Trivia & Snitching With Josh's Bro

Jake: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 491.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Jake Jansen is in the building.

Josh: Fun guy with the New Balance basketball. Is that some form of, um, campaign that they're doing?

Jake: Um, so the fun guy thing is, uh, Kawhi Leonard, a basketball player, he's signed by New Balance, but he's actually like a really sort of boring guy, like the way he speaks. He's quite boring. But, uh, when he got traded to the Raptors, he, uh, had like a press conference and they're like, oh, is there anything you want to tell us about you? He's like, uh, I'm a fun guy. It was just—

Josh: was he being funny?

Jake: It's hard to tell. He's one of those guys.

Josh: But New Balance picked it up and turned it—

Jake: yeah, yeah, yeah. To be honest, I actually don't know if this is like a legit New Balance because he had, um— it's not. This isn't— this isn't like— this is just like an— just an internet thing. I just thought it was hilarious.

Josh: Where'd you get it from? The internet, Etsy or something, something like that.

Jake: Yeah.

Tommy: Can you look at, see if we can get a Fun Guy t-shirt, Mr. 97? You bet. See if they actually released it and how much it was. How much did you pay?

Jake: Oh, like $20.

Tommy: Yeah. Nice.

Josh: I mean, I did, I bought a t-shirt that was a photo of Louis Theroux, the documentarian, and it said, um, bae. That's like a love heart. There's something fun about the novelty sort of t-shirts.

Tommy: Yeah, it's very cute. So, uh, if you've, if you're watching or listening, this is Josh Janson's Brother.

Josh: Middle brother. I'm the youngest.

Jake: Yeah, I'm the middle.

Tommy: And now this is completing the full brother circle.

Josh: Oh yeah, we had James on. That would have been early days. Yeah, pre-hundred.

Jake: Can't believe James got on before me though.

Tommy: Well, no, we have to get him on because he's not— doesn't live in this country.

Josh: This is true.

Tommy: You've been around. We've asked you to come on, but your management has finally said it's okay.

Josh: Yeah, he doesn't listen to money.

Tommy: Something I had— I had a realisation when I was looking at our tickets for our live show, which is sold out, so you can't get any more. Sorry about that. Um, your mum got one, so your mum's coming, you're coming. But what I noticed was your mum has a domain, thejansons.com.au.

Jake: Yeah.

Tommy: And then I thought, hang on, fuck me, Josh, Jake, James, you're the Australian Kardashians. Kylie, Kendall, There's more.

Josh: There's Courtney.

Jake: Courtney.

Tommy: Good. Yeah, you're the Australian Kardashians, but the Bogan version.

Mason: I wonder if the emails went— I'm just thinking, did the email go through?

Josh: Yeah, so we've been doing a big server migration, and what happened was all of my, uh, all my hobby sort of email, like, uh, websites that I have, or friends, I'll get them onto my server so they don't have to pay anything and I pay it. And Mr. 97 the other day asked, oh, can I just update the server? It was just like, oh yeah, like as in press the button. Yeah, okay. He presses the button, the whole server goes down. Yeah, right. Not just goes down, but when we contacted the web host there and 97 said, hey, we're having some issues, they're like, hey, here's some recovery software, basically good luck. Yeah, and good luck. And '97, you weren't really equipped to be able to use the recovery software.

Tommy: Baby had a few late nights. He was up at 12, 2, 4.

Josh: Well, that wasn't even then, because what happened was the websites just went down. And so then we had a crisis meeting where we're like, hey, the big media company Full Stack Films, all these websites are down. Uh, now we could either fix it on our current server, our current solution, or we can move Baby 97 from the responsibility of managing the whole server thing, keeping it updated. We pay a bunch more and we go for a web host that's in Narre Warren. They're in Narre Warren.

Tommy: Oh, it is actually in Narre?

Josh: Yeah, I think I looked them up. I think I saw it on LinkedIn.

Mason: I think they are.

Josh: And so anyway, because they look very familiar, they all— all those guys look like I went to school with them.

Tommy: But anyway, polo tops and muscles.

Josh: Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: Work in IT.

Josh: And so anyway, what ended up happening, not only did our websites go down through the transition, there was a few things that happened and big media companies' emails stopped working. And then Bree's dad, who has a web, just sort of set up a basic website for him. It just so happened that he tried to show a client his website and not only did it not show anything, it had just showed this like Josh Jansen page. And so it was not a good look.

Tommy: So hang on, have we migrated all these people onto our server?

Josh: Yeah, we will. Yeah.

Tommy: And so what's the kickback? What are we charging them?

Josh: Nothing. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, well, I was covering it personally before then, so. And so we're just, we're just catching up.

Tommy: So is the Janssens on that?

Josh: So the Janssens would just, it's just a very basic direct, like it's holding some name server or DNS records, very low level MX record stuff.

Tommy: Has Jake got—

Jake: I feel like I do have Jake at the Janssens, but I don't think I've ever used it.

Josh: I think I set up. Yeah, I think I set everyone up.

Tommy: Powerful, powerful email. Yeah.

Josh: Yeah, because I've got an G Suite job, you're like an enterprise.

Tommy: Yeah, you're the Kardashians, you're worth a bit of cash.

Josh: Well, yeah, there was a, um, because there's Janssen Pharmaceutical or something, and so we couldn't get Janssen, so we went with thejanssens.com.au.

Tommy: Not bad, not bad. Um, so I mean, being middle brother, yeah, in the equation with a brother like Josh, um, I think you guys are all slightly different. James is You know, maybe not traditional. James is very different. I think it actually merges down, like, you guys are closer to looking and being of, you know, a similar nature. But then it's like my older brother, he's, he looks different to us. It's always like, what was mum doing?

Josh: Yeah, I mean, definitely. Yeah, James definitely has different vibes. Yeah.

Tommy: What's it like? What was it like growing up with Josh?

Jake: It was, it was different. It was different to what it was before you got there. It was different. He's a pain in the ass. Like he was obviously very endearing to a degree, but just— Was I?

Josh: I haven't heard. We've never spoken about what I was actually like.

Jake: Okay, well, let's do this. Let's do this right now. Okay. You were— He was— Oh, he was a snitch. I'll tell you, he was a real snitch.

Tommy: He's still a rat. If he sees something going down, first with his phone and calling the Five-O.

Jake: He would do just any opportunity to just, just snitch. And obviously, yeah, like, we, we punched on all the time.

Josh: And, um, this is just what was your favourite snitch looking back that I ever did?

Jake: Okay, so there's a couple. There was one time because it's all good.

Tommy: That's not good.

Jake: Well, I was a ratbag as a kid. Like, I was pretty—

Josh: I remember a really good snitch.

Jake: You say you do?

Josh: I want to hear your one.

Jake: Okay, so you've got a couple. So yeah, I got a couple, but I'll, I'll go one. You tell me yours. Um, so this time, uh, my parents had gone away for the weekend.

Tommy: Um, so what, uh, Josh would have been maybe 11, 12?

Jake: No, so I was 13, I was 16 or 17, which means he would have been 14, thereabouts.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Jake: Uh, and I was just, you know, I think they were in the city, so they weren't far. They just left us sort of, you know, to do our own thing.

Tommy: What were they doing in the city?

Jake: I think there was a fuckfest, big old fuckfest.

Josh: They got like the Novotel.

Tommy: The old FF at the fuck—

Jake: yeah, the Novotel. So every now and then they just, they just do this buffet breakfast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, so they just sort of left us to do our own thing. And I remember it was like a Friday night and, um, I wanted to walk down the street to a party. I had some mates meet up with me, we went to a party, and, um, we— there was other parties going on and we're like, oh, how are we going to get to the other parties? This is obviously before Uber and everything like that. And we're like, how are we going to get to the other parties? I'm like, well Well, I'll just drive. And obviously I didn't have my licence or anything. Didn't have a car. So I stole Dad's car. Which one?

