Today we're coming to you from Santa Monica beach! We chat about Mr. 97's birthday, Josh's bedtime routine and whether Tommy is using the Airbnb's dryer too much.
Show Notes
At a glance
From this episode’s transcript.
- –The hosts treat Friday as 'Fat Friday,' a recurring indulgent-meal tradition, here done at the Cheesecake Factory in Santa Monica.
- –Travelling as a vegetarian (Josh) creates friction around restaurant choices, with Tommy noting he's adapted meals around Josh despite personal cravings for meat.
- –Tommy and Josh have an ongoing dynamic where Tommy likes surprises/reveals while Josh prefers to know outcomes in advance (illustrated via a room-allocation 'testosterone' competition).
- –Mason describes using various sleep/wellness 'body hacks' (throat spray, phone checking, night shift), which Josh dismisses as largely placebo.
- –The group reflects on the emotional toll of travel - missing partners and family - while also valuing solo time away from the group.
Questions this episode answers
Where was episode 504 of The Daily Talk Show recorded?
It was recorded in Santa Monica, California, near the Santa Monica Pier, during a US trip by the hosts and producer Mason Lauder.
What is 'Fat Friday' on The Daily Talk Show?
It's a recurring tradition where the team treats themselves to an indulgent meal on Fridays; in this episode they went to the Cheesecake Factory for burritos/burgers followed by a giant slice of chocolate cheesecake.
Who is 'Mr. 97' on the show?
Mr. 97 is the nickname for producer Mason Lauder (referred to in canonical show info as George Martin), who travelled with Tommy and Josh on this US trip and whose birthday is also celebrated in this episode.
Episode TranscriptShow
Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 504.
Tommy: It's a little bit quieter than last night.
Josh: Now we're in the beautiful sunny Santa Monica, right next to the pier.
Tommy: Oh yeah, I mean, this is Baywatch territory right here. It's, um, 30 minutes to Malibu. And if you're watching this on Instagram Live or on YouTube, you can see like the the hills behind us. Are they the ones that got burnt in the fires?
Josh: The Malibu fires?
Tommy: Yeah. Also, happy birthday.
Josh: Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Tommy: We got you cake.
Josh: Happy birthday to you. Oh, it's fucking heavy.
Mason: Hang on.
Josh: It's a '97.
Mason: Is it still cold?
Josh: Happy birthday to you.
Tommy: Hip hip hooray.
Josh: Hip hip hooray. Hip hip hooray. So anyway, '97, we went to, it's Fat Friday. So it's Friday here in the US. Don't open it yet 'cause I want a surprise. It's Saturday in Melbourne.
Tommy: Isn't it Mason's birthday? Yeah.
Josh: But the thing was, the thing was that we went to the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah. Was the first time, Tommy, that you'd been?
Tommy: I went once before with Tommy D. Yeah. At the Grove in Hollywood. And yeah, we had a piece of cheesecake.
Mason: It was lovely.
Tommy: So, I've already been on a date there and this is my second date.
Josh: And so, for Fat Fridays we're trying to work out what to have, and I suggested that the burrito was very good. Mr. 97, you said you liked the idea.
Mason: Yeah, I loved the idea of a burrito.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: But when the burrito came out, you looked completely and utterly disappointed.
Mason: It was massive.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: It was the size of your torso, young Mr. 97.
Mason: Yeah, it would have been easily 30 centimetres long.
Josh: What size is your t-shirt, by the way?
Mason: Medium.
Josh: Medium. Okay, medium.
Tommy: I'm getting medium.
Mason: What do you reckon?
Josh: Yeah, well, it just looks like a— no, it looks like a kid's top. Like when we took the photo, the burrito looks bigger than you.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: And so, it had some beautiful black beans on the side, some guacamole.
Tommy: The funny thing about these restaurants or that restaurant is that next to every meal is the calorie content. So, that was one of the highest. What was that? Like 1,800?
Mason: Yeah, I think it was 1,800.
Tommy: So, 1,800 calories in a burrito. I mean, 2,000 is your daily—
Mason: Like the daily sort of—
Josh: Yeah, about 2,200. But the thing was that the outrageousness of this place, they even have a Skinnylicious menu, which is sort of like low-cal options.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: But it's turning out to be extremely hard for me, I think, to find vegetarian options.
Tommy: What's hard for you, baby, is hard for us because we've literally geared every meal around you. No, no, no, it's actually— I'm actually enjoying it. Have you noticed that I'm not giving you heaps of pushback and I'm being really supportive of your vegetarianism?
Josh: Well, yeah, I mean, I appreciate it.
Tommy: I mean, it is actually a thing because I'm literally— I walked to— last night we filmed quite late here in LA and we didn't get home and we're doing the episode. And so we were ravenous. We hadn't eaten anything since lunchtime and our lunchtime was at 11:30 AM. So we did it early. But I walked to a supermarket that was closed. I walked another 30 minutes. Nothing was open.
Josh: What were you going to get if I wasn't vegetarian?
Tommy: Mexican. I was going to get Mexican.
Josh: Well, the thing is Mexican is great. You got beans, you have rice.
Tommy: I see what you're saying. What were you going to get if you were eating meat?
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: It probably would have been more around the burger. There was a hot dog stand that I walked past.
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: Yeah. Just some really easy shitty meals, but I have been supportive. And so anyway, this, um, you walked out of the restaurant cause you couldn't bear to pay a second time.
Josh: Oh no. So we had the meal. Did you enjoy the burrito?
Mason: I did. It was great tasting. It's just 20 centimetres too long.
Josh: Yeah, I've heard that before. But the, um, I had the Beyond Burger, so I didn't realise they had Beyond Burger.
Mason: Impossible.
Tommy: Impossible. It's impossible.
Josh: Sorry, Impossible Burger. Um, I didn't realise they had that because the menus in these places are so long that I never actually read. Like, I'm just sort of scanning and I asked the girl, I'm like, can I get the burrito with vegetarian?
Tommy: Is it a Is it the sign of a tourist trap restaurant or some kind of very common frequent— It's like a restaurant within a supermarket or like a big complex like Chadstone. Is it the sign—
Josh: A lot of options.
Tommy: When there's a lot of options that the restaurant is like, it's a bit kāne.
Josh: Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, there was definitely heaps. And I make this mistake a lot, which is asking the waiter or waitresses if I care what they think. And so, I asked her. What she thought, and she said, "Oh no, don't make the burrito vegetarian." Well, we created, we committed carbicide, and it's Fat Friday, so it's okay.
Tommy: But then we got cake on the way out.
Josh: And so what you were saying was, we, you did the classic thing, a very Tommy Jackett move, which is you're telling everyone it's Mr. 97's birthday.
Mason: What?
Tommy: I don't know, that's not a bad thing, is it?
Josh: It paid off. Well, when we were at Whole Foods, you were singing as we were leaving.
Tommy: I was happy.
Josh: And you said, Everyone sing along. Did you notice no one sung along?
Tommy: Yeah, that's why, because people were looking like I was a bit of a weirdo. I felt like I needed to sort of invite everyone in, which didn't work. Yeah, it didn't work.
Josh: But anyway, and so you decided— so after all said, everything was said and done, they did give Mr. 97 a little like chocolate mousse thing and they sung him happy birthday.
Tommy: You got to— there's a place on Victoria Street that has now closed down. Not sure why. It was Thai 2. Thai 2, yeah. And so it was in this upstairs restaurant, blue colourful Vietnamese joint. Lovely, lovely staff, cheap as shit. So it was great. You just go there, get hungover food. I went there on my birthday, actually 2012 when I got back from LA. 2012, great year. Great year, one of the best years.
Josh: Do you reckon we'll look back in 30 years and say 2019 was a good year?
Tommy: Nah, I reckon we'll still say 2012, good year.
Josh: Yeah, I think 2019 is a good year.
Tommy: 2012, think back, what were you doing? Was it a good year? And have we found something like— is 2012 collectively quite a great year?
Josh: Or does it just take 7 years to forget the sort of credit card debt you're in?
Tommy: There was a lot of money being spent on, on dumb shit.
Josh: A lot of, uh, I could imagine you buying whole bottles of alcohol, mate, to try and impress people.
Tommy: Oh, at nightclubs?
Mason: Yeah.
Tommy: Well, we paid to get into clubs, so sometimes you can't actually get in unless you're gonna buy alcohol. And so you have to buy a bottle to get in to sit somewhere and drink.
Josh: How do they actually— how does that transaction work?
Tommy: You pay before you go in, so you pay upfront for the bottle. And then the bottle's somewhere.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Or it's with you at a booth. And so then you're pouring out. Anyway, I was spending a lot of money. Where was I going with that?
Josh: So you were talking about you're in Victoria Street.
Tommy: Oh yeah, Victoria Street. And so If you go there and people started just taking the piss, tell them it's your birthday because what they brought out was a huge banana fried with 2 scoops of ice cream. So it looked like a big penis and they thought it was so good and we thought it was so funny. And so I got a big penis for my birthday.
