: One squirt. How else? Just pump it.

Josh: Can we get this as a snippet? There's one squirt, I pump it. Tommy Jack, just describing his sex life.

Harry: What's—

Josh: no, do you just squirt it into your hand or do you— what I was trying to say is I didn't know that you put water on your hand before you put soap.

Tommy: All right, mate. What do you like?

Josh: Did you know this?

Tommy: I could turn— I might turn the tap on a little bit, pump soap into my hand and then put my hands under and with a light bit of water. Wash my hands with water and soap, and so it lathers them up. Sometimes if you want to go real kind of, you know, surgeon-like, yeah, get a bit of soap, a little bit of water, and then just like, it's just, you know, like there's no tap on, you just go hard washing your hands for 30 seconds. I don't know, Harry, you're surely someone who's quite proficient.

Harry: Well, I've got a two-tap technique. It's great.

Josh: Oh, really?

Harry: So what you do, yeah, do you double squirt as well? No, no. So you turn on the hot tap.

Josh: Yeah.

Harry: So if you have bad stuff on your hands, you turn on the hot tap.

Josh: Yeah.

Harry: Wash your hands, put on soap, wash your hands again, then turn on the cold tap, wash your hands, turn off the hot tap, wash your hands, and then turn off the cold tap. So then that way you're not—

Josh: is this an official way or is this considered a bit OCD?

Harry: This is a Harry way of doing things.

Josh: Yes.

Harry: So that way you don't have Dirt on your hands, you're putting it on the tap, washing your hands, turning off the tap and putting it back on your hands.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, I've just even noticed the way that I'm opening doors. Like, I've gotten very good at just using my— the problem is I'm using my knuckles for everything. So, I worked out that I was using my knuckles to open the doors, but I was also using my knuckles to rub my nose. So, I sort of think it defeats the purpose in some way. We were watching the footy just like 20 minutes ago and every time somebody would touch another person, Josh would go, "Ooh, ooh." Yeah, well, it's outrageous because you've got this hilarious thing that the Australian Football League is playing tonight to a stadium that holds 100,000 people.

Harry: Go the Togs!

Josh: And there's no one there.

Tommy: So, I don't have a TV. What's the vibe? Is it just—

Josh: Well, we just saw the pregame because the show, the footy is actually just starting. They had, uh, Steve— what's his name? Quartermaine. That's his—

Tommy: yeah, Stephen Quartermaine.

Josh: Stephen Quartermaine, is that his name? So the big— the one's been doing for a while.

Harry: What?

Tommy: I don't know. We're doing what for a while?

Josh: Commentating.

Tommy: There's a bunch of commentators. There's this big one of them.

Josh: Oh, look at this! You see that one?

George: That might be—

Harry: they all do, don't they?

Tommy: Yep. Yeah, Bruce has been doing it.

Harry: Is he the old— older?

Tommy: Delicious! That's his comment. Ah, delicious!

Josh: Yeah, I don't know if that's— I've never heard him say delicious.

Tommy: You don't watch football, bro.

Josh: They've never got no idea. Delicious. I think you're— unless you've gone out to dinner with him. But anyway, they had him and the CEO or someone from the AFL, and they were about 5 metres apart. They've got like the vox pop style microphones, but they've got Bruce has one, and then the AFL rep has like a shotgun mic. It is the most ridiculous thing that I've seen, because then they're cutting from that to in the change room, they're doing the whole thing where they're all grabbing each other, like someone like grabbing their hair and doing all shit. Like, it's just— it was a real weird contrast.

Tommy: I tell you what, since this self-imposed quarantine for you, Josh, Your hair is looking washed. Have you been washing your hair more than just once every fortnight?

Josh: This is really interesting you bring this up because I'm actually using a new product.

Tommy: Well, it looks light and it looks, it looks a bit dry.

George: Silky.

Tommy: So silk.

Josh: I mean, it could be silk.

Tommy: What's it called?

Josh: Bondi Boost.

George: Bondi Boost.

Tommy: What are they boosting in Bondi?

Josh: Well, so Bree did a big order of Bondi Boost. How big are we talking? Uh, like a couple of hundred and something bucks worth of, um, this, these different products. And, uh, yeah, so it's— I've got a coffee spray and I spray it onto my scalp and I do it 2 times a day.

Harry: Coffee?

Josh: Yeah, it's like a coffee sort of spray. And so potentially, um, I'm gonna come back out of isolation with thick Tommy Jacket style hair.

George: Yeah, I mean, Goldie, Goldie replied to our Instagram storeys saying, this is the first time I think I've seen your hair, Josh.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, this is just looking good or not, but I mean, I know, nor was I, but it looks washed. Like, it looks— have you just been washing your hair more?

Josh: No, no. I think like I didn't wear a hat at all today.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: And so, I think that that potentially helps.

Tommy: Did you go outside at all today? Because it was quite warm.

Josh: No. Well, so the thing is, Happy is having to wear a jumper because I've got the aircon pumping. I've got the blinds down. I'm keeping a real tight ship here. But Annoyingly, we decide, like, we are— we're getting all of our admin in order. It's fantastic. I paid my phone bill. We're going to say happy—

Harry: I was going to say you should actually have it hot because that's how they sterilise things in like heat.

Josh: Well, I was watching Joe Rogan who was talking about sauna and the expert was saying it wouldn't help. Heat.

Harry: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, it doesn't. So the point is like a lot of things can't survive in heat is what you're saying, Harry.

Bodhi: Yeah.

Tommy: So germs don't spread in higher temperatures. And so people were thinking, if I go into a sauna, that's definitely going to help, like, my body temperature heat up and help fight off whatever it is.

Josh: Seb, how are we going about the corona? Is this too much? I mean, we've only spoken about corona so far.

George: No, I mean, we've talked about your hair. We've talked about Harry's OCD stuff.

Tommy: Do you want us to— you're going through the notes you're taking.

Josh: Definitely.

George: Do you want to say sort of double foul footy match from Friday night drinks.

Tommy: What else? What else, Robot? What should we go back on? What do you think? Do you want to go back to Harry's OCD?

Josh: I think the OCD stuff is really interesting.

Tommy: And so it's fascinating. Can we— one of the funniest storeys he told us, Harry, is it involved flour. And I just thought that is so beautiful. And I love that you shared it with us. If you don't want to, don't.

Harry: No, no, no. I'm happy to.

Josh: Happy Harry, it's not Sunday. He's happy.

Harry: No, um, so I was in this mental hospital in South Melbourne and I was a little bit shitty with them because they put me on some sort of medication to calm me down. And I said, look, if you don't— if you want to do a valid test, you don't put your test subject on medication to then test them. Yeah, I wasn't too happy with them when I went in. And like, we'd have to go up to like a little drive-through window almost to get our medication. There had to be 2 nurses in the room and everything. So, but eventually I went, they're not helping me at all. They're not doing any exposure therapy. They're not going with all me problems. They're not playing with my problems. So I went into the disabled toilets. Well, first I went to the cafeteria and got— I think he gave me 2 kilos of flour.

Josh: Why did the cafeteria give you 2 kilos of flour? Do you think you were making pizza bases?

Harry: No, I asked him to. And then I said, I'm paying top dollar for this joint. So we gave it to me.

Tommy: You were running the joint, Harry. You had everyone on payroll.

Josh: I hope you do the same at RMIT. You just demand flour after a reception.

Harry: No, I do it with my student accommodation. I tell them, this isn't right. Like, the PowerPoints aren't straight. And I say, I'm paying top dollar for this joint.

Josh: No, I love it.

Tommy: It's such a good flex.

Josh: And so you get the flour.

Harry: So I get the flour. I go to the disabled bathroom. And I just soaked myself in it, like head to toe.

Josh: And so you used to be funny about like things like chalk and dust. And so was this a bit of pushback saying, I'm all fine now?

Harry: Yeah, I guess so. But it's like, if I want to try it, try playing with chalk or flour, this is the place to do it in. Because like, if the shit hits the fan and I go mad, well, I'm in a safe spot.

Tommy: And so you did basically expose yourself to it, to confront it, and it worked.

Harry: Yeah, without the nurses. But then I ran— I was going home a few weeks ago and I got— you know how I'm attracted to old people on the trains?

Tommy: Yeah, you can give context.

Josh: I mean, it's a weird fetish, but it's true.

Tommy: You're an old soul and you like talking to old people. You're not physically attracted to really old people.

Harry: I should reword that. But I am So I sat down and the first time I got in a fight with an old person on the train. Stupid old person. I recorded it on voice memo.

Josh: I couldn't hear it. It was a terrible recording.

Harry: Oh, did I send it to you?

Josh: Yeah, because we were talking about doing a podcast and you were suggesting you could produce it. I was like, yeah, I think you could. And then you sent through like, mate, hear this audio. And it was so bad that I started chuckling.

Harry: Because do you know how hard it is to record someone on the train without making it obvious?

Josh: And so why you described her as an old bitch?

Harry: Can I finish the first storey first and then I'll come to that. So I ran into my old teacher on the train. She hopped on at Footscray and I said, "Oh, Mrs. Clea, Mrs. Clea." And she goes, "Hmm." And I go, "It's Harry from, you know, where you used to teach." And then she goes, "Uh." And I go, "The boy who hated chalk." And she goes, "Oh, Harry, how are you? How are you? How's everything?" So yeah, that's where that story—

Josh: and so how bad was the whole chalk thing? They couldn't get whiteboards?

Harry: Oh, the whole school. There was one teacher, and she's actually sort of a family friend. Her classroom had a chalkboard, and I just remember being so shitty in that class. And so, um, talking about the altercation with the old lady that you recorded, oh, she was like, every time somebody would pop on, she's like, this is a reserved carriage.

Josh: A reserved carriage?

Harry: Yeah. Because you have to reserve your seat on V/Line in the front two carriages.

Josh: So V/Line, for people not in Victoria, is the regional train. Is that right?

Harry: Yeah.

Josh: And so was she right or was she wrong?

Harry: She was right, but she was telling everybody, even if they had a reserved ticket, and she was so rude to people. So I thought, I'll show her something. So I put my phone in my pocket, recording on voice memos, and I hopped off the train, hopped back on, went via the toilet.

Josh: So you were already on the train?

Harry: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: And so you thought—

Harry: I wanted to shit stir the situation a bit.

Josh: And okay, and so—

Tommy: Love this.

Josh: So you've walked off. Did you have luggage with you or anything, or no? No.

Harry: Okay, I left it, I left it there. Yeah, okay, because it was only washing.

Tommy: Okay, what if, what if the door closed on you? Oh, you can get—

Harry: So, and then I hop back on and she goes, excuse me, you need it, you need a reserved ticket to sit here. And I go, I've got one. How do you know I don't have one? She goes, oh, and I said, and don't speak to me like that. And then she's like, excuse me, I take this train every week and it frustrates me when people— oh, it just went on and on and on. So I went to get the conductor and then he—

Josh: and what did the conductor do?