Josh: Not the Ford. No, sorry. Sorry. It was the EK.

Jake: Yeah.

Josh: Blue Holden.

Jake: Yeah. So old 1962 Holden EK ute.

Tommy: So like, wasn't the SS.

Jake: But this stands out way more than the SS.

Josh: But you also did a burnout in it as well.

Jake: Yeah, I did. But that was another time.

Tommy: That he snitched on too.

Jake: Yeah. Yeah, of course.

Josh: He filmed himself doing a burnout in Dad's ute.

Jake: Yeah, but this time in particular, so we went to these parties, you know, and like, I was a dickhead. Like, I was, you know, drink driving as a 16-year-old, had a couple of mates in my car. If anything happened, we would have been like, we would have been stuffed.

Josh: So don't you think that that's fair, 97, that was snitching on someone who's drinking and driving?

Jake: He didn't know I was drinking and driving. All that he knew, the only thing that he knew when he found out about was we drove to this party and we drove to a couple parties, but we drove to this one in particular and came home anyway. The next Monday at school, one of Josh's— You sound like you're getting actually upset about this, go on.

Tommy: No, I just—

Jake: One of Josh's, someone in Josh's classes comes up to Josh. He's like, oh, your brother's got a really cool car. And he's like—

Josh: And just, can I just say, there's something very annoying about— What annoyed me more, I think, is the idea that Jake's flashing his car. It's like when you try and be too flashy and sort of I like to cut that shit down and be like, do you know the reality? You know, Tommy doesn't own that car.

Jake: He's still paying it off.

Josh: I got a couple of years left to pay anyway.

Tommy: So, so I own that fucking— we get real flashy.

Josh: And so when Jake's, when Jake's flexing, he's like, oh, you got the car.

Jake: It was— I wasn't even flexing. That was my—

Josh: your brother's so cool.

Jake: Oh, your brother's so cool. He's got the coolest car.

Tommy: Sometimes you just leave out details. If someone compliments you on something, Yeah, thanks.

Jake: But Josh was like, my brother doesn't have a car. And he's like, oh, this kid's like, yeah, he does. He rocked up to this party. And I can just imagine like seeing Josh's eyes just light up, just, yeah, I've got him, I've got him. But yeah, and he snitched.

Josh: But what was the pen—

Tommy: what was the punishment?

Jake: I don't think my parents believed him. I don't think there was any real repercussions.

Josh: Yeah, I feel like Jake was like a Big liar. Big, big liar. Absolutely.

Jake: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah. That's how honest I am. He's really tender. He's so honest.

Jake: Yeah, I'm super honest these days. But up until that point—

Josh: What other things did I dob on you about?

Jake: Um, I remember you—

Josh: I think I broke up one of your relationships.

Jake: Yeah, you did. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I was talking. Yeah, it was when I was dating this one girl and he told that girl that I was talking on the phone to another girl. Just made it his own business.

Josh: No, you weren't just talking.

Mason: You were kissing the other girl.

Josh: And so yeah, anyway, so I, so I said, so there was all this shit going on. I'm like, I can't have it anymore.

Jake: And I said, you know, he took it upon himself.

Josh: Can I say their names? I said, Christy, you know, he's been kissing Steph, or whatever it was. I can't remember that.

Jake: Emma. Yeah.

Josh: And so anyway, yeah, I've done a bit.

Tommy: I mean, when it comes from—

Jake: shout out to Christy and Emma—

Tommy: you're in the circle and someone's ratting from the inside of your circle, your family, It's your brother. It's fucked. That is— I just remember feeling like that when the people I love would rat on you, you know.

Josh: Would your brothers do something like that or no? No, because they're the older ones.

Tommy: Maybe Mikey, my middle brother, he might rat on me. But no, we were all pretty good. We were all naughty, wouldn't rat on each other.

Josh: Yeah, but I definitely I definitely had my own flaws. I ruined one of Jake's birth— this was the thing, Jake was always very hyperbolic, very sensitive. So anytime anything would happen, small thing could happen, say it was his birthday, he'd sort of position it as like, this is the only time that we ever look at me. Like, this is my one day where the attention is not on Josh.

Jake: I mean, it kind of was. That's what it was like. It was like, yeah, tension was always on Josh. So I was like, why wasn't it on— oh, it was Jake's birthday.

Josh: What was the attempt?

Jake: Because you made the attention on yourself.

Tommy: You were a pain in the ass.

Jake: You were in people's faces with a camera. Hey! But we had—

Tommy: But it paid off for us now, mate.

Jake: But we have to.

Mason: Absolutely.

Josh: But Jake and the Fat Man, you were— I couldn't sing. I was the fat man. I was the singer. You were the guitarist. You had all the skills.

Jake: Correct.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So from an attention point of view, you had the—

Jake: You were the front man.

Josh: Yeah, but you had the cool hair. You had the— you were getting all the girls. I wasn't really getting girls. Um, all of that sort of stuff.

Tommy: Are you making excuses for why it was okay?

Josh: No, no, no, no, no. So what I'm saying, what I'm saying is that my— the attention that I managed to get came out of extreme adversity, like being a little fat kid at first.

Jake: Yeah. And so anyway, can I—

Tommy: interesting, in terms of Josh's weight.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Was he actually as fat as he told you?

Jake: He was the fattest kid. Yeah, honestly, he was the fattest kid. Like, he was a big boy. Like, and because me and— especially stood out because me and James, very, very skinny, uh, when we were younger. Obviously I'm not anymore, but, um, yeah, when we were younger, very skinny. And then there was the fat kid. And yeah, obviously being a bro, you paid him out. Of course I paid him out.

Tommy: It's a savage existence, isn't it, within a house of 3 boys? Mr. 97's a part of 3, where I'm a part of 3, you're a part of 3.

Jake: Yeah, I remember like, like I'd eat biscuits from the, the cupboard. Like, you know, I'd go to the covered, eat all the Quattro biscuits, which were like, I think, um, yeah, they had like nuts in there, really good or whatever.

Tommy: And don't act like you don't know what they are. I know what they are, they're fucking amazing.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Jake: Um, but I remember Josh like busted me eating them or whatever, and I, yeah, I was just like smashing these biscuits. I'm telling Mum, I'm like, who's she gonna believe? Is she gonna believe me or she gonna believe the fat kid?

Josh: And who did she believe? It was actually ice creams because Quattros I pretended for the lifetime of my existence that I didn't like Quattros. And so I, whenever Mum would say, do you want a Quattro? But I don't like Quattros because I knew saying no to one now gives me two later.

Tommy: And it's the ultimate— it's, it's so— there's the correlation between that and a drug addict.

Jake: Yeah, it's the longest thing.

Josh: And breaking into Simon Sinek's Infinite Game right there. Yeah, I was playing the infinite, not the finite game.

Jake: Well, Oh, like we'd do the same thing, whereas like, yeah, like I'd put the— like I'd eat something and put the wrapper in his bin, and then I'd be like, no, no, I gotta— I gotta— we gotta think ahead. So I put the wrapper in my own bin, and then I'd say to Mum, why would I put the wrapper in my own?

Josh: Yeah, she'd be like, like, Josh is putting wrappers in my bin, where it's really him just fucking— he's made it even easier for him.

Tommy: Yeah, but there was a bunch of manipulative little—

Josh: yeah, but the word—

Tommy: the—

Josh: where I ruined his birthday apparently was it was when I was old enough, I would have been like 15, old enough to walk home from school. And I got home first and there was a lemon cake on the kitchen bench. And it's before anyone got home. And so I made an incision where I cut directly down the middle and directly down the middle again. So it's like a slice like that and then put the two half circles back together and put the icing over it. And the problem was, was, yeah, but you're weird because you, because you knew, like, because Mum got home and the cake went from being this like beautiful circle to this weird—

Jake: football, football.

