#475 – Porn/
- October 4, 2019
Fat Fridays is here, and we’ve got Shortstop Donuts and some incredible cupcakes from our mate Mark. We chat about porn education and addictions, and why nerdy people are better at kissing.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we discuss:
– Our Fat Fridays order
– What Mr. 97’s been up to
– Why nerdy people are better at kissing
– Porn education
– Porn addiction
– Pornhub Insights
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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 475 what's happening guys? What's going
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on fat Friday.
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I've got some biscuit to spread, which we got from Redfern convenience don't look look
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look look look. I even put I pointed that out because I got my finger into it before
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your actual finger yes gronk
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gronk move got my finger claim one but I know you get it you don't pre like okay I organise fat Friday first today, Jay Z's getting into a four I organised. So Mr. 97 and I, we went to get our visas for the US. And it was right across the road from bodies' daycare. But it wasn't there today. But I have access to the car park he's at the other daycare transitioning to another one. But I still have the car pass right?
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He gets a car pocket daycare.
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Well we get drop off and we seen a car park that's underground.
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How long do you reckon you could stay?
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probably half an hour if you had to talk to the people but we stayed for maybe an hour knowing no one proxy because they are all vacant during the day because it's just drop off time and pick up time and this was not drop off time. So anyway, we parked there and we went to the cafe and now that cafe they sell
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Are you just going to getting a box as blue box and it says short star shortstop? This is this episode of fat Fridays dedicated to Dylan torvill pray don't this is his way laughing
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now just because he's smashing the avenues you
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deal became a local if you ever are a local at a donut shop. look yourself in the mirror.
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You know what I mean? Like Can I have a smell of the donuts place? What have you What have you got it straight?
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Well, it's it's it's almost like so it looks like naughty a chew row but it's a loop so it's the donut shape just yet have have some anything I have that before I have a biscuit biscuit? Definitely. Oh my god. I haven't been at naughty or awake and I'm fucking celebrated. So
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should I just quickly should I?
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Look I'm going to stop you right there because I thought I'd organise fat Fridays and
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yeah, we have.
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We have a friend of ours mark.
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So Mark shank, who we met a couple of weeks ago. came in for a coffee.
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What a nice guy. He he has a company called anecdote.
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And he's got a podcast, business storytelling
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anecdote.
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He walks in and we're not when I see someone walking into our studio with a bag I immediately think what if they got me why it's extremely presumptuous. That was
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yesterday, when we had Alex in and she brought us balls. Which I know you're very
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hot. Can I am Friday. I held off for meeting the balls yesterday. Can I have a ball? Is there where's the pools? There was 20 of them.
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I mean, I am five.
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Where's the book? Can you give me a ball? Now we finished them.
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And what do you mean? Where? Where did the lemon ones go?
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Oh, why is he pushing it on it? No. But he 97 eight so many. That it was like to the point where it was Hey.
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Hang on our show Baker. Alex. Yeah. Protein stuff for the three of us.
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And I didn't even get one. You're very rude. Yes. Oh my god. Anyway, so when she came when Alex came in with the box of goodies. I'm always like a like a woman some bring something even if it looks like a gift that he could even have like rapping or whatever. I'm never ever going to presume that it's for me. I wait until they communicate something and say, Hey, this is for you. And like it could play for very long. They could hand it to me. And then I would say how what's in your box? Like what's he like at that point? I still haven't registered that to give you on the a hand. She had the box there and you like it? Oh, what have you made? What? What? What the show back? It comes to the studio. She wasn't the show Baker at that point.
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No. So I mean, she was the Cookie Monster at that point. She sent us send all packages with cooking with brownies. I just laid with it. It's like why is they on our podcast table? Something that holds food because it was a food content
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and so my my thing is don't take away the surprise. Yes. Be like Oh, what is it like? It could have been anything? It could have been something crafty.
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And you know what? There was a surprise in there. And you know what? I didn't get one of them. I know if
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anyone anyway, Mark
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has his back on me. Mark, by
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the way. Yeah. Did you actually finish although very small. Yeah.
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How many did you have?
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It was the equivalent of a maybe two lemon slice.
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How many balls
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did you have? 1234. Maybe 12.
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Oh my god. They were about like, what seven or eight lemon ones when we left
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to be full fair. I'm pretty sure he did say he's going to eat so many of them.
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And the world today and tomorrow. Sorry. Yesterday and today. Naughty and now I'm going to dial it in because i don't know i'm not keeping a tally of white but
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anyway anyway, Mark shank Sorry, buddy. Getting off the thing. Anyway, Mark walks in. Josh does an issue but he does.
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The way that you interrupted me. It sound like we didn't edit there. There was no way. There's no
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way But Mark walked in and he just he had I immediately thought Oh, this looks like food. I thought I maybe he's brought some food for our coffee because we're gonna have a coffee Canada. Mate, Mark, I opened this my face lit up, lit up. I'm going to do this.
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You're gonna have to watch the video at the daily talk. show.com I film every episode. Also, if you watch on YouTube, just subscribe because I see that we've got about 60% of the people who watch our videos. don't subscribe and also like it, please Thank you.
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On the front it says little cupcakes Melbourne here we go open up.
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Literally will put a photo on our Instagram storey but you should go watch the video.
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The little chocolate cupcakes with a thick dollop of icing but then it's got an edible the daily talk show brand sticker on it. How did they print me but I'm what
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is the ink printer like Oh, sorry, what's a it's
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a food dye printer. So anyway, this event done my fat Fridays. And you've delivered the good buddy. This is amazing. 97
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what's what's been happening?
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Well, not too much. Actually.
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I thought I could maybe well throw to him and then I could take some bites. But is that all you got?
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Yeah, well, I mean, I can run through my life back now. She won. save the best for last. Okay, we can save that. We got out. We got a visa sorted. Yeah, that's good.
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Yes. You went to the concert? What was that experience? Like
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if you caught up with a maid tonight? Yeah. And they said, What do you been up to bro? Like what's been happening?
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Yeah, well not probably mentioned the visa thing.
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And then we use MMO. Inside, you know that?
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I just saw it
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going? Well, no, we actually we actually just got a message from Harry. Big brother. He's coming back. The casting, the casting call has been put out and he says to pass it on, scooter Derek.
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scooter should apply. That'd be cool. Can we help him in the campaign?
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That would be funny. Don't you think I can being serious?
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I wonder if people who are fans of reality shows do the best. Yeah.
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Well, what's Holly Kelly was a fan. She's released an article. Oh my God, that's a big spoonful of that. This coffee. Way too much there. It's
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definitely not like laying
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on your body.
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Since you were 12. It's actually
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I think the biggest shock my buddies had recently was my Saturday.
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That was so good. I just admin wise, I feel like you've been looking after Instagram. I cracked it because I'm when I was away. You didn't die. I was fed. How many times we're going to post? like four times? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, five times four times five. You didn't get around to it, which is ok. But was not ideal was not ideal. I wasn't that happy. But anyway, you fixed it. You've been smashing it on social. Can we write back to people now? Yeah. On comments. Yeah, yes. The next day, I think because you've been doing great getting it all posted out. You've noticed on Instagram. But I've tried to hold back on doing too much to the commenting. Can you just read out some of the comments. And Tommy and I can read it. You know, give us give us a response.
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Are you doing real time admin where we say something in the hill?
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Yeah, right. That would be good. So I'll just go through the latest posts and see what people are saying. And then we will respond.
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I'm gonna I'm gonna have a short supply. Okay.
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It's a lot. My brains already like buzzing. Is it because I haven't had lunch? Have you had breakfast? No.
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Dude,
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have you? Yeah, I'm ready to coffee. There's like three meals already. Okay, so you might better than you then.
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I just think that it just shows your lack of thought to food. I like lack of thought. No, I guess it's fat free to do what you want. So I right. Yeah, we have a role we don't foster young my son gets into us. We call him young. Amazing. Because he's that's the annoying wonderful 97 That was cute with
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before you start bringing out your body to talk about that for a sec show. We had a few people writing to doing heart eyes. Grace loved it. But what a great site
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licence at this track, Mr.
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97 Jason, what do you grow? So
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writing the regrowth on Mr. 97?
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I caught Miss 97 on the couch with my son just being an absolute TV.
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Like so cute. I'm
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discussing
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what the fuck
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down watch the video. The reason that big? I can't help it. I sorry. Now I can't comment on
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peccary on a Friday today.
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Because the other thing too is. I remember. I don't know if anyone else has done this. If you're listening and you you know, I'm talking about geeks. A better kisses. Then the average person what? Huh? So I'm look it up. 97 I remember hearing this fact as a kid. And I was very happy with him. So geeks and what you're complaining about every found anything.
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Six legit raisins. geeky guys are better in bed. I think that's really what you're searching for. Isn't it? Okay. Yeah.
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That's what I was looking for. What? What are they saying? There's one that is related to
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the lead down to role playing. Yeah. He'll get you some of that. Well read dirty talk. compresses on that.
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What's the what's the website? So we're just not plagiarising What are we good men project com Good Men project com
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loves to learn your body.
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Plays if you're listening watching just think of JJ after every
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game written think of this one. Video games have taught him finger dexterity.
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This is a bullshit article though there's a legitimate
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This is great. So to
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finalise it
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was it was nice. You say six things. geeks get things done.
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Yeah, sure. What else?
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cakes. No kinky people.
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Do they do? No um, I guess there is sort of that
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stereotype that they're sort of into cosplayers because if they were going to Comic Con and parking or something, I mean,
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I would have always thought about kinky stuff like what people into WeChat or just not status quo shit and he's How do you learn that you're not into that you're into that shit? Like, there has to be a point. If you like being tied up or whatever, which is quite common.
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You're talking to the guy who put a squeegee and he's
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trying to say Bro, I think people just trying to get inside I
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trying to get inside into how you work out out that sniffing mo as you orgasm is
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I've never done it before but that's a nine thing isn't it? That's how people do it.
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But how do you do that first so if Mr. Nice even do you know even what I said then? No.
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Mo what is amor? Isn't it
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you buy from sex shops. It's like It's like you're getting higher than just like alcohol not alcohol but it's like this super potent Have you ever smelled like a chemical and it's like gone into your head and you're like oh my god what? I shouldn't have smelled that.
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I mean Eucalyptus the headlight sprays The only thing Yeah, so there's some
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really fucking white What about the head? I've missed a bit there
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now you know you know the eucalyptus shampoo that you use for treatment innocent baby.
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Yeah, what that what if you
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got a super strong smell that clears your nasal part and it just when you inhale A lot of it
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Yeah, so that times 50 and it just like snippet and then all of a sudden you don't it doesn't really do anything but then a second ladies start getting lightheaded look it up and it's a bite from sex shops. It's discussed it's not sold as mo Let's all help you ejaculate quick it like Well no. I think the reason I heard someone someone that I know said that they sniffed it as a orgasms. And you doing is imagine what I could imagine is getting between kids and cast.
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what's what's the kids in cars gonna do?
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If Derek's kids are listening, they're trying to work out what
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people who aren't in radio just hear you say kids in cars kids
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aren't listening to this right now and your kids are in the cars you
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would have not been
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a point. Yeah, and I shouldn't say kids in cars stop it's like saying I'm about to do a spoiler. I've done this.
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What's the thing you read?
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I think what it does and look it up Mr. Nice everybody. Mo
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I will try that MOLI
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Mo Mo Mo it's a short for a chemical to but I think the blood rush to the head the lightness in the in like the white makes you feel that be something combined with the Jackie elation or the orgasm. Do you remember the first time is it when you were young? The first time that you a Jackie elated? Yeah, I mean for a man. I mean, if you're, if you're a woman, listening, there's a time where you go from not having sperm to having sperm. And so it is a weird moment where you realised that comes out and something comes out. And so
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getting busy, like it's actually the first time it's like a drug, isn't it?
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I can't really remember.
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I just remember it's just like, my ears ringing and like almost going real light headed.
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Things happen when you get a compliment.
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Did you find out?
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I will not try it yet. And what does it do? It's called erotic inhaling.
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Expand.
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And just it's just an article here is a photo of just a bloke with Josh as most sniffing
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to start, what's the article? What side is it? I've become?
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I mean, okay, so this is on vice, and there's also one on salon.com.
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Get into it. Give us some facts around it.
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He's now been said like, you know, when those dodgy sides just start sending back in physical effects can include impaired, decrease impaired or decrease coordination and muscle control, chest pain, increased libido, nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea. Yeah. Warm sensations. That's what you want your temporary erectile dysfunction.
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So yeah, I've had a couple of times nothing like coming to a bit of diarrhoea and chest pain. I was saying,
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I was at a party once. Yeah. And
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what were you just doing then is the monitor just the battery ran Oregon. That's all we can say.
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I'm, I was at a party once. And we're on the dance floor house party, one of the best cracking house party. I know you didn't go to house parties, but house parties that would just be heaving just, there's just a dance dance floor in the living room. It's just did some something happens with stars align, and everyone's come and just oh, my God is that person, that person then we're just like, the house gets trashed as the one in my house. So I wasn't feeling What did you call
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those parties
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was a house party come to a house party. This house party was like not far from here. And I just remember, there was this girl dancing on the dance floor. And she had this thing in her hand and she was walking around. I was trying to work out what she's doing. She's holding it to people's noses. And they're like, sniffing it. And then it got to me and I was like, okay,
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snifter, like kind of fucking Meyer and people are trying to hand you know,
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and she puts out of my night. Oh, well, I remember. I mean, I remember I didn't knock me out it just makes you all those things feel a bit lightheaded. If you sniff tapes of it, you would. I woke up with my brain felt like a dried sponge. Like I just felt so bad. Like it's there's nothing good about it for you.
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I mean, the sniffy didn't look that severe. Notice.
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Yeah, it kicks in in 30 seconds. Yeah, that last for two to three minutes. It's it's pretty quick.
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Dude. It is so bizarre.
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I don't want to do it now.
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So I'm going back to the the gates and kissing. I want to you right, yes. It's funny. You bit Flemmi from all that Scotty
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the I want you to know the answer of why geeks a good kisses.
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Well, I your appreciate this. They don't just learn how to do something. They master it.
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Get that YK squid kisses.
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Me taught me something else. Find it. It's definitely that.
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That's what I sort of live to embrace.
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geeks and gone kisses calm. Josh is done.
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Should I just tell you?
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Yeah, tell me that. It's just lovers and sexy. So okay. Type in saliva.
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You know, spell that word. Spell it. SALIVA.
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Just thinking about that word and you makes me feel sick.
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So geeks tend to have more saliva.
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But what does take a good, good kisser? But the quality of a kiss normally is related to the level of saliva. I disagree. The more saliva the better.
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That's fucking disgusting. If you think about it, kissing is fucking disgusting.
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Yeah, by kissing
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our love kissing but you know what I'm saying? Think about it. exchanging saliva. Like when you think about yourself kissing Aranda. Like and you think about if you just saw someone on the street, right? And you just go kissing them?
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Like, if you're going down on someone's worse.
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I'm not saying it's not they say they are all really fucking gross things when you think about them. The difference is when you're feeling it and you're attracted. It's lovely. It's it's, it becomes super nice. And when you're in the moment of kissing.
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Loving Are you done?
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Yeah. But what I'm saying is, it's like saying my hand look at the fucking hand. I had a moment once when I was looking at my hand I was like, this is showing
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Tommy's revealed the
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intimacy issues in general. Like you think that food issues with my balls? Where are you both?
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Did you find anything on the saliva thing? Now you've made that up? That's a made up.
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Why? Why do you need more saliva for kissing? So
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what right saliva kissing or something? I just there is definitely an article about it.
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It sounds silly. It same sounds silly. But what you're trying to say is because we saw salvation from your favourite saliva when you don't add a great kisser.
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It reminds me of the same if you have seen another teen movie. Yeah, the older lady kissing the girl. And I almost like put some sort of glue. So when they they go that really gross you out you don't like spirit?
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I don't like your spirit. I don't like thinking about your saliva.
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It doesn't bother me. Maybe that's my kink or something. Maybe it is maybe I like saliva. Do Is that thing said Yeah. Like I'm not opposed to I'm never like, Jackie you a little bit like that. If it's a case and it was the library, would you?
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Not with my wife but I mean, just from the I think watching if I was watching you and break kiss, and I was saying all that. I'll just be like, Oh, that's fine. But if I was very rude if I was in it, and it's not if I was in this position with my wife, okay.
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You've made it up my only why I watched a Lisa lien documentary. This is life. Hashtag This is life. Yep. latest one is on pornography. Oh, yeah.
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They had a
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nice clean boys. What? 10 months clean.
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Is that true?
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I haven't watched porn this year. I told you that. Just stop saying because I could have thought I said no fat website. So they had the guy who started no fat and movement. Oh, yeah. Do you know why it's called? I know. Like, that's masturbation though. I haven't like it's there's a difference between masturbate like not watching porn and masturbating. I sort of got the Geminis like. He told me I haven't had sex in 400 days. Why was he telling you that? Do you think I had
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to come up.
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He know the surprising thing was it. It just sort of was like
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just happen. He said it.
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He said Where were you? Were just training. And I started training with him and the girl that he was with. And then he said, Hey, man, I haven't had any sex in the last 400 and something days. Yeah, but then he ended up telling me that he had slept with somebody and the broken that no, that's why he said I just broke the 400 I think something it was going on uh he was like doing celibacy you know like doing the voluntary celibate like
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the this the no porn and no alcohol connected with us just getting completely drunk and watching
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sounds like that. And was it exercise?
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Today room meditating to get through the night.
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Might as well if you just gonna close my eyes. What else?
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I just connected it. No, I did to the actual thing. I was like, no alcohol. And then I was thinking, Well, I haven't watched porn in a while. So I'll go no porn. And it was within that, you know, January. And I was like, I was like, if I do that, and that I feel better for it. Anyway.
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I was watching the documentary. It was just funny. They were talking about. We just had a bunch of guys talking about addictions of porn. It's a full on thing it is. But it sounds not to underplay whatever they're experiencing. But there is something a little bit pathetic about these guys. Just sort of like the real sort of upset and it looks at us like yeah, you know,
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addictions. Don't you agree?
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If anything? That's like me, like getting really fucking riled up about my food addiction. I'm sure you haven't. Maybe, but I know, there's just seemed something funny about a guy being like, I, I I'm, you know, masturbate at least, or you know, watch porn at least five times a day. And I know what to do there. And like breeze like we meant to feel sorry for Yeah, it's a self inflicted.
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Like, the 80 one's an interesting one. Because you have to eight as a human to survive the porn, you don't need it to survive. But some like addiction can be a weakness is definitely not the word to connect it to. But there is a level of uncontrolled ability that they find in themselves to something so because porn, the thing is a is a it gives you pleasure, right? And so I remember years ago as a kid, there we go. Being I remember like, it was it's a form of escapism, masturbating.
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Because I can meditation if you don't meditate. Anything, not relaxation, nothing.
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masturbation and relaxation. Definitely No,
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you cannot bring on hang on hang on, there is a difference because one sins you super high. The other one is about disconnecting from your, from if you're thinking about stuff, though, stimulus permit, just sit back meditation is about now I'm talking about masturbation is about vicious, back and forth. And then a climax in some,
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you know, you were saying there was a distinction between? Do you think there's a big distinction between masturbating without porn and masturbating with porn?
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There's a big difference. I mean, I think if you just have been using porn, it becomes harder to visualise it harder to think about it.
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Like, Eric. And the funny thing is, all of these things are so personal, right? Like so for some people, they can eat a donut. And they don't need to then have six cupcakes.
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And then for some people, they can have one ball and save a ball for the night.
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Exactly. We're all different. So the thing is that for some people, it's like, if you watch porn or something that then affects you. In your intimate relationships. Yeah, and but other people that might not
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exactly but it's like saying, drinking is bad for absolutely everybody. There's some people who can just have one that when you think about it, stop drinking for three weeks and have another glass of wine or two at dinner. Don't drink for three months, like but but I definitely have to. Like that's an interesting existence, because that's not my existence. Because I think about it a lot. Like, the thing about drinking is I have a good night or it's like, and then I think about that, and you can get into the patent of going on and get pissed again.
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When you think about alcohol. For people who have only just started listening to us. I didn't drink alcohol. For the first like 29 years of my life. Really, you're 28 years
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solid. When was you had if you had like maybe two drinks in that time? Yeah,
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I'd have I'd have like Yeah, probably that whenever someone's like, Oh, you should try this or whatever. It's like a nice like a fucking you know, coconut thing was like cold pina colada.
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Like have a pina colada. I'm okay. They got me cross the line because I cannot
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wait. Yeah. And so I had that, those types of things, but have a bit of red wine. Now. However, I do see the slide destructive nature in my mind. Whereas I'm like, I wonder if I just kept going. I wonder if I like, had a few more. I wonder like, because I have never, I've only ever had a bottle. The most I've ever had is sort of like, brain I've shared a bottle, but she's only really had half a glass and I've had the rest. But there is that sense in your mind where it's like, I wonder what, like EDCRBTNUC people? Yeah, random breath test. It's a show on Australian TV. I
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love that TV. Yeah, it's so good. It's bogus. Just kidding.
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But I was thinking okay, what like, they just those people who are getting stopped tour just start over. They had a day where I was I've been at and what would it take? Like, is that is there any reason to go further? here because he, it feels good. So does it feel good to go from that tipsy to black out drunk?
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Now there's a point where you just like not enjoying it is just Yeah, yeah, sure. Like and so then you go wise where's the case for even doing that? You don't it's a it's a cord up it's a momentum thing. You start having one be have another have another have another? And then you stand up and then you like all the fog. I'm so pissed. And sometimes you can turn.
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I've got get angry about
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blackout drunk off little. Like, yeah, maybe 10 days before, but then I've drank 10 beers and felt sober before. And so sometimes you don't know. Sometimes it's you have haven't eaten enough or you tired or something happens. But there's not I didn't think
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Yeah. Just you punishing for more bottles of wine or not for just another bottle and what I would do?
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Yeah, you just get you end up just getting sleepy. Just Oh,
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well. That's the whole thing. When I get up every single time I've just gone to sleep. Yeah, it is false. I promise. You think he's fun, though. On a very on occasion, do it maybe once a week. On a Friday.
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I think it's excessive. Once a week.
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I thought you were gonna say once to six months, once a week.
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Once a week, just one down on a Friday night. I know that you don't want that to be your standard. You don't want that to be the way that you wind down. Because I've noticed
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a difference. I don't think it is winding down to be on yes, I do is because I've been there wanting down. Friday, Saturday's sometimes Thursday, Friday, and then into Saturday.
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He's the different Alright, this is what's interesting, say with porn, everyone will say okay, the thing with porn is like, it's not the real sexual experience. Like it's not the proper intimate experience. You know, it's maybe demeaning or aggressive or what all those types of things. However, we're using that one word to describe everything. And so it's the same with alcohol, for instance, the difference between being at home and having wine and getting drunk off of that, versus being at bleats nightclub. Was that Mary Warren? And Eric UDL or something? I'm guessing that's what made the difference between being out in a socialist setting and trying to pick up and having new deals, versus being with your partner with red wine and getting drunk? Very different? Don't you think? Or no?
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Yes, there is a difference. The distinguish, the senior in fact has to be what pack? The distinguishing fact has to be what is your scenario? Is it is this is a problem when people serve up. You know, what do you call it like a descriptive sort of, you know, you're serving up like, example, like, what if this versus that, what you're talking about is the person that can on a Friday night, just have one or two drinks and that is it. But this we're so nuanced, humans so complex, and there is the person that can do that. Then there's a person that has had a bit of a problem with it the whole life they haven't addressed and they have one or two, and they've reduced this V drinking to one or two on the week.
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With I guess, a family and if you've had an alcoholic, parent or family. Yeah, there's
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a lot of considerations. Have
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you ever been drunk? 97?
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No, no. No.
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Know I made a deal. Was that the closest?
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No, I haven't had a full.
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I wouldn't. I wouldn't have had a full drink of alcohol before. I might have had a shot senior.
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Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
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I had a dream last night that I broke my pelvis my 10 month, alcohol free and I felt so bad. No as in like, I just felt so good. That's coming from. I don't know. It was something about them. Yeah, I just had that. We felt bad. felt so fucking bad was like a nightmare. But it said
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everyone's different on the porn thing. 97 the young people are talking about like education within schools. Did you have education specifically around porn? No.
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It was not. It's it's still. I mean, you guys probably had it as well, but it's like contraceptive sex and all that sort of stuff. Nothing, nