- February 8, 2020
Cam Shand – Video Creator, YouTuber
Cam creates videos exploring the world of tech whilst maximising on budget-friendly methods to create or get a result previously seen as out of reach.
We chat about Pause Fest, how to measure success, bargains and DIY tech hacks, and winning the My Rode Reel Competition.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– My Rode Reel Competition
– Pause Fest
– Measuring success
– Bargains and selling
– Being a DJ
– Melbourne Bounce
– Being an IT Professional
– Getting into VR
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 602. It's weekend Banta and we've got cam Shannon, the builder. All the way from Bendigo.
Yeah, my great. Great to meet you. I feel like I know you.
Yeah, me too. I've listened to so many episodes. It's, it's weird to be
well, what's your YouTube channels and YouTube channels? Because it's a it's Friday. I'm recording this. And you're on the beer. You're a big unit. I like I actually appreciate when people a lot. Oh, you guys are so much bigger than I thought. I'm summarising it just
smaller. He thought he was smaller on Well,
you never know. But you've only been listening to us instead of watching our videos and asked to we've been watching your stuff. So it's nice to meet you in person and in your background. Yeah,
And you also do great content.
Yeah, try to put in as much effort as I can each week. A couple weeks a
night you you you've would have appreciated you've been really consistent last What? Six months? You reckon?
Yeah. last six months for sure.
Yeah. Well, you won a road award so road to the road real Is that what it's called?
Yeah, my road real every year. So it's, I think it's just in Australia, I think they say is the biggest prize pool, short film competition. Over a million dollars in prizes was this year, from sponsors. So it's not just right. It's like a huge, huge resource Blackmagic Design Australian company, pace of other glass. And yeah, I took out one of their major categories. In the short film competition, graduation shittier. Dude, how good's it feel winning something? It is it is such a payoff. I think that video was over 30 hours. Probably Yeah, almost 3040 hours of work. And I was like, I was loving it.
It was a three so describe what the video was.
Yeah. Alright. So it was in the virtual reality category. So VR category. Is it a modem? I was like, does it have to be 360 video or can I just like make something about virtual reality and now I can It needs to be like that bubble you put on a headset you you watch it and I was like cool I don't have another cameras so one of my mates that does like VFX works for one of these cameras taught myself like editing it and mixing ambisonics audio which is like that like when you when you turn your head the audio follows you in that bubble so I was like I've gotta like go all out like a do it like a small video project trying to take as good as possible. And yes, I'd like coming to this video so it was a tool of my YouTube studio. But to add the extra flair ends up with like three of me in the room having a conversation with myself talking about the parts of the rooms I love it. The whole thing was like it needs to be immersive and all of that. And then I did the bond scenes breakdown which actually took out the major category which which I thought I had no shot like no hope because it was like people are shooting on reds like this is like a proper like category because it's it's like they go from a database they bring in for that shoots he shoots a teams of like 1020 like that gets It's a big
category we spoke about red cameras before and we said that red cameras white selfie business model that it also won't win you the road competition will
love it. So you're in Melbourne you attended paws fest yes first time
Yes. Well it says 2020 Kevin as a creator I was very very lucky
and so what is it because I did you speak it that Oh no,
no I I've attended a few times before. Back in the day it's been it's sort of was trying to do the whole South by South by Southwest in Melbourne is
it Why do you think South South by Southwest have just started quiet South By
the way I think when you call
South by Southwest it's like what's the first name? Yeah, yeah, so like if they're famous You don't know me
south by we got lazy. We don't say that to say SF and stuff. San Francisco
was a big one in Canada and and then you just to not a non local. Not cool in America because they don't call it San Fran right?
So Kim interpose Yeah, what's the deal?
Did you wanna buy the ticket? Like it was a crate? Oh, yeah, is that three levels of tickets create a leader Explorer, I think common, which one's like the top tier, but it varies in price. And if you're getting like really early, it's like half the price. So I'm going for 80 bucks, which was like, super cool, because it's normally like 1200. I think it's 500 or more. There's like 1500 by the end of it. If you're wanting to explore one, you also got like access to workshops. And like other things you can pay for the higher tier. The Creator is like, you've got to be a startup. And you have to apply for it. So my application was like, I want to get into like more of this 360 like VR content creation, augmented reality, and a lot of the talks and stuff were about that and some of the attendees were going to be in that industry in that field. So yeah, I'll just like put up a little application and they shot back saying, Yeah, you you get it
That's awesome. Dude,
I I don't know if there's a market for people to spend 1500 bucks here in Australia for tickets I couldn't that I would never spend it.