Josh: And Mum's like, that's disgusting.

Jake: And then Jake's like, this happens every time. I was like, yeah, you're a little psychopath for doing that.

Josh: I thought, yeah, it was very inventive.

Tommy: It is inventive.

Jake: It's so smart. Yeah, I mean, but it didn't get away with it, guys.

Tommy: You're not that smart. I'll tell you what, he's getting away with it.

Jake: Yeah, it's like that, that level, you know, where like a drug addict will go to to get their fix. That was just you trying to get your fix. Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What are some of the positive things?

Jake: That's one of the positive things.

Josh: We made some great videos together.

Tommy: Yeah.

Jake: No, I had like, it was definitely, you know, for the better part, it was very fun. You know, it was like I did a lot more with Josh than I did with James. Like me and James played video games together, we played sports together.

Tommy: What's the age gap between you and James?

Jake: It's 2 years between each of us. So James, 2 years. Me, 2 years.

Josh: Josh, 4 years from James. Yeah, I think like the— what?

Mason: Thanks for clarifying.

Josh: Yeah, well, I thought, how does everyone say, how does that make sense?

Tommy: Yeah, we're 4, 4, 4.

Josh: And so anyway, so yeah, I'm the same, but exactly the same, but 4. What Jake and I did, like, I'd get him involved with all the like the early podcasting stuff.

Jake: Like we did the vlog, like the old video of the Jake and Josh Show.

Josh: We did Jake and Josh Show. That was fun.

Jake: That was fun.

Tommy: Was Jake and Amir around then? Were you modelling it off that? Yeah.

Josh: Do you remember that? CollegeHumor?

Jake: I do.

Josh: We're going to try and chat with them in LA.

Tommy: Cool. Did you, did you try and model it to the two of you?

Jake: I think we're really modelling it to— well, I wasn't.

Josh: No, I think it was just like that was all that was on. Like you were just watching whatever was online. Yeah, I did buy one of their Sylph t-shirts, like there's a picture of a sandwich and it said Sylph sandwich.

Tommy: I'd like to—

Jake: fuck yeah.

Josh: So I got that, which was great.

Jake: You wore that a lot.

Josh: Yeah.

Jake: And I also had your Google shirt. Oh yeah, it says sometimes when I'm alone I Google myself.

Tommy: Yeah, just hoping something, anything comes up.

Josh: Yeah, I was very into the novelty t-shirts.

Tommy: What were you into as a kid? Because I think Josh, you know, we Pretty strongly had a strong—

Josh: let's not talk about Josh for a sec. I get it, guys, that's been the narrative. Yeah, no, but I'm actually curious. Yeah, what were you into?

Tommy: Because I took no notice of you for the most part.

Jake: Music, like, I loved music, loved playing music and going to see gigs and stuff. I used to love BMXing. I go BMXing all the time. Yeah, I bought a new BMX, uh, about a year ago. Can't ride anymore, like, like do tricks or anything. You just lose that from not riding. Yeah.

Tommy: Okay.

Jake: Yeah. Um, what else?

Josh: You self-taught, uh, guitar?

Jake: Yeah, I taught myself how to play guitar. Um, which, yeah, I wonder like if I had had lessons if I hadn't been any good.

Josh: But second, uh, you're also very good at, uh, like Indonesian, like different languages. Yeah, still.

Jake: I'd still know a little bit of Indonesia. I pick up whenever I speak to somebody who speaks a second language, I'll always try to like learn some words. I just find it interesting. Yeah.

Josh: And I feel like Jake was always told that he was, which was always annoying for me, but he was smart. He had sort of like, he could do amazing in his exams. He didn't have to like do any tests. Like you just remember shit.

Jake: Yeah.

Josh: Where I couldn't remember anything.

Tommy: Well, what episode were you at today?

Josh: 4.91. But there was also like, Jake would do things like the teacher, he would pull his pants up, uh, and there was an older teacher who was like, um, not a great communicator. And so Jake would pull his pants up, and so when he—

Jake: The legs of my pants.

Josh: The legs of his pants up, and the teacher would say, Jake, pull your pants down! And he'd pull his pants down.

Jake: Oh, is it from the top? Yeah, that's a good one. All right, pull them up, pull them up!

Josh: Yeah, you also got in trouble for the blacklist. You created a list of people that you're gonna kill and they thought you were— they thought it was fucking—

Jake: yeah, because I made like a— it was like a hit list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, think about it, it sounds good.

Josh: Yeah, well, you think about it, it's like fucking post-Columbine and all that sort of thing, and then you've got this kid putting together a list.

Jake: Yeah, but it was just like people— it was like all my friends were on there, just like, oh yeah, you, oh, you You're not going to give me a— you're not going to give me one of your chips. That's all right.

Tommy: You'd carry your list around.

Josh: Matt, so was it a little bit like you tell me where it's like, uh, that you have a bunch of teachers that are against you and so then you lean into it and do all these sort of things to antagonize?

Tommy: Oh, of course, of course. Did you ever get suspended or—

Jake: um, I had like internal suspensions where I just had to go sit in the office and that sort of shit. Yeah.

Tommy: And did you get that, Josh, or no? Oh, hang on, the relationship Josh had with these teachers, what were you thinking of that? Because from the outside right now, it's still weird.

Jake: Yeah, it was a little weird. Uh, there was definitely like a few, a few teachers where I was like, oh, that's an uncomfortable— that's, that's a weird look. But I mean, well, I was always on the inside, like inside of that. So I didn't really used to hang out with the— in the, um, like the staff room.

Josh: Yeah, I think I did have access to the staff room.

Jake: Access to the staff room.

Tommy: I did not have a staff lockout, but I did over the holiday period.

Josh: I was there a lot.

Jake: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: But, um, yeah, I mean, I think they realised that I wasn't, um, I didn't have many friends in regards to like, you're a floater.

Jake: Yeah, ever. Nobody really disliked him, he just didn't have like really solid tight friendship groups. So yeah, floated.

Tommy: Do you have friends from high school?

Jake: Uh, yeah, I—

Tommy: primary school.

Jake: Yeah, yeah. Um, there's probably 5 or 6 people I still see and speak to from primary school.

Tommy: Mr. 97, do you have like the primary school buddies? Do you have ones from primary school?

Josh: Jase and Andre, they're both primary schools.

Mason: Both primary school.

Josh: Yeah, Coconut Crew.

Mason: Yeah, year 4. No, year 4. That's year 4 is when I met Andre, and then year 6 I met Jase, and then year 7 when we went into high school, Jason and I became better friends because Andre was at Coonong.

Tommy: Oh yeah, it's cute. I mean, origins of the Coconut Crew. Beautiful.

Josh: Really? Mr. 97 can't believe when I tell storeys of like the punch-ons. Do you have any? Do you have any specific things around?

Jake: I remember when we lived at Huxley. Do you remember Huxley? We, I think we fought a lot at Huxley.

Josh: Huxley was like, we were renting it because we were going to move into it. We're moving into a new house and it was a 2 story. I think I remember what you're going to say.

Jake: There's a couple of situations.

Josh: Was one of the bike?

Jake: One of them was with the bike. One of them was with the bike. We're having a bike race, um, with some of the, like, neighbours' kids, you know. We all had our bikes and I was killing the game. I was smashing.

Josh: Anyway, Josh, isn't it funny because we've never— we haven't spoken about this in 25 years since it happened.

Jake: Yeah, but, um, 20, 25, 15, 20 years.

Josh: No, no, 15. I've been with Bree for 15 years.

Tommy: Jesus.

Josh: Maybe 14.

Jake: Well, so if I'm with Bridget, if I'm—

Tommy: it was 13 years ago.

Josh: So, but if you think about it, because I was about 14, 15 when we were there, and I would have been 12. So 12, and I'm 29 now, 17 years ago. Okay, 17 years is a long time since we've talked about it. So it's cute. It's interesting that I— we have this prompt Yeah, potentially.

Tommy: Yeah, okay, 17 years ago.

Jake: So he, uh, Josh, Ty, I don't know, he was like in, I guess, in charge of like the finish line, the finish line, uh, and so like he tied like a, um, like he tied a finish line, you know, like you see when people run through the finish line. Yeah, like, yeah, what, ribbon or fucking rope? So I'm like tearing it up on my bike, I'm about to kill it, like, you know, I go through And this— I get clotheslined by this rope, like, straight through the neck. And like, like, I had like a— I had rope burn. Like, this— if I hadn't been going couple of K's faster, no head would have been gone, and you would have had a dead brother.

Tommy: Did you know that that was gonna happen?

Josh: No, I just— everything— no, everything was positioned as this will be funny. Yeah, it's like the uncle that I handcuffed.

Jake: Oh, that was excellent. That was the same 5-year Fucking thing. So I got clotheslined and like my immediate thing was, I think he was like nearby and he tried to ride away from— he was on the bike as well. I get off like because I was already off my bike, I fell, I saw him and obviously like he had like had a stupid smile on his face or whatever, just run to his bike like the one he's got right now, exactly like that one, except he was backing away and I just kicked it the side of his bike so he fell off and just started laying into it. Oh yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, so I remember another one at Huxley. Where you try— I don't know, Matt was over because my friend Matt reminds me about this. He's like, remember that time that Josh tried to hit you with the golf club or whatever? Because he tried it— we were inside.

Josh: There's been a few— a golf club.

Jake: Yeah, yeah. But he tries to hit me with the golf club and I like just timed it perfectly and I grabbed the golf club as he was swinging it at me. And Matt remembers it, like just remembers it as Josh just screaming. So I grabbed the thing and like I just threw it down because I don't need a club, I got these, you know. And he just goes, just runs away, and I'm just like chasing after him.

Josh: Yeah, because Jake would like— you would do the whole— this is the guy that had a hit list, and so he was saying, he was like, I'm gonna fucking kill you.

Jake: Well, I used to get in so much trouble from like— Josh would just like, like antagonise me and antagonise me and poke me and poke me, do all these things, and then I'd beat the shit out of him and Mum would be like, Jake, you're a psycho. What about this little fucking shit? Yeah, what about like, um, I remember climbing up the stairs, like chasing you up the stairs at Huxley wearing rollerblades.

Tommy: Who was wearing—

Jake: I was wearing rollerblades and he's running away from me. I don't know what he did, but something. Um, and I tried to kick him and he closed the door at the same time, so like my foot went through the door. I was like, yeah, of a rental fat cat.

Josh: That sort of stuff happened a lot. My, uh, yeah, my head went through a wall.

Jake: Who pushed it?

Tommy: Who put it through?

Josh: James.

Jake: James, shout out to Jimmy.

Tommy: Who was more violent?

Josh: It was like— I'm curious.

Jake: I honestly believe like I could beat the shit out of both. Yeah, like back, back in the day, and probably now if we're perfectly honest.

Tommy: I mean, any thought, any, any—

Josh: Can you, um, can you two do a, um, arm wrestle?

Tommy: I'd rather see the brothers.

Josh: My shoulder still hurts. Yeah, I know, but haven't I always had shoulder issues? Do you remember, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: What were you doing? How did you get— I'm just bad.

Josh: Just like clicking, like, I can make crack, I can real noisy. And I, I saw some basketball at the Dandenong Basketball Stadium, saw some horrendous dislocations.

Jake: There was that guy who played for James's team, dislocated like fucking 3 times.

Tommy: Have you ever broken a bone?

Jake: No, not on my nose. I fell off my bike and landed on my face and broke my nose.

Josh: What are some good memories? Because you know that Mum's gonna listen. She's just gonna be like, the bad memories always slandered us, I'm fucking suing.

Jake: She wouldn't say that, by the way.

Tommy: There's, um, the bad memories always stick, but is there any fun times?

Jake: Oh, absolutely. Like when, when Josh like first started making his movies and like we'd make like I remember we made like little parody episodes of like Home and Away and stuff. The panel. Yeah, the panel, that was fun.

Josh: Um, there's got to be Steve Irwin's Aussie Adventure.

Jake: That was cool, that was cool.

Josh: Yeah, we used to— when we did play, was it me or you that would lose? And probably me. It was, yeah, I went— it was the classic, we're playing PlayStation, and I actually know it was you.

Jake: It doesn't seem like something I would do.

Josh: When you— whenever you're losing, you'd press the reset button.

Jake: Yeah, which would be never because I don't—

Josh: yeah, no, I remember that. So we used to— we actually had a lot of fun playing Duke Nukem: Time to Kill. Yeah, good game. Uh, Tony Hawk Pro Sk8boarder.

Tommy: Uh, you turn on, um, infinite grind, you can just grind all day.

Josh: Yeah, we had the cheat— uh, what was it? Yeah, you had cheats, like cheatcodes.com. We had, um, what other thing? What about if we go back really early? The computer stuff in the early days was fun. Yeah, like, uh, Mother Goose. Oh yeah, Wolfenstein 3D.

Jake: Do you remember playing a game called Torrin's Passage? No, I think I played that by myself.

Josh: Yeah, that was a good game. Yeah, there was also, we had this, um, do you remember the free internet Sharon Key got us onto? Um, so you'd pay for the phone connection but then you used a special web browser and they just had ads on the actual browser.

Tommy: It was called like, no, it wasn't.

Josh: No, it was like a special one. It actually had, look it up, nice. It was like free internet browser ads, '90s Australia. Anyway, that was interesting. Napster and all that sort of thing, we're right into all of them, like downloading all that.

Tommy: Were you as tech heavy as Josh was?

Jake: No, no, no. I mean, I used to know my way around it a little bit, but yeah, just nowhere near the same level. Like, Josh was, yeah, on a different level.

Josh: But there was also shit that I didn't like. I just, I was into Macs and all that sort of thing. Yeah, I couldn't really build.

Tommy: Who's Max? What's him? Who's he?

Josh: You know, Apple Macs.

Tommy: I only learned recently, did— was it— was it Steve— not Steve Jobs, Microsoft. Did they gobble up Netscape? Like in that documentary recently, was that them that sort of—

Mason: they did.

Tommy: Yeah, they ruined Netscape and Netscape tried to sue them. Was that them?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, there was a bunch of stuff in that early. I think they realised that the browser was going to be the thing. And if they could, you know, take control of the browser.

Tommy: One thing that I brought in that I was just going to say, maybe you could say a few nice things about your mum just because your mum's great.

Jake: Yeah, she's lovely.

Josh: And the thing is, how do you describe mum? She's very— Mum's funny. Yeah, she's hilarious. A bit in moments completely rational and hilarious and like the most sort of rational person or whatever. But then if you were, if something would happen, I guess she would blame it on having 3 boys.

Tommy: I would too. I'd say it's a solid excuse.

Josh: Gets that little bit of crazy or whatever about stuff and gets very annoyed.

Tommy: Have you heard Josh's voice that he does?

Jake: Yeah, I think my voice is exactly the same. Josh!

Tommy: Sorry, Lynn.

Jake: Yeah, dinner's ready. Come on, there's nothing worse than cold pasta.

Josh: It was always whatever it was. Nothing worse than cold eggs. Nothing worse.

Tommy: Yeah, there's actually nothing worse. I agree with you, Lynn. Cold eggs are shit, especially if they're scrambled.

