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Episode 50734:51

Underdressed In LA

Today we're sitting outside Bluestone Lane! We chat about Tommy's recent act of kindness, feeling underdressed, and what Mr. 97 thought about his first cup of coffee.

Show Notes

–Bluestone Lane
–Tommy’s colour game
–Being underdressed
–Lawsuits and billboards
–What car we’d get in LA
–Tommy’s act of kindness
–Mr 97’s first cup of coffee

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –Tommy was trying to wean himself off milk-based coffee during the US trip but broke the streak at Bluestone Lane because the coffee was too good.
  • –The hosts and their producer (Mr. 97) discuss cultural differences in the US, including leasing culture for cars, 'right on red' traffic rules, and ubiquitous lawyer billboards.
  • –Josh felt underdressed in running shorts and a hoodie at a high-end West Hollywood lunch spot (Cecconi's) and did a visible 'scan' of other patrons before removing his hat.
  • –Tommy recounts helping a man in a wheelchair down a long ramp at Oceanside, noting a 'bystander syndrome' / fear-of-liability culture in the US that may discourage people from helping strangers.
  • –Tommy tells an old story from 2012 about mocking a man on a Segway with a friend, only to realise the man was disabled and using it as a mobility aid — a lesson in not judging quickly.

Questions this episode answers

Why did Josh feel underdressed in West Hollywood?

Josh went to lunch at an upscale restaurant (Cecconi's) wearing Lululemon running shorts, a Daily Talk Show hoodie, and a hat, and felt out of place among the more dressed-up LA crowd, eventually taking off his hat after noticing no one else was wearing one.

What is the 'right on red' rule mentioned in the episode?

It's a US traffic rule where drivers can turn right at a red light without waiting for it to turn green, which Tommy and Josh find notable since Australia doesn't have an equivalent (it would be 'left on red' there).

What happened when Tommy helped a man in a wheelchair in Oceanside?

Tommy helped push a large man in a wheelchair down a long, steep ramp after noticing he was struggling and had an open wound on his leg, while Josh and the producer looked on without immediately helping.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

0:04

Josh: It's a Daily Talk Show episode 507.

0:08

Tommy: Cheers. Cheers with our Bluestone Lane coffee cups.

0:12

Josh: Yes.

0:12

Tommy: How good is that coffee?

0:14

Josh: It is very good. This is a coffee establishment that I went to for the first time, I think around 2013 or 2014 with Bree in New York City. Oh yeah. She had a list of places that we had to go to.

0:27

Tommy: Let me guess. The list was all Australian places.

0:29

Josh: There was a lot of Australian places, including Bluestone Lane, which was in New York.

0:35

Tommy: Yeah.

0:35

Josh: And now they're all over the place.

0:36

Tommy: So Nick Stone, the founder of Bluestone Lane, Aussie boy, Melbourne specifically, used to play footy. You know, if there's one thing we know, it's footy.

0:46

Mason: Woof, woof.

0:47

Tommy: He used to play for Collingwood and Hawthorn. Anyway, he's— we've got him on while we're over here and currently we're tasting the produce. Can you say it's produce? I guess beans before they're ground and made into coffee, it's produce.

1:00

Josh: Yeah, produce.

1:01

Tommy: I say, I made a promise to myself, which I'm breaking right now. And that promise was to—

1:07

Josh: No booze. You got a little bit of vodka.

1:09

Tommy: No, no, no, I am not drinking alcohol. I made a promise that while in the States, I wouldn't drink any milk or even almond milk for that matter. In my coffee so I can wean myself off the lattes because I find them too, like, uh, I go to them as like, oh, I'm a bit hungry and it's a bit naughty. I could probably have my third for the day.

1:32

Josh: I think it's fine. I think we were talking about this earlier. You were saying, ah, a guy that you follow online has given up sex. Yeah. And I just said, like, the world's gone mad.

1:42

Tommy: No, so what I wanted to do was wean off milk-based coffees and get on to black, all black. And I've done it once before coming back from the States. I managed to just do it. It was like a— it's like a— not even a detox because I'm not getting off them. But, you know, I wanted to just drink black coffee, but I'm breaking it because this coffee shop has got the best.

2:02

Josh: Yeah. So the aim is by 2025 you're having absolutely no fun. I think that's what you're— Quit porn. Quit alcohol. Yeah. Quit sex. Quit— what else can we quit? Meat.

2:12

Tommy: I'll quit this fucking show, mate.

2:14

Josh: You don't— it's the best thing you've got going for you. Is that what you're saying?

2:17

Tommy: Mate, I've got a baby and a wife.

2:19

Josh: PK's joined us.

2:20

Mason: Hey, PK, where are you?

2:22

Tommy: We're at Bluestone Lane.

2:24

Josh: Nick was in classic LA-style traffic. And so this place is busy, but he's very hospitable. He was like, guys, so sorry about the delays. Help yourself to whatever.

2:38

Tommy: And so Mr. 97 has absolutely gone to town.

2:42

Josh: Yeah, he's got 6 donuts.

2:45

Tommy: He's got one on each finger right now. You can't see him.

2:49

Josh: It's actually a bit obnoxious.

2:51

Tommy: No. So as this is a place of firsts for Mr. 97. He's currently holding right now a Bluestone Lane coffee cup, and he's just had a sniff of it because we've got him a black coffee. Just when you just say, can I just have a coffee? And they bring out just a nice brewed batch of coffee.

3:12

Josh: And so you haven't— can you take the lid off, 97? Because I want to keep a track of— sure— that you're consuming the whole thing.

3:18

Tommy: This could go badly for you. Okay, here we go. We could have a trust policy that he could just tell us he's doing a 3-day deal said Grace, all the donuts.

3:30

Josh: Very true. Could you imagine 3D dill at the— because we've been going to Whole Foods. We are very much basic bitches, and so we've been each evening, for some reason we've been forgetting to have dinner, or things have been getting ahead of us.

3:46

Tommy: And so our schedules made us have dinner at like 9:30, which I guess it's all over the shop because we're not Right now it's like middle of the day in Melbourne and it's evening time. It's almost evening time here. But Mr. 97, tell us what you've just taken the lid off.

4:01

Mason: Is it a black, black coffee?

4:03

Josh: Is that what it is? I mean, a single black.

4:05

Tommy: Yeah, single black, black. I don't know what double black is.

4:07

Mason: It's so much bigger than your one.

4:09

Tommy: Uh, yeah, because I got you the large, babe. So he's about to— and, and the— I think the strength of coffee over here is it's pretty brutal.

4:17

Josh: Yeah. And so it's, it's strong. It's like petrol. Good, good quality unleaded, the sort of—

4:22

Tommy: the 98.

4:23

Josh: Yeah, you're putting 98 Right into your body right there. Before you sniff it, I just want to say that you had, you were, there needs to be a slight intervention.

4:32

Tommy: Yes.

4:32

Josh: In regards to 97's consumption of the Whole Foods dinner menu because we all get a box and you have to fill up the box.

4:44

Tommy: No, no, no. There's boxes of different sizes and you can fill it to whatever height you want.

4:50

Josh: To be fair, he's picking the, we're all going the small sized box.

4:53

Tommy: Yeah, but Mr. 97, had that approach of, I'll fill it and it's a competition. How high can I get this thing? Which then makes it way heavier, which then they do it per pound.

5:04

Josh: Yeah. And so it's a bit of a Froyo incident. I remember spending fucking $50 on Froyo once, but you've been very like, you've 3D dealed the Whole Foods and that just Grace talking about 3D deal and what he would be doing in this situation. Did you trigger that?

5:21

Tommy: He'd be getting the large and his dinner, one Whole Foods box would be $55 American.

5:28

Josh: Could you imagine the cookies and like the dessert section, what that would look like?

5:32

Tommy: Oh my God. They do cookies by the weight. So you just like, it looks like you've got access to a bakery and then you just open it up, put them into a big bag, take it. Doesn't matter what you could mix match, put it on the counter and then they just weigh it.

5:45

Josh: I wonder what is like the best, if you were to really deconstruct it, where you could get the most value. So is it because at 97 you were saying that the guac, You felt that the guac per pound would have been good value?

5:56

Mason: Yeah, I mean, a whole box of that, it's a lot of guacamole.

5:58

Tommy: Look, I'm going to steer the boys away from food chat because we've been called out for having way too much food chat on this podcast.

6:04

Josh: It's more the calorie— I think what people push back on is that it's the calories around food. So not just being able to have fun with it.

6:11

Tommy: Oh man, that's not my conversation.

6:13

Josh: I mean, you did pick a cake just purely based on calories and I wasn't involved. Anyway. 97's got his coffee. This is the first time having— you took a sip once of a coffee when we were doing a film shoot when you were being a model. Do you remember that?

6:30

Tommy: And he was trying to impress us.

6:31

Josh: Yes. Do you remember?

6:34

Tommy: No, I can't hear a word you're saying.

6:35

Josh: So he said, he said no, no, he was— where was that at?

6:41

Tommy: The coffee place? A1 Coffee.

6:42

Josh: A1 Coffee.

6:43

Tommy: Melbourne.

6:43

Josh: Yeah.

6:43

Mason: So yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that— that was iced though, wasn't it?

6:46

Tommy: Yeah. Ice coffee.

6:47

Josh: And so now you're about to have some.

6:49

Tommy: So he's first, which this is going to be drinking a whole thing. Whether he shits himself or doesn't sleep tonight, I want one of the two. I'd be happy with both.

6:59

Josh: Absolutely.

7:00

Tommy: Both of you can't sleep. Yeah, yeah. Joshy, help me! He's just got the heater on in our bathroom. Oh, it's very— the heater in our bathroom is lovely, isn't it?

7:08

Josh: Can you take a sip? No, Seven, and tell us what you think.

7:10

Tommy: Okay, okay, okay. Here we go. And just remember We're at Nick Stone's establishment. Do not— he's got an under-matured palate. Yeah. So he doesn't understand what we mean.

7:23

Josh: We can confirm that this is good coffee.

7:25

Tommy: We bloody well can.

7:26

Mason: It tastes less strong.

7:27

Tommy: Does it?

7:28

Mason: Yeah.

7:28

Tommy: Great. It's the hidden assassin.

7:31

Josh: So are you enjoying it, or what are you thinking?

7:36

Mason: It's not too bad.

7:37

Josh: Okay.

7:37

Mason: It's nicer than a latte.

7:40

Josh: Really?

7:40

Mason: Not that I've had a latte, but I've only had a latte. I've had a sip of a latte or whatever. It's a bit nicer than that.

7:48

Josh: Okay. So coffee review in general, like, that's not even a— that's not even a cafe recommendation. That's a whole category recommendation there. Coffee. It's not as bad as you thought.

8:00

Tommy: It's a great category. We were talking this morning, and I don't know how I even got onto it. I can't remember. But it was basically colour association game where I say a colour and you say what flavour is associated with that color. So he's just done an anxious breath.

8:19

Josh: Mr. 97, he's already—

8:21

Tommy: it's already in his bloodstream.

8:22

Josh: He's just— well, he's— you're looking a bit veiny in the arms. What's that from?

8:27

Tommy: He's lean, mate. Blood sugar is, you know, he's pumped.

8:32

Mason: I mean, once I finish that whole cup, because it sucks all the water out of you, right? Yeah, it'll be like the dehydration actors do before they do a—

8:42

Tommy: or bodybuilders.

8:43

Josh: Should we try and get maybe a topless shot of you afterwards? Yeah, that would actually be a fun game, see how dehydrated you can get. Anyway, but the game that you were playing—

8:52

Tommy: So how about I say a colour and you need to say what flavour is associated with that color.

8:59

Josh: Okay, 97, you can play it as well.

9:01

Mason: Okay.

9:01

Josh: So you say color.

9:02

Tommy: So I want you to think in your head, the foods are, you know, poultry, um, are we going like food or flavor? So like chips.

9:11

Josh: So chips and crisps in general.

9:12

Tommy: I'm thinking about the flavours that associate to these kinds of food. You don't have to say the food, but I'm saying in your head to play this game, you need to think about all those things. So like chips, poultry, you know, pizza, like all the branding stuff that's surrounding that, because I think there is colours that are directly related to flavors. To flavors.

9:33

Josh: Gemma's joined us on the livestream today. Hey Gemma.

9:35

Tommy: Alright, so let's just start. Brown.

9:38

Josh: Barbecue. You're too slow. Yeah, true.

9:41

Tommy: This is—

9:42

Mason: if I'm too slow, I get his, as in like my brain jumps to your association.

9:47

Josh: Okay.

9:47

Tommy: Because you can't think.

9:48

Josh: So maybe— so do you want to do these?

9:50

Mason: The first thing I thought of was shit.

9:52

Josh: Yeah, you don't understand the game. So I think what we could do is Tommy, you say one and then we have a second, then you say 1, 2, 3, and we say, okay? No, don't say go.

10:03

Tommy: Okay.

10:04

Mason: Blue.

10:05

Tommy: 1, 2, 3.

10:07

Josh: Plain.

10:07

Mason: Milkshake.

10:09

Josh: He doesn't understand the game still.

10:10

Mason: Like a blueberry milkshake.

10:11

Josh: Okay, yeah, sure.

10:12

Tommy: But so I'm saying—

10:13

Josh: Blue heaven.

10:14

Tommy: So you're gonna say— sorry, I'm gonna explain it for the young guy. You need to say the flavor. Oh, okay, so it's sweet blueberry milkshake.

10:24

Josh: That's fine.

10:28

Tommy: Green equals—

10:30

Josh: okay, give us a second.

10:31

Tommy: 1, 2, 3.

10:32

Josh: Chicken.

10:33

Tommy: Yeah, see, this— there is— that is—

10:36

Mason: did you jump to free range then? Free range paddocks?

10:40

Josh: Yeah, like an egg carton, but also I'm thinking like, uh, Twisties. Packet. Green is chicken.

10:48

Mason: Jumpy's.

10:49

Tommy: What are Jumpy's? Next one. Yellow. 3, 2, 1.

10:53

Josh: Cheese.

10:54

Tommy: Yeah. All right, let's go.

10:57

Josh: This is an IQ.

10:57

Tommy: Let's go a bit more obscure.

10:59

Josh: Okay.

11:00

Tommy: Purple.

11:01

Mason: Grape.

11:01

Tommy: 3, 2, 1.

11:03

Josh: You shut the fuck up. Hang on.

11:04

Tommy: 3, 2, 1. All I can think of is grape.

11:10

Josh: All I can think of is grape.

11:10

Tommy: Because he said it first.

11:12

Josh: I would say potentially salt and vinegar, but it's more of a pink.

11:15

Tommy: No, nah.

11:17

Josh: Or Cadbury.

11:17

Tommy: You can say purple. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Red Rock Deli have purple for their salt and vinegar. So who come— who's coming up with these colors? Who's coming up with associating the colour to the flavor? Or is that just strong branding?

11:32

Josh: Well, there's a whole art to like colour science around Like the psychology of colours and what different colours mean.

11:43

Tommy: Well, I think like, um, this blue. I won't be able to think of a coffee shop that is blue without thinking of Bluestone Lane.

11:51

Josh: Yeah, and so it's got like the, um, yeah, for me there's the star. What is that star? So that star is the same star that was, uh, on your Christmas tree? No, my primary school uniform.

12:01

Tommy: Yeah, it's a star with, um, it's like a 1, 2, 3, 4.

12:09

Josh: Anyway, it's— no, but I really, I really like their logo, and it's got like a crown on top.

12:15

Tommy: Pink. 3, 2, 1.

12:18

Josh: No, I'm gonna have to—

12:19

Tommy: I was gonna say Fairy Floss, like a real just flat-out sugar.

12:24

Josh: I think you almost did.

12:25

Mason: Marshmallows. Yeah, they're always in pink branding.

12:27

Tommy: Oh yeah, Pascal.

12:28

Mason: The other thing is, I don't know why, but Juice Box. Boxes.

12:32

Tommy: I haven't seen pink juice boxes, but two Prima's.

12:37

Josh: You fucking fall apart without me, he says. So we actually, we went to, uh, we went to lunch with Tully today.

12:44

Tommy: Uh, Cachinas, Chichinas, Cuchillos, Cachillos. What was it called?

12:50

Josh: I don't know. But the thing is, I was slightly, um, Uh, Cecinos.

13:03

Mason: Cecinos.

13:04

Tommy: C-E-C-C-O-N-I-S. It's a real silly—

13:07

Josh: It's Italian. I mean, the thing is, uh, I did panic a little bit.

13:12

Tommy: Why?

13:13

Josh: I just, uh, going to lunch, I didn't really think about what I should be wearing, and so I rocked up with my Lululemon running shorts and my Daily Talk Show hoodie and my hat.

13:26

Tommy: You know what though, you were panicking for me when we walked I was like, you're the most underdressed in this very cool West Hollywood establishment that the Kardashians are probably frequenting.

13:36

Josh: Do you know the funny thing you do when you're in this situation? You're doing this real quick scan. Who else is in shorts? Who else is in shorts?

13:42

Tommy: So I think there's a thing about West Hollywood where if you dress like that, you know, you must be a fuck bro.

13:50

Josh: Oh, I actually thought the opposite. I thought they're probably— yeah, you know, they must have been like, fuck, there's a Hollywood producer, because who the fuck is— who else is walking around like that?

13:59

Tommy: Who has the audacity to do that?

14:01

Josh: And then the thing is, I actually— Seriously? Tully's not happy with how we're saying it. Cooconus. Big cojones. Anyway, you know, but I did feel a moment where I felt like I was underdressed, but I was pretty proud of myself because I quickly did take my hat off and put it under the—

14:24

Tommy: Oh, I didn't even notice that.

14:25

Josh: How did my hair look? Was it okay? Must have been all right.

14:28

Tommy: I did notice your hair, but I didn't think— I didn't connect it to that you'd just taken the hat off.

14:32

Josh: Yeah, I took it off because I thought that seems like— I was looking around, did the scan.

14:37

Tommy: Yeah.

14:37

Josh: No hats. Has there been anywhere, 97, anywhere where you've felt out of place when it comes to dress, where you've been underdressed or overdressed?

14:47

Tommy: You've got to go out to feel underdressed.

14:49

Josh: Yeah. I mean, yeah, you were going to pack a shirt.

14:53

Mason: Yeah.

14:54

Josh: Mum said pack a shirt, didn't she?

14:55

Mason: Yeah, I didn't pack one.

14:57

Josh: Why wouldn't you do what Mum says? What was your actual rationale?

15:01

Mason: Behind the shirt? Why, it's too much. It's a bit of a nightmare because it would get creased. If I roll it up, it's still gonna have creases. So I just thought I'd just go with a t-shirt.

15:10

Josh: So what's the best t-shirt you brought with you? This one?

15:13

Mason: Nah, my— the one that I wore like 2 nights ago.

15:17

Josh: Okay, when we were out and about.

15:18

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

15:19

Tommy: God, he wore it strong too. He looked great on the town.

15:24

Josh: The other thing too is I guess shoes are a big one. The Asics are a dead giveaway that I don't care.

15:29

Tommy: I mean, you— it is funny. Like, I think you push back on— like, I'll tell you, oh, there's something like, I'll fix something about your face and you take it like—

15:40

Josh: this is what I have to deal with every week.

15:42

Tommy: Oh, you've got something here, or I don't know, but I feel this real sense of pushback on like, who are you telling me this for? And then you turn around on me like I care that you were looking at someone.

15:56

Josh: Yeah, well, whenever you say something about there's something in your teeth, I'm like, I know.

16:00

Tommy: But you don't know.

16:01

Josh: No, I'm like, I'll deal with it later. It doesn't actually— we're walking. Yeah, I don't give a fuck right now.

16:06

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you don't really give a fuck. I mean, to wear the shoes you do, It's the only pair of shoes you have.

16:14

Josh: Yeah, I think there's something, yeah, the potential.

16:16

Tommy: I mean, think about Larry David.

16:18

Josh: Yeah, and to be honest, Jerry Seinfeld. I got very comfortable. I was like, as long as my biggest concern was I wasn't going to be allowed in.

16:25

Tommy: Yeah.

16:26

Josh: Did you think that for a second?

16:27

Tommy: I did for one second when the— but it's all valet out the front, so I thought it was a security guard. Yeah, but it was just like my shoes.

16:32

Mason: Was he?

16:33

Josh: Yeah.

16:33

Tommy: And I was like, he's probably thinking, fuck, they're comfy. Yeah. No, Hollywood, we saw a guy last night He looked like Pete Wentz from Fall Out Boy. He had face tattoos on and he had a hat sort of like poking up and a ciggie in his ear. His pants were really low and he was like— full rock star, face tat. And I was thinking he's either a celebrity or he's made some fucking bad choices. Because like, I was thinking only a celeb can really pull that off.

17:04

Josh: Well, we were learning a bit about car leases and you were talking the other day about costs of Range Rovers. I was giving a bit of pushback because I think you potentially undersold it. I think where the real—

17:15

Tommy: It was like 2012 prices when I was here.

17:17

Josh: Yeah, great year. But I think that the real kicker is that from what someone was telling us, everyone's leasing their cars.

17:26

Tommy: Yeah, it's a lease job around here. You pay $600 a month and get something new. You can have a, like, not a Ferrari, but like a high-end Merc.

17:36

Josh: Yeah.

17:36

Tommy: Or a—

17:37

Josh: You're definitely not a Ferrari for $600.

17:39

Tommy: A Mercedes?

17:40

Josh: Yeah.

17:41

Mason: I don't know.

17:42

Tommy: I mean, maybe you can get an old Ferrari.

17:44

Josh: Yeah, I love that. That's what you always do. You're always like, nah mate, nah, what I meant was a 1994 Ferrari.

17:50

Tommy: I was going to say Ferrari, then I admitted that I was like, nah, not a Ferrari. So that's me telling myself. I just verbalise to myself that it's not a Ferrari.

18:00

Josh: I get it. When you— when it comes to—

18:02

Tommy: it's okay.

18:04

Josh: Yeah, we're all good. Thank you. Hospitality, very good.

18:06

Tommy: Bloody service.

18:07

Josh: Very good.

18:08

Tommy: Mason, you'll tip, won't you?

18:11

Mason: I've got money in the back of my phone.

18:13

Josh: Okay. You've got money? You still got— wait, so your dad gave you $8.

18:16

Mason: I've got $6 left. Yeah.

18:20

Josh: Okay. Because you used $2 to— For the Fox rental car.

18:23

Tommy: Yeah, 4 of those bought you dinner last night.

18:27

Josh: What does that mean?

18:28

Tommy: 4 lots of these $6 bought him one dinner. Far out.

18:34

Josh: What if you were to— if you guys were to get a car, you know, you had that LA fuck you money, you had a lease?

18:40

Tommy: Yeah, I don't—

18:41

Mason: I—

18:41

Tommy: other than like, I think here there's so much traffic, I want a Tesla. I don't want to drive this traffic. Yeah, I want to be in there. But this place is like— when you drive the highways here, it is made like— Tesla makes so much, so much sense. Just the highways are outrageous. People are driving so bloody fast and switching lanes. There's 6 lanes. Tesla's smarter than me, dude. Yeah, yeah, smarter than you too.

19:06

Josh: No, I agree. I would have gone to Tesla. I'm guessing you would have gone to Tesla as well.

19:09

Tommy: And you've never seen so many Teslas.

19:12

Josh: Yeah, every time we see one, 97 pointed out.

19:15

Tommy: Yeah, he's actually slowed down. Oh, look at that. Yeah, look at the illuminating logo, mate. That's sun hitting it.

19:22

Josh: Yeah, you're actually— you're pushing back.

19:24

Mason: I was, I was, I was sold that it was like an LED logo.

19:28

Josh: No, it was literally the sun reflector. We're seeing a yellow school bus go by. There is a certain school bus. Yeah, classic. He doesn't have headphones in. You can't hear what I'm talking about all the time. It's because I turned my head when I was doing it. What are some of the other aesthetics that are specific to the US?

19:48

Tommy: Billboards, you've never seen so many. The freeway colour, so like the ground is like a grey.

19:57

Josh: Yeah, but also on the billboards, what do you think is the most common billboard you'll see?

20:01

Tommy: Movie posters. No.

20:03

Mason: Lawyers. Lawyers.

20:04

Tommy: Yeah, lawyers.

20:05

Josh: That's a bad accident.

20:06

Tommy: We can see one right now. Mirren McKinnon, The Good Life. So there's like, that's a movie. There's a, there's a bunch of, um, Mirren, uh, McKellen. McKellen. Yeah, there's a bunch of posters for stuff that we will never see, like, um, the streaming services that we don't have. So yeah, so the gray, like, think about watching, which I loved watching. Cops. Yeah, like the highway pursuits, looking down. Yeah, grey pavement or bitumen, whatever it is. What else is there?

20:39

Josh: Yeah, the '97, what was it for you? You love the police cars.

20:43

Mason: Yeah, the police cars are cool. We haven't— we actually, we haven't seen that many motorbikes in terms of like police.

20:47

Tommy: No, I was thinking that the other day. I don't think many— as many people ride motorbikes here. Yeah, I guess it's too dangerous.

20:54

Mason: Yeah.

20:54

Tommy: Oh yes, we did see one motorbike rider in an Elmo helmet, so he had like a some kind of like costume for his helmet.

21:02

Josh: Yeah.

21:02

Tommy: And he was dancing and what else? Palm trees. It's quintessential.

21:09

Josh: Yeah. No, there's a fair few palm trees.

21:11

Tommy: What is it for you, baby boy?

21:12

Mason: Yeah, I think big logos is another one.

21:17

Josh: Yeah, it's pretty general, isn't it? Big logos. Yeah, I get it.

21:20

Mason: No, but you know what I mean? Like the massive CVS sign.

21:23

Josh: Yeah. You know what? I think it's the the digital world coming in. So you see like Uber advertising, Amazon, Google, all of these big brands that we normally only see online, we are seeing out and about.

21:38

Tommy: So we're witnessing right now a guy who's on his phone. I mean, people on their phone in their car.

21:43

Josh: Look, we got a Segway.

21:45

Tommy: So I'm saying we're seeing a guy on a Segway, like a legit Segway you'd ride, like the Big ones, not just the ones for your feet. Yeah, I'm going to tell you a story. Once, 2012, great year, we're in Hollywood, West Hollywood. My mate Fitzie and I sitting at this place for dinner and we see this guy on a Segway. And there was a bit of stigma around Segways. Why is there still, do you think, like stigma? As in, like, people think like, ah, they're fucking dumb.

22:14

Josh: I don't know. I think Steve was Wozniak, he was big into the Segway.

22:18

Tommy: So I think early days, now they're fine. Like there's been so many of them, but when they first came out, they were like, ah, meh. I think they were just like dangerous.

22:28

Josh: I remember thinking about like, for whatever, I don't know why my mum was so invested, but she's like, they're so dangerous. Similar to her feeling towards meat that she has. Eat, you heard her on Facebook, eat meat on FaceTime. What else was she saying?

22:42

Tommy: They're already dead.

22:45

Josh: What else did you— nice having you doing, but what did you hear?

22:48

Tommy: So we're in West Hollywood having dinner and I see this guy on a Segway and Fitz and I were like, look at this fucking derp, this fucking derp. And he rides up into our restaurant and he managed to pull off the handlebar and he got off and he had a limp. He was disabled. It was That's his mode of transport. But I was like, oh my God, that was fucking— I was just paying that guy out for riding this stupid fucking Segway. Next minute I see that he's actually disabled and it's a great mode of transport for someone who's disabled.

23:20

Josh: Yeah, he sounded like an asshole, but I like them now. And I'll save that by saying you did a good deed yesterday.

23:27

Tommy: Well, none of you guys fucking stood up.

23:29

Josh: Well, to be honest, I was about to say something.

23:31

Tommy: This is not a cutdown, I appreciate it. I did do a good deed.

23:34

Josh: I wasn't going to bring it up because I knew This is where it would go because you're a hero.

23:38

Tommy: No, explain it. I'll drink my coffee.

23:41

Josh: No, so we're at Ocean— what is it, Ocean Point?

23:44

Tommy: Oceanside.

23:45

Josh: Oceanside. Fuck, they should just lose the second word, just call it Ocean.

23:48

Tommy: No, it's not second word, it's one word, Oceanside.

23:51

Josh: Okay, right, I wasn't looking after the maps. All right, Oceanside, uh, really nice place. The funny thing is you were saying, ah mate, it's not going to be as nice as Laguna.

24:00

Tommy: I don't think it is. I think it's like it's a bit trashy, bit more— it's a— yeah, it's a— it's like going from Safety Beach, uh, to Sorrento. That's a good— that's a good thing. That's a good, um, example. Safety Beach to Sorrento. Sorrento, hoity-toity. Inecca, right?

24:19

Josh: Yeah, no, it's fine. No, I'm— is it okay to engage the whole room while I'm talking? Anyway, uh, we were at Ocean View Oceanside. Ocean Pointe side. Oceanside. And there was a man who was in a wheelchair and he was a bigger man and he had— it looked like he had—

24:39

Tommy: he was 350 pounds.

24:41

Josh: Yeah. And so he had sort of early stage sort of diabetes stuff where it's early stage, dude.

24:45

Tommy: His leg was about to fall off.

24:46

Mason: Okay.

24:47

Josh: So he had— oh my God, like early stage amputation, I guess.

24:51

Mason: Yeah.

24:52

Tommy: It was the biggest open wound you've ever seen. Poor bugger. You could see he was just—

24:57

Mason: You would have been in so much pain.

24:58

Tommy: He was airing his leg because it was like— I mean, his leg was the size of my thigh. His calf was the size of my thigh, and it was like— it looked severely like a fresh burn.

25:07

Josh: The poor bugger. Anyway, so he's going down a ramp, and the thing is, people have— a bunch of people have said this in the States, there's so much sort of people suing each other and shit like that, so our mate was telling us a storey about their friend falling off a skateboard and no one helped him because they're worried if they touch him or whatever and something happens, they're gonna get sued. And so, I think there's a little bit of that vibe where it's like a little bit of bystander syndrome stuff going on where it's like, "Ah, do I help this person?" Can you—

25:41

Mason: would you be able to get sued over here? I don't know. Would you be?

25:43

Josh: Yes, yes, yes. As travellers? Yeah, yeah, definitely.

25:46

Mason: So, I reckon—

25:47

Tommy: I think you can come over here.

25:49

Mason: I just, I just wasn't sure if like, uh, no, yeah, if you have to be like a resident or—

25:54

Tommy: I, I just want to say that when you say ram, this isn't a little ramp to a McDonald's. This is a fucking 20 or 30 metre ramp that's like going up. It was weird that they— it was even a ramp. I thought when I— when we walked around the corner, it was a ramp for cars.

26:11

Josh: It seems like almost like something you'd see like going up, like cars would— It was a small bridge. Yeah, exactly. And so anyway, there's this guy and he's trying, he's holding on to the side of the ramp trying to slowly get down.

26:25

Tommy: In a wheelchair.

26:26

Josh: And so, yeah, so we were walking up, as we're walking up, my head went to, I think we should help that guy. And then when I said that, you said, hey mate, do you want a hand? He's like, "Oh yeah, thanks." And so, I actually don't know if he said thanks, but he's like, "Yes." And then you just sort of helped him down.

26:47

Tommy: Poor bugger, I went up to him and I said, "Yeah, mate, you alright? You need a hand?" He's like, "Yes, it's really hurting." And so I grabbed onto the back of his wheelchair and the tricep fat was just like overlapping onto my hand, sweaty, just chafing together. And I was like, at that point I felt his sweat and I was like, oh man, oh man. And so I had to push this poor bugger down the ramp and it was hard because I'm trying to hold, I'm trying to pull back as he goes down because if I let go he would have just been a nightmare. I thought halfway, I was like, what I was wondering—

27:24

Josh: Can I guess what you were thinking?

27:25

Tommy: What was I thinking?

27:26

Josh: Fuck, I don't know if Josh could have done this.

27:28

Tommy: Not at all. I was thinking, where the fuck were you two? Well, like, imagine if I let go.

27:33

Josh: Yeah, yeah, no, you guys could have been at the front. No, we didn't want to take away from your life. We didn't want to take it. It felt like it was a— you were— yeah, it felt like—

27:42

Tommy: what were you thinking, Mason?

27:43

Mason: Were you just—

27:43

Tommy: I mean, like, you could have come and given me a hand. Did you think about that? Uh, no.

27:49

Josh: Yeah, your cape was in the way.

27:51

Tommy: Yeah, you know I wear a suit, a onesie.

27:57

Josh: The cape comes off when I'm going to hell.

28:01

Mason: No, I mean, in all honesty, it wasn't actually a consideration when I was walking up.

28:07

Tommy: Like, you wouldn't have helped him?

28:08

Mason: No, I don't think so.

28:09

Tommy: What is that though? Like, because I honestly don't think I'm some fucking hero. There's a dog in a bag.

28:14

Josh: That's cute.

28:15

Tommy: Dog in a handbag. Um, that's it. Chihuahuas. That's another thing you see in Hollywood. Like, chihuahuas everywhere. Small dogs. Well, how can we get you in the mindset of helping people?

28:26

Mason: No, I think, I think, I think I do do that. I think I help people. But yeah, I don't know, for some reason maybe I wasn't paying attention. But when you— yeah, I mean, when you did it, there wasn't even a thought of being like, oh, I wonder if Tommy needs a hand.

28:39

Tommy: I honestly thought I need help at one point. I was like, I need these guys, because I was thinking— I started thinking, which I didn't think before I started, was if we picked up momentum He's not stopping.

28:51

Josh: I didn't want to overbake the help. It felt like a situation where there's an old lady walking across the street, you're like, here, help, and then we come in to—

29:01

Tommy: that's a one-person job, a 350-pound dude going down a ramp. But we did it safely. Yeah, because the funny thing is he never said thank you, which I didn't give a fuck about.

29:11

Josh: But we got to a point—

29:12

Tommy: no, we got to a point where I was like, how do we sort of let go? Am I gonna— I'll push him right down to the bottom. And he got to a point and he's like, alright, alright, let go, let go, because he wanted a bit of momentum. Momentum. Like, he got to a point where it was probably 2 metres before the bottom.

29:26

Mason: He picked up a bit of speed.

29:28

Tommy: Yeah, I let go.

29:29

Josh: I think he's still rolling. He's off to San Diego.

29:34

Tommy: It's good. Thanks, thanks for noticing.

29:36

Josh: And so I don't know where I was going with that, but it was— yeah, we went to there and then we did Laguna and we had the episode at Laguna Beach, which was beautiful.

29:46

Tommy: It was lovely. Anyway, the cafe is actually closing.

29:50

Josh: Okay, so we better head off. 97, I guess you don't have a— come up with a random fact without looking at your screen. Here we go, LA Fact of the Day with Mr. 97, completely out of nowhere.

30:06

Mason: Ad-lib.

30:06

Tommy: Make it up, no one knows.

30:08

Josh: No one knows.

30:09

Tommy: He's really thinking.

30:10

Mason: No, you know what I found interesting?

30:13

Tommy: Where all this—

30:14

Josh: Have you had your coffee, by the way? Keep drinking.

30:16

Mason: It's about an inch.

30:17

Tommy: Oh, that was pretty empty.

30:18

Mason: I've probably drunk maybe half a centimeter.

30:20

Josh: Well, let's have a look.

30:21

Mason: You can see from the coffee stain.

30:23

Josh: Oh, that's not— Can you just quickly skull it before this? I'm not skulking, I'm just going. Let's go, go. So he's drinking it. No, no, no, more, more, please. This is so ungrateful, mate.

30:34

Tommy: This is not peer pressure.

30:35

Josh: Nah, it's just a joke.

30:36

Tommy: Mate. We own you. No more $24 Whole Foods.

30:40

Josh: No, seriously, you owe us.

30:41

Tommy: No, please, quickly.

30:42

Josh: No, come on. If you're gonna have a first—

30:43

Mason: No, I can't actually skull it.

30:45

Josh: No, well, you should have just been drinking throughout. That's what I'm upset about. So he's taking another big sip and take another sip after that.

30:52

Tommy: Oh my God.

30:53

Josh: Do you remember the first time you ever had coffee, TJ? Keep going, 97. Um, I wanted to see the coffee.

30:58

Tommy: No, but there was a time where I needed to get into it. Like, if I don't know who comes out of the Gates just loving coffee. Because there's a break-in period. It's either in like Nescafé, we're using some shitty instant.

31:12

Josh: I never did instant. He's actually doing quite a good job. Keep going.

31:16

Tommy: He's good. He's gonna spew though.

31:17

Josh: No, he's not gonna spew. It's great quality coffee. Just don't do that face at the front here because people think that it's not good. Keep going. And then we'll get the LA factor. You give us a fact, Tommy.

31:30

Tommy: Have we said right on red?

31:34

Josh: No.

31:35

Tommy: Right on red. It's a rule. R&R. Wouldn't work in Australia. You'd have to be left on red. So when you're turning right, because you're on the right-hand side of the road, when you're at a red light, you can roll through the red light. You can drive through. There's no—

31:52

Josh: It's a fun fact. Aussies love it.

31:53

Tommy: Oh, it's great.

31:54

Josh: You and I were getting right behind it. Just like, ah.

31:56

Tommy: Right on, mate.

31:56

Josh: We're telling Mason.

31:58

Tommy: Yeah, but I reckon we should really wrap this up.

32:00

Josh: He's done a great job.

32:00

Tommy: These guys are gonna close up.

32:02

Josh: It's a daily talk show. We're trying to do every episode with just us this week as much as possible, and then next week we'll start rolling out all the guest episodes. We're having some fantastic guests, including Nick Stone will be joining us from Brewstone Lane Coffee coming up in the next week. Week or so.

32:23

Tommy: Are you fact?

32:25

Mason: I think, um, what I was going to say was I found— no, you know, there's no way to start a fact, but no, it's not really a fact, it's more of just an interesting thing. We'll be the judge. Have you— you've seen the place where all the school buses park?

32:38

Josh: The depot? Yes.

32:39

Mason: Yeah, but like, where's it— where's that in Melbourne?

32:43

Josh: Bus depots?

32:43

Mason: Yeah.

32:44

Tommy: Are you serious? That's not train depots? Yeah, no, train depots. Sandringham bus depot is next to Sandringham train depot. That's not—

32:51

Josh: I don't even know what— that's not even an observation. That's— what is that? You just said buses go somewhere at night, is that what you're saying?

32:57

Mason: Yeah, no, but I've never seen where they've all gone at once, and they have them— like I've seen— yeah, I've seen them.

33:03

Josh: Have you seen a train depot?

33:04

Mason: I've seen like 4 of them.

33:05

Tommy: 4 bus depots in a year.

33:06

Mason: Yeah, there's one in Kew.

33:06

Tommy: Okay, so they're everywhere.

33:07

Mason: Yeah, I've seen heaps.

33:08

Josh: So what do you think happens to— you think the bus drivers take them home and keep them in their driveway?

33:13

Tommy: Yeah.

33:13

Josh: Is in frango, just Living in Frankston, just annoying if you've got a bus driver that lives nearby. Parallel parking, taking out the whole street.

33:20

Tommy: Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. Today, our Uber experience. Oh yeah, I called the Uber, went out the front, and I was convinced I'd fucked it. I said to the guy who also had a passenger in the seat, I said, mate, sorry, have I ordered an Uber Pool? He said, no, no, I'm just showing this guy the ropes. I said, oh, we'll have to squash in the back then. Yeah, this Uber driver had a guy in the front seat.

33:47

Josh: Nice guy though.

33:48

Tommy: No, they were lovely in the end, but I mean, the guy who we met for lunch said give him a zero, zero stars for that.

33:54

Josh: Yeah, I don't think it's actually possible. It has to be one star. Anyway, it's a daily talk show. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you're enjoying the show, leave us an Apple Podcast review. And also, it's good fun having you guys on Instagram Live as well. So we're doing that as much as we can. We set up a little rig and plug it all in and so that you can actually hear the good audio. Yeah, outside of that, make sure you tag us on Insta Stories if you're enjoying the show and also share where you're listening. It's something fun. We're enjoying being out and about.

34:26

Tommy: Yeah.

34:27

Josh: And the fact is that you might be somewhere interesting right now out and about. And so if you're having a coffee somewhere You may be on a morning stroll, maybe you're on a flight, maybe you're 30,000 feet up in the air.

34:37

Tommy: Maybe you're sitting at a Bluestone Lane Cafe in the world.

34:43

Josh: Yeah, I mean, if you are, take a photo and put it on Instagram and tag us up. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow, guys. Have a good one.

34:49

Tommy: See you guys.

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