Harry: Ma'am, this is my job, not yours. It was so good.

Tommy: It's old school because they have the conductor walking through flipping tickets.

Harry: Yeah.

Josh: That's what I loved about going and seeing Seth in New York, going and they had all of that sort of stuff. And so, Harry, when it comes to exposure therapy, you did, you were also scared of, or you didn't like chewing gum.

Harry: I know where this is going.

Josh: And so how did you—

Harry: So to overcome my— I did this all in the one day, one day before I was leaving. Because they hadn't done anything with me.

Tommy: Sorry, Harry, like, when it got to this day, had it been a successful stay, or were you like, sort of, but I thought I could get more out of it? It's, it's cramming exam study into the last moment.

Harry: Yeah.

Josh: Is this going to be you on your last day at RMIT? You're going to do like a big short film, you know, shoot, edit the whole thing? Yeah.

Harry: Um, feature. Um, so I went down to the cafeteria And I had a big sheet of A3 paper that I stole from the arts and crafts box, and I got chewing gum from the vending machine, which I had to complain to Coca-Cola multiple times about.

Josh: Why?

Harry: Oh, shitty, just stopped working and stuff would get stuck in the little gear, you know, just, and then it'll scratch against the glass and all shit. But so I got all my chewing gum and I went, went around the cafeteria and asked people if they were smokers or non-smokers. And then I got them to chew the chewing gum and stick it to my A3 sheet of paper.

Josh: And then I'm pretty fucking disgusting, really, isn't it?

Harry: Yeah. And then I got a medicine cup and covered the chewing gum with that. And then my goal was to touch and play with the chewing gum because I used to, I used to lose my shit if I touched chewing gum under the table or something.

Josh: Oh, well, it is pretty gross.

Harry: And then I don't think I ever got around to finishing that experiment because I think I recall finding it in my bedroom not that long ago.

Tommy: The pack of like the sheet of sheets.

Harry: I think it was under my bed. I just, I can just picture me looking at it. Can't really remember.

Josh: And that's how coronavirus was created.

Tommy: So how many, uh, do you think you're sort of out of the woods on, on your OCD? Like how Do you then not have it? Is that the thing?

Harry: I'm heavily medicated at the moment. So I was talking to Joshua about it before. If I went off my meds, I don't know what I'll be like because I don't really remember life before I wasn't on them, if you know what I mean.

Josh: And so yesterday, Happy was in a little bit of a tense time because you couldn't—

Harry: It was a clusterfuck, really.

Josh: Yeah, you couldn't find— between not finding the salad and all that sort of thing. Which, you know, it's hard being a veggo, I guess, in this time. Or maybe not, maybe it's easy.

Harry: No, it is, because all the people that bag out veggies then in a time like this go and buy veggo meals from the supermarket.

Josh: So it's not ideal. I did buy some falafel stuff, so I'm sorry about that.

Harry: Um, slide this one.

Josh: Yeah, but so you had issues finding your meds?

Harry: Yeah, every supermarket— not supermarket, pharmacy in the CBD was out.

Josh: Are people stockpiling meds?

Harry: I don't know what it is, but I think—

Tommy: yes, that's what they're doing, Josh.

Josh: But are they stockpiling— what are the— what's the actual meds do for you, Haz?

Harry: Uh, make me calmer.

Josh: Okay.

George: Are they—

Harry: make me—

Tommy: oh, sorry.

Harry: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: All the unprescription meds are getting stockpiled to asthma pumps, painkillers.

Harry: Correct. And so I went out to South Yarra today, and you saw I had a bit of a hike.

Josh: It's more of a walk than a hike, I think we sort of—

Harry: No, it felt like a hike.

Josh: How many k's?

Harry: I don't know, I trammed most of it, but it was still a hike.

Josh: So it was hike or walk?

Tommy: I get it, it was actually— I mean, he mostly trammed, so that was a tram experience.

Josh: Is it on AllTrails? Yeah, it doesn't matter anyway.

Harry: So I should have actually, um, um, tracked it.

Josh: And so anyway, you, um, can you— what's the deal with meds at this time? Can you call up and get them to put it aside? Can you like—

Harry: they wouldn't let me take them, like, because my prescription was like 4 boxes, say. They would only let me take 2 boxes worth, I think.

Josh: What happens if you take too many of a drug that makes you calm?

Harry: I don't know.

Josh: I don't want to do it.

Harry: Okay, just experiment.

Tommy: You don't do it. And so, um, do you think about, like, I— with my asthma, it's not that bad. But I definitely feel more safe, like comfortable, when I know where I have a puffer just in case something went pear-shaped.

Josh: Like me with Natural Confectionery Company lollies. But I've had this fucking— I've done it again. I'm not even joking. I've done it again. We bought new ones and I ate them all today. What's Amy saying? What's going on?

Tommy: I know, okay, when you have headphones on, you can't hear. And so I'm just nodding.

Josh: Maybe you said, ah, that's awkward.

Tommy: Yeah, I was just saying words at that point. Someone just walked past. It was only sister.

Harry: There was people in my mental hospital that did that, Tommy.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So do you, do you, Harry, do you feel comfortable, or do you feel if you didn't know where your medication was, you didn't have supply?

Harry: I can go a day without it. I've gone a day without it many a time. But I shouldn't.