Josh: But they were always very good at like driving us and stuff.

Jake: Like, Jake, we had a really privileged, good, um, childhood.

Josh: Yeah, from the huge sacrifice Having 3 kids and we lived in like the, in the suburbs that we're in, we're in the best suburb in the southeast, like really nice houses and all that sort of thing. We had like, Jake had room to be able to ride his bike and do all the BMX stuff. I made videos on that sort of shit. We were next to the national park.

Tommy: What about your brother?

Josh: Your other brother James?

Jake: He was just so heavily invested in basketball.

Tommy: Was he? He was scouting it.

Jake: So he was at Dandenong Basketball Stadium like 4 days a week with Blackburn as well. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Blackburn, you know, playing for them. So his life, like, that's what I'm— his life was just sports, like basketball, tennis. They're probably the main two, I think. Footy, when he played footy.

Josh: And then the— so Jake and I managed Jake's band. So all the stuff where I was a real shit, that was sort of from, say, 1995 to 2008.

Tommy: And what did he do? Managing your band? What did he do? So I started managing the band in like—

Josh: managing the band? Like, I managed the website. I was a webmaster. I never called a venue.

Jake: Yeah, no, you didn't get a single gig. But like, as far as like, what would I do? Stuff like promo stuff. Like, you know, you helped us sort out our stickers. Like, I mean, I designed a couple of the, you know, like the album cover or the EP cover.

Josh: What about the CDs that I got?

Jake: Like, yeah, you know, organised all that sort of shit.

Tommy: Pressed the CDs of the actual—

Josh: yeah. And that was— how exciting was that?

Jake: That was awesome.

Josh: From DHL.

Jake: I found a full box of them.

Josh: Really? There's probably like 200 of them.

Tommy: Where?

Jake: Just at my parents' house. There's a full box. Oh, sweet.

Josh: I have no idea.

Tommy: Poor parents having to keep up.

Josh: Can we give some out at the F500 event?

Tommy: Does anyone have a CD drive?

Josh: CD player.

Tommy: CD player.

Josh: Yeah. I'm trying to think the other. Yeah, I mean, the thing is that we enjoy this. We have such vivid memories. It feels like so many things happened, like the marimba, like, because Mum and Dad were going out one night and they'd met this couple. They were a nurse and a police officer, and they were like, well, we can look after your kids while you go out. And then that was when I hit— was it you or James? James at the golf club. The thing is, I had—

Tommy: was it bad?

Josh: Uh, they would always—

Mason: over there, you're all right.

Jake: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean, he's okay now.

Josh: Yeah, was he cop? Yeah. And so Mum—

Tommy: Josh got arrested.

Josh: Never been more embarrassed in my life type of deal, which is probably fair.

Jake: Yeah, it was football. Literally left us for one night.

Josh: So sport-wise, you played a bit of basketball. Yeah, you never got into footy?

Jake: No, I never played footy.

Josh: Never played tennis?

Jake: Basketball and tennis on my two. And I could, yeah, swim. Like, I could— that was one thing I could always beat because James is obviously like really competitive with sports. He's better than me at basketball, he's better than me at tennis, but I could always beat him in swimming. And I knew it killed him. Like, I could see it because we had the pool at our house and, you know, we'd race. And I knew every time I beat him, it just killed him a little bit. And so I'm like, yeah, hold on to that, James.

Tommy: Brothers are brutal. Siblings are brutal. Jeez.

Josh: Do you like— yeah, what do you relate to with this stuff? Do you like—

Tommy: oh, I mean, we were— the 4-year gap between me and Mikey, gap. Yeah, we were, we were close because the gap was 8 years between me and my eldest brother. We became closer as we got older because when I'm bloody 12, he's 20. Yeah, it's a— he's a, he's a, he's a huge— he's an adult, he's a human, he's an adult that wants to go out and do shit, and I can— I'm this little kid in grade 6. So I get that. But yeah, a bit different, a bit different.

Josh: But Jake was very good at the, like, the writing songs. So Feed Your Monkey was the band that I was, I had a very small part in managing their website. But yeah, you did the whole, they went to the Basin, you know, the Basin in the Dandenong, the suburb.

Jake: It's like near Baronia, big super club.

Josh: A what club?

Tommy: Like one of those big outer suburbs pub clubs.

Jake: Is that what you're talking about, the Basin, or is it actually like a suburb?

Josh: Okay, and so that's where they recorded their EP.

Jake: Basin Studios we used to go to, um, and yeah, like we recorded a couple of EPs, like 2 EPs and an album. Um, yeah, that was—

Tommy: Mr. OnlySaves, can you look up, um, middle brother syndrome? And then look up younger brother syndrome because we're— Josh and I are both younger brothers, so we can find out. Because the middle brother thing has always been like, ah, the middle brother, you know.

Jake: Yeah, it's a weird one.

Josh: The middle brother thing is always— because Jake, you always felt— because I had VC— so the final 2 years of my school, I would go to the Victorian College of the Arts and like film and TV and do that. James did the basketball stuff and you were doing music, but I think that you felt growing up, you're like, oh, people don't spend enough time taking me to gigs.

Jake: No, like, as mum— like, his mum and dad, they always like supported when I started playing gigs. Like, you know, Ruby would be playing gigs wherever we were, my parents would come. Like, we're going to the Espy. Like, remember what the Espy used to be like before it was done up? Yeah, exactly. But like, you'd go there on like—

Josh: they used to play there a lot.

Tommy: Yeah, it was at the band name shit out.

Jake: No, like, we'd go there on like a Saturday night where like That place gets pretty crazy on a Saturday night. Like, Lynn and Richard just come along, they bring a few of their friends.

Tommy: And mate, you support your kids. Lynn and Richie are going to be at the 500th gig. Yeah, just like, this is like our shows Josh used to put on in these, in the lounge room.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Did you find anything, Mr. 97s?

Mason: Middle kid or middle child syndrome. Yeah, uh, they're often ignored and often grow resentful of all the, uh, parental attention given to the eldest. And the baby of the family and often feel short-shifted. Middle children have to try a little harder to be heard or get noticed.

Jake: That's relatable.

Tommy: Is that it for the middle brother?

Mason: That's middle brother.

Josh: You're the middle?

Mason: Yeah, I'm middle.

Tommy: Do you feel that too?

Jake: You get it.

Tommy: This is good. Two and two.

Jake: Ace gets it.

Tommy: Yeah, I can—

Mason: no, no, I actually don't. I actually don't feel it.

Tommy: Whoa. What do you feel? Do you feel anything? He's so numb.

Jake: Feels love. Yeah, yeah.

Mason: No, I No, I, I feel like mum and dad have put— you think actually, you know, eldest, like Sam, I think he not copped it, but he's like school— because he's the first one to go through everything, right? You have to like— mum and dad are super, super strict in terms of like school, like do your homework, do all of this. Whereas like with me it was more laid back, and with Jamesy it's like even more laid back.

Tommy: So you've given up, mate.

Josh: You got 97 interscore, so clearly the laid-back thing Yeah.

Jake: Yeah.

Josh: I mean, it's interesting. I think our schools were interesting that we went to. Yeah.

Tommy: Younger brother?

Josh: Still funny at the same time. I mean, there's not really a syndrome for young.

Tommy: Well, I mean, there's definitely traits.

Jake: Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely sort of widely considered that I guess the younger child gets more, you know, because it's like they're, you know, quite often the parents are like more developed and they have the provisions to give more and do more.

Tommy: Well, my eldest brother, when he was young, had a party and mum made carob cake. Yeah, which is like the chocolate, the chocolate that dogs get.

Josh: Carob.

Tommy: It's literally, you can buy it from a dog, a pet store. Carob chocolate for dogs. By the time I have my parties, it was an ice cream, ice cream cake every year. Just a big football shape, a race car shape.

Jake: And I get a cake that's been No, it was a footy— it was a football coach.

Josh: Um, one thing that Jake's very good at, I think, is spelling and also, um, trivia. Like, extremely good.

Jake: I don't mind a bit of trivia.

Tommy: Yeah, can you just put, um, unless you found the younger brother, I reckon do some trivia.

Josh: Trivia and spelling, no joke. Just reel off a bunch of trivia stuff.

Tommy: There'll be a trivia— yeah, trivia starts like Top trivia question.

Jake: I have a few beers, I'll be fine.

Tommy: You reckon the beers keep you— Yeah, no, we don't actually.

Josh: We're gonna have—

Tommy: We've got whiskey.

Josh: Uh, who's our beer sponsor?

Tommy: Moondog. Moondog donating some, uh, beverages for our 500th party. It's awesome.

Josh: You can have 2 froffies.

Tommy: 2 froffies and more froffs. No, more than 2. Yeah, no, but not everyone drinks. There'll be some bubblies too. We should get some kombucha for the non-drinkers.

Josh: Oh yeah, or LaCroix. We'll talk about that. They're too expensive per can.

Jake: Maybe something Mum keeps saying is she keeps Lacroix. How bad kombucha is for your teeth. That's something about Mum being in the dental game that she gave us. Everything. Everything's bad for your teeth.

Tommy: Oh, you can't have that, it's bad for your teeth.

Josh: Yeah, like Froot Loops. We were never allowed Froot Loops. We were never allowed like—

Mason: Were you allowed Roll-Ups?

Jake: No. That's what I was about to say.

Josh: Fucking loved Roll-Ups.

Jake: I used to trade like, you know, beautiful hand, like, you know, homemade ciabatta lunches for like, with my friend Nasser at school for like a Roll-Up and a Big M.

Tommy: Jeez.

Josh: All right, just very quickly on the, um, on that thing from a food point of view, how would you describe our relationship with food growing up? Oh, because Mum and Dad love that, love us. They don't say it, they're not really ones to say I love you, but they do, they, they provide their love based on In the early days, it was a lot of hot dogs.

Jake: Yeah, loved the hot dogs. Every Saturday we used to have a hot dog after basketball. Mum would just get the hot dogs on.

Tommy: What about the canteen? Pretty common thing.

Jake: We were the canteen kids. Yeah, yeah, we always went to the canteen.

Tommy: But hang on, is this—

Josh: are you— I'm saying that we're like, we're lucky. We were lucky in a way.

Tommy: That was our love language.

Josh: Our love language was canteen. Yeah, yeah. And cash. I just—

Tommy: go on, run.

Jake: Speaking of relationship with food, I just remember how much mayonnaise you used to consume.

Tommy: Yeah, really? Are you in mayonnaise by now?

Jake: Not as much, but yeah, we'd go through like jars, like jars a week, like jars a week, multiple jars.

Tommy: What did you put it on?

Jake: Roast. Yeah, he'd just have his roast beef and he'd put like mayonnaise, like a heaped section of mayonnaise.

Tommy: My dad's a fiend, he loves it.

Josh: And then, yeah, if there was no mayo, I'd use like Caesar dressing.

Tommy: I mean, it's not bad, it's not a bad idea.

Josh: What other traits Oh dear. It is good. I like nostalgia. I know that you're—

Jake: I love a bit of nostalgia as well, but your memory as far as nostalgia is off its head.

Tommy: Yeah. He remembers nothing from now, but everything from years ago.

Josh: Yeah. Do some trivia and then I'll pull a piece of a story, an old story. I'll have a think.

Jake: Can we at least do it as a trivia game? Okay.

Josh: Yeah. So, between 3. Okay, great.

Mason: Okay.

Tommy: Okay. And you have to use your name as your buzzer.

Josh: Yeah.

Jake: Okay.

Josh: Should we test the buzzers? That's what they do on radio.

Jake: Tommy.

Josh: Jake. Josh. It's about the speed in which they're—

Mason: Oh, okay, they're the buzzers.

Jake: Okay. Yeah.

Mason: Which nail grows fastest?

Josh: Josh. The big nail.

Mason: Middle finger.

Tommy: Oh, and he's just flipped the bird.

Josh: Is that a joke?

Mason: So did you get that right or wrong? Middle finger?

Jake: No, he said the big finger, so he meant the thumb.

Josh: The biggest finger is the middle.

Jake: Yeah, but it—

Tommy: well, it's not—

Josh: nah, nah, nah.

Jake: That was not for you, old—

Tommy: Oh, hang on, have you got a toe thumb?

Jake: No, I got— I have normal thumbs. Yeah, Dad's got it.

Tommy: Did you used to look at his thumb and think— I used to think, what did you think?

Jake: No, I was just like, oh, that's an ugly-ass thumb.

Tommy: Did you ever make, um, Josh and your dad have a thumb wrestle?

Jake: No, that would have been— there would have been no survivors. It's like, you know, in the boxing, like the super heavyweights.

Josh: All right, next one.

Mason: Who was the most recent Australian to win the men's singles title at Wimbledon?

Jake: Wimbledon?

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Oh, Jake, singles.

Jake: It wasn't Rafter, was it?

Mason: I can't say no to that.

Josh: Is anyone gonna buzz?

Tommy: He said no. Tommy. Uh, Australian singles men. Men's— Philippoussis.

Mason: Layton Hewitt.

Tommy: I'm going old school. Fuck, we went too old school, didn't we?

Jake: No, I think they're probably about the same time.

Josh: Next one.

Mason: What Australian company is the largest surfwear manufacturer?

Jake: Josh.

Josh: Drake.

Mason: Josh.

Josh: Billabong.

Jake: No, Rip Curl.

Josh: We gotta do the name.

Mason: Quiksilver.

Jake: Fuck off.

Josh: Yeah, this is fun.

Jake: Yeah.

Tommy: Okay. They're Australian.

Mason: How many countries are larger than Australia?

Josh: Jake.

Jake: Zwoah. Now that I think about it, zero.

Tommy: Nope. Tommy.

Josh: Two?

Jake: Russia and one?

Mason: Five.

Jake: Five bigger than Australia?

Mason: Russia, Canada, China, USA, and Brazil.

Jake: Canada bigger than Australia? Oh, all the— Yeah, no, that's fair. We'll pay that. So, for someone who's good at trivia—

Josh: This is fine. We'll do spelling next because that's a little bit easier.

Jake: It's not easier.

Josh: It's a disaster.

Mason: Um, I know who designed the Sydney Opera House.

Tommy: Oh, I watched, I watched something else.

Josh: Paul Hogan.

Jake: Um, wasn't Paul Hogan, Jake, it was Crocodile Dundee.

Mason: That was way too hard.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Um, what was Sir Donald Bradman's batting average?

Jake: Josh, shake.

Josh: 99.

Mason: 99.94. Yeah, he's got it.

Tommy: Boom.

Jake: 94. He's got it.

Josh: So that's a classic trivia, isn't it?

Mason: He doesn't—

Jake: yeah, and he was— no, I didn't watch it, but he, from memory, he had over 100 in every single, uh, game that he played in bar his last one, or something along that, that nature.

Josh: Next one.

Tommy: Imagine going out for a duck in your last ever game.

Jake: I think he did. I think that was—

Josh: I don't understand what that means. We'll do 5 more because this is actually really fun.

Jake: All right, okay.

Mason: Uh, When did the First World War start?

Jake: Jake.

Josh: 1914.

Mason: Yeah, he's got it.

Josh: I think he's got it.

Tommy: 1914. I think that was the year—

Jake: 14 to 18, and then World War II was, uh, '39 to '45. Yeah.

Josh: All right, no, he seems happy with this.

Tommy: Ready, go.

Mason: What colour is a panda?

Josh: Tommy. Tommy.

Tommy: Tommy. Not one.

Jake: What?

Mason: What?

Tommy: Panda?

Josh: What are you talking about, bro?

Tommy: What color? Yeah, black and white are shades, fuckwits. I thought it was a trick question.

Mason: I mean, you've beaten the answer because the answer was black and white, but yeah, exactly.

Josh: Do you remember when you were in art in year 7, you found out that black and white wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, just fucking throw everything. It's like, oh, what about that t-shirt? It's a nice color. Mum, you fucking idiot, it's a shade.

Tommy: Can we agree that that was right?

Jake: Yeah, it's great.

Josh: I would do formal.

Mason: Surely double points for that.

Jake: Formal.

Mason: Uh, which actor is best known for his role as Patrick Jane in the hit series The Mentalist? Aussie actor.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. I just see him in Josh.

Josh: Josh, the ANZ guy.

Jake: Correct.

Mason: You need a name, bro.

Josh: Blonde hair, blondie.

Mason: You need a name.

Tommy: Can you give us the first letter? S. Of the— Tommy. Simon Baker.

Mason: He's got it.

Jake: Boom.

Tommy: Yeah, he's— I saw when I lived in Bondi, I'd see him fucking wandering around everywhere.

Josh: Uh, 3 more.

Mason: Um, we're running out of good ones.

Josh: Where are you getting these, by the way?

Mason: Just a variety of websites.

Josh: If this was an essay, that wouldn't pass as—

Mason: uh, mate, otherwise you're getting one like—

Josh: no, we don't—

Tommy: oh yeah, we don't need to know.

Josh: Talk about after stroke.

Mason: What did the crocodile swallow in Peter Pan?

Jake: Jake. A clock.

Mason: He's got it.

Tommy: What else you got? Come on.

Mason: Who discovered penicillin?

Jake: Oh, um, Jake, was it Marie Curie?

Mason: Nope.

Tommy: No, that was, um, radiation.

Jake: Yeah, yeah, no, something.

Mason: Um, it's a good thing she did mercury. Mercury potentially.

Jake: Um, uh, who?

Tommy: Mr. Penicillin? I don't know.

Mason: Fleming.

Tommy: Fleming.

Mason: Who invented the telephone?

Jake: Jake. Alexander Graham Bell.

Tommy: Yep.

Josh: Yeah, that's a good one. We'll do, we'll do 2 bonus because I'm enjoying this.

Mason: Okay. What does the Roman numeral C represent?

Josh: Josh.

Mason: 100. Who got that?

Jake: I did.

Josh: Did he get it right?

Jake: 100%.

Mason: Yeah, it's 100.

Josh: Okay, I was gonna say 50.

Tommy: Okay.

Mason: Which is the only mammal that can't jump?

Jake: Jake. Elephant.

Josh: Tommy, do 3 more. This is so fun, isn't it? I fucking love this game.

Mason: How many dots are there on 2 dice?

Tommy: Tommy. I've got— I'll just chuck it out there.

Mason: 27.

Tommy: No, no, I know, because I did one dice. There'll be a lot more. You're doing the actual math, Jake.

Mason: 42.

Jake: He's good.

Tommy: Boom!

Josh: Nice one. That's good. He's good at maths.

Tommy: That's quick.

Josh: Are you better at English or maths?

Jake: I, I think I was better at maths, but I never really wanted to.

Tommy: Did you actually get through, uh, 6 5 and then you doubled it?

Jake: Yeah.

Tommy: That was quick, man.

Jake: Oh, fuck it.

Tommy: That's nice.

Mason: Which planet is nearest to the sun?

Jake: Josh. Mercury. I got it.

Josh: At this point, I'm just yelling out my name with the idea Jake answers. I didn't actually ask.

Tommy: That reminds me. Keep going, keep going.

Mason: Which is the largest ocean?

Jake: Josh.

Josh: The Pacific.

Mason: You've got it.

Josh: Yeah, I know.

Mason: How many squares are there on a chessboard?

Josh: Josh. 40.

Jake: 64. Oh, I was gonna say 64.

Tommy: What else you got?

Josh: Do 2 more.

Tommy: And when he says do 2 more, just do 2 more after that.

Mason: Yeah. What's the Hungarian word for pepper?

Josh: Now you're being silly.

Jake: How are we meant to know? Nah, I reckon goulash.

Mason: Paprika.

Tommy: Is it?

Mason: What year did Elvis Presley die?

Josh: 1963.

Jake: No, later. Um, 19— it was later, right?

Mason: It's later.

Jake: 1973.

Mason: 7.

Jake: Oh, I was never gonna say 7.

Tommy: Keep going. All right.

Mason: What type of elephant has the biggest ears?

Josh: Jake.

Jake: Indian.

Josh: African. African. I was gonna say the grey elephant.

Tommy: I was gonna say Dumbo.

Josh: 2 more.

Tommy: Actually, 2 more this time because we're gonna wrap it up.

Josh: It is good fun though, isn't it? Can we have a trivia segment?

Tommy: Trivia is fun.

Josh: Yeah, I think there's something we legally—

Mason: oh, this is a good one. What is the first letter on a typewriter?

Josh: Josh, Q.

Jake: He's got it.

Tommy: Yeah, it's QWERTY keyboard. There's so many passwords, so many people have QWERTY.

Josh: Do you know why QWERTY keyboard exists?

Jake: Was it to prevent it from jamming up because a lot of the, yeah, common ones were next?

Josh: It was actually the slow— it was the slow typos down so they wouldn't jam.

Tommy: Interesting.

Mason: What is the smallest type of tree in the world?

Josh: Josh. Bonsai.

Mason: He's got it.

Tommy: Great.

Mason: What colours make purple?

Josh: Josh.

Jake: Blue. Jake.

Josh: Green.

Jake: Blue and red.

Mason: He's got it.

Jake: Oh, Josh. Blue and green.

Josh: Is he getting purple from that?

Jake: Oh, I thought he said aqua. One more.

Josh: This is fun.

Mason: Who is the main actor in Superman 2?

Josh: Clark Kent. Superman 2?

Tommy: Fuck, I can't— they just remade Superman 2. Uh, is this the original?

Josh: It's not really trivia, you're talking pop culture now, mates.

Tommy: Give us the joke.

Mason: First, first, uh, is this first?

Tommy: Yeah, Clark Kent.

Josh: No, it's, uh, Christopher Reeve. Yeah.

Tommy: Oh yeah, then he fell off. Oh, poor guy. Is he still alive or has he passed away?

Jake: He passed away not long ago.

Tommy: That was trivia.

Jake: Could be wrong.

Mason: What, what stopped in London at 3:45 on August? Big Ben. Jake, what else is gonna stop?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Um, he's having fun now too. Are you having fun? 97.

Mason: I mean, these are— you have to go through because this one's just like, where does the American president live?

Josh: Josh, tell me.

Jake: White House.

Tommy: Washington.

Josh: What was the answer?

Mason: It was the White House.

Jake: Washington, D.C. What's the hardest rock?

Josh: Josh, tell me. Stone.

Jake: Stone?

Mason: You're kidding.

Jake: Stone?

Tommy: Hard rock.

Josh: Hard rock. A diamond.

Jake: Yeah, come on, fellas.

Mason: What was Elton John's first US number one hit?

Tommy: What About Me?

Josh: No, no, no, no, no, no. My Song or something. No, what's that called? Is it My Song?

Mason: You were closer with Crocodile Dundee.

Jake: Crocodile Rock.

Mason: Yeah.

Jake: I remember when I was young.

Josh: Do you remember when I sung that?

Jake: No, but I remember that being a frequent on road trips when we'd go drive places with Mum and Dad.

Josh: Yeah, the school production when the school didn't have cash to buy a licence for any script, like a proper show. They just made up their own. It's called like a variety show, just did shit. One of them was me singing Crocodile Rock.

Tommy: Um, thanks for coming in.

Josh: One more, we'll do one more.

Mason: Who invented the electric light bulb?

Josh: Tesla.

Tommy: Tesla. Edison.

Jake: It was Edison.

Mason: Edison.

Josh: Yeah, yeah. Tesla's the electricity.

Mason: Um, Nikola Tesla was the Tesla coil, which was—

Josh: it is good to know trivia. Why don't you do Can we just get you to spell 3 different words? Spelling?

Jake: All right, I'm gonna control it.

Tommy: Yeah, these are hard. Can you just spell—

Mason: just— I'm just finding some difficult words to spell.

Tommy: Can you just do definitely? I always fuck that up.

Jake: You spell defiantly, don't you?

Mason: All right, here we go. Okay, yes.

Josh: Plagiarism.

Jake: P-L-A-G.

Tommy: Oh, I need to write it down.

Jake: He's like, he's right-handed.

Josh: P-L-A-G. That's part of his chip.

Jake: He's wiring. IAR.

Mason: He's fucked.

Josh: Yeah, when he was in Sovereign Hill, he got in a lot of trouble for the left hand.

Jake: I did, and I thought it was ridiculous.

Tommy: What, hang on, they thought because you were left-handed?

Jake: No, because like the, the whole thing with Sovereign Hill is they want to try to give you like the old-timey experience, and they thought if you wrote with your left hand, you were the devil or something to that degree. And, um, so like, no, you gotta write with your right hand. This is I'm on school camp. I'm going back to Moskow Park in 3 days. Like, I'm not gonna have to put up with that shit there.

Josh: You took it personally, didn't you?

Jake: Yeah, absolutely. I think I cried. Yeah, probably cried.

Tommy: And they were just in character.

Josh: Oh my God, this guy would have been loving it.

Jake: I took it a bit overboard, didn't I?

Josh: I think it was the guy that, um, was— that I hit his car the other day. Uh, one more word to spell and then we'll go.

Mason: Uh, give me a sec.

Tommy: I've got one, I've got one. Squeegee.

Josh: Oh, squeegee's easy. Squeegee's too easy.

Jake: I use that squeegee. I just want to just— but not for the same purposes as him.

Tommy: No, but when you were, when you were living together.

Jake: Yeah, it just— hearing episode 14, I was like, I use that squeegee regularly for its intended purpose. For its intended purpose. You sex pest. I'm not about kink shaming, but I'm using it. You're a sex bestie. Not in that.

Josh: All right, one more.

Mason: On a mat up here.

Jake: No, that's a good one.

Josh: I'll do one more. Come on.

Tommy: Oh, he's done one more.

Josh: Okay. All right, thanks.

Tommy: Came on, Jake. I appreciate it.

Josh: That was fun. Uh, I, I hope it wasn't— was it— I mean, I enjoy the negative stuff going into that. Is it— do we go too negative?

Jake: No, I don't. Well, the whole thing is like, I mean I think it's important.

Tommy: You're a fuckwit.

Jake: You are a fuckwit. No, I mean, we had a great childhood together. I have great memories. But obviously, like, you look back in hindsight and you look at, look at the, the shit stuff happening, you're like, that was funny. Or like, in hindsight, you're a real dick for that, you know?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, that's— I mean, you either do that or you move to America like your brother. Yeah, exactly.

Jake: It's a coping mechanism. The psychologist recommended it.

Mason: Coming full circle, those fungi t-shirts are legit.

Jake: Yeah, okay.

Josh: Oh really?

Mason: Yeah, you buy them from New Balance.

Josh: Yeah, what are they charging?

Mason: Uh, $39 Canadian.

Josh: Oh, we need an LA fact. And while you find the LA fact, I, I, um, have got, uh, something for the office.

Tommy: Yes.

Josh: Uh, so I got this at the start of the year and it hasn't been utilized, and we only have 3 months to use it.

Tommy: Is it like a cleaner or something? What is it?

Jake: It's my description.

Josh: It's my lunar calendar.

Tommy: Oh, the moon. Fuck, at the moment, can you tell me what happened?

Josh: So let's have a look. So there we go.

Tommy: I reckon we're about 3 days out from the full moon.

Josh: So it's Sunday, what is it, October? So it's the, um, what are we now? We're the 19th. No, so it's the 19th because it comes out Sunday.

Tommy: Oh, we're at half.

Josh: Oh, so it's the 17th.

Jake: So it's past.

Josh: Yeah, 17th, uh, is when we're recording this, it's full moon. Full moon. Yeah, today. Yeah, that's exciting. But anyway, this glows in the dark.

Tommy: No wonder you were hitting cars.

Josh: This glows in the dark. Could we actually, to see the show out, can we get all the lights off?

Tommy: Yeah, I can turn that off.

Mason: All the studio lights.

Tommy: I can flick it off. Yeah, yeah, we're trying to flick off the power to everything.

Josh: Okay, here we go.

Tommy: Hang on. All right, uh Yeah, no, no, it's all right, man. I know which light to turn off. Okay, great.

Josh: Um, you worried about the router or something?

Mason: No, I was just worried about your, your headphones.

Tommy: We'll just— we're not turning that off though. Say goodbye to thedailytalkshow.com.

Josh: Yeah, I can do that before.

Tommy: Oh yeah, yeah, but no, it's the end. We finished it.

Mason: Okay, great. So there, LA has a 22-foot statue of a boy with a chicken's head. Chicken Boy was first perched atop a fried chicken restaurant in downtown LA. The Chicken Boy statue is sometimes known as the Statue of Liberty of Los Angeles.

Josh: I love that fact. And before we go, Jake, you're doing a song. You've been doing a song every month.

Jake: Song a month. Yeah.

Tommy: As in writing a new one.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: Because I, um, you stopped posting them.

Jake: Yeah.

Josh: Can for the next, for November and December, can you release them? And if people go to Classic Jansen on Instagram, they can see your journey through your Insta stories.

Jake: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: I mean, do we, is it Empty Promises like your brother?

Jake: No, though I'll tell you, I started because I hadn't written a song for— when I was younger, I wrote heaps. I probably wrote about 30 songs between the ages of 18 and 23. I didn't write anything from 23 to 30. Um, and then the start of this year, I thought, I'm going to get back into it. I decided I'm going to commit to a song a month. The first 5 months straight, like, you know, nailed it. Um, and now we're in month 10, and I've got 8 unfinished songs and like I'm just, I'm chasing my tail now, but like I'm really committed to actually getting it finished.

Josh: Can you play a song quickly? Can we get one of these songs?

Tommy: Can we just fucking have focus about what we're doing? We're already doing that. I actually thought you have been on the podcast.

Josh: You guys did a live show. I'm gonna turn this off.

Tommy: I'll turn it off.

Josh: And, um, I'll do a video coming back on, but also I'll do a video after the fact that we can do as a bonus on our Instagram.

Tommy: Yeah. I'm going to turn the light off. I'm going to see if this works. All right, here we go.

Josh: Hey guys, bye. All right, it's The Daily Talk Show. Thank you. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. Leave your Apple Podcast reviews at Apple Podcasts, 5 stars please. Thank you. It didn't work. There's definitely something, a little bit of darkness. Oh wow, you see it?

Tommy: I can see it in my—

Jake: in real life.

Josh: You can see it in real life. The camera, maybe I mean, can you bring it close to the camera and see?

Mason: The mixer looks great.

Josh: That's good.

Jake: Bring it close.

Josh: Nothing. Okay. All right, catch you guys.