Yeah, I think it's like it's for those corporates or whatever it's like your education budget that makes and you have a couple of grand a year to spend and it's like I'm gonna you know,
spend it on that the first thing to go when the economy itself is people dropping 1500 bucks for a gronk in their team to go and spend three days off work. So what does it cost you at the end of it? 1500 bucks plus 200 bucks each day for salaries.
Think about like government agencies and said it's a
teletran wake. Yeah. staff member
it's I think they price it because I'm when I went to South by South by Southwest You know, it was
in San Fran you
know, they It was like 1200 bucks a ticket or whatever us it was like super expensive, but I guess it's for certain if from an industry point of view. You know, it's for industry people, but I think it's great the pores are obviously having the different sort of tears so that other people can go in if our
company's big enough and we're paying for our staff to go show me this video. And just what do you mean that I sort of at my words, that I'm saying, why would you ever spend business is big enough? And we're putting our employees through to go to South by Southwest, we're paying for them.
Right now, I hope you're enjoying it.
Yeah, it's a networking opportunity. Like they pitch that like heavily especially for those tears. So for those tears, if you're like an investor, if you buy like the top tier, whatever it is, you get access to the deck of like all the startups they're attending, what they do, who they are, what funding their London may be chasing as well. So when you apply as a creative to get like, you can also like take and say like, I want to, like try get funding and I want to like do the pitch stand ups and all of that. So the I guess the three days people haven't heard of podcasts before they they run its first yeah technology they've been technology like SXSW of a show they run different like I say seminars but it's not like it just talks people from like industry so we have like Disney was a Netflix was there Google had like his people and they do what same as the Sony like it was just like big industry like players coming up breaking down what they're planning to do for the next couple years in like the tech space or what they have been doing and like and also just like people talk about cool shit.
What is what was the good takeaway like I think when you hear Netflix and Google people from their Tilly lychee Connect, I get a bit excited from that. But what
are you here? Hi. I was like, I was expecting for those ones to be like, I'm gonna take away something really good but I took more away from just like the random Joe dude that I've never heard of before that was talking on a topic that I locked I think because I'm bit more open. I guess like they want to give away a lock then They're hiding behind a corporate thing. And it's also like, it is Polish but not as polished. Yeah, they're just like really good talkers. But um, I really like Blackmagic designs stuff. I guess I use the Cinema Camera for my YouTube videos. And grant did these talk and he's this He's the founder right?
Yeah, he's great. Yeah, we want you on the show.
Dude. He's He's a cool guy. I said hi to him after his I literally like everyone's in line. This is how this will come across. But everyone's trying to get something from him. I guess. Like that's the thing like afterwards like you can go talk to the person. They're like, hey, I want you to sponsor this or Hey, I like that type thing.
Not the place to ask somebody to be honest. Yeah.
Yeah, I was just like
a ticket cost
the entry fee just to get it out. So that was like, Hey, dude, like love what you're doing. I'm like, your talk is really good as inspiring like hearing how you build your business and stuff. And like that was it just worked out? Like, I was like, I don't want anything from him. I just want to like say like good work, because he covered like, It was really good. He's talking about if you're starting a business and like the drive and passion you have to have behind what you're doing, not for money and how how it will build and one of the stories was that he, he was at a like a conference, they had like a six by six metre, like you know, booth and all their tech, they'll making capture cards back in there. That's how I started. They found like a market those like, like really just crappy support for the film industry for indie filmmakers, smaller media houses, so that was my capture codes. And so but he's like showing up for that second, he's got holes in his shoes. He's walking around and he's like, sent like one of these employees to go by and like do instals because he's like, running the money because he's like, I don't want greedy investors coming into the business and turning us into like a full profit. Like, we just want to like make money and change everything. So his talk was really good because he was like talking about if you love the business and you want it to be your passion project and like and do well. You know, get people in that like in the industry as well and passionate about what you're trying to do, don't just go in and get an investor that has like heaps of money, and they ain't gonna try and skew it. And
I think it's a hard piece of information to swallow in terms of you getting inspired to do something because you love it, and then you do it. And then the reality sets in about having to make some kind of money, and then you want to buy new gear or buy, you know, buy this or that. And so then you can shift your focus to it being about money, but there is going to get the sentiment around doing something you love and you be rewarded on the other side, you know, and so I I just find it is like a constant juggle of those two things. Because fight trying to make money and that being the pure goal is kind of serving a need of the individual, not the How can I give you value? And how is this about you, not just me, you know,
what also feels like? Like, I guess from that investor perspective, like there are going to be people who are passionate and have money? Yeah, who are willing to make that bit? And so I think that that's part of it too, is it's like just finding the right person. And the right person isn't necessarily the one that's got the most amount of money. Hmm, yeah. How do you measure success with the stuff that you're doing at the moment? So with YouTube and trying to grow that, right.
Yeah, interesting. One. I, it's hard to like not look at analytics, I guess. Like that's the like, if you're a creator, to like, try and not look at at that number. I don't look at it as like a subscriber or lacks number, I just look at the growth I guess. And retention rates that's like, this is my success. So it's like 30% growth each month. So compounds. So it's like, I guess, like becoming quite a steep arts like growth curve. So that means like, or I'm doing something right. Like I'm doing okay with that. But then on the biggest scale is also gonna be beforehand like building relationships with brands. Like, I know, it's like some my friends will further and the 10 like show that it's like, oh, you're like if like a lot of influences as shields, they're like, Oh, I'm gonna push this thing for this company. And I'm like yeah, I'm very conscious of like not trying to get into bed with a brand that I don't believe in. I don't like this stuff. But I really respect like brands that work with people in the field to like, allow them to build a following but also serve a purpose I guess for for advertising this stuff. So yeah, the more that I work in and build writers brands, that's how I at the moment, and calling success
buying things secondhand. You're quite good. You're quite good at it. I love it. I'm a
Yeah, right. on it.
Um, let's see what's your best purchase? What's your favourite when it goes in specialist. So my best
Best Buy I've actually done was office works pricing era. It was. Yeah, it was like this is like when I was like four or five years ago. tablet was meant to be like one sheet. They were the numbers the wrong way around. So it was like a two grand cheaper than it should have been. And now they're like, Oh, well that's what this thing says. So you get it. So I use it for like three years broke the screen, chucked it on eBay made 500 bucks. I'm
sorry. Good. Yeah, that's
live in stuff.
Selling. I've got heaps of stuff I need to sell. Let's say that I've used I want to sell it on. What's the water wine? Like? What are the tips? Do I show you the eBay Facebook marketplace? Yeah, eBay is good if you can get the free listings. So like you can make a new account they'll give you 10 free listings.
That means later and take the 10% cut.
We're gonna sit like if I was to put a camera or something it is Yeah. Is it going to just like go in a few days or could it be on there for months
you have put beating on like,
there is that depends on your pricing. You can do right now with a make an offer or you can do bidding with a make an offer. So yeah, sometimes I'll just be like, check it out. For The what now put the make an offer on there. The issue though is if you are doing the new account try and get like some free listing stuff. You don't know history, no history and people who were like this is a scam, like 00 you know like what
is he like cut? Like if you're saying something decent? What's the cost anyway?
Well, isn't it 9% night wasn't really so if you all saw as a DJ for a couple years that was like my job when
I was nine DJ Josh and his
voice. The guys still figured out
some clubs in bit
bendiga Bendigo Yeah.
The club you still have the decal on your car. That's what they call you there.
I had it on my car, my plate Camry a little like decal on the back. I was loving it. CDs
Oh, I think there's a couple of mixtapes but it was mostly like SoundCloud, SoundCloud was a thing.
Like what do you mean you just play just SoundCloud at the venues
all as in how I mixed it Yeah, sorry, sad. See sad, sad giants. Got some couple of 1000 Mark threes? I took USP would you say
was when 1000 Mark through
AJ Piniella come back disc jockey, there's a model. And then they went from having like, you could do an SD card or a CD to them like a 2000 nexuses. Like the light along with USB
CD. CD j 1000s.
Yeah. 1000 that was like
them, but my mates were talking about it.
So was it the hardware then?
Yeah. Hardware starts to plateau. It's like a unit and the heavy mix.
Yeah, I just I didn't know that there was a very specific model that everyone was always a real popular
version would be like, let's say 200. Do so we plug
it into would you plug it into a computer, no mixer.
So the computers are MIDI controllers. And so my first time learning to DJ, I was really lucky. I knew a girl that worked at the club. And I was getting into it. I had music background like I've learned piano and guitar so I I picked it up quite quick and I'm like an IT professional. So like, the computer side of learning the ins and outs of software is pretty quick for me. So I was like, this is pretty cool. And within like three months I was like offered to go into a set in the club.
This is universal, universal nightclub.
like, he's like, you know the nickname and yet it was like where the initiatives will go to say Thursday night. So I woke up and I've got my laptop, my my MIDI controller because I didn't know how to use a DJ. I couldn't afford them. I didn't have anyone that had them. So I'm just like to the resident DJ goes DJ Roscoe is super nice guys. It's all the guy he's just like, he's the night owl. He's always there. Just mixing like all night to like to the lights come on. And it's scary when the lights come on. And I'm just like, dude, I don't know how to use that stuff. Can you make this plug into that? And he's just like, Oh, yeah, okay, so he like takes my lawn out for my son and puts it into the club. I do my set and I leave From that the club and it was like really nice was like all right, you can come into practice on I like acid ej is if you want from that practice DJing Um, so there's this like interesting thing people like you just press play right that's the that's the common is what I hear is the common people's assumption of of a disc jockey in the digital age because there is sync options.
You've got no bait Josh and you could DJ Yes, you queue and then it will find the bait like it's my brother's got something called a tractor. Yeah, and my and my bro was gone from vinyl to CD j 1000s. He had those and, and now he's got this thing. It literally has a line down the middle. And you see the beat with the waveform. Yeah, and you see it when it hits the beat and it always aligns with this middle bit, right, you can press sync, it will align the next track to the moment it hits that bait and so you can hear it all. He'll speed that is perfect. He just speeds it up for effect is a lot one, and you can hear it and you can and then you just go and you drop it in. And you need a J and so it's like he's attracted though, like you can actually drop out so many of the base there's a bit more control it's like And so yeah, it's a weird one because people that would have gone Ah, turn your turn your nose up at it. It's now like it's now just offering something What do you think cam
in this using so yeah what what Tommy's describing, so
that's legit. Yeah. Because people using that it isn't, you know actually doing what is the chronic version?
what's the what's the if you're a crafts person you care what does that look like?
Yeah, so you're like tapping the cue button, which is like when you hold the cue button, it will like stop playing the song. Once you let go, it goes back to where it was queued before you press the button. So you've got scratch with a platter. Like say you go to, like pretend you go like a one or says Oh, it's mimicking the old technology. Yeah, so you're scratching through you finding like the pop of the song we want to bring it in. If you got an extended mix a lot of club remixes will have 30 seconds or a minute of like literally just beats. So it's like the cake in the high hats. And then like a bit of the several coming. And that's when DJ start to actually like mix the the tracks coming in, say like I've got a 15 second window, I'm going to just scratch three to 45 seconds. I know that a minute. That's when I like cut into the next song. So you just start tapping away with the cue button. But you've got to like hit place off if you're off a little bit then use the side of the city j Plaza. It doesn't actually like scratch it will like LA to just like nudge it folds and back a little bit. Get the sweet spot and then like then your beats are aligned. That's granted the BPM is matched and that's where the next part of DJing comes in. If you're using sync, it matches the BPM that is like how many obviously beats per minute are in it. And is that like Zac Efron movie where he's like 128 BPM like the right of the human hi or something, it's like the trailer and it goes back just absolutely hammered block every. Just like that's like the sweet spot. That's just like ATM so that's like the most common one on 28 that's really easy to memorise because like punch every verse or segment of the song is 15 seconds, so you can get for in every minute
so so what's your favourite? per minute?
Oh, it's around that like the 121 30 just because that's what ADM scene and that's what was
bounced was the biggest thing back when austie What's Melvin bounce? Oh, user and mobile?
Yeah. What is it? What
is it just like the kick it's, it's like the do the kick bass, but the offbeat bass is usually like a really like aggressive sore synth. And it was just like, so in Bendigo you called it the Melbourne beat.
And there was the Melbourne Shuffle. We just called it the beach. No. French
onion serve, as you know is that it was the category if you went online, people overseas were searching It was called the moment so go spot sorry. And like he's a prodigy was like he like rose from that that I guess genre that they all crafted but it goes way back orchestrated like there's heaps of like older DJ started this this style but then you will Flexbox he just like took off Jeff Fletcher like these guys like had songs like savage was on some of the tracks like it just started like getting this like world presence because like people were just loving it like it was something that is good so it's it's so
conducive to nightclubs and yeah re like festivals and she I think it
also took off really well because it is that 120 BPM so it's easier to mix yeah so people like that wanted to is a lot of like canning like every DJ but there's DJ is that have like different levels of skill. So if you're just starting out, this is like that's easy to start out on. That's what you'll start out on so it probably also helped.
I'm nervous 75 but big
Down in the hip hop.
Yeah, it is easy to mix obviously.
On your what CD well say they want thousand
Yeah, what my brain is testing
the DJ safie similar to the camera stuff so people that used turntables would have frowned upon CD jazz and things like that when they started but then like you look at someone like Moby or any of these old school DJ, they now use CD jet it's like going to a nightclub never been they can't be fact taking their thing. And then it's the progression so film is like now people game medium format and digital and things like using a C 200 versus some fucking expensive old camera. Yeah, so yeah, these How much do you focus on the gear versus what you're actually creating with the gear specific to filmmaking?
I feel like it's a bit less because the quality aspects not this a filmmaking it's like you're chasing the right of the full frame because you know that like there's an inherent benefit, because of like the like the highest sensor like a 4k or whatever, like the filmmaking, there's like the inflect the teaser right there with the DJing it's like, once you kind of got a good mixer, like you, I guess you could do more effects the next teaser, but you could still DJ well with the lower end like the audio come out like the, the, the DAX, and stuff built into like the unit like everything's still high quality audio so you can still like create good stuff. And like what I let on you can like use a laptop, grab a $400 controller and still mix and have all the effects because the computers doing the processing. That's just unreliable. That's why people use Macs. That's the whole lack DJs often have a Mac they're running Serato or something because it's like, not gonna it's just it's like less gonna crash. Yeah, I've been DJ like house parties and events, like I did, like weddings and stuff. And it's like, it's such as like you just sweating bullets. If you're using a Windows laptop, really like I love windows. I'm a Windows user like through and through. But audio it doesn't do audio well.
They said Steve job you had a fucking party the 20 it
is a professional you describe yourself before
Yeah, that's my area.
Yeah. You've got a job. Yes. Yeah I thought YouTube was job to be honest.
Oh thank you
yeah that's a couple of hours I puts out
such a model putting into it.
I did sorry I did see you say that you film videos at like 5am you at all?
Yes 5am I've I said that is when the increase of output obviously rose. About six months ago probably longer now. It's been almost a year. I was like trying to do stuff after like work. I was feeling like more burnt out at that point. Because like he'd spent like the whole day like nine to five job. Robin he
Yeah, doing anything when you get over there. he's a he's a workhorse. He's actually 24 hours support for this business. He works 24 hours.
I'd love to You would like a headset to take polls. Yeah.
We should make that happen. But
yes, I was the Slack
channel, by the way. Yeah.
So I managed computers at the university, like 3000 assets under me and another guy. So it's hardware replacement software managing. So like an academic was I have on this piece of software in this computer lab to teach. And then we like,
make that happen, I guess. And so there was that cliche THAT IT professionals can be quite difficult in regards to like, you know, you put through a request, like, yeah, I'll make that happen maybe next year or whatever.
Yeah, it really depends on the workplace, I think.
Yeah, you guys pretty good.
Yeah. Outside, to be honest, a pretty good we have people like when you get like, I used to work on the Service Desk. So I did that for a couple years. And you'll get academics that come in, and they'll call up and they'll get help and just like they've just started from somewhere else. And they're like, Whoa, like you fix that then? Like, yeah,
what sort of software
with the weirdest type of software that Warning on the shot code put
all right, I
like it's like is it real niche niche software that like, I learned
so much stuff? Oh, nice, nice
Milan and this kind of like the perfect time. So we're building a house and we had a tree where we want to put out driveway, super annoying estates these days, they go like, here's all the blocks and I just like plop trees randomly down the street. And if any listen is like dealt with this unit, like the pain that it takes to try and get either in your like settlement or like with the council to move a tree, and also in the code installing the software for this guy. And he's in this piece of software that shows you where every single tree is everywhere, how old it is from like their surveying data. And like what type of trade is where its roots everywhere. It's like everywhere.
And I was like Google Maps the train.
It's just google mess trays and it seems long and things. It's like the people I guess Work for the council like other people, and I'll just like shit. I'm not cutting a tree. Because I know where it is
I sorry, how much? How much is that software licence? I have no idea could we get it is just the everyday continue Molly cost money. There's like, you know, I have the current of offices going around this ArcGIS ArcGIS if you saying that
dashboard says I mean diversity in America so ArcGIS I didn't even never knew what it did. We just always like just instal the stuff. That's the crazy thing. Like I've learned how like x ray dental software works and all these things. Like I could probably do an X ray on someone. Like there's a show but like, you learn it, you learn like the ins and outs of these things. But um, yeah, this is this like, basis software. I was like, what does it do? And then I'll just like link to this thing for someone. And they've like, mapped the world. And it's like that game that app. And vinick pant plan. pandemic. Yes, I'm on blanking on your phone. And it sounds like on that game like it's like The virus is like spreading this this portal literature like how many people are infected where they are, like how many deaths has it been and where everything is for coronavirus for Brenda but she was just like, Damn Now I know what this software does like it's like la it's like patches into like the wire.
And so you're seeing you having access to this
game. Anyone can access to this because it was just like some private office probably but like a link that got like shared out that this university created. So like I said they use the space of software to collect data geometrically. And like give you different like, running totals of things. Yeah.
Keeping like a tab of it.
Yeah, we're like bookmarked at work. And it's scary. It's just like that movie that movie contagion, talking about, like every day, how much it like grows, and you watch this thing and it shows you like because it maps it every single day and it shows you the spike and the curve is just exponential in
the zombie movie with Brad Pitt.
Which I will
seek wasn't it? Like it seemed sort of an outbreak. So you said the stuff yet?
Yes. So it's hard to go. I was like all right i need to do up my production output and I guess yeah just gotta get get the ball rolling 5am so I was like I'm gonna suck it up at 5am each morning and it took time it took like probably two months to dive back from being like an 8am wake up with like 10 minutes from work so I can just jump in the car it's like Bendigo problems. It was yeah shall jump the car go to work. So I was like, let's dial it back. So so they like 15 minutes like each week and that's why I suggested people I'm like, I've watched I watched a few things on like, you know how to luck self. Just just do this stuff by yourself. And then like, don't go cold turkey on it, you get sick. And then one night, I was at a party was like a business like celebrating party someone. And I was like, I want to be committed and get up at 5am and I was like sick for like the next week
because you got up at
5am and I didn't respect my luck buddy and like giving it the rest of that needed.
You don't drink That
I don't drink. I'm gonna do
heavy drink in the car and that was a weird thing being a DJ, you get like, like, limited by Yeah. Max loves me from that
chair. All right. There's a mattress here. I didn't tell you I slept at the office last night.
I saw that. Oh, really? You saw that?
I was just like creeping through the window. The second Did
Now you must have I live to age. Just before I came in about 45 my marriages or good guys just if you wanted to know.
Well, I know. I saw Bruce die. Male Jay
says no, no, I came in last night because the thing about having a young child and one car and not wanting and being you taught us not wanting to get an Uber is that I wanted I wanted to come in super early to start on some work that I did do. It was earlier. Oh, actually I started
the security camera at By early 515 or something like yeah and so I was like it was like
845 and I was like me can draw me into the office buddy but just gone down to bed. I know we took buddy with us so just before he was a bit
change the story because you realise that you'd left but but you
know me sister was at home and I said no no, I don't want to she let's not worry her about because he gets up at night he gets up when he's going to bed he starts coming at 10 times anyway so I'm he dropped me in and I stayed here but I got up at like 430
What was that like staying at the office? It was pretty noisy actually really
a trines and then a garbage fucking track about 2am is crazy. And then the you know the the restaurant next door and then but then in the morning it was pretty fine but the first trains at like 445 and so anyway, that's the mattress the expensive mattress
on the tree on that tray thing with the states that we signed it you so you you moved into a new state? Yes. What's the deal with your internet?
mbn Yeah fibre to the premise to the premise
Yes. What is it 50 F and then now hundred that's good a little bit
if I the extra
what's the fastest you can get 100
yeah 100 I like 98 or 90 you gotta have like obviously packet drop so it's not gonna be like the full bandwidth but you get for uni ID port so you can have theoretically if you Bridget for 400 down and like I know if you ever do not know if you like running or in service I guess if like with the legalities behind it, but you could you know, take a Nason high strain like web service on a different port. So it's then it's separated from your home network and
either Yeah, your face so we don't worry about that. We got Ventra IP
Yeah, hosting. Yeah, yeah.
And so you wanting to
know nice, but
you've got to know nice people
are hosting a good host.
You wanting to do more video production is a because I see you stuff you do. You've got quality of someone who could have a video production company. does just that. But then you also,
I started down that route. Probably end of last year me last year, I started going to that. And then I was like, I can do it, but finding like the challenge or like the creativity in that I was like, I want something extra. So I'm gonna do that 360 video, I was like, this is really cool. So that's why I guess was opposed fest to try and like link up with other VR creators all kind of learn that that world so I continue to do what I'm already doing. But then try and I guess producer businesses or like I guess a content in the mercy of content creation, so move into that because that's like the future, I guess, you know, in 10 years time. We're all watching stuff on our phones. It's going to change everyone's gonna have a VR headset. So
you reckon you reckon that's gonna? The way it's gonna go?
Yeah, the the, it's all about accessibility. So like five years ago, virtual reality you needed a gaming PC, you know, like three grand Pac 1500 dollar headset. today. It's already a $650 standalone unit for 16 depth of field which means you can walk around a room you don't need any computer you don't need any lighthouses. So like once you're bringing them accessibility, now grandma's gonna bite flow GMA Christmas time, and he's gonna be like living on it. He's gonna throw his friends. They're going to get
a junkie, they collect this stuff, just like always in the realms
from that, I guess that's where it's coming from
a from a user experience point of view. Is it something that you can do for a decent portion of time without things like eyestrain?
Yeah, interesting. I did the
72 hour challenge.
Yeah. Now there's like a virtual I think a moment I'm blanking on the name.
Here we get the joint in Colorado.
It's if you type in V.
So I did that and afterwards, my eyes were a bit strained but that was probably because like it's not urine headsets. You know? dial it perfectly in. But that was like an hour of like very like high intense focus like stuff like you're really like looking for people and stuff. But if you're like a bit more chilled, and I'm like, like one of my friends he did like four hour stint for six hours afterwards. He's like, Oh, geez, am I back in the real world now but like you can, you can do a longer session.
I'm gonna bring my Oculus. I got bought an Oculus for my 30th which is up,
go, go, go, go.
Go. Yeah, I'll bring it in. Because then we can channel that and just
load a unit. I'll probably vomit.
It is not playing with it. I haven't played with it since we played with really year and a half ago. Thanks a lot. And it was a great privilege. I
definitely would you buy it if I'll sell it. I bought Yeah, would you
not? Yeah. It's already Oh, sorry.
Cam cam Shand on YouTube. Yeah, we want to get you 2000 subs.
You close like a 70 is Social Blade says buy and sell too much
social like good should we sign up?
It gives you projections they use like they're an AI to look at your current growth rates and then the stats of every
other group I tell you what they couldn't predict Matt D Avella.
Think you look at your life. Yeah, but what if I have one big video?
And what if Matt posted one? I think we should have what's your YouTube handle? Cam shante
forward slash cam Shand Yep, check it out. Get him out the
yeah, I've got the URL but the old stuff because they've got the domain campaign.com
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