Tommy: Have we seen you on a day without it? What do you, what do you mean you shouldn't?

Harry: What happens? Oh no, like I shouldn't, it's not healthy to just stop them instantly, but like when I have theater, I, um, oh, it's now pay still say, no, no pay still say.

Josh: Yeah, Ice Cold Oz said, uh, what happened to no, no pay, no sad policy of the show? When do we, because, um Adam and Simon are doing that real hard at the moment on their podcast.

Harry: Gogglebox boys. Yeah, yeah, sorry.

Josh: I wonder what's happening with their show with the whole AFL stuff.

Tommy: AFL's going ahead.

Josh: Well, it's going ahead. For how long?

Tommy: It was on last night. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think we'll be in lockdown in a couple of weeks, but it will be.

Josh: Lara said, I remember when Natural Confectionery Co brought out fizzy drinks for a while. The only soft drink I'd ever drink.

Tommy: Mate, I wonder if anyone's still got a bottle of that.

Josh: I'd love that, especially if it was sort of like in that, like an apple sort of flavour.

Tommy: I've potentially got a story. Yes. So when I was in high school, when I was going to Wesley, we would get off the train.

Josh: Wesley High School, if you're not from Victoria.

Tommy: What was that?

Josh: A very good school.

Tommy: A good school, expensive school. I don't think they're the same. Expensive, yes.

Josh: So what, you don't— you didn't rate it?

Harry: Was it a private school?

Tommy: Private school. Cost my parents a fortune. Uh, nah, like, um, you still went to church but not, not Catholic. There's another one where it's just like, uh, they kind of just do church every now and then. I don't know. I can't remember now. Anyway, so we get off the train, Prahran Station, and we get our can of V and open it and just walk to school drinking energy drinks. That was the only time I got around energy drinks. But walking past on Greville Street, I'm just reading on Wikipedia, the Natural Confectionery Company— Josh, yeah, this banter— in 1951 These companies merged into Sunrise. So there was a few companies. 3 years later, after the phenomenal success of this person's confectionery companies, Sunrise purchased a larger factory in Greville Street, Prahran, to consolidate production. So I remember the logo of the Natural Confectionery Co. and walk past a lolly factory and it would just— the smell of it. Oh, you know, my hands, you know how you— that, that smell, like, you know how you salivate when you— when a bag opens from anywhere?

Josh: You just—

Harry: yeah, I get in trouble if I put pizza on my shirt. It's okay for you to have natural confectionery?

Josh: Well, because of my hands were clean. Oh my God.

Tommy: Sorry.

Harry: I already been to the toilet since you've eaten them and I wash my hands after every time.

Tommy: Josh, I think I know why you like living in Abbotsford and that you like our office being in Abbotsford. Because Sunrise, Sunrise, the, the company was founded by young blah blah blah and his son. Initially, they— the two—

Josh: reading the Wikipedia now.

Tommy: Initially, the two bought out Joop and Son, a small confectionery business in Abbotsford, Melbourne. So there's a lot of connection to the Natural Confectionery Co. And Abbotsford, where our office is.

George: They also acquired another confectionery company in Camberwell, where your favourite cafe is.

Tommy: Oh, mate. And yeah, I mean, this is one degree of separation from your, your lolly company, which you don't want any—

Josh: like, that's not ideal in this time, you know. You want to sort of be isolated.

Tommy: Hang on, you've blown out again. Is that what, what you've done?

Josh: Yeah, no. So I, um, no, I, I, it's— I was saying to Bree I'm like, with this whole isolation thing, no one's going to really see us. Let's just lean into being disgusting and just eat whatever and fat. I wasn't going to use the F word on the show. I know people are triggered by that, but yeah, just get real fucking fat. And then final sort of 2 weeks, we'll just sort of lean out. The one thing is I was like, the only problem is stretch marks and loose skin. So we'll look, we'll look pretty lean. But yeah, it's going to take time. Sean Parker, by the way, everyone, if you're listening to the podcast, we stream it on YouTube now with video, and we're all in our respected houses. Respected? Respective? Thank you. Mine's respected.

Tommy: My fucking house. Everyone in my house respects my house.

Josh: Harry is with me at my house in Collingwood. Sean Parker says, Josh, I'm making some huevos rancheros for breakfast. Got any pointers? I have my pico de gallo ready. Do you add chilli paste to your black beans? Sean, the way that I've been doing it is I add onion, I, with, um, so oil, butter, heat that up. You use the oil because it actually makes sure that the butter doesn't burn. And then you slice the onion sort of thin, diced, put it into the pan, cook that for a bit, then add the can— put the black beans through a sieve. Sieve or sift? Sieve or sift?

Tommy: Alright, mate, I'm going to stop you there. He actually didn't say that. He just said a tip. So give him one tip. Not the fucking—

Josh: make sure you season, always add salt and pepper.

Tommy: Done, done. So that's how it works. Uh, Emma, Emma Lang has just come to see Mr.

Josh: 97's plants, and, um, it's been getting annoyingly a lot of love on everything.

George: It has, hasn't it?

Josh: Including LinkedIn.

George: Your color, your coloured bookshelf got a lot of love.

Josh: TJ, what's— what are you going to do to your background?

Tommy: Really gonna have to— I might bring home a— nah, I won't do that. I gotta work it out. I'll get it.

George: Can you get a backdrop? Can you get a nice little—

Tommy: oh, I actually—

Josh: oh, he's internet.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, look, great plants, shit internet. I reckon my crisp image just looks great. I mean, you've got a $20,000 setup and it just went poor quality.

Josh: Yeah, it's a nightmare.

Tommy: No, I was thinking I've got like some fairy lights. I thought, thought they could look great.

Harry: Oh yeah, um, just sort of dangle down across your lens, have a nice bokeh behind.

Josh: Yeah, 1.8, it will work well. I mean, interestingly, I feel that's sort of the classic— if you're sort of a Bogean that wants to spruce up their backyard, oh man, if you can't get the garden sorted. Yeah, just if you want to do it properly, you would actually install like actual lights. Do you remember that? Like mates who would have lights installed, like coloured lights.

Harry: No, I disagree there, Josh. I totally disagree. If you want to dress up your backyard, you get that little fairy on a toadstool thing that does this and the water fountain one. That's how you dress up your backyard.

Josh: Is that got sort of like a religious thing?

Harry: I don't think so.

Josh: You see that watching Better Homes and Gardens.

Tommy: Hang on, sorry, what? Say that again, Josh.

Josh: Easter's getting cancelled. I think maybe the Vatican came out. I don't know if this was some sort of joke, but there—

Tommy: but, um, confirmation on this. Lara's just said fairy lights, question mark, you hashtag YouTube influencer, which is very true.

Harry: It's very Sarah Deitchy of you to put fairy lights up in the background.

Tommy: Yeah, but I think it would just look nice along the bookshelf, but it has to be right.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And then during the day, they're a bit useless during the day, aren't they?

Josh: I wonder what Christmas is going to be like this year.

Tommy: Mate, have you— I mean, ScoMo came out and said 6 months minimum this is going to affect the population. 6 months. Do you grasp that?

Josh: Yeah. Yeah.

Tommy: I'm ready for it. What are you ready for?

Josh: Just blowing out. Don't blow out, dude.

Tommy: Don't blow it out.

Josh: I won't go crazy. It won't go crazy. But I'm loving that you— we, we've spoken many times about my anxiety of, uh, working out whether you hug, kiss.

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's off the table.

Josh: So I don't have to worry about that anymore.

Tommy: On a, um, a serious note, are you, Josh, feeling any anxiety. Mr. 97 reported some anxious breathing on a phone call today. And then, then he said, you're getting anxious about the anxious breathing.

Josh: Oh no, my breathing's annoying me. My back is sore.

Tommy: Hang on, I'm just checking in. Like, can you just do a once-over? Like, are you actually affected by it?

Josh: I'm fine.

Tommy: What's happening?

Josh: Fine. It's like the technology stuff is a little bit annoying. There are definitely annoyances. Bree doesn't like working from home. And so it's that classic thing of saying, hey, this is going to be happening for a long time. And I feel like there is a little bit of pushback because when I am enjoying it or having my Natural Confectionery Company lollies, these things do provide a little bit of friction within. Like, I can't just eat it and just be happy.

Tommy: She just wants you to be healthy, bro. You know what?

Josh: Well, the thing is, we've got 6 months to be healthy. Just give me a week.

Tommy: You know, I'll tell you, I got home tonight and yeah, I wanted a bit of choccy and there was a block of, a full block of Black Forest on top of the fridge. And Amy's been home.

George: She's sick.

Tommy: She has a cold and she can't, she's not working from home. She's on sick leave. And I went to find this block and I saw no block. She went straight upset. I said, Amy, where's the block? She said, there's no more block. You're sick. You got a cold. Like, worst time to be eating.

Josh: You sound like my mum.

Tommy: As in, you're sick, like you have a cold. It's the worst time to eat.

Josh: Is it the worst time? I always thought that was the best time.

Tommy: When you were sick, your body needs to chill out. Chilling out? You'd be better smoking a joint than fucking eating a block of chocolate.

Josh: Maybe, but we can't do that, can we? Oh, not around this country, not easily.

Tommy: Um, but I mean, one, one's increasing your inflammation, the other— I mean, marijuana is probably lightening you up.

Josh: I don't know how much the chocolate is giving— making me— or lollies making me inflamed. Sugar, it's my—

Tommy: are you serious?

Josh: No, I don't think like it's my hydration. It's my hydrate. Yeah, you know what, you could— I could type in salad inflammation, shit will come up.

Tommy: Consuming excess added sugar and refined carbs—

Josh: well, it's not excess, it's a fucking packet—

Tommy: causes several changes in the body which help explain why dieting sugar can lead to chronic low-grade inflammation. It is, it's horrible for your cells.

Josh: Salad dressing.

Tommy: I love, I love sugar.

Josh: Foods that provide, that create inflammation. Here we go. This is good. No thanks. I don't want to add. Salad dressing. Yeah, because it's got sugar in it. No, white rice.

Tommy: Yeah, carbs, chips. Yeah, all this stuff, refined carbohydrates. So white bread, any just shit carbs.

Harry: Alcohol.

Josh: Well, let's cancel virtual drinks if that's the case.

Tommy: Mate, I said on the show, no, but I said, hang on, at the start of this week I said on the show, not feeling great. I can't drink. I know, I said that to my wife. Oh my God, Bodhi's here! Bodhi, are you there? Do you want to come see the boys, Bo? I think he's coming. He creeps down. He's— I think he's just—

Josh: is he meant to be asleep?

Tommy: Well, he's about to go to sleep, so he's, um, he's, uh, yeah, he's gonna come out. Bodhi, come see the boys!

Harry: Only 8 o'clock.

Tommy: What time is your bedtime, Harry?