Josh: Yeah, I mean, well, the birthday thing, I felt like Maria, our server, as soon as you sort of, because you made it very clear upfront, you're like, She said, would you like any drinks? You're like, well, first things first, it's our mate's birthday today.
Tommy: Hang on, are we taking away that I want to make him feel special? Are you feeling special today, Sis?
Mason: I do feel, yeah.
Josh: Do you feel that those, like, when Tommy does those sorts of things, do you feel that it is trying to make you feel special?
Mason: Well, no, because sometimes it pays off, so it's okay. Like, it doesn't—
Tommy: Potato, we got one of two.
Mason: Today paid off.
Tommy: I got one out of two. One out of two.
Josh: Okay, alright. That's fine. So anyway, we got that. You got a little sundae. We all had a bite of it, which was yum. Then we were leaving and Tommy, I was saying let's do ice cream for Fat Fridays. A little bit hard logistically. It takes us a while to set up all the camera. Yeah. So, good work tonight, by the way. Yeah, it's— we've done okay. So, cheesecake.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: I don't know what flavour. I was FaceTiming Bree. Okay. It's currently raining if you're in Melbourne.
Tommy: Mr. Nicevz, what, um, I'll throw it to you. What did we do? How do we navigate this plethora of cheesecakes on offer?
Josh: And then I want to, and then I want to guess what I would have, have gone.
Mason: Okay, okay. Well, we decided, as everything on the menu, they had the calories next to the chocolate cake.
Josh: Sure. Oh, did you just fuck it? The chocolate cheesecake?
Mason: Cheesecake.
Josh: Cheesecake. Everything's—
Mason: anyway, so it had the calories, you know why?
Josh: Chocolate cake didn't give it away, your reaction. The disappointment in yourself. Yeah, go on.
Mason: So they had the calories next to it, so we sort of scanned through, and originally I picked one that was probably like 1,400 calories.
Josh: Wait, is that for the whole cake or is that a single slice? Just a slice.
Mason: Is it— was it a slice?
Tommy: It's not whole cake. It's a slice. Whole cake would be 12, whatever.
Mason: And so, and then Tommy spotted one up the back and he was like, oh, have a look at that. And so That's the one that we went with.
Josh: And was it the highest calorie?
Tommy: Yeah, highest calorie. And when he saw it, he said yes. Okay, so I just saw, oh, what about the highest calorie one?
Josh: Then he looked under, oh my, because I normally couldn't see, I would have said like a Reese's peanut butter one.
Tommy: They literally, yeah, he thought that, so he was thinking, oh, maybe that one. I said, but I've had a lot of peanut butter already today.
Josh: Have we got a fork? But it's 4.97 first, so you just try. Okay, you were about to, here we go. So we'll turn it. Oh, I mean, you can smell it. Oh, it looks like a big deuce. Let me smell it.
Tommy: Let Josh hold it. If you drop that.
Josh: I'm just trying to show the camera.
Tommy: Yeah, if you can see, I'll take a photo now. I'll take a photo of it.
Josh: That's huge. Hold it up. Is it got caramel in it?
Tommy: I don't know, but it's got, it's got, it's absolutely ginormous. Anyway.
Josh: Great. Okay. So can we eat some now?
Tommy: Yes.
Josh: Yes. Okay. Let's just try it. So 97, you go first.
Tommy: Go big boy.
Mason: Big scoop for baby.
Tommy: No, bigger than that. Come on, come on, get into it. Get into it. Get me one.
Josh: Okay, I'm getting forks.
Tommy: Oh, he's into it, he's into it.
Josh: Okay, here we go.
Tommy: So you go, Josh.
Josh: I'll do you a solid. All right, hang on.
Tommy: 1,700 calories.
Josh: 1,700 calories. All right, what's the chance that I can do 3?
Tommy: No, it wasn't 2,000, it was 1,700.
Josh: Do you reckon I could do 300 in one mouth?
Tommy: Mate.
Mason: Yeah. Oh my god.
Tommy: It's not the time, not the first time you've said that. I don't know what that means, but anyway, this is great. Sevs, maybe pull out Instagram, see if there's any babies on there. You don't need to hold it over the bowl. Good?
Josh: It tastes like chocolate mousse.
Tommy: It's amazing. You need to move that way for framing.
Josh: What one was it?
Mason: It was a chocolate—
Tommy: oh, hang on, I've got the receipt.
Josh: Oh, okay, great.
Mason: I can't remember what it was.
Josh: Like, for people playing at home, what does a slice of cheesecake cost?
Tommy: Uh, $11.
Josh: $11 bucks. Not too bad.
