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Episode 53968:58

Surprising Work Experience Harry

We thought we'd surprise Harry with a special appearance from his favourite guest, the one and only Queen Gronk. We chat about chores, Spotify's 2019 Wrapped, gauging your clout and Gemma's gift guide.

Show Notes

–A surprise for Harry
–Tanning
–Chores
–Spotify's 2019's Wrapped
–Gauging clout
–Gemma's tattoo
–Renting luxury houses
–Owning Stonehenge
–Gemma's gift guide

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Gemma Watts prioritises 'clout' (being booked for gigs, selling product) over raw follower count when assessing social media influence.
  • –Successful niche online businesses (e.g. Five Minute Journal, Struthless/Campbell) tend to win through strong branding rather than low manufacturing cost alone.
  • –Rich homeowners rent out their houses (e.g. via Luxe Houses) for brand launches and photoshoots partly for exposure and architectural recognition, not just money.
  • –Vitamin D can reportedly be absorbed with as little as ~20 minutes of sun on skin not normally exposed, according to Gemma, who otherwise avoids the sun and takes supplements.
  • –Personal/anecdotal detours (Stonehenge family claim, asbestos email chain, optometrist fainting) dominate the episode more than any single structured topic.

Questions this episode answers

What is a B&S ball?

In the episode it's explained as a 'bachelor and spinster' ball, a country social event (Josh references 'Ute Muster' style events) that Gemma Watts is emceeing that night.

How does Gemma Watts put together her annual Christmas beauty gift guide?

She starts planning in early October, reaches out to brands whose products she already likes or that have interesting holiday/limited-edition items, and narrows it down to around 100 products rather than reviewing everything she's sent.

Does follower count matter for social media influence, according to the episode?

Gemma Watts argues that 'clout' — being booked for gigs and proving you can sell products for a brand — matters more than raw follower numbers, and the two aren't necessarily linked.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's a Daily Talk Show episode 539.

0:07

Josh: It's Weekend Banter. We got the full gronk squad.

0:10

Harry: I've always wanted to clap us in.

0:13

Tommy: Oh yeah, on the clap, I feel like, um, it doesn't feel right to be clapping without Gem Watts. Gem Watts is normally with us.

0:21

Josh: I know, she loves a good clap when we sort of come into a show. Should we do another clap?

0:27

Harry: Yeah, yeah.

0:27

Tommy: Oh yeah, Gemma Watts, Queen Gronkh is in the building. 97, you can fuck off.

0:34

Harry: See, she does wear a crown 24/7.

0:37

Gemma: I'm in my best outfit too.

0:39

Josh: All right, coming through. Harry, we wanted to surprise you.

0:43

Harry: How are you, babe? That was my—

0:48

Gemma: hey buddy, I've got no makeup on and my active dress.

0:52

Tommy: That's perfect.

0:54

Gemma: And a fresh tan.

0:55

Harry: How are we? What are you doing?

0:57

Gemma: I'm emceeing a ball.

0:59

Tommy: Oh, are you gonna be able to— oh, you're not gonna be able to do it.

1:01

Josh: A ball, you know, like the, uh, I'm very fancy.

1:07

Tommy: What sort of ball is it?

1:08

Josh: B&B? Yeah.

1:09

Harry: Oh, like a, um, B&S ball.

1:12

Josh: Yeah.

1:12

Tommy: What's a B&S ball?

1:13

Harry: I don't know, but you just call it a B&S ball. I don't know.

1:18

Josh: Um, it's like up in the country.

1:20

Gemma: She's done it.

1:21

Josh: Bachelor and spinster. These happen this month. The Ute Master up your way, Harry.

1:25

Gemma: Oh, that's the dream. I would love to go to the Ute Master.

1:27

Harry: Bundies on the back of the Ute.

1:29

Tommy: We've got two theatre people in the building.

1:33

Harry: Thespians.

1:34

Josh: What is that?

1:36

Gemma: Thank you already.

1:37

Tommy: Thespians. Is thespian just—

1:39

Harry: A thespian is a theatre person.

1:42

Josh: Is that an official term?

1:44

Tommy: Yeah, I think so. Can you look it up?

1:46

Harry: Otherwise I've been saying it for no reason for years.

1:49

Tommy: I thought a thespian— because I think you included that on the email you sent to us maybe, and I thought that it just meant human, like it was a fancy word for like sapiens.

1:58

Gemma: Oh my God.

1:59

Mason: Yeah, yeah. What does an actor or actress relating to drama and the theater?

2:03

Josh: Well, we've got two thespians.

2:06

Tommy: The crown is—

2:08

Josh: um, where did you keep that crown? Like, on the way here?

2:11

Gemma: Shoved in my bag, hence.

2:15

Tommy: Because really, I actually just spoke to Gem like at 7:30 in the morning and said, hey, can you—

2:20

Gemma: I was running out of my door, so lucky I kept all my crowns just with my keys. Pray for me. Yeah.

2:27

Tommy: What do you have? Do you have any questions for Gemma now?

2:28

Harry: I'm just disappointed you don't wear a crown 24/7.

2:32

Gemma: I'm going to actually start doing it, I think. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a good addition.

2:37

Josh: Have you liked Harry on the show this week, Gemma? Yeah. Oh.

2:41

Gemma: You sound surprised.

2:43

Harry: Well, I was surprised that I was doing all right.

2:45

Tommy: Like, I was reading through the DMs and was like, oh, Harry's through the DMs.

2:48

Harry: Have you got access? Yeah, 97 told me to read through them because people were talking about me.

2:53

Tommy: So I was like, yeah.

2:54

Gemma: Well, I got the shits yesterday because you were like, oh yeah, we should get Gem in. And I was like, Where's my phone call?

3:00

Tommy: And Bri actually just said, oh, are you getting Gem in? Like, I was like, yeah, that'd be a good idea. And she's like, yeah, you mentioned it. She's the only one that cares about me.

3:09

Josh: Well, now you're here. Harry, did you find anything else in the DMs? How deep did you go?

3:14

Harry: Only to my last one, which was the billboard, because I was trying to find, um, Sherry Baker's— Alex. Yeah, her handle.

3:21

Tommy: What were you gonna do?

3:22

Harry: Because I was gonna tag her in the, um, the Fat Friday stuff. The Fat Friday stuff. Because I thought she'd be very disappointed with how it turned out. So I thought, I'll tag her in it.

3:31

Tommy: What with theatre companies and things like that and Instagram accounts, is it quite stressful knowing who's managing it? What can you post and things like that?

3:40

Harry: With theatre? Yeah, we don't have one. We've only got, we've got a Facebook page, but that's one person's job. We all have access, but that's just her, her job.

3:51

Josh: Gemma, how many people know your password to your Instagram account?

3:54

Gemma: No one.

3:55

Josh: No one. So it's one person.

3:56

Gemma: All 4 of them.

3:58

Tommy: I think it's probably time for a change for us because we've got a few. 3 to Deal.

4:02

Josh: 3 to Deal.

4:02

Tommy: Probably Hazen Dib.

4:03

Gemma: Have you changed it since I did my grand final day takeover?

4:08

Tommy: No, I've got it.

4:09

Harry: Harry, I'll sign out tonight.

4:11

Tommy: I appreciate that.

4:11

Josh: But still, once you've signed out, it's really hard to sign out.

4:16

Gemma: It took me like a few days.

4:17

Tommy: Trying to sign out.

4:19

Josh: You were drunk.

4:20

Gemma: I was drunk.

4:22

Tommy: I couldn't do it. Signing in and signing out is very hard because with my new phone, it looks like it's signed in, but then it says you've been signed out. And you know, sometimes if you're in one username and then you get a notification, if you accidentally press on the notification of the other account, it will sign you out of the one that kept happening to me.

4:39

Josh: How many accounts?

4:40

Gemma: I was also like, huh?

4:42

Josh: How many accounts do you have? Say if you hit the little dropdown.

4:45

Gemma: I've got 4.

4:46

Tommy: 4.

4:46

Josh: Have you ever posted accidentally in one of them? Like I've commented back.

4:50

Gemma: No, but that was always my fear when I was doing social media management.

4:54

Tommy: My fear would be— Oh, is that Laundry?

4:56

Gemma: No.

4:57

Tommy: Would you manage that account?

4:57

Gemma: Everyone thought I was Celeb Spellcheck.

5:00

Josh: That's right, that's the one they thought I was.

5:02

Gemma: But then she called me a twat and I was like, oh really?

5:04

Tommy: But that could have been—

5:05

Gemma: then they thought it was like a Regina George Burn Book thing. Anyway, um, it was a whole thing. Um, my fear was posting like my shit on a client's.

5:13

Tommy: Yeah, no idea.

5:15

Josh: No, just a shit. Just like, I mean, girls don't do that.

5:21

Tommy: I want you to do that account, just daily content.

5:26

Gemma: Um, Oh my God, when did you start burning candles?

5:30

Tommy: Yeah, so that's— Mr. 97 brought that in. Did you get it from your mum?

5:33

Mason: Yeah, for my birthday, from Milligram.

5:36

Josh: I said this morning when I walked in, I said it smells like a handsome man's in the room. Yeah, it does, but there's no handsome men in this room.

5:43

Tommy: So who is he?

5:44

Josh: I want to see him. What do you think it smells like?

5:47

Gemma: Because, oh, I can only smell my own fake tan at this point. It's like coconut smelling, like a wet biscuit.

5:54

Tommy: Biscuit.

5:56

Josh: They used to smell a lot worse than that.

5:58

Gemma: They did.

5:58

Josh: That's not— that's not bad.

6:00

Gemma: This is 6 AM, so I'm yet to rinse.

6:02

Tommy: What does that mean? What does 6 AM mean?

6:04

Gemma: Like I did it at 6 AM.

6:06

Tommy: Oh really? You don't sleep in them?

6:08

Gemma: Well, I do, but I'm like, I just like to look very dark, so I slept in it and then rinsed and then went, nah, I'm gonna do another layer.

6:17

Tommy: When you go on holidays, are pre-tanning?

6:20

Gemma: Of course, I would never go in the sun, it's disgusting.

6:23

Josh: But so then if you do go in the sun, you wear sunscreen on the fake tan?

6:28

Gemma: Yes. So you can, but then you go in the water, whether it's like chlorine or salt water, it just, it fucks you, it just comes off, it comes off. But that's okay.

6:37

Tommy: Do you think there's anything that could happen?

6:39

Harry: So then how do you shower without it coming off, or is it just chlorine?

6:42

Gemma: It's just chlorine, or like The salt water's like a little bit abrasive.

6:48

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, is there any revolutions that could happen in regards to spray tans that it will change the game, do you think?

6:54

Gemma: Spray tans or self-tans or both?

6:57

Tommy: Okay, sure, self-tan. What, can we get a self-tan in a spray? I guess you can.

7:01

Gemma: Yeah, well, it's just a slightly different formula because when you get a spray tan, it's like a concentrate.

7:07

Josh: Or you can buy a full machine and turn your garage— my brother used to be in there just doing his wife.

7:14

Gemma: Really?

7:14

Josh: Spraying his wife, and then he started getting into it, so he'd be tan.

7:18

Gemma: So I can do my whole back myself.

7:21

Josh: Do you get Chris?

7:23

Gemma: No, well, no, I— because he's just— he's of no use to me because I can reach my whole back.

7:29

Josh: So I'm like, tradie hands when you want to—

7:31

Gemma: well, the boys are usually really good at it because you just say like pretend you're waxing a car and then they get it.

7:36

Josh: I actually enjoy it because I I start— actually, my wife will probably counter that because I don't do it that much, but I enjoy anything where I'm like—

7:43

Gemma: You've just— exactly what you've just done is what you shouldn't be doing.

7:46

Josh: Well, I'm just— I'm, I'm, I'm saying is like shaving. Like, I don't mind shaving my brother's back because it's like, it's mow— have you ever mowed in your life?

7:57

Tommy: So you're just trying to cover the fact that you shave Amy's back.

8:00

Josh: So I like mowing. If you mow it, you go up and you just really— it's really cathartic seeing the patches where you don't— like, you know, different levels.

8:09

Mason: It's like power washing, power washing the floor, like water blasting.

8:14

Gemma: I've watched videos going right over my head.

8:16

Josh: So think about like a dirty floor with a power hose. There's videos on YouTube that are like—

8:22

Gemma: I just have never done nothing domestic.

8:27

Josh: So you live at home, are you— what's the chore duty like? Like I haven't actually asked Mr. 97 about his chore duty.

8:35

Gemma: Well, my dad's retired, so he does all sorts of stuff. We take it in turns to cook. Okay, I'm a really good cook.

8:42

Tommy: Um, I don't know, she's not joking. No, I'm not joking. You're good.

8:46

Gemma: No, I really am. Um, I mean, Dad does most of it.

8:49

Josh: So it's all on Dad?

8:51

Gemma: Pretty much.

8:51

Harry: I don't do chores because we've all got disgusting chores like getting wood and all that stuff. So I just—

8:57

Gemma: yeah, I like to like rearrange my lipsticks today, and he's like, yeah, getting the wood.

9:03

Harry: I don't do that. Ella does that now because I just pretend I'm too busy.

9:07

Josh: What? So you don't do any chores?

9:08

Harry: No, I clean the fish tank.

9:10

Josh: But that's yours.

9:11

Harry: That's mine.

9:11

Josh: So that's a personal chore.

9:13

Tommy: Yeah, we should all do more chores. I've definitely upped my game in regards to cleaning because we discuss— oh, sorry, washing specifically, like clothes.

9:21

Gemma: Oh, I do all the clothes washing.

9:23

Tommy: That's fun. Yeah, I think that's good. But toilets, I think, is one of like— yeah, do it like keeping toilets clean. Uh, you know, it's a different—

9:33

Josh: Harry, when was the last time you cleaned the toilet?

9:34

Harry: I've never cleaned it.

9:36

Josh: Really?

9:36

Harry: Never?

9:37

Gemma: See, if my parents are away, which is like all the time, I—

9:40

Harry: it all—

9:40

Tommy: you have to—

9:40

Gemma: it's me. Yeah, that's fine.

9:42

Josh: Seb, what's your list look like?

9:46

Mason: Um, dishwasher. I mean, it just depends on what happens, but yeah, usually like emptying or loading the dishwasher, um, helping with the dishes before you put them in. You can be loose.

9:58

Tommy: Just what about— you eat a lot of avocado.

9:59

Mason: No, you can just throw it in.

10:00

Tommy: Yeah, but don't you find that then the first food is like caked on.

10:04

Mason: Yeah, no, like it's in the dishwasher. Yeah, yeah, but someone else cleans it.

10:10

Josh: That's someone else's problem. That's a Gronkh move, right?

10:13

Tommy: Exactly.

10:13

Mason: Um, yeah, and then it's just helping out with dinner, helping out in the garden if we're cleaning up, taking the bins out.

10:19

Tommy: You are very—

10:19

Gemma: man, how are you single?

10:22

Tommy: Yeah, that's a good question.

10:24

Josh: What's the thought on moving into a new place? Like, if you were, Harry, next year you're going to be riding solo.

10:32

Tommy: Can you talk about how much it costs?

10:35

Harry: 500 a week.

10:36

Tommy: That's how much it costs for student accommodation. That's what he's paying.

10:39

Josh: You get food though, don't you?

10:40

Tommy: No.

10:41

Josh: Oh, no food?

10:42

Harry: No, but power, water, and unlimited internet.

10:45

Josh: But 500?

10:45

Tommy: I was like, mate, you can stay at our place for 300.

10:49

Josh: Yeah, 500.

10:50

Tommy: I think 500 is a lot when you think about what the cost of For one bedroom, for like a, just for a studio, studio apartment that comes, I guess, with fridges and stuff, like a fridge.

11:03

Josh: Well, if you were to get a one bedder around here, it'd be $400.

11:06

Harry: I was hitting with my foot.

11:08

Tommy: What were you?

11:09

Harry: I don't know.

11:09

Gemma: But unlimited internet, so just use $500 worth of internet anyway. That was me at Government House last night. I was like, can I drink my taxes worth of champagne?

11:19

Tommy: What was it? What were you at?

11:20

Gemma: It was the launch of Fashion Week.

11:22

Harry: Is that Joe Hall? The newsreader was there, I saw.

11:24

Gemma: Yes, I know. One of my girlfriends dates her son. It's whatever, I just know everyone.

11:29

Tommy: That's good.

11:30

Josh: How does Harry know Joe Hall was there? What's—

11:33

Harry: she's like an Instagram newsreader.

11:34

Josh: Yeah, but do you follow her?

11:36

Gemma: Yeah, she's amazing.

11:37

Josh: What kind of content she's wearing?

11:38

Harry: I can't remember, like a jumpsuity sort of thing.

11:41

Gemma: I don't know, I didn't say.

11:43

Josh: Harry's fashion segment.

11:45

Tommy: Are you into the fashion?

11:46

Harry: Not really, no. Okay, we went to Maya yesterday and I was like, oh, I'll look good in that. Oh, I'll look good at that.

11:53

Josh: I had a moment on the weekend. I went to Shoppo.

11:56

Harry: Yes.

11:56

Josh: I was actually thinking—

11:57

Gemma: It's actually so annoying when you go to Shoppo and don't tell me.

12:00

Josh: I was thinking, I wonder if Gemma's here. They could possibly be here.

12:03

Gemma: Usually I am.

12:04

Josh: But I usually like to—

12:05

Tommy: But usually you're in Shoppo. Do you hang out?

12:07

Harry: All the time.

12:07

Gemma: That's where I used to work.

12:11

Harry: All over it.

12:12

Gemma: Oh yeah, because I park up near David Jones and then you have to walk to everywhere. So where's she going to be next time?

12:18

Tommy: I'd be at JB.

12:20

Josh: Oh yeah, yeah. But I saw, um, I was in a shoe shop and I was like, fuck, at this moment that I've realised that I love shoes, I just got no money to buy them.

12:30

Gemma: Yeah, it's a nice—

12:31

Josh: but I was like, if I had lots of money, I was thinking, what's the one thing I'd probably have? 70, 80 pairs of shoes, I reckon.

12:37

Harry: I've only ever had one, like, I've only ever owned school shoes. That's it. But now I've only— I own 3 pair. Yeah, so I'm going up in the world.

12:46

Gemma: Mine don't all fit in my wardrobe. I did a wardrobe clean out and they still It's a lot. Tony Bianco is one of my clients.

12:55

Tommy: So what's your premium shoe? What's the difference between a premium and a cheap shoe, do you think? Could you tell?

13:00

Harry: Quality.

13:00

Tommy: But could you tell, like, if you're— I could say, for instance, you could say ASICS are the most premium shoe based on the quality, like the comfort.

13:07

Gemma: You're talking about premium running shoes?

13:10

Tommy: Yeah, but I mean, so my runners are nice. Let's have a look at them. You're wearing sportswear today. Oh, they are nice.

13:15

Harry: New Balance?

13:15

Josh: Are they Adidas?

13:16

Tommy: Are they Adidas?

13:17

Josh: I think they're okay. Look at us.

13:19

Gemma: Yeah, they added us.

13:20

Tommy: You've got the—

13:21

Gemma: Christine Santana has got them. She wants to be the fashion director at Vogue. Now she's responsible for all of—

13:26

Tommy: Do you put them in the wash?

13:27

Gemma: No, no, I'm just very clean.

13:29

Josh: I put mine in the wash yesterday.

13:30

Gemma: My jumper also says Gem. This is like—

13:32

Tommy: Where did it— Embroidered? A custom job?

13:34

Gemma: Of course.

13:35

Josh: Where?

13:36

Gemma: Uh, it's called Double Trouble. I have a t-shirt the same.

13:38

Tommy: Double Trouble, and you just load up your name?

13:41

Gemma: You just—

13:42

Tommy: Yeah, and they put it on different things.

13:43

Harry: I wonder if that's like after Shakespeare. If they thought of that. Like, double toil and trouble.

13:49

Gemma: Thespians, am I right?

13:52

Josh: You should have said his hand shaking like a theatre.

13:56

Tommy: Everyone's been doing the Spotify year of—

13:58

Mason: year review.

13:59

Josh: So good. I mean, I don't listen to podcasts through Spotify.

14:03

Mason: Neither.

14:03

Gemma: But it's nice getting tagged in things.

14:05

Josh: Hey, well, it turns out a lot of people do listen through, and it's amazing that it's calculating The listen time.

14:12

Gemma: The background is my favourite photo.

14:14

Josh: It's the best.

14:15

Gemma: I've showed it to everyone I know and they're like, we don't know these people.

14:18

Josh: But I was, I saw it on our Insta storeys and such. So we've turned them, the minutes listened into Gronkh points.

14:27

Tommy: Well, I did.

14:28

Josh: That's great. But the thing is, it's perfect.

14:30

Tommy: But I think that it's across all their listening potentially. So at first I was like, are they spending that amount of time on just us?

14:38

Josh: 2019. No, it's 2019.

14:40

Tommy: So across all their podcasts.

14:42

Harry: So they can listen to podcasts. They could have only listened to us, but go to the talk show once.

14:47

Tommy: But their favorite. But the reason why we're getting tagged is we're their number one show that they listen to. Yeah, that's good enough for us. That's so funny. I thought, yeah, I was the same thing.

14:57

Josh: I was like, Amy, this is ridiculous.

14:59

Tommy: 17,000 hours listening to our show. 17,000 minutes.

15:02

Josh: Hours would be crazy. Yeah. So Ella's has listened, which now we've worked out is just podcast listens.

15:09

Tommy: I think that, I think Ella might be an example of someone who's— Are you looking at the cup?

15:12

Gemma: Yeah, I was just saying what it said.

15:14

Josh: It's a Stolen Fami collab.

15:19

Tommy: No, but Ella's one, I think, could be one that is just our time because she said it was 250 or something hours.

15:26

Josh: 13,000 minutes.

15:29

Tommy: Okay.

15:29

Josh: And so, I did the math and it worked out to be over 300 episodes if we average them out at 40 minutes. But if it's not specific to our podcast, I'll tell you what, your brother, fucking what a solid effort.

15:41

Tommy: But what I'm more interested in, I mean, it's great everyone listening to us, but the top music plays.

15:48

Gemma: You see, I don't use Spotify.

15:49

Tommy: What do you use? Apple Music?

15:51

Josh: Yeah.

15:51

Tommy: Why do you use Apple Music again?

15:52

Gemma: I don't know. I think they gave it to you for free for 6 months with Telstra, and then I'm just like a creature of habit.

15:58

Harry: Apple Music. Yeah, that was Apple Music.

16:00

Gemma: Yeah.

16:00

Josh: The one thing about it, I've got Spotify, but I don't.

16:02

Tommy: I got it with a Telstra plan.

16:04

Josh: Early days. Yeah, a year. It was a year. It was a prime one. But you could ask Siri and it would play any song you want. So it was, I mean, Spotify probably is doing that now.

16:13

Gemma: I don't use Siri. I've always got her turned off. I don't trust her.

16:16

Tommy: You actually turn her off completely?

16:17

Gemma: Yeah.

16:18

Tommy: I would even, today Harry messaged me and he was walking and it was sent with Siri.

16:24

Harry: Yeah, I often say, does it actually say that?

16:26

Tommy: It says sent with Siri now at the bottom.

16:28

Harry: Good, because it's often so wrong.

16:30

Gemma: You're sharing locations, you fucking bitch.

16:33

Josh: Are you sharing with Harry?

16:34

Tommy: Harry did share with me.

16:34

Mason: Yes.

16:36

Josh: Oh no, just for one moment.

16:39

Mason: Yeah.

16:39

Josh: Not all time. No.

16:41

Gemma: When we're at the footy and I tried to share my location and it just, I don't have any location, anything switched on.

16:48

Josh: Is that a, why are you doing that?

16:49

Gemma: I don't know. I just don't know how to like use my phone.

16:51

Tommy: Privacy, I guess, as well.

16:54

Gemma: Yeah. I've had enough stalkers.

16:55

Harry: Yeah.

16:56

Tommy: Cause you could just have it on all the time, but I know I get the sensitivity around it.

17:00

Gemma: I just can't be, I just can't be bothered like changing settings.

17:03

Tommy: I get it.

17:04

Gemma: I'm so lazy.

17:05

Tommy: Well, it's good. Like, The iOS has done a bunch of work, so it's actually becoming more annoying like Android where it will ask a bunch for permission for apps.

17:14

Harry: I like that.

17:15

Tommy: I mean, it gives you more control. But interestingly, did you see the number one artist for me?

17:22

Josh: No, I didn't. Missy Higgins.

17:25

Tommy: Missy Higgins. 788 minutes streamed. Top streamed song, Scar.

17:31

Josh: Wow.

17:31

Tommy: Isn't that impressive? Like, because I don't know if I listened to it that much, but clearly I've listened at least 200 times.

17:39

Gemma: What's your favourite thing about Missy Higgins?

17:42

Tommy: Um, I just like her vocals.

17:45

Gemma: It was sort of a joke question.

17:48

Tommy: I really do. I loved that film clip too where she sort of—

17:51

Gemma: how good was Video Hits though?

17:53

Tommy: The piano. I had, um, Foxtel, so it was very much Channel V.

17:57

Gemma: Someone's doing all right.

17:58

Tommy: Do you remember Band in the Bubble? Your credit card. Band in the bubble?

18:02

Gemma: Nope.

18:02

Josh: Okay, that was actually in a— but were they sick in the inner bubble?

18:05

Tommy: No, so it was Regurgitator. It was a band and they were fed square and there was a 24-hour V— you would have loved this— it was a 24-hour channel and you could watch them live and they lived like Big Brother. Yeah, uh, clear room.

18:20

Josh: Jesus, that's pretty full-on. No privacy. What, um, what's that documentary about those Guys that filmed every part of their life.

18:29

Tommy: It was— was it called, uh, was that the one? Josh 2?

18:33

Harry: Yeah.

18:34

Josh: And it all went to shit.

18:36

Tommy: Yeah, it did. It was in the early— it was in the early 2000s and it was— the guy's name was Josh. I can't remember. It was like Josh 2.0 or something. But basically he, um, yeah, his, uh, partner, like, is that your stomach?

18:51

Josh: Yeah.

18:51

Tommy: I'm always worried that people can hear. Have you ever heard my stomach when we've had a guest on? It's pretty unusual because we have that noise gate where the, the vocals like open up the microphone and then close it. And I'm worried that I rumble so loud that it'll actually enter into the microphone.

19:08

Harry: But anyway, the polar pattern of the mic wouldn't go down that far. I wouldn't worry.

19:12

Tommy: The what? The polar pattern.

19:13

Harry: Mm. Yes. It'll only be the top.

19:15

Tommy: So I wouldn't—

19:15

Josh: the polar pattern.

19:16

Tommy: No, but anyway, his marriage or whatever broke down because he was just filming absolutely everything. Oh yeah. Any word on it?

19:22

Mason: No, I couldn't find him.

19:23

Josh: Well, Are you kidding me?

19:26

Tommy: Online, you've got fucking Google. Type in Josh, New York City, uh, web camera, 2000s. Jason Calacanis was in it, who, who is a tech reporter.

19:37

Mason: I got him.

19:38

Tommy: What was it called?

19:39

Mason: We Live in Public.

19:40

Tommy: We Live in Public.

19:41

Mason: Josh Harris.

19:41

Tommy: Josh Harris. Thank you.

19:42

Gemma: God, it's nice being here not in full glam.

19:45

Tommy: I'm really relaxed. It is very chill.

19:47

Josh: You don't have to be full glam all the time. I mean, you are most of No, I'm really not.

19:52

Gemma: This is me like day to day.

19:53

Tommy: I appreciate it.

19:55

Josh: It's pottering.

19:56

Gemma: Yeah.

19:57

Harry: Yeah. With that Christmas Carol thing you're doing, was that last night?

20:00

Tommy: No, that's on the 14th of December.

20:03

Harry: Emmylou was doing one last night and I thought, oh, she's amazing. Oh, I love her. Isn't she great? I said to her, you probably don't get too many 18-year-olds DMing you very often. She said no.

20:16

Tommy: Yeah, you're very good at sliding in.

20:18

Mason: Yeah.

20:18

Josh: Have you slid into Gemma's DMs?

20:19

Gemma: No, I don't even think I follow you.

20:22

Harry: Do I?

20:23

Gemma: I think you do.

20:27

Josh: Wow.

20:28

Gemma: I'm sorry, I think someone's calling me.

20:31

Harry: I went through and I did a bit of a detox and just scrapped heaps of people, like old friends. Here we go. Do I? Yeah, yeah, I do. Oh, uh, big sigh of relief.

20:42

Josh: Did you, um, see what eventuated with the Stacey June unfollow debacle?

20:47

Gemma: Yes, I did.

20:48

Josh: Yeah, what's your thoughts on that?

20:49

Gemma: Anything?

20:49

Tommy: It was a good outcome.

20:50

Josh: It's a great outcome. Yeah.

20:52

Gemma: I mean, I don't have a lot of thoughts other than what's been covered.

20:54

Tommy: Yeah.

20:56

Mason: Do you—

20:56

Tommy: are you— I feel like you don't overthink. Like on the spectrum of me versus Tommy, where do you fit in the thinking spectrum?

21:06

Gemma: I think closer to Tommy.

21:07

Tommy: Yeah, closer to Tommy. Less thinking about it.

21:10

Gemma: I don't have a lot of thoughts ever.

21:14

Josh: Does Chris steal anything of yours? So I've stolen this cup of Amy's.

21:18

Gemma: No, but everything I own is very like my KeepCups. My KeepCup is that Vogue one. And it says, my water bottle is pink. Everything. There's nothing to steal.

21:31

Josh: I think I've hit a real nerve with Amy. She's got this one thing that she's getting really pissed off about and it's—

21:37

Tommy: Fix it.

21:37

Josh: It's in our car.

21:38

Gemma: She's better than you.

21:39

Mason: Yeah.

21:39

Josh: Yeah. No, in our car, we— she likes to buy. I never buy. She buys the extra bubblegum flavoured chewing gum in the sort of little bottles and it's always in the car and I jump in, I'm like, oh yes. I just—

21:53

Tommy: 6 at a time.

21:54

Harry: 2.

21:55

Josh: I usually go 2.

21:56

Gemma: 2, yeah.

21:56

Tommy: Because like bubblegum, so like it's yummy. It's a real treat.

22:00

Josh: Sugar-free. It does, doesn't it? And so usually it's like I get sick and tired of chewing an unflavored chewing gum after an hour or something. So I take it out and I get one more. So maybe there's like, and I usually go one at that point, not a double again. So maybe 3 per trip. And I'm driving 2 times a day at least.

22:18

Tommy: So you're having at least half a dozen.

22:21

Josh: She has— you should see her face when she opens it and sees. And today she looked and she fucking put it straight into her purse. So she's confiscated them. She's so pissed off. But I've got an idea. How about we contact— no, no, no. I thought a great video. Contact Extra, get them to supply us with like a garbage bag size full of the chewing gum. We had that and we filled the whole entire car. So like all of the bits, like, they're like a ball pit.

22:52

Gemma: So yeah, it's definitely not going to annoy her.

22:55

Josh: She can't complain because they'll be everywhere.

22:57

Gemma: So she wants to chew, she definitely can't complain.

22:59

Josh: There's some there, there's some there, there's some there. I'm going to get onto them. Actually, Harry maybe can help me with this.

23:04

Tommy: I think it's Wrigley's, isn't it?

23:06

Josh: Yeah, extra.

23:06

Tommy: And Wrigley's is where Chris Nicholls works at Mars.. And so that's why I had like 100 extra chewy, but we went through all of it.

23:16

Josh: When it's there, you go through it.

23:19

Gemma: Now, chewing gum isn't a laxative, is it? No, it is. Oh, it is.

23:23

Josh: I mean, do we know anyone that's personally shat themselves from it?

23:26

Gemma: If you eat a whole packet.

23:28

Harry: Not from chewing gum.

23:29

Tommy: We were chewing a lot.

23:31

Josh: There was a time. They were the mints, weren't they? Yeah. Well, if you eat a whole packet, it says on there. Like it can cause a laxative effect.

23:40

Gemma: Okay.

23:40

Josh: So it's like, it depends.

23:42

Tommy: I appreciated that we had so much cut-through with the mints. We had the green mints and index cards. And so we drove all the way to Barefoot Investor's farm to do some, like a workshop day. And we get there and he's got green mints and index cards. He's literally gone and got the exact same shit.

24:02

Josh: That's so nice.

24:03

Tommy: It's very impressive. We are, uh, we're doing Christmas, Gem. Yes, at Mr. 97's.

24:09

Gemma: Can't wait. I can't wait to see Mr. 97's room.

24:12

Josh: Oh yeah, have you decided on his room?

24:15

Tommy: Yeah, we, I mean, yeah, we could, because you're planning the lounge room.

24:19

Mason: Yeah, well, that means I have to move the Christmas tree and everything downstairs.

24:22

Gemma: Are you semi-nervous to let me know your exact address? Because you know I'm just going to turn up all the time now.

24:27

Tommy: No, I'm happy. You can have my full address.

24:30

Gemma: But I just have been walking around the streets of Ballwyn, like knocking on each door.

24:36

Tommy: It was so impressive.

24:37

Gemma: Any day now.

24:38

Tommy: Bri went past your place. Well, I actually, I was with her. I was in the car.

24:43

Mason: And this is when she dropped off the Hey Tiger.

24:45

Tommy: No. So this was New Day. Bri was picking up a bunch of New Day box stuff like you were donating all of this stuff. Those huge boxes of it.

24:51

Gemma: I'm a really good person.

24:53

Tommy: And so there was heaps of like New Day boxes.

24:55

Gemma: It's amazing.

24:56

Tommy: Giving products to women who are in sort of like domestic violence situations or where they have to get out and they go into forgot the term. What do they—

25:03

Harry: would you take to Bunnings?

25:04

Tommy: It's like, nah, Bunnings are now doing their version or whatever. But, um, yeah, so you fill up a box or whatever, accommodation. Exactly. Yeah, a crisis accommodation.

25:14

Gemma: Crisis accommodation. Yeah.

25:15

Tommy: And so, um, uh, you get a bunch of products and things like that. And so Bri was going to the New Day box packing party, and so Gem kindly gave all this stuff. So when we're picking it up I'm very much like, I don't necessarily, I'm not the kind of person to really go like, I'm excited to meet Jill and all that sort of thing. But you know what I'm like.

25:36

Gemma: Bruce is going to be devastated.

25:37

Tommy: Bruce is also great.

25:39

Gemma: Love Bruce. She was doing a face mask when I left this morning, getting ready for the ball.

25:45

Tommy: And so no, but Bri did go in. But what I noticed was you talk a bit about the fact that your house can be a little bit like a post office with the amount that the couriers come. When we were there, there was like, like a DHL truck out the front. It was on like a Sunday.

26:03

Gemma: It was a Sunday.

26:04

Tommy: Yeah. You're just getting shit, shit delivered.

26:06

Gemma: Oh, that's right, because I was at a baby shower.

26:07

Tommy: Do things—

26:08

Gemma: I'm an adult.

26:09

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, just does it really start to up over Christmas?

26:13

Gemma: The amount of deliveries? Yeah, because I've been doing gift guide.

26:15

Tommy: So what does that mean? So you've been brands.

26:17

Gemma: So I've, I do a like a guide to the best like beauty Christmas presents. And this year I was like, I might make it a little bit smaller. No, it's 100 products.

26:27

Tommy: What? And so that's over 52 weeks, like as in like—

26:32

Gemma: No, it's all limited edition, like specific holiday products. So every beauty brand will do like a holiday collection of limited edition stuff or they'll do like Christmas sets.

26:43

Josh: Yeah.

26:43

Gemma: So then I pick the best ones.

26:45

Tommy: And so when did they send you them to test?

26:48

Gemma: I start—

26:49

Tommy: You're right, Harry, you just hit yourself.

26:50

Harry: Yeah, I just scraped my chin on the mic.

26:52

Gemma: I start planning gift guide at the beginning of October.

26:57

Tommy: And so the brands just know now, like, do you have to send out any sort of—

27:01

Gemma: I still reach out to everyone because I just, I guess, like, it sounds really ungrateful, I get sent stuff all the time, obviously, which is a beautiful thing, but I don't physically have, like, I have one face, I don't have the time to review every single product. So gift guide, I just reach out to brands where I already know that I like the products or if there's something that's like particularly interesting for holidays.

27:24

Tommy: So would you go to— when do you go to Mecca? Is Mecca doing any facilitation or is it all in the— do they have their own brands?

27:32

Gemma: Mecca have two signature lines. So they've got the stores are Mecca Cosmetica and Mecca Maxima, and then they've got two in-house brands that are Mecca Max and Mecca Cosmetica.

27:42

Tommy: And what sort of stuff, what products are they doing?

27:44

Gemma: Mecca Cosmetica has a real like skin focus and Mecca Max has like a colour focus.

27:49

Tommy: Sure. And so do you go through to PR companies that then work directly with all the individual brands, or do you go direct to brands?

27:57

Gemma: Do you go to— Depends who does their PR. So Mecca, I— they obviously have a lot of different brands. So any brands that are stocked at Mecca, I've just done that through them. And then other brands, like, I've got a full spreadsheet of who looks after what.

28:09

Josh: You trying to work out how to get free shit?

28:11

Harry: That's it.

28:11

Josh: No, I just thought that you're here.

28:12

Tommy: This is so interesting. Yeah, yeah. No, I think it's interesting getting a sense of, like, how do you start putting these these things together because so day-to-day copywriting and all that sort of thing.

28:24

Josh: Are you on LinkedIn?

28:25

Gemma: Yeah, but I don't really use it because there's just too many like dudes trying to talk to me.

28:31

Tommy: Like dating, sort of treating LinkedIn like a dating site.

28:35

Gemma: Yeah. Mm.

28:36

Tommy: I mean, it's so hard to— Yeah.

28:39

Josh: What creeps are on LinkedIn?

28:40

Gemma: There's all creeps are everywhere.

28:42

Josh: Yeah, that is true. But what creeps are seeing it as a dating platform?

28:46

Gemma: A large number.

28:47

Josh: What, executives?

28:48

Gemma: Just, yeah, just like people trying to add me that are in no way connected to the field that I work in and being like, I would love to connect.

28:57

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:59

Gemma: I bet you would.

29:01

Tommy: John from constructions, he might need a nice moisturiser recommendation.

29:07

Gemma: Well, then go on my website.

29:09

Josh: So do you see, do you not see them as opportunities for potential? Like, I mean, John, who's a a tradie that looks after 4 fleets.

29:17

Gemma: I've got a pretty good gauge of like where the opportunity can come from and where, you know.

29:23

Tommy: What are you looking at, Harry?

29:24

Gemma: You're on Instagram.

29:25

Harry: I'm trying to find—

29:26

Josh: Harry's on his Instagram.

29:28

Harry: I found it.

29:28

Tommy: You bored, mate?

29:28

Harry: I was going to say, I've got, I've gone, like, I've gone, like, I've got 350 profile visits in the last 7 days.

29:38

Josh: What was it normally?

29:39

Harry: Like 9.

29:40

Gemma: Daily talk show pull, baby.

29:42

Tommy: Yeah, this is big.

29:42

Harry: And I was Oh, no, no followers. Only 3 followers.

29:48

Tommy: It's very hard. I'm fine.

29:49

Gemma: But when was the last time you posted?

29:51

Harry: Well, we had Michael Bungay-Stinney on the show.

29:55

Gemma: So close. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Closer than—

29:59

Harry: And now I've said I've got to post once a week, so I'm feeling all this stress to post.

30:06

Gemma: Nah, don't. Nah, you just got to feel no stress with Instagram. Post when you want to post.

30:11

Harry: I posted this. Head over to Harry Lo. The Harry Lodge. So I posted this photo of this lady holding the Melbourne Cup, and so that's my first photo in over, over 17 months.

30:24

Tommy: Who's your audience?

30:25

Gemma: So that's why people haven't hit follow because they don't know what content they're going to be getting.

30:30

Josh: I know. And so how often are you posting?

30:32

Gemma: It depends on— I think Wednesday I posted 3 photos, but then I'll go like a week without posting anything.

30:38

Josh: And what about follower count? Because people say it's like impossible to create an Instagram following.

30:43

Harry: I don't think it matters.

30:43

Gemma: I think I just, I don't know how to articulate it, but I just think clout is more important than your following and the two aren't necessarily linked.

30:56

Josh: How do you gauge your clout?

31:00

Gemma: How many gigs they keep putting you in charge of. What are you getting invited to?

31:05

Tommy: Do you reckon there's a tipping point? I feel like maybe at the start of the year you were at 18,000 or something. 16,000.

31:11

Gemma: No idea.

31:12

Tommy: I think you're at 23,000.

31:14

Josh: The accounts like, um, who have done it in the hard times— Struthless, our homie who's coming on the show, uh, Campbell, he, he's got like a, a beautiful niche which is, you know, appealing to so many people.

31:27

Tommy: He's in the meme game. He does very funny illustrations and shit, so he's like super creative.

31:32

Josh: And so you see how these profiles just boom.

31:36

Tommy: Yeah, so you would know he's aesthetic, right? He does like illustration type of stuff.

31:40

Josh: So it's so cool.

31:41

Tommy: And so I guess creating maybe not a theme, but yeah, what do people expect when they go onto your Instagram?

31:48

Josh: But then you go, okay, 350,000. I don't know the other side of that, what he does, the business, like he sells products and stuff. As much as I know what you do, Gemma, but you could say you're 20,000 specific to beauty, very targeted. Yes. And you can see how you can use that powerful following, maybe, you know, smaller. But it's like in business, right? You can look like you got this huge profile, but the business does nothing.

32:14

Gemma: Yeah.

32:14

Josh: Or you can have a smaller thing and the business is highly profitable. It's like, which one do you want? I guess.

32:20

Tommy: Yeah.

32:20

Josh: What do you, what's your emphasis on followers these days?

32:23

Harry: I just got one then. Russ Keys.

32:25

Gemma: Hey, that's a good one too.

32:29

Tommy: That's high qual, high qual phone.

32:31

Harry: Yeah.

32:32

Gemma: That's what I'll get on my next one of these.

32:36

Josh: And so what is it for you? Like, what are you looking to do?

32:40

Gemma: A sell product.

32:41

Tommy: Yeah.

32:41

Gemma: That's, yeah. So if a brand tells me, oh, we sold X number of these after you posted about it, I'm like, well, job done. If they keep booking me to MC things.

32:50

Harry: Is dropshipping something to get into, or do you think the dropshipping train is nearly done?

32:55

Tommy: I mean, so for people who don't know, dropshipping is the idea that you set up like a—

33:00

Harry: so you're like, you're like the middleman, and I take the sales and then I send them to the factory and they send— the factory sends the product. Out to the customer.

33:10

Tommy: I think it's hard, it's a lot harder because— but if you— I think it's all in the branding potentially. Like if you can create a brand around something, a good example is like look at Five Minute Journal with Alex and Mimi. They've created a niche where it's like, it's essentially like a notebook and then they check— what did you say, how much did you say they were? $97, like $30 or something? I think so. And so like to manufacture, to make them, it's probably costing them, I don't know, What do you think? $5?

33:37

Josh: How much is it selling for?

33:38

Tommy: $35?

33:38

Mason: $22 USD.

33:40

Josh: $22? So, $3? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

33:43

Tommy: And so that's like an interesting example, but I think so much of it is in the brand that you're buying into as well.

33:49

Josh: And dropshipping was sold as the dream. Tim Ferriss was talking about it in The 4-Hour Workweek over 10 years ago.

33:54

Tommy: People do it with dresses. That's apparently a bit like people dropshipping like fashion and stuff like that.

33:59

Josh: I love, yeah, I mean, I love these unique businesses. The wedding I was at last week.

34:04

Gemma: Man, Amy looked so good.

34:06

Josh: She did.

34:06

Tommy: She, I mean, wife, wife.

34:08

Gemma: Yeah.

34:10

Josh: Is that what you want me to think? I'm going to get a t-shirt. Wife, wife.

34:12

Tommy: Wife, wife.

34:13

Gemma: Yeah, I'm going to get one of these.

34:14

Harry: Yeah, it looked good.

34:16

Josh: She, she got a lot of compliments on that dress.

34:19

Gemma: Yeah, she looks so good.

34:20

Tommy: Was that a dropship dress?

34:21

Josh: She actually got it for our wedding.

34:24

Tommy: It's like a secondary, like she had a couple going on.

34:27

Josh: Yeah, it was a secondary one. The party time dress. It was definitely a party time dress.

34:30

Gemma: My dress is a plan.

34:31

Josh: I was sitting next to a guy that I went to primary school with. So I love, like, I hadn't seen my mate in ages, James, but we were in primary school, you know, from prep onwards we were at the same primary school. And he had, he's a jeweller now, has like a shop front and makes like engagement rings.

34:52

Gemma: Sick.

34:52

Josh: Like he does amazing shit.

34:54

Gemma: Like I've only got 5 on today.

34:56

Josh: Conspiracy Jimmies. Engagement ring, like some high-end stuff. But he was telling me, I asked about his dad because his dad used to be an old bodybuilder that was quite famous, you know, pioneered bodybuilding in Australia. And I said, I heard about your dad's business. What he does is gets old Versace, Dolce Gabbana, like all these high-end suits.

35:17

Gemma: My language.

35:18

Tommy: Yeah.

35:18

Josh: From like he's been able to find a supplier that gets them from like thrift shops or whatever where they, you know, think about like Beverly Hills, all the people that would donate their old suits that were worth $15K at one point.

35:32

Harry: Because you only wear them once.

35:33

Josh: Oh yeah, the rich people don't give a shit. And now he brings them in, so he gets a whole bunch of them and sells them for like $700, $800. And these are $15K suits.

35:45

Tommy: I was thinking of another idea.

35:46

Gemma: Vintage.

35:46

Tommy: What about the idea of using that fabric to create something else? Imagine like a—

35:52

Gemma: like, then it's value But what is the brand?

35:56

Mason: Well, you just got Gucci cotton.

35:58

Gemma: How dare you think that you can make a better outfit?

36:03

Tommy: What about like Louis Vuitton, right? Like, you know, the pattern.

36:07

Josh: Yeah.

36:07

Tommy: Imagine if I created a hoodie that was made all out of their fabrics. Patchwork hoodie. Louis Vuitton.

36:14

Gemma: Patchwork's ugly.

36:16

Tommy: Potentially.

36:16

Josh: I get what you mean. There's no blocking.

36:18

Tommy: Blocking is in, isn't it? Isn't blocking— it's blocking. Block colors?

36:22

Gemma: Yeah, colour blocking. That's like patchwork. What are you wearing to NGV? Have you sorted that out?

36:27

Tommy: Yeah, you're seeing it.

36:29

Gemma: Oh, okay.

36:29

Harry: Steve Jobs.

36:30

Tommy: Yeah.

36:30

Josh: So, no, no, no.

36:31

Gemma: Did you choose?

36:32

Tommy: I brought you like— I've brought the white shoes or whatever.

36:35

Josh: Uh, Jules Lum was telling me yesterday that there's a business that takes your kids' paintings. So like when you put them in the bin, you get a lot of them from daycare. They're just always handing you like, here's another one, but he's like, look at It is, Daddy.

36:50

Tommy: Yeah, yeah. I'm going to give that to the man.

36:53

Josh: They use— you can, you can take a whole bunch and they turn it into a teddy bear. Oh yeah, that's nice. Can you look it up? Say teddy bear, um, kids' paintings into teddy bears. I don't know if it's the stuffing of it or it's the, uh, they crumble them up. Harry said, is it the stuffing? I don't know if it's the stuffing, but it makes sense.

37:15

Harry: It's— yeah, but it wouldn't be a very strong teddy bear if the outside of it was made by paper.

37:20

Gemma: Yeah, but they, I mean, I've still got my Annie rabbit from when I was born. That was my teddy bear, but it's a bunny.

37:25

Tommy: Has it got writing on it? Is that one?

37:27

Harry: I've got a mouse. Monty.

37:29

Gemma: Monty.

37:30

Josh: It's not real.

37:31

Tommy: What's the rabbit thing you're talking about? I think I've seen these.

37:35

Gemma: Oh no, it wasn't one that you bought. It was one of my, I think my great aunt in the UK sent it over.

37:42

Josh: She made it?

37:43

Gemma: Yeah.

37:43

Harry: Oh, that's cute.

37:45

Gemma: Annie. All of the fluff came off pretty quickly, but I still have her.

37:48

Josh: I've still got mine. Childhood teddy bear. Bodhi now has it.

37:51

Tommy: Is that the blue one?

37:53

Josh: Nah, nah, nah, that's upstairs here. That's his too.

37:55

Tommy: It's a beanie bear.

37:57

Josh: Yeah, it's a beanie bear.

37:58

Gemma: And he got to come back into my bed after Charlie passed away because I needed something to cuddle.

38:02

Tommy: Oh, that's still there. How's your tat going?

38:04

Gemma: Yeah, good, fully healed.

38:06

Tommy: Oh great.

38:07

Gemma: I'm not wearing a bra.

38:09

Josh: Okay, it's a bit revealing. Did you find the bed?

38:13

Mason: I couldn't find anything.

38:15

Josh: I mean, I don't trust you after not being able to find what Josh asked earlier.

38:17

Tommy: Has it been? I mean, yeah, that was very easy. How are you finding How are you finding the fake tanning over the tattoo?

38:23

Gemma: I haven't done it yet. I think it's too soon.

38:26

Josh: Well, you're just leaving it.

38:26

Gemma: So you've just got a white rectangle. Yeah.

38:28

Tommy: Okay. I guess you're not wearing dresses that are showing that at the moment, so you should be fine.

38:32

Gemma: Not at the moment. Although, oh, what's tonight's? No, it should be okay.

38:36

Josh: Have you been putting cream on it?

38:38

Gemma: Yeah, I did Bepanthen for the first 2 weeks, but I haven't been doing it this week.

38:42

Josh: Is it true that it actually says The Daily Talk Show?

38:44

Gemma: Yeah, it's actually all of your faces. And Harry, which is weird because I got it before he even I've met him.

38:51

Josh: Hayden Dibbs is just going along nicely.

38:53

Tommy: Yeah, looks so good. He says he forgets about it.

38:55

Gemma: Yeah, forgotten. But because mine's so fine, it healed really quickly. And Phoebe's got it on the same day, same deal, which has been comparing.

39:04

Tommy: Did you want an opportunity to rebut Tommy's nastiness?

39:07

Josh: I already saw it in the comments, you snarky little bitches.

39:09

Gemma: Oh my God, he's racist.

39:10

Tommy: I love that he said bitches, so it's not a bitch. Like if he called you a bitch, not okay. Called both of us bitches.

39:16

Gemma: Here's what I take issue with. Your face. Go back and watch the video because I'm listening to it.

39:24

Josh: No, sorry, in the little comment, you bitches.

39:27

Harry: Oh, because you screenshotted the face.

39:29

Josh: So what Harry's talking about is in the message thread.

39:32

Gemma: You were meant to see it. I've never seen a more— like, the face of someone.

39:38

Tommy: Oh, it's nasty.

39:39

Gemma: Yeah, it's so nasty. And like, I'm just—

39:43

Josh: I scare myself in the mirror sometimes.

39:44

Gemma: How many tattoos have you got? One? And when did you get that?

39:50

Josh: Uh, 13 years ago.

39:51

Gemma: Okay, so do you—

39:52

Josh: long time ago.

39:53

Gemma: When you went they would have been like "when did you last eat?" "What did you eat?" Nah nah no, not at all.

39:58

Josh: Either they've got real strict rules or I was 17 when I got it so it's illegal at the time there used to be a law that you could get them at 17 if you had mum and dad's permission. Really?

40:10

Gemma: 16 right here.

40:11

Josh: Yeah, 16. Is that New South Wales law?

40:13

Harry: I'm not sure, but I think it's 16.

40:15

Gemma: So my first issue was his face. And then my second one is like, if I don't know something, I'll just be like, yeah, but like, I don't know. And he's like, no, that's— that can't be right. Oh, okay.

40:28

Josh: That's what happens with you from up there on your high horse. I've been misrepresented on this show many times and we've had to pull up the audio, which Josh has got wrong quite a few times. What, misrepresented in regards to what I said? And then we listen back.

40:39

Tommy: Well, I guess part of it, I think that there is a tendency to be extremely confident in some things that you're not necessarily sure on, which then puts the other person in an uncomfortable position because it's like we either defend ourselves, which looks like we're being babies. Yeah. Or we say, no, you're right. But the weird thing is you're wrong.

41:00

Josh: Yeah.

41:01

Gemma: And I find it like you've said this before and listening to that, I was like, Oh, I get it.

41:08

Tommy: In New York when you were directing Breen, I was like, it's this way.

41:10

Harry: Yeah.

41:11

Tommy: And then we walked for an hour and it was the wrong way.

41:14

Josh: It's a slight exaggeration.

41:15

Tommy: It was 15 minutes, but it felt like by the time you walked back.

41:19

Josh: No, but the point is that you were saying, sure, I was trying to catch up with what the— So you told the storey like everyone knew what was going on. The Coca-Cola. Gemma had the Coca-Cola. I was like, what the fuck? She got a Coca-Cola?

41:31

Gemma: I don't think you did tell it like everyone knew what was going on.

41:33

Josh: It was an in-story. You're like, oh, Gemma with the Coca-Cola. And then I was like, so the Coca-Cola, what's the Coca-Cola got to do with any of this?

41:41

Gemma: If you have low blood sugar, you are more likely to faint. If you're in extreme pain, you're very likely to faint. Because I hadn't had a tattoo before, you don't know what your pain barrier is. Turns out mine's very high because I'm real tough, but you want to have high blood sugar just in case.

42:00

Harry: I think— well, I almost fainted. I vomited at the optometrist and she'd only put eye drops in.

42:05

Tommy: Geez. The optometrist?

42:07

Gemma: Oh my God, I put contact lenses in every morning. How would you go?

42:10

Harry: Because I had a hole in one of me retina thingies, so I had to go and get it lasered.

42:14

Gemma: A hole in one of me retina thingies?

42:17

Tommy: That sounds severe.

42:18

Harry: So I had to go and get it lasered and the lady goes, okay, we'll just put the eye drops in that make your pupils bigger. So I put me head back and she put them in there. I said, oh, I need to lay down. So I laid down on the floor and she handed me the recycling bin and I just vomited in the recycling bin. Why not just the It was the closest thing possible.

42:36

Tommy: Okay.

42:36

Harry: Because I was just gone.

42:38

Tommy: How are you with blood tests?

42:39

Harry: Oh, I haven't had a blood test for years. Like, I fainted at the year 7 injections.

42:45

Josh: Are you a fainter, Gemma?

42:46

Gemma: No, no, no. And I have no problem with like needles and blood and anything. I'm so tough. I don't know if you guys heard, I got a tattoo.

42:53

Josh: Yeah, fainting is full-on.

42:56

Gemma: I get dizzy a lot, but that's because I'm low in iron. Uh, probably, but very low in vitamin D, as we— I think we've discussed on here before.

43:07

Tommy: Why were you so nasty about the sun before if you're low in vitamin D?

43:12

Gemma: Oh, I just take supplements. Okay, because I don't want melanoma.

43:16

Tommy: Yeah, no, I get that. I mean, if you put in sun—

43:19

Harry: if you—

43:20

Tommy: does sunscreen block vitamin D?

43:23

Gemma: I don't believe so, but I'm not— you look better.

43:26

Tommy: MD.

43:26

Gemma: But I think I think, and this is obviously medical, so I don't want to, but I think to properly absorb vitamin D, you only need like 20 minutes a day, and it's meant to be on an area that wouldn't be getting sun all the time.

43:39

Tommy: Oh, really?

43:40

Harry: Yeah.

43:41

Tommy: Because we were at a shoot, we were at a shoot in, where was that? Was that New South Wales? Yeah, New South Wales. And before the client got there, Tommy took his top off and was laying down trying to get Um, dude, I mean, I, I enjoy doing it.

43:57

Josh: I did it. It was actually—

43:59

Tommy: he was trying to get vitamin— he was trying to up his testosterone before the testosterone—

44:04

Josh: this was crazy. I mean, in retrospect, he had absolutely nothing to worry about, or it was the answer.

44:10

Harry: Yeah, maybe that's—

44:12

Tommy: yeah, yeah, he won. Yeah, what's the deal?

44:14

Mason: Uh, sunscreen prevents sunburn by blocking UVB light. Theoretically, that means sunscreen lowers vitamin D levels.

44:21

Gemma: Sunscreen should be blocking UVA, but you need a broad spectrum. Anyway, you can—

44:27

Josh: you had the, uh, yeah, it was that.

44:30

Gemma: I had a, I had a female dermatologist on the podcast, but also I'm a La Roche-Posay ambassador, and the event I was emceeing yesterday was about sunscreen.

44:36

Josh: Oh, that looked good. That was it.

44:38

Gemma: It was a great event.

44:39

Josh: Was that at someone's house?

44:40

Gemma: Yeah, I love events that are at houses.

44:43

Josh: You mean rich people? Yeah, I mean, if it was at my house, you'd be a bit crap.

44:47

Gemma: Yeah, but everyone can play basketball.

44:50

Josh: There's a spa out the back.

44:51

Tommy: You could have Michelle Timms on standby running a clinic out the front.

44:55

Josh: Yeah, but this place—

44:55

Tommy: Have you seen Michelle lately?

44:56

Josh: Yeah, yeah, she's actually filled the place with Christmas stuff. Candy canes.

45:02

Gemma: Oh, she hadn't when I drove past the other day.

45:04

Josh: I forgot my mask on. Like Santa's out the front.

45:06

Tommy: Like edible stuff, like things you can eat.

45:08

Josh: No, no, no, no, like big signs. And it's awesome. It's really Christmassy. But the house you're at looked like a mansion. Big tennis court.

45:16

Gemma: Yeah, so there's like a whole—

45:18

Josh: I thought it was Chris Johnson.

45:20

Gemma: There's a whole— there's websites where you can, like, if you're a rich person with a beautiful home, you can rent it out for events and photo shoots and stuff.

45:30

Josh: What's this?

45:31

Tommy: This is—

45:32

Gemma: is this— Luxe Houses.

45:33

Tommy: He's doing it, isn't she?

45:34

Josh: She's about to find out a price because I wouldn't mind to hold a big, um, the Daily Talk Show house party.

45:39

Gemma: There's— I forget which company this was through, but in Sydney the big one is Luxe Houses. I went to an event launch like a couple of weeks ago at the most unbelievable house I've ever seen.

45:48

Josh: What's the point?

45:49

Gemma: Gordon's Bay.

45:50

Josh: Gordon's Bay.

45:51

Tommy: Oh, nice.

45:52

Josh: Because I saw a sunglass— I dropped a mate at a house and I was like, what's this? And it was at this place that looked over Rose Bay.

45:59

Gemma: Yeah.

46:00

Josh: And it was a sunglass launch.

46:02

Gemma: Heaven.

46:03

Josh: Yeah. And so they must have done the same thing.

46:05

Gemma: Yeah. It's the way to do it.

46:06

Josh: So what do you reckon you're paying for to use a rich person's house to run an event? And why are rich people wanting to do this anyway if they're rich?

46:13

Tommy: I know that when— well, because a lot of rich people are quite tight or like making money, or they make their money, or they postcard povos.

46:22

Josh: Postcode povos.

46:24

Gemma: Or, um, because a lot of these houses have won like architecture awards and things, so then it's more coverage for the house. Sure.

46:31

Tommy: Or they like installations. They live there, but it's for the—

46:35

Josh: it's a funny thing, like, if you buy a house that is been built that you, you know, and sold many years ago and gone through a few owners and it's been, you know, say if I build a house now, I don't take any photos. No one knows what it's like, right?

46:50

Gemma: Yeah.

46:50

Josh: But if you buy a house that's been sold a few times, you can look through it online. You can find old resale photos.

46:57

Gemma: The event yesterday when they sent through the details, I, you know, looked it up.

47:01

Harry: Real Estate.com today. Yeah. And I was like, I do that with lots of people's houses.

47:06

Gemma: It was last sold in like 2000 and something.

47:09

Harry: 2006.

47:09

Gemma: Oh, I didn't actually take notice. 3+?

47:13

Josh: 3 million plus, you reckon? Nah. What suburb?

47:15

Gemma: Malvern East.

47:16

Josh: Okay, okay.

47:17

Gemma: And but if you look at my house, there's nothing because it's never been—

47:21

Josh: You bought it?

47:22

Gemma: Uh, my dad's parents built it when he was 11.

47:25

Tommy: Oh wow.

47:25

Gemma: And he's now 72.

47:27

Tommy: Fuck.

47:28

Josh: Yeah, when he was 11.

47:29

Harry: Yeah. So it's—

47:30

Tommy: That was 61 years ago.

47:33

Gemma: We've obviously renovated it since because it's never been sold. There's nothing.

47:37

Tommy: Does that mean— Is that— When did we get, um, this? Maybe bit silly, but when did they— we get like toilet systems? Did they have a dunny or something?

47:45

Josh: Thomas Crapper?

47:47

Harry: Like an outhouse?

47:49

Gemma: No, they didn't have an outhouse. I know the toilet you had to like— it's still in the same place now, but the room that it's in, I can't explain it without a photo.

47:57

Tommy: Was it a farm? Was it a bigger piece of land or was it always—

48:00

Gemma: Nah, nah.

48:01

Tommy: Really?

48:02

Gemma: They were building everything in that street around the same time, Dad tells me.

48:05

Tommy: Oh, that's cool.

48:05

Gemma: There's photos from when they first built it.

48:07

Tommy: Are you talking about your next steps of like buying a home?

48:11

Gemma: Like, oh yeah, we've been going to opens all year. I'm not allowed to speak at them. Yeah, I'm an idiot with those things.

48:17

Josh: And what are they worried that you're gonna say?

48:19

Gemma: Oh no, just because Chris is a carpenter, so he walks into the room and he's like, okay, well, this wall would get knocked down, this becomes this, blah blah blah. And I'm like, I just don't love the color. And he's like, yeah, no, so we can paint that. Yeah, that, that's obviously not something you need to worry about. And I'm like, I'm like, this house doesn't have a decking. I really want a decking. And he's like, yeah, cool. So I'm a carpenter, so I would just sort of get the boys around and we'd, you know, make a weekend of it. And I'm like, oh, okay, cool. And then I'll go missing and he's like, where's Gemma? And I'll be in a carpeted bedroom kind of just doing like rocking back and forth. And he's like, what are you doing? I'm like, do you reckon there's floorboards under here? I want to rip up this carpet again. Yeah, I'm a carpenter.

49:02

Tommy: So, but the floorboards thing is an interesting thing.

49:04

Gemma: I remember they're not hard to put down if you're a chippy, it turns out.

49:08

Harry: Really?

49:08

Tommy: Yeah, because as a kid I remember it was like pulling up shit tiles to reveal shit beautiful floorboards. It was always outrageous, but like, I couldn't believe— I remember it was so fun getting like a crowbar and bang, bang, bang, and you—

49:24

Harry: there's asbestos sometimes, like, yeah, vinyl tiles.

49:27

Gemma: It's that era.

49:29

Harry: Vinyl?

49:30

Josh: Yes. And the vinyl tiles, it's a lot.

49:32

Tommy: That's what we had in the old office.

49:33

Josh: It's in the glue.

49:35

Gemma: We had an asbestos scare this year when part of our decking roof just went.

49:39

Josh: Oh really?

49:41

Gemma: There wasn't asbestos because it was just out of— there was a— there's like a period of time when everyone was just using it, and then I think we just— but they still had to come and like test it.

49:50

Tommy: And what is asbestos? It's like the material that's used.

49:53

Harry: It's like a fiber. It's more of a hairy sort of fiber. Yeah, I called the the Department of Education, and I've got a record from it about the amount of asbestos in our school.

50:06

Tommy: Really? How did that come about?

50:09

Harry: Pum?

50:09

Gemma: Love to know how much asbestos is at Coonong.

50:12

Harry: It was a funny story.

50:13

Gemma: Dead bird in the roof for about a year.

50:15

Tommy: Oh really?

50:16

Josh: No one to get it.

50:17

Gemma: Oh, de Coonong.

50:19

Tommy: Tell us, Harry, what is the story?

50:21

Harry: So I contacted the head— I just hopped on Google and I found the email address, so I sent an email. So they contacted my school. Department of Education somewhere in there.

50:31

Tommy: What even got you there? Like, so you were looking around like, I think there's asbestos?

50:34

Harry: Yeah, because I was reading like the vestment ceilings or whatever they call it, um, like popcorn ceilings.

50:40

Josh: Yeah.

50:40

Harry: And that sometimes had it in it, so I was curious if that had it in it. So I sent an email and then he sends it to the, uh, the State of New South Wales person who looks after all New South Wales, and then he sent it to the southern end of New South Wales, and then he sent it to the the top of the Riverina, and then he sent it to our local district, and then it went to my principal, and then my principal—

50:59

Tommy: when you fucking just email me—

51:01

Harry: and then it goes from the principal back up to there and went all the way back up the chain and then back down the chain about 5 things, and then they had to get an audit, I think, done. Oh, I'm not sure. I didn't— I wasn't too professional.

51:14

Tommy: You sent the email but didn't follow up?

51:16

Harry: No.

51:16

Josh: So you just caused a massive fucking headache?

51:18

Harry: Yeah, I've still got the correspondence somewhere. It was quite funny.

51:21

Tommy: That's good.

51:22

Josh: It's fucking annoying. You can send off. So Dad was doing some maintenance on a property and found this thing. He's like, ah, this looks a bit dodgy. You take a sample, bag it up, $80, you send it off and it comes back and they tell you.

51:35

Harry: Why would you want to play with it?

51:37

Josh: Oh, we're going to work out. It's only if you're bloody putting it in a blender and it's going everywhere. Yeah, it's when you start cracking it and dust stuff. Yeah, but you can just get little piece.

51:46

Tommy: I wouldn't like to do it anymore.

51:48

Josh: It's weird. The worst thing is at our old office, it all got pulled up by a spider. Asbestos removers, the floor, the vinyl flooring. Some poor bloke next door ripped it all up. He's like, I'll do it for $500. Maybe 4 years ago. Maybe 4 years ago.

52:05

Harry: He's no longer with us. Sorry.

52:08

Josh: We'll find out in 20 years. Yeah, because that's—

52:11

Tommy: yeah, it's full on, isn't it? Talking about the, you know, cutting something up.

52:15

Gemma: I just thought of something.

52:16

Tommy: You go. No, you go.

52:18

Gemma: Just— he's no longer with us. I just thought of that person when you did the Q&A.

52:23

Tommy: Oh yeah, what happened?

52:24

Gemma: Fuck, marry, kill, Jenna or Michelle and Zara from Shameless. I was like, I've had a good innings.

52:32

Tommy: So someone who was, uh, yeah, she messaged us and said, uh, or we were asking, hey, questions from the Gronks that we can answer, and it was the whole kill, fuck, marry, kill. That one was on the cutting room floor. Yeah, probably not appropriate. Secret.

52:48

Josh: Um, what would you do, Gemma, between Tommy and Harry?

52:55

Tommy: The, um, the idea of sending something off— DNA, like genetic tests.

53:00

Gemma: Oh, I did it, 23andMe.

53:02

Tommy: Oh, you did it?

53:04

Josh: You won't turn your location settings on, but you'll spit into a tube.

53:07

Gemma: Oh no, I will turn my location settings on, I just don't really know how to, and then I forget about it, and then I just So you spat into a tube, send it off? Yeah, it takes ages to get that much saliva.

53:17

Tommy: Really?

53:17

Gemma: And you can't eat for a couple of hours, and I love food, and I was like, I'll do it. Oh no, I won't.

53:24

Tommy: It just comes back as results as bacon.

53:26

Josh: Hey, Target, what, um, what'd you find out?

53:31

Gemma: Uh, 98.6% Great Britain. So pretty interesting. And then, um, I think the next The only like vaguely interesting thing in there was like the rest is Scandinavian. So I just—

53:45

Josh: Do they still do that health thing?

53:47

Tommy: Because when I did it—

53:48

Gemma: Not the one that I did. Details. This was through Clinique because—

53:52

Harry: Oh yeah, I want to do it, but I don't want to find out I'm not blue blood.

53:56

Tommy: What's that mean?

53:57

Harry: Like posh. I like to think I've got blue blood in me.

54:00

Tommy: Oh, that means like royal sort of thing.

54:03

Josh: What about British?

54:04

Harry: I don't know, like posh people.

54:05

Tommy: Is there racial sort of undertones to blue blood?

54:08

Gemma: He's just a country boy.

54:09

Josh: Is it?

54:09

Harry: No, I think it's just saying Google it. '97. Now I feel bad.

54:13

Gemma: I have a storey that will sound like a lie.

54:14

Harry: It's like white collar, like a saying, like someone's a white collar worker.

54:18

Gemma: I think this is how posh I am, and it will sound like a lie, but I swear to you it is the truth. My family owned Stonehenge.

54:27

Mason: What?

54:27

Gemma: Yeah, the land that Stonehenge is on, and then the maintenance.

54:30

Tommy: I thought you meant like a cafe.

54:32

Gemma: Yes.

54:33

Josh: Do they know how it got there? Because if they know that, that's a good—

54:36

Gemma: they sold it to through, like, I don't know, the government or something.

54:41

Tommy: Was this on realestate.com.au?

54:42

Gemma: Yes, it was.

54:43

Josh: What did it go for? Last sold in 1866.

54:46

Tommy: How did you actually find this out?

54:47

Gemma: Because my dad told me.

54:48

Harry: But how?

54:49

Gemma: And then I was like, this is a lie.

54:51

Harry: How close?

54:53

Gemma: Oh, not super close. The government has owned it for a long time.

54:57

Josh: But seeing as they sold it, like, imagine if they still owned Stonehenge.

55:02

Harry: Imagine owning Stonehenge.

55:03

Gemma: I'm like, where's my money?

55:06

Josh: Does that mean that they owned the rock?

55:09

Gemma: I don't know. Well, if you own the land and it's like, no one knows how it got there.

55:14

Josh: Does anyone know how it got there? I don't know. It'd be interesting.

55:17

Tommy: One interesting thing is both of your parents had kids later in life. What's the difference? What do you think? Because your mum.

55:26

Josh: Oh yeah, she was nearly 40.

55:28

Harry: I was born when Mum was 40.

55:30

Gemma: Oh yeah. My mum was 34 and my dad was 44.

55:33

Tommy: Yeah. So your dad was a bit older. What do we think? What's the difference between— because TJ, you're considered a young Dad.

55:40

Gemma: Good dad.

55:41

Tommy: Good dad.

55:41

Josh: Great dad.

55:42

Gemma: Sorry, great dad.

55:44

Tommy: Great dad.

55:44

Gemma: Great dad.

55:45

Tommy: I was just softening it to good dad.

55:46

Harry: Good dad.

55:47

Josh: Now don't fucking take me down. Yeah, no, perfect dad.

55:50

Tommy: What do you think is different? Is there? Because people talk about like, I want to have kids young or whatever, or it's like, I guess people are staying to have kids older. Do you think there is actually a distinction when you're growing up as a kid? Is there a different experience? I guess.

56:05

Harry: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

56:05

Tommy: What do you think the difference is?

56:08

Harry: I think there is like, I've got, I actually, one of my mates' mum I've got on Snapchat. Like they're all really cool and hip.

56:14

Gemma: But then so are my parents.

56:15

Harry: Yeah, but mine aren't.

56:17

Tommy: Oh shit, they listen at half speed.

56:20

Josh: Yeah, his dad said that's an accident.

56:23

Tommy: The podcast was too slow and it worked out that he had it on half speed.

56:26

Gemma: That'll do it almost every time.

56:29

Josh: And I think that proves Harry's point. Yeah. No, I think It's tiring as it is as someone with high testosterone and being young.

56:39

Gemma: Yeah, do you have testosterone?

56:41

Josh: Hugely high, massively. But I, um, I see some older parents, I'm like, fuck, it's tiring, like you look really tired.

56:49

Tommy: But then they could potentially, like, there's something nice. I always forget your dad's name. I remember just Bruce.

56:55

Gemma: So Bruce has gotten to retire and probably spend more time with Gem and do all those sorts of But I just, it's probably a different experience for every family because like I'm an only child. So that was, that's different again. And then my parents have like super high energy, like again, again, I got home last night, I had people over almost and they were like, aren't you going to have a wine with us? I'm like, no, I have a meeting at 8:00 in the morning. Okay.

57:21

Tommy: Is it like having sort of housemates?

57:24

Gemma: Yes, that's exactly what it's like. And then this morning I'm up getting ready and they're like, where are you off to? I have a job. She says in no makeup and activewear, face mask on. Yeah, I'm working.

57:38

Tommy: Do they think that they, uh, do you think that they would like you to stay longer at home?

57:43

Gemma: Dad does. Yeah, Dad gets super upset.

57:46

Tommy: But is he sabotaging?

57:48

Josh: He kicks you super and we'll be even. If you want me to stay home, pay me.

57:52

Gemma: I'm the breadwinner though. I hope they don't listen to this because they'll be like, cool, pay pay more board.

57:57

Tommy: Exactly. And clean the fucking toilet.

57:58

Harry: Classic.

57:59

Josh: You know, you know you're living at home when you hear the word board.

58:02

Gemma: Yeah, I've been paying board since September '21.

58:05

Tommy: What is the—

58:05

Gemma: what's the—

58:06

Josh: like, board? What does board mean?

58:08

Gemma: Well, you're a boarder.

58:09

Josh: Boarder.

58:09

Gemma: You're bored. I'm boarding at my parents' home.

58:13

Josh: Board.

58:13

Tommy: I think that's good. I think that, that, like, having that formal sort of thing is probably, like, bringing you closer to an adult existence. Versus just sort of living there.

58:25

Josh: Harry, have you got any plans? Like, if you didn't go to uni, would have you left home?

58:29

Harry: I think so. Would have, because I can't stand the farm. Oh, it's— I don't like it at all.

58:34

Gemma: You've got too much sparkle for the farm.

58:35

Harry: Yeah, I do, I do. So does Mum. Me and Mum are both city slickers.

58:38

Tommy: Yeah. Does your mum do any stuff on the farm?

58:42

Harry: No, no, she's indoors with me. Dad and Ellie go out on the farm.

58:46

Gemma: Are they wearing sunscreen? Uh, I don't know.

58:49

Tommy: Hmm, what's some of the things that's missing in the country? Like, what— where, where are the country behind versus sort of city? And where is the city behind versus the country?

59:01

Harry: I don't know. Um, there's no public transport out in the country, but just normal people have their license, but I don't have my license.

59:09

Gemma: You know, like, I didn't get mine until last year.

59:12

Harry: I wouldn't worry about it because when you're 21 Melbourne, you get it by default.

59:16

Gemma: Or no, no, you just don't have to have 120 hours.

59:20

Tommy: Okay, so I had a friend who moved from Adelaide to Melbourne. She was on her L's, went to get her L's in Victoria, gave her learner's, and they gave her a full licence back.

59:31

Josh: Jesus, you didn't have to go for it?

59:32

Tommy: Yeah.

59:33

Josh: How long has she had her L's though for? Maybe there's some like, um, if you've had— is she young or is she older?

59:38

Gemma: My L's were going to expire.

59:40

Tommy: That's how long it was. 25?

59:41

Josh: Yeah, so maybe it was I wonder if it is, but it doesn't make sense. You need to do the test. Yeah, maybe they stuffed up. Oh well, lucky her.

59:48

Tommy: So did you— what are you looking at, Harry?

59:50

Harry: Well, I was trying to see when I got mine because maybe if there's a certain amount of—

59:53

Josh: you just hold out, Harry, 7 years and you get your instant peas.

59:57

Gemma: No, it expires, then you have to re—

59:59

Harry: yeah, once it expires, I think you should just go for it. Yeah, I've got to bite the bullet and just do it. Oh, 2023. Oh, how old would I be then?

60:07

Gemma: Then I don't know maths.

60:09

Tommy: So you're, uh Josh?

60:11

Mason: Well, you're right, 21, mate.

60:13

Gemma: I got mine at 25.

60:15

Harry: Your L's?

60:16

Gemma: No, my P's, which is— I feel so— because so I've got my P's and then I'll be at a red light and then these like 18-year-old boys will kind of roll up next to me expecting some like hot 18-year-old and I'm there with like my glasses on and like a shawl, cardigan.

60:33

Tommy: Uh, the poor buggers. Uh, you're gonna have to go to Echuca, were you saying?

60:36

Harry: Yeah, I've got to go about an hour because Mum and Dad bought me driving lessons for Christmas last year.

60:41

Gemma: Oh, my parents did that when I was like 21.

60:44

Tommy: I was like, get a hint.

60:45

Harry: But I still haven't taken them actually. I've got one on Monday, my first one.

60:49

Tommy: Oh, exciting.

60:50

Harry: So yeah, yeah, I might chicken out though.

60:54

Gemma: I didn't like it and now it's nice. Uber today.

61:01

Josh: You want the freedom. You mentioned that. Yeah, it adds to the freedom. Freedom. Yeah, so you can just—

61:07

Harry: I, I just don't want to drive with all the other dickheads on the road.

61:10

Tommy: No, I get that, because yeah, there are a lot of idiotic people on the road.

61:14

Harry: Like the fella this morning.

61:16

Tommy: What's happening?

61:16

Gemma: The fellas are coming into the car park, uh, coming out of Maccas.

61:21

Tommy: Yeah, that wasn't too bad, but there were—

61:24

Josh: if it was bad, Harry, Josh would have got scared.

61:27

Gemma: Bang!

61:28

Tommy: No, there was There was actually 3 guys when we were walking into work and they looked a bit dodgy. And what did they ask for?

61:39

Harry: Our phones so they could find an address because all 3 of their phones were flat because they just had a bucks.

61:46

Tommy: They're like, I just had a bucks party off the bus.

61:48

Harry: They just got off the bus.

61:50

Josh: Oh, that makes a little bit more sense.

61:52

Gemma: First date bucks party.

61:53

Tommy: I thought that they had a bucks.

61:55

Josh: What did you do?

61:56

Gemma: That's actually where I got that crown.

61:58

Tommy: I just said, Oh, our phones are flat too.

62:03

Josh: I don't blame you. Yesterday I thought I saw one of the, um, the local heroin addicts that we know, Joel. Yeah, it looked like him. And I sort of was on my electric skateboard and I've pulled around. I got electric skateboard.

62:19

Harry: I want to learn how to skateboard.

62:20

Gemma: Me too.

62:21

Josh: Not on our watch. If you break your elbow, yeah, I can't have anything to do with us.

62:24

Tommy: We don't even have my phone insured, let alone I knew.

62:28

Josh: So I pulled around and I was going past and he sort of turned around and was like, mate. I said, you're right, mate. He said, not really.

62:37

Harry: Hey.

62:37

Josh: And I just fucking sent it.

62:41

Tommy: What do you reckon he was going to ask for? So that's what I'm curious about. What do you think those guys, when they said, can you Google something? I was thinking like my new phone, it'd be so annoying if they took it off me. And so I thought that it was a good one because it's like annoying is a It's a gentle word for having your phone stolen. It would be so annoying though. It would be a good story. I'm always looking at these things through stories.

63:03

Josh: What are they going to do? They can't do anything. YouTube's just checking on the show.

63:07

Gemma: Yeah.

63:08

Tommy: Can we do a time-lapse '97 of Gem's tan from the start of the show to the end of the show?

63:14

Mason: I mean, you wouldn't, you wouldn't see it though because it's on her arms.

63:16

Tommy: Do you have any on your face?

63:17

Gemma: A little bit, but because I, that's why I haven't got any makeup on because you do Do your body and then you just the leftovers, you go.

63:25

Josh: Nah, horrible story. You don't want them stealing your phone. But what do they know?

63:27

Harry: I mean, so Josh said, don't worry, my phone's flat too. So then like, what are the chances that all 4 people would have flat phones? I would have gone.

63:36

Tommy: Well, so that was the whole thing. My thing is like, you've done a real shit story, bullshit story. And yeah, I'm going to spin it back at you. And because the thing is, if they call bullshit, then I call bullshit. Like if they say, oh yeah, Show us. I'm like, will you show me yours? But the thing is that I didn't want— I did panic because it's so obvious that I have a phone in my pocket.

63:58

Josh: And so I was like, the iPhone 11 Pro.

64:00

Tommy: Yeah, I would like to get coins out though because I feel like people who ask for— like, we had the guy the other day who came up to us and he said, you comfy? Better?

64:09

Gemma: Much better.

64:10

Tommy: No, the guys came up to us and said, I've shit my pants.

64:13

Gemma: Oh yeah, don't you hate that?

64:15

Tommy: Yeah, but he did smell. I did He said, I've shit my pants.

64:18

Josh: Can I have $2 for undies?

64:20

Tommy: But he said, can I have $2 for undies? I literally didn't have the coins. In that case, I mean, being the—

64:27

Harry: you can't get undies for $2. Can't get undies for $2.

64:30

Josh: He might have already had 9 and he just needed 2 more.

64:34

Tommy: Oh, you can't get undies for $2. I reckon you could.

64:37

Gemma: I mean, yeah, but they would be in like a bulk pack, so the value may work out to be $2 per.

64:42

Mason: Yeah.

64:43

Tommy: What's that whole thing of like someone saying that?

64:46

Josh: Oh, it's hard to be in a position of saying, I've shit my pants.

64:51

Tommy: You're fucking like, pay away, I want to give you the fucking exact— I want to give you the $2 because it's like, you've like fucking— yeah, that's a level of vulnerability that I can pay out.

65:00

Gemma: What's vulnerability?

65:02

Tommy: It's fucking shitting your pants. Yeah, definitely telling people. Jesus. Anyway, Gem, thank you for coming in.

65:09

Gemma: Oh, just as I got comfortable.

65:12

Tommy: Well, what's on your list? What's on the, uh, the 100 items?

65:17

Mason: What should I get my mum for Christmas?

65:18

Gemma: Oh, well, okay, give me your price range and then category. Do you want skincare, makeup, fragrance, hair, body?

65:26

Mason: Fragrance?

65:27

Gemma: Yep. Fragrance is very— okay, so fragrance is a really— Britney Spears Impulse body spray. No, that you— that's more than 15. Fragrance is a really difficult thing to buy unless you know what perfumes she already likes to wear. So what What I need you to do for me is take photos of the perfumes she already has and wears. I will put them into my spreadsheet. I will work out the notes that match up and then I will make recommendations based on that.

65:51

Tommy: But if I was to, I remember back in the day.

65:53

Gemma: He's finally getting involved with the perfume spreadsheet. This is good.

65:56

Tommy: You can put in Airtable.

65:58

Gemma: I reckon I talked about that like the first episode I was here. Or maybe before.

66:02

Tommy: Maybe that was a, was that an email?

66:05

Harry: Oh yeah.

66:07

Tommy: Yeah, the, um, back in the day when I was younger, dupe, jump. Yeah, was like my go-to. Yes. Yeah, I would just wear dupe all the, all the time. If someone was to have dupe, what would be a— you would— do you have to use a spreadsheet?

66:21

Gemma: I need to look at the notes. I need to find—

66:24

Tommy: does yours have— what do you wear?

66:29

Gemma: Uh, Lalabo is the brand. Teinoir 29 is my favourite Le Labo.

66:33

Tommy: Okay.

66:34

Gemma: Um, I wear a lot with sandalwood. Um, musk tobacco is one of my fave notes.

66:42

Tommy: Um, is that some sort of nicotine?

66:44

Gemma: Bergamot, that's a citrus. Um, I just like woods and spices.

66:49

Tommy: The sandalwood stuff's very interesting.

66:52

Gemma: I like a base of like a sandalwood or a cedar.

66:54

Tommy: There's really interesting— uh, yeah, I saw a bunch of stuff like, um, there was a company that IPO'd like public and all that sort of thing that shit the bed, but it was all around the sandalwood Cedarwood's very interesting as a scent. Well, yeah, it's like very popular in, I think, India or something, but they use it a lot in fragrances. It smells good and you can get like jewel, like wooden jewellery and stuff out of it. And but it's apparently like a bit of a gold mine in regards to like if you create plantations and shit.

67:23

Josh: Yeah, I've got a beard oil that smells lovely.

67:25

Gemma: Oh, vetiver is probably the most common one.

67:28

Tommy: Vetiver.

67:28

Gemma: Yeah, that's another woody sort sort of.

67:30

Josh: So, Max, you're gonna get a— well, I've just—

67:33

Mason: your mum has black opium.

67:35

Gemma: Oh, perfect. Jill Watts wears that. I'll send you recommendations.

67:38

Harry: Great.

67:38

Tommy: How do you know?

67:39

Gemma: Black opium's why? Because I went on the roll. The regular black opium.

67:44

Mason: I didn't know there was multiple. I've seen it's just the, the one with the circle in the middle of the—

67:49

Gemma: does she listen to this?

67:50

Josh: Yeah.

67:52

Gemma: Okay, we'll talk.

67:54

Harry: Okay. The, um, Denise, what do you wear? Is it Denise?

67:57

Mason: It's Denise.

67:57

Harry: Yeah. What do you wear?

67:58

Josh: Yeah, he's asking that.

68:01

Harry: Oh, she's not. So in that spot there, she'll reply and then Mason will overhear her saying that, and then, you know, she's got good taste.

68:09

Gemma: Black Opium's lovely. It's in the gift guide.

68:13

Mason: Oh, perfect.

68:13

Gemma: Um, perfect indeed.

68:15

Josh: We're having you back on for a festive end of the year. Yes, Christmas special.

68:20

Gemma: My outfit ready.

68:20

Tommy: Fun. And any last words, Harry, that you'd like to send out in the Nothing. Do you guys want to do some improv?

68:29

Josh: Oh, I'm about to piss myself, to be honest.

68:32

Harry: Can I wash my glasses in the bathroom before you do, please?

68:34

Tommy: Okay, right, it's a daily talk show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Gem Kay Watts, thank you for being here. The Harry Love, uh, on Instagram, please give Harry a follow. And if, if you are in the TV industry and have any work for Harry, he's going to be in Melbourne in 2020. Me. And so just reach out to him on Instagram. Uh, yeah, great. See you tomorrow, guys.

68:56

Josh: See you guys.

68:57

Harry: Bye.

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