Harry: Oh my God, here you go.

Tommy: Come see the boys.

George: 1 o'clock, you're going to bed.

Harry: Yeah.

George: Oh, look at his jammies.

Josh: Hey, Bodhi.

George: Hey, Bodhi.

Tommy: Say hi, guys.

Bodhi: Hi, guys.

Josh: Hello. I'll play the music, Bodhi, and when the music plays, you've got to do the intro, okay? You've got to say it's the Daily Talk Show episode 600, okay?

Bodhi: Yeah.

Josh: Ready? It's pretty good. Not perfect, but I mean, you're tired.

Harry: Room for improvement.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What are you most excited about at the moment?

Bodhi: I'm the Mason one.

Josh: What about Mason?

Bodhi: Mason. I'm the Mason one.

Josh: Yeah.

Bodhi: Yeah.

Josh: So what's my name?

Bodhi: Uh, Josh.

Josh: And do you know what this guy's name is?

Bodhi: Yeah.

Harry: You shouldn't. I don't think you do, but I'm confident if you follow me on Instagram, I'll be happy.

Josh: Happy Harry.

Bodhi: Happy Harry.

Josh: Yeah, that's it. And, um, your monkey?

Bodhi: I'm basically— I, I guess you, you were still home.

George: Yeah, I'm at home.

Harry: Why?

Tommy: Where else would I be?

Bodhi: Uh, you mean George?

George: Where's George?

Bodhi: No, no, no, in— he's in the office.

Josh: Yeah, I think he's gone. George has gone home too. Have you been washing your hands at Daycare? Yes.

Harry: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Well, how do you wash your hands?

Bodhi: Like this.

Josh: Oh, that's good. How do you sneeze? Yeah, how do you sneeze? Not on the microphone.

Harry: Do you put soap on first or water on first?

Bodhi: Soap on.

Josh: Soap on, just like Dad. Um, okay.

Bodhi: But I can't, I can't say pinky promise.

Josh: No pinky promise, no touching at the moment.

Tommy: Pinky promise, Daddy.

Josh: Are you, um, are you still, are you following the social distancing? Are you, are you staying away from your friends?

Bodhi: I put on the Daily Talk Show and I said The David Talk Show one.

Josh: Oh, there we go. That's a great little snippet. Thanks, Bodhi. Well, enjoy your night, okay? And have great dreams about us. Okay, bye.

Tommy: Say bye, Joshy.

Bodhi: Bye, Joshy.

Josh: Bye. Bye, Bodhi.

Tommy: Bye, Mason.

George: Gorgeous.

Bodhi: Bye.

Tommy: Sorry about that.

Bodhi: Bye, Mason.

Tommy: Okay, we're peeking.

Josh: Yeah, we are peeking.

Tommy: Yeah, there you go.

Josh: Anyway, good fun. All right, there we go. I think that's the end of the show, guys. Yeah, we have been getting some emails, mate.

Tommy: Have we?

Josh: Yeah, we got an email.

George: Hang on, give me a second. Lara says, if we're having 1 PM bevs, I'll look like the most irresponsible pet owner when I take my cat to the vet.

Josh: What's the pet? The vet doesn't need to know. What's Bodhi doing out the back there?

Tommy: I don't know, he's fixing up the background.

Josh: Yeah, he's trying to do some colour blocking and add some plants.

George: Yeah, so we got an email from Showbaker Alex. Who would you be in lockdown with for 2 weeks if you were away from your family? Can be anyone, just no one from your family.

Tommy: Who would you be? Sam Harris. Sam Harris. Sam Harris.

Josh: What do you think, Harry?

Harry: Sarah Deitchi.

Josh: Rhymes with peachy.

Harry: Yep. Can you send that to her, please? And then I might meet her one day.

Josh: So Sarah's a YouTuber.

Harry: She's my favourite person.

Bodhi: She is.

Harry: And then get Matt D'Avella to forward it on to her, please. Okay.

Tommy: Thank you.

Josh: It's very specific. Thank you. Who would I want? So not Bree. No, no, no. That was a question. That was a question. Not Bree.

Tommy: Can you get that as a snippet, mate?

Josh: You should rephrase that, Josh. Family, not family.

Tommy: So I'm absolutely sick of her.

Josh: No, because if— no, if, um, because otherwise I would pick Gray. Um, if I had to pick someone else, I don't know. Um, uh, probably not. Just give me a few seconds.

Tommy: George.

Josh: George. I think he's just like real chill, and I reckon, um If we got into a fight and we needed to fight for the last piece of black beans, I think I could beat the shit out of him. Plus, yeah, sometimes he makes—

Tommy: What about you, Seb?

George: Yeah, there's this bloke that I'm following on Instagram at the moment called Ross Edgley. He's the bloke who swam around the UK. It took him a couple of months, but I'd isolate myself with him.

Josh: Wait, so are we trying to pick people who would be able to help us in a disaster.

George: No, no, I just wanted to work out with him. It'd be fun.

Tommy: It's to kill time. It's good energy.

Harry: Talk.

Tommy: I could meditate with Sam. We could talk about— he could educate me.

George: That's true. Jay Shetty would be good as well.

Josh: He's, um, no, good at meditation and stuff.

Tommy: No, I like Jay, but I, I like Sam more.

Josh: I think Jay's very good at social media and Instagram.

Tommy: He can talk the talk.

Josh: I think— I don't know how much more you're getting in the room. Yeah, slightly. I think that we need to bring everyone together this time, but I just think, yeah, there's other people.

George: Matthew McConaughey is great as well.

Josh: Oh yeah, he's very calming.

George: How good is he?

Josh: The green light, you know, fucking— you got to get through the red to get to the green, mate.

Tommy: You should have heard him today. I love Matt. I love him. Oh, definitely. I mean, he's great.

Josh: No, he's good. No, I'd probably— no, let me do one more.

Tommy: Well, you just pick someone within our team.

George: You want to spend your last night with Tay Tay?

Josh: No. Well, so this is the problem. It ends up going into that same area where I mentioned the—

Tommy: oh yeah, it's a Pussycat Doll. No, I reckon, you know, the blonde one, the, uh, You said that.

Josh: No, probably. No, well, you were saying it.

Tommy: If you stay on topic, who would you isolate with if you couldn't do the person you love most, Bree, outside of them, anyone in the world?

Josh: Just give me 10 seconds to think about it. Yeah, isn't that interesting? We have to decide in 10 seconds.

Tommy: Yeah, and I know you're not choosing Missy Higgins because her dad has coronavirus.

Josh: I do love it. Even though you've got some solid bangers. Bankers. Good accountants.

George: Good accountants.

Josh: Like, our accountants are great. Shout out to RBK. How good are our accountants?

Tommy: Mate, I'd get around Jason. Doing isolation with Jason.

Josh: Taver and Jason. Taver can look after the specifics of Xero. Jason can be— he can look after all entertainment. Just across the board. I feel like he'd be great at it. Like, he was having a ball in Los Angeles.

Tommy: You know, you found the right accountants when you say that you would isolate with them.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Tommy: Like, mate, I fucking can't be in the room with that asshole.

Josh: Could you imagine our last accountant being isolated? Just like, mate, what are you doing? Fuck, I've got so many emails. Oh, I think it's gone to spam. My spam's fucked. Everything's fucked. Um, yeah, very good. It's a daily talk show. You didn't answer the question. It's very hard.

Tommy: I just don't—

George: everyone said it.

Tommy: This is, this is I want to be the guy that all over again. Brené Brown. It could be Seth Godin.

Harry: Scott Morrison.

Tommy: Scotty from marketing.

Josh: No, I have a soft spot for Kevin Rose.

Tommy: Oh, that's a great idea. Was that the guy who threw the raccoon down the stairs?

George: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah, that guy's a hero. I'll definitely fuck Kevin Rose. That's what we're talking about. No, he's a great guy. Um, what are you— are you okay, Seb?

Harry: Yeah, I'd give him his mouth wide open.

Josh: Yeah, he's doing his mouth wide open thing. Yeah, it's great because we, we have it in delay so we can watch it. It's very funny. Um, George Clooney says Lara. I mean, yeah, how many pods is he bringing?

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

George: It's only instant as well, so it's a bit of a nightmare.

Josh: I didn't mention, Bree's just told me, um, about a little bit of a dirty secret she had.

Tommy: What is it?

Josh: Um, uh, so at work, uh, she gets it because this is the thing. So when people are saying to isolate at home, all the dirty secrets are coming out.

Tommy: What's coming out? What is it?

Josh: I don't know if I can even say it.

George: Oh, well, you can't do that.

Josh: She is, um, is this what I had to comment on? No. So she's, um, what was it? What did you have to comment on?

Harry: Oh, some stupid—

Josh: oh, I don't know.

Harry: Yeah, don't say that. Um, because it's going to pull you up if you're going to say that.

Tommy: Can you just say it?

Harry: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: No, um, she's been drinking these satchels of coffee that make cappuccinos. So, it's an instant, but it also has the milk component. You add water and you have a cappuccino.

Tommy: And you're saying this is like her cheating on the café?

Josh: Well, I just think that from a— if you're in Melbourne and you're— she freaks out if she doesn't have fucking almond milk and it's all this specific shit.

George: Yeah.

Josh: Yet she's got these satchels. The other thing is—

Tommy: This is just getting your privilege in check, bro. I've got my dried, you know, Blend 43 or whatever. We've got a hot— I got a big bag of it, son.

Josh: Well, the, the other thing is Bree, um, heard us mentioning Deb, the, um, the potato. Yeah, she's ended up watching videos.

Tommy: She actually grew up eating a lot of Deb, and it sounds just fitting that she's drinking, yeah, pre-made coffee.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, Uh, we had another email, uh, was it from Mark? Have we read out the email from Mark? I haven't got it with me.

George: Yeah, from Switzerland.

Josh: Yeah, was there any— was there anyone else? I feel like we had other emails. Uh, leave us a review on our podcast as well.

George: You got some recipes from—

Josh: oh yeah, Karen, George's mum. Yeah, there was that as well. Is there anything else?

George: Avocado with black bean vinaigrette.

Josh: Just having a look.

George: Um, should definitely make that actually.

Tommy: It looks yum. That sounds good. Yeah, you know, but you get into— oh dude, you need avocado though.

Josh: I've got a recipe. Avocados are very hard this time, you know.

George: Yeah, are they?

Josh: Yeah, well, well, because yeah, like they're gonna last for a fucking 2 days. Oh yeah, wouldn't be preparing for 6 months, you know.

Tommy: Anyway guys, it's, um, it's the end of the day, end of the show.

Josh: Great. So tomorrow, what time?

Tommy: Are we doing one? Do you want to do 1 o'clock?

Josh: Can we do a virtual drink at 1 o'clock? Just we all have one.

Tommy: I'd rather hold off until the end of the day, 4 PM, get stuck into it.

Josh: I'm sick of doing the show late though. I want to do it.

Tommy: What do you got on, mate? You're going to be somewhere?

Josh: No, I just feel like if we get it done, it's like it gives us momentum. It gives us like— Does it?

Tommy: For them what?

Josh: To be like, to be up and about, because like I feel like Like, yeah, tomorrow. When do you like doing the show?

George: Um, I mean, I prefer earlier, but I mean, 4 o'clock's okay.

Josh: It's 4 o'clock.

George: It's not just not—

Josh: it's just— yeah, we could, we can knock off at 4 o'clock, mate.

Tommy: Start later, sleep in. You got no kids, you can sleep till 10.

Josh: I like the idea of we could do, you know, 10 o'clock. Like, I don't know if I'm, if I'm at home, which I am, but just think about everyone else if they're at home or whatever. If it's 4 o'clock, they want to fucking unwind by the end of it.

Tommy: If we do, you think everyone's at home at the moment?

Josh: Yeah, exactly. I reckon everyone's at home.

George: But you unwind watching.

Josh: Actually, that's interesting. Let's do a poll. Let's— yeah, no, but the thing is, I think there's something at— okay, 1 o'clock on Friday, everyone's— no one's gonna be productive at 1 o'clock on Friday.

Tommy: Can you just— let's put it on Instagram.

Josh: Ian says if you start drinking at 1, you'll be smashed by 4. Lara says 4 PM means we all tune in after a day of work instead of getting pissed.

Tommy: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good point because people aren't necessarily— there's people still working. You're saying you want to get momentum for the day, but people are also doing their own thing.

Josh: Okay, so when you get 4, I reckon you can knock off at 4.

Tommy: So people are working all day and then they get to enjoy A beer and a show.

Josh: Okay, 4 o'clock, red wine.

Tommy: I don't think 4. I think—

Josh: Harry, what are you gonna have?

Harry: Water.

Josh: Really? You're not gonna have anything?

Harry: Okay, I can't afford anything.

Josh: Now what about if I get— brought— gave you something to take home? Actually, no, I don't really have anything. Champagne or something?

Harry: No, I've got a bottle of red back home that I've got for directing, but I'm saving that for a special time.

Tommy: He's saving that to pour all over himself. I would watch that, Harry.

Josh: 3D Deal style. Oh, we should get— we should try and get 3D Dill on tomorrow.

Tommy: That'd be good. Well, what's the time?

Harry: Yeah, how's the time difference work?

Josh: Yeah, I have no idea.

Harry: You don't want him drinking at 5 AM.

Josh: Yeah, why not? Does it?

Tommy: Um, it's middle of the night for Dill. It'd be like—

Josh: what time is it now?

Tommy: 5:23 AM. Okay, in Ontario, Canada, 2 AM. It's around the same.

Josh: There'd be 2 AM.

Tommy: Poor deal. You know, he'd stay up though. He's probably locked down. The quarantine is probably going down there.

Josh: Sean says 4 PM works for me. I'll have a breakfast out. He's in the UK. Yes.

Tommy: Are you locked down, Sean?

George: Are you?

Tommy: I heard the UK is going into lockdown tomorrow. Can we get a confirmation on that before we finish the show? Thank you, Sean. I would like to hear that. I heard a couple of late—

Josh: says it's late, 5:30 AM in Florida. This is perfect.

Tommy: Glenn, just push through from the night before, mate. From today for you. Yeah, thanks, buddy. Or tomorrow for you.

Josh: Yeah, and yes, I'm just saying if there's any others. The other thing I would suggest, guys, is go and listen to Jason PJ's podcast from today. Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta mention it's because Tommy Jacket got Do you have any response? Didn't he? It's pretty hurtful when someone says the hot one because it's always— it's sort of implying that the other one's a fucking dog, you know. So what's wrong with being a dog? Tommy is the hot one, which— what does that leave? Where does that leave me?

Tommy: Well, just the other one. You'll get your own class of— you'll get a class of your own. The bit eccentric one, the one, you know, the bit anxiety-ridden guy.

Josh: That's what—

Tommy: didn't Jay say that?

Harry: Now that you've got your good hair.

Josh: Yeah, but this is just for today. So anyway, schools are closed though, says Sean. Say again, what did Sean say? Not 100%. They're not 100% lockdown, but schools are closed. But you probably can go just to news and find it, find that out there as well. Great. It's The Daily Talk Show. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Again, if you're just listening, you can watch us live on YouTube. Please do that. You can give us a review at Apple Podcasts too. And yeah, we'll just continue to upload the show as we regularly do, plus the live streams as well, as we try and sort out what the end of the world can look like.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, lockdown does mean that we can do it every day live.

Josh: Yep. So Saturday, Sunday, all that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Yep.

Josh: Yeah.

Harry: Okay.

Tommy: All right, guys.

Josh: I like Chip Sam Sandham 97 says the quality of Mason's webcam is impeccable.

Tommy: Yeah, that's what a C200 gets you.

Josh: You're right. I can't tell if they're joking or not.

George: I think the colour is probably a troll.

Harry: It doesn't look too bad anyway, because it's a Canon, so I thought it would have had better colours than the Panasonic.

Josh: Well, he's just— he's got it on a very—

George: yeah.

Tommy: All right, guys, drink water and stay healthy.

Josh: Bye everyone. Have a good one.

Tommy: Love you.

Josh: Bye.