Tommy: So what we got here, guys, if I talk into the microphone, um, credit card.
Mason: I think that's the wrong receipt.
Tommy: Oh, look, it doesn't matter.
Josh: So '97, we went to Santa Monica purely because— oh yeah, you want your fork? Santa Monica because it was on your bucket list, some place that you wanted to go to.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: What do you think?
Mason: It's sick. It's—
Tommy: it's—
Josh: how would you describe it for people who haven't been to Santa Monica before?
Mason: Well, the main reason I wanted to see it was because it's in all of the movies that you watch.
Josh: Which movies?
Mason: Well, it's in— pretty sure it's in Baywatch. This is where they did Baywatch. But also, um—
Josh: You have a bit of tummy confidence because you've been saying it, but you've only just declared that it might not be the case.
Mason: It has to be Baywatch.
Tommy: I'm pretty sure. TV show.
Mason: I remember Zac Efron like jumping off the—
Josh: The chocolate cake, by the way, is really sticking to our cracked lips.
Tommy: Yeah, that's why I put it down.
Josh: So it looks like you've eaten an asshole for your birthday. But go on. So yeah, to describe it, describe the location. What sort of characters? What sort of— what is there to do?
Mason: A lot of characters. It's sort of like, uh, Luna Park, but more public, and people are sort of like on steroids. Not steroids, but people are on steroids. No, no, but literally, it's Luna Park on steroids.
Tommy: I wasn't expecting that.
Mason: It's open.
Josh: Yeah, definitely.
Mason: Like, there are people on— it's sort of like slacklining. There's a whole workout area. So you got like—
Josh: yeah, you did the whole rings thing. You were actually doing, uh, what's that called?
Tommy: Like hand rings. It's like gym ring, gymnastics rings, and he was swinging between them. It's— there's a lot of content going out on Insta if you typed in Santa Monica Workout Park or something.
Josh: How crazy, um, uh, how crazy was last, last night, by the way?
Tommy: Oh, the Halloween joint.
Josh: Whoa.
Tommy: I mean, we didn't get to sleep till pretty late.
Josh: Yeah, it was about midnight.
Tommy: It really got me buzzing. Like, I don't think I would have been able to have that energy. Like, I was watching some of that video back. Yeah, of the episode. The thing is, I used to— these kids, I feel like we're creating a similar environment to this group of friends that I used to hang out with when I was young.
Josh: Okay, interesting.
Tommy: Pretty bad. One of them's now in jail, one of them's dead, but they were lovely guys.
Josh: Was it literally 3 of you and 2 of them?
Tommy: Oh yeah, the 3 of us used to hang out quite a bit, but it was always just fucking ripping into each other. It was like—
Josh: what was the appeal? What, like, what was the mates? We were young.
Tommy: I think it's Maybe this is why I'm not friends with them now. Definitely one of them I'm not friends with. Like, you move away from each other because you're like, you're friendly when you're young, but they're not the solid mates.
Josh: But what was the appeal? Was it the adventure?
Tommy: Yeah, we used to go on adventures, do fun shit, steal shit, you know, explore.
Josh: But it was feeling a bit like that last night?
Tommy: Feeling a bit like that in terms of, uh, not so this dynamic of like ripping into each other and it all being banter. So, it's not really malicious. You could look at it as, but sometimes it can feel malicious because it's, we're ripping into each other constantly.
Josh: Do you think, I reckon maybe what you're feeling is, I feel like I normally get ripped on, but I think 97 has a great balance and he loves my banter. And so, I think that there is a potential that given the power dynamic or where the testosterone lies, Mr. 97 enjoys antagonising you more because there's more fun.
Tommy: It doesn't matter.
Josh: Whereas if you both were to punch down on me, I don't know how productive that would be.
Tommy: Or he doesn't punch down on you because he knows you are a big baby and will fight back.
Josh: That's what I'm saying.
Tommy: Have a hissy fit.
Josh: Potentially. Which one is it?
Mason: No, I feel like I do both.
Tommy: So you've hit the nail on the head. He likes to go both ways.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Is that what you're saying?
Josh: Mix and match.
Tommy: I mean, mix and match. Mr. 97 loves to go both ways. In ripping us apart. That sounds even worse. But there was one thing last night I was looking at. When I get like in a moment where there's lots happening, my head starts to move a bit.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: And these two guys that I used to hang out with would give me shit. And it's like the worst thing is when you're getting given shit about something that is so normal to you, like you don't even know you do it.
Josh: Yeah. You're just like, well, you were doing that to me only on Thursday. In the office with Mr. 97 saying the exact thing. I'm always looking at Mr. 97.
Mason: Yeah. How's your neck?
Josh: Yeah.
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: That's okay.
Tommy: Oh, but I know. No, no, no. Are you saying that that's the same as what I—
Josh: No, I—
Tommy: You do that as a like looking over at Mr. 97 for validation about giving me shit. So it's like literally evidence of you trying to get sided to have— Look at— And the smirk on his face is— That's exactly what I'm doing is what Josh is thinking. So it's not the same. You just served up the evidence.
Josh: Sleeping last night. I pride myself on sleeping really well.
Tommy: Can I just say I slept really well because I won the double bed.
Josh: Yeah, well, you didn't win it, we just gave it to you, to be honest.
Tommy: What, did we?
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Did we not announce the prize at the 500th?
Josh: The testosterone thing, we knew where it was going to go. So we, yeah, we actually, I did. I saw the, I saw Goldie Guts's email, remember? I saw the, I saw the result. I knew what your one was going to be.
Tommy: The fuck, that's one of your worst traits is that you need to know even if it's It's a surprise.
Josh: Well, the thing I felt like you, you being so high, because you were 27.
Tommy: Something, something.
Josh: So the idea of Mr. 97 or myself being over 27 was extremely unlikely.
Tommy: Okay. But you still loved it. You still love to look at it.
Josh: Oh yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, it makes sense.
Tommy: No, but Amy's the same. I like want to give her something or have something or I like, no, please.
Josh: Or maybe you're trying to hold things back from people.
Tommy: No, no, no, these are usually around surprises when we're needing to— It's like a surprise, like I'm hiding something to be able to reveal it. Maybe I like surprises a lot and then you like knowing. So they're like the counter of two things where one's like, you know, trying to be like, yes, this is— Yes, he's going to love this. But maybe you don't like it. So no more surprises for Jacko.
Josh: So we're in— 97andhi were in two single beds in the back area of the Airbnb. How am I as a roommate?
Mason: You know, you playing your audiobook for 15-minute timer. Yeah, yeah, that was all right. Yeah, I went to sleep immediately doing that.
Tommy: Yeah, you slept from like from the words, it made you feel sleepy.
Josh: Ryan Holiday talking.
Mason: He's got a sleepy voice, doesn't he? Like it's a nice relaxing voice.
Josh: And the thing is you're not listening to the start, you're listening like wherever I'm at. So you're just sort of entering into that and thinking Just giving you something to think about.
Mason: I mean, I didn't remember any of it.
Josh: Yeah, I don't— well, it sinks in deep. You don't need to necessarily—
Tommy: Does it?
Josh: Maybe.
Mason: Do you know roughly what he talked about, what the chapter was?
Josh: I know the title of the book. That's about as far as I know.
Tommy: Ego is the Enemy.
Josh: Yeah, I know it's pushing back on that, but no, I woke up at 4 AM, which I don't normally wake up during the night, but there were these— with our window, there was this really bright light. And what I thought first off was, remember when we were in New York, the way the Airbnb was set up was there also like connected apartments. So, you can— you actually, if you went through a door, it would actually be someone else's apartment.
Tommy: Yeah. So, sometimes, I don't— maybe sometimes they rent out it as a big place.
Josh: Yeah, exactly. A big place. And so, last night what I thought was happening was All I could see was this fogged window, and I was thinking that there was someone in another room next door, and the reason it was fogged was because it doesn't lead to the outside, it leads to another room. And so, I was like, it was a bit of a headfuck. I got up and I was like trying not to make noise. I was going around and I looked at— went through the kitchen, looked out the back, and I worked out that it was a big floodlight that had a sensor, and every time the wind moved the trees, the light would go and basically completely illuminate our room.
Tommy: Yeah, that's very annoying. I noticed it before I went to bed, but I think I was knocked out. And you, did you wake up when he did that?
Josh: No. Did you wake up at all? Did you do a wee during the night or no?
Mason: 5 o'clock.
Tommy: You did a wee?
Mason: I woke you up when I went.
Josh: Really?
Mason: Yeah.
Josh: What did I say?
Mason: Um, you asked me if I remembered any of the lights.
Tommy: No, I thought he said, "Bree, where's my coffee?" That's very good.
Mason: I will say though, like, you You, before you—
Josh: Yeah, a little bit.
Mason: Oh, really?
Josh: Snore? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What sort of snoring?
Mason: Well, it sounds like it's verging on like sleep apnea sort of snoring.
Tommy: What, did it sound like that seal we just saw at the end of the Santa Monica Pier?
Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the seal.
Tommy: Grrr! I just saw this seal and this guy like literally like saying—
Josh: His handler.
Tommy: I don't know if it was.
Mason: It must have been.
Josh: No, he had a polo shirt and short shorts.
Tommy: He was definitely a handler. Fresh out of SeaWorld.
Mason: Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah, you do.
Josh: Well, that's not good. I have a feeling it could have something to do with just the flying and even like this morning, I found the big— like, you know, when your nose is feeling like it's being tickled and then you realise that you've created— it feels like it's beyond snot because it's dried up so much.
Tommy: What is it then?
Josh: Well, it is snot, but it's like—
Mason: It's all hardened. It's like a rock in there.
Josh: You've missed it so much that like, oh, is this a pebble? And it turns out like you pull like a real big— and so I had that. So maybe that potentially was what was causing it.
Tommy: My nose was so dry after that flight. 14 hours in reconditioned air just gets you real dry. Yeah.
Mason: I mean, your bedtime habit or your nighttime routine is horrendous.
Josh: Yeah. What is it?
Mason: It was like, it was what?
Josh: I only wanked what, twice? No, that was a joke.
Tommy: You've gone real sick over here, mate. What has this side of the world done to you? Is it last night seeing Gimp in the chain?
Josh: Is that about the things that TJ said already? I thought a wanking joke is pretty low level.
Tommy: What did I say on this podcast?
Josh: That's right. We don't want to get bogged down. No, so what's my ritual? What's my routine?
Mason: What do I do? Well, brushing your teeth. Great. Good one.
Josh: Yeah, not weird at all.
Mason: No, exactly. Perfect.
Josh: You were trolling me because I didn't have an electric toothbrush.
Mason: Mate, you need one of those.
Tommy: I don't have one.
Mason: No, you need— they're $30.
Tommy: I know, but at least I brush my fucking teeth.
Mason: Yeah, so anyway, anyway, no, so you, yeah, you brush your teeth, which is good, but as soon as you hop into bed, you put your phone right next to your bed. You don't even have night mode, night shift on your phone.
Josh: I reckon all of that bullshit is a placebo.
Tommy: I actually tried to take a photo of you, and you encouraged him to use that spray on his takeout.
Josh: You were spraying it. I saw you on the plane.
Mason: I didn't spray last night. I did spray on the plane though.
Josh: Okay, whatever. I saw you talking about it. I was sleeping. I saw you I saw you on the plane and you were illuminating this strong red color. And I tried to take a photo, but you couldn't see it anywhere. But I do feel like all of these, all the things that you were doing, these body hacks are all just placebos.
Tommy: Well, you know what? If you cannot sleep and you have severe sleep problems, it's like then you look for these. But you are a beast. You can sleep. I just sleep in.
Josh: He was on.
Mason: Every single— sorry. Checked Simplecast Analytics.
Josh: So that's our podcast host, yes.
Mason: Then he went on to Instagram.
Josh: How long?
Mason: Checking DMs, just swiping through, just sussing everything out. Then, oh, 14 notifications on LinkedIn.
Josh: Yeah, that's a lot for LinkedIn. How— who's speaking to me? It turns out Jay Mueller had tagged us in a post.
Tommy: Oh yeah.
Josh: And so that had shown. But yeah, I did do a lot. And I felt more aware. Bree is just as bad with her phone, so we just sort of scroll together. But this was the thing, 97. I actually thought when I woke up, I thought that that light that I was seeing was coming from your phone. So when I first got up, I was going to turn your phone face down so that it would stop illuminating. Was it already face down?
Mason: No.
Josh: I didn't even find the phone because I realised that it was outside the window. Yeah.
Tommy: Hey, I was wondering, In LA, do you think— so in Melbourne, you go to a cafe, a lot of the like small talk with baristas or, you know, anyone for that matter at the tram stop, on the bus, is, "Oh, how about this weather?" So, it's like either sunny or really rainy in Melbourne. So, there'll be a lot of people today in Melbourne going, "Mate, can't believe it's nearly summer and it's pouring rain." Like small talk. Here in LA, It's the exact same weather, like, a lot of the year. Do you reckon it's non-existent in their sort of small talk?
Josh: Yeah, unless it gets really, really hot or if it rains.
Tommy: But like, so right now we could have a lot of small talk in Melbourne about this.
Josh: Yeah.
Tommy: Like, yeah, this is lovely.
Josh: Yeah, I feel like a lot of tourists would potentially be doing that.
Tommy: They'd go to it, but then locals, it's like, yeah, so what?
Josh: No, no, I get that. Have you been speaking— Have you guys been speaking to many people? As in on your phone back in Melbourne?
Tommy: My wife. Last night called her. It's like the hard thing is we'd need to go to bed at like 12 o'clock if I wanted to get a quick 10 minutes in after she finishes work at 5, because it's like 5 o'clock around then. Spoke to her then, message, FaceTime today, and Bodie said happy birthday. Happy birthday, Mace Dog.
Josh: That was nice. Who have you been speaking to, 97?
Tommy: Have you texted your mum?
Josh: Spoke to mum.
Mason: Yep. Call or text? Text. Actually, it was Facebook Messenger. And then Jamesy's doing his exams at the moment, so he finished his English one the other day. Amazing. And so I just wished him good luck and told him how proud I am of him.
Josh: Yeah, great.
Tommy: Do you miss it? Do you actually miss anyone? If you got it, you feel like that? Have you ever felt that?
Mason: Not yet. No, no, no, because I haven't, I haven't been away long enough.
Tommy: It's an interesting one, traveling. Like, do you, have you had a time in your life where you've really missed somebody? Like—
Josh: You're talking to me?
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Yeah, I miss Bree. I felt the funny thing is on this trip, like I've done—
Tommy: Oh, that was a real trap question, wasn't it?
Josh: If you didn't answer the way you're about to. No, but I did 3 months or whatever and was going to miss Bree then, but I was so excited about the 3 months. Getting on this flight, like when I was in the air, I was excited, but I was also like dreading the fact that I wasn't going to see Bree. Like I was actually thinking about like, ah, how cool would it be if she was here and doing all that, like doing the same stuff and hanging out and all that.
Tommy: It's funny. Amy said to me last night, I mean, we're going away for 10 days. So in hindsight, like, right, like it's not epic, but you can still feel these ways. And what I found interesting yesterday when Amy said, when we were texting last night, she said something like, oh, you're living your dream or something like that. It's super sweet. It's like, 'Enjoy living your dream, my darling,' or something like that. And I was thinking, it's not like— it is our dream. Like, I feel like 2 years ago, 3 years ago, thinking about this now would be like, 'Oh my God, that's the life.' But it's always different when you get to it. Yeah, I love this, but I was like thinking, I said to her, 'I feel like there's a bit missing doing this and not having you along with it,' because they're there so often supporting when we're at home. Like, fucking got, you know, like the support They're an anchor, and then when you go away, it's like, I would find it seriously hard, I think, doing long, long time away.
Josh: Yeah, yeah. 97, has it changed your perspective on travelling over the last couple of days?
Mason: Yeah, I mean, I haven't, I haven't actually travelled much. Like, I've gone with mum and dad to like Europe and stuff, and we've gone as a family. Yeah, it's a whole different thing going with like not your family, like mates or— yeah, it's great. I love it.
Josh: Yeah, I mean, what's been the— what was the biggest misconception that you had, or what's one of the things that was, um, that you've discovered on this trip?
Tommy: I don't know, that people actually existed without electric toothbrushes. Oh my God, I'm travelling with these two guys that don't have electric toothbrushes.
Josh: Well, Beard of Fen pointed out that like his favourite line was Americans are so American.
Tommy: Yeah.
Josh: Something that you potentially said. I mean, a lot of people do say when they come to the US, I don't know whether this is just a cop-out, I feel like they'll say, "I'm just craving vegetables or salad." Yeah. Do you think that—?
Mason: No, I think that's fair. Yeah. It like, it seems, it feels hard to— because everything's like fast food, like a lot of it's fast food. And all the food places are like burgers, meats, all that sort of stuff. So when it comes to getting like veggies or a salad, it's—
Tommy: Yeah. Imagine if we took the baby to New York. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of salty food there.
Josh: A lot of bagels, a lot of pizza. I mean, I think that the also the car culture, driving around everywhere doesn't help. If you're in a city where you can be walking constantly, spend your whole day out and about, it's a bit different.
Tommy: This is probably one of the easier places to eat lean based on just all the fit and good-looking, healthy people here. Like, it's this— that fitness culture exists. It's all driven around appearance. So it's, you know, some of it's quite vain.
Josh: So where's next on the bucket list for you guys? Where do we want to go next in LA?
Tommy: I need to flag this, which isn't really team player-esque.
Josh: Oh, this is unlike me.
Tommy: Here we go. I was thinking, I don't get to do this at home much. I wouldn't mind to go out by myself. Yeah. It's not like not to meet anyone. No, I went to walk to get us food, but I mean like go out. Sure. Because I like— I actually don't mind travelling sometimes by myself. As much as I miss people, I also like a few moments where I can— it's just like being in your own head, listening to music, going to some kind of diner or restaurant, just having a little meal. So I was thinking maybe next week on one of the nights.
Josh: What are you going to do?
Tommy: What about if we all part ways and we all go and do it?
Josh: We all go. 97 and I can go do something.
Tommy: What about if we all have to go out by ourselves? We're big boys and we— I'm trying to think. We go and have dinner? What do you want to do? Do whatever you want to do. It's a night off. What would you do?
Josh: I don't know. Have a little sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to work out. I like it. Mornings suit me better. I like the idea of going for a walk in the morning, like doing an early morning thing. Yeah, evenings, I'm not like a nightlife guy, so it's like, what am I going to, uh, so I walk somewhere, I get food.
Tommy: So we've got a car, you could drive and go on a little mission, you could go and do your own thing, go for a hike by yourself. I mean, you guys are just creeping towards me, by the way.
Mason: Which is fine. That way, there we go. Um, I mean, if there was, I would, I would probably just go find like a gym and a sauna.
Tommy: That'd be my— and then a tanning bed in the laundry. Yeah, let's just get his gym tan laundry done.
Josh: Well, I mean, we've still got a bunch of days here. No, we've got a long—
Tommy: yeah, we've got a long stint.
Josh: So if you do have any suggestions on what we should do, go to our Instagram account, uh, The Daily Talk Show on Instagram. We've been posting a lot of Insta stories, including that burrito. Uh, what else have we posted?
Tommy: You'll see the cake that, um, all the happy stuff. Also Mr. 97 absolutely annihilating the rings. The muscle in the muscle park. He killed it.
Josh: Well done, son. We should— let's also tomorrow get on the emails because we've got a few emails that we need to read. Michelle sent us a lovely email about episode 500, and Shannon has sent a beautiful email. Also got 2 reviews. Oh yeah, we've got to get to all of those.
Tommy: Yeah, well, we'll do an episode from our apartment, which you'll be able to— yeah, then see our—
Josh: I feel like you're going too heavy as well on the, the dryer. Why? What does that mean? You're just putting the dryer on for everything. But why?
Mason: But no, but how much—
Tommy: Dude, when you don't do laundry, you can't comment on laundry.
Josh: I did my laundry before I came. Oh, that's nice. And so you rocked up to LA with laundry that you need to do. I just did mine like 3 days before. Yeah. So, but what I'm saying is I feel like—
Tommy: I was organising F500.
Josh: I feel like you can't eat naughty food. I feel like he's doing what I do. I feel like you're using the dry— you're taking the piss a little bit of the dryer.
Tommy: That's like saying you can't— don't use the shower too much in a hotel because you're taking advantage of the shower. What's the— what's wrong with doing it? Well, they may have electricity. Is it a battery problem? Well, are you serious? You're doing what?
Josh: You're doing a night? Yeah, well, because I just feel like—
Tommy: I'll have a rent of an Airbnb.
Josh: Yeah, I think the environment Yeah, it's the environment. I'm thinking—
Tommy: Oh, fuck off. That's the most lefty fucking—
Josh: No, I think that you could probably— there's a less consciousness given you are the aircon guy, the one who's very funny about the aircon being on at the office and all that sort of thing. It's just— it struck me.
Tommy: Are you honestly feeling that?
Josh: No, it struck me that I was like, oh my God, I can't believe— I'm like, oh, this is— I guess this is almost like a bit of a luxury because the amount, like, would you ever do that at home? Have you done 2 in 2 days? Well, I've just seen every single time, every single time I've been on, I've heard it going and we're only less than, we're like 24 hours in the Airbnb.
Tommy: How much, like, I just don't think this is logical. I don't think this is actually sensical what you're saying.
Mason: Could have you batched it into one load?
Tommy: No, not at all, because I got that shit on my jeans and I did one wash and I was fucked.
Josh: Maybe more people do it. I've never had a dryer. As an adult, always because I've heard about the energy around using them. So I've always had the inside clothesline, clothes horse. Yeah, which we don't have. Where's one of those? I don't know. I don't know. Look, if you're that keen on it, then—
Tommy: I just want clean, dry clothes. No, that's okay. Mohad, who's given us the place, actually he hasn't given us, we've paid him a shitload of cash.
Josh: Yeah. I wonder if he'll see this. See the bill.
Tommy: Definitely not from— oh my God, we are charging a lot of batteries as well. Nah, if I run my spa 24 hours a day, it's not gonna— it's not affecting old mate that's making 4 grand a week for a call.
Josh: Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Feel free to send us an email. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.
Tommy: See you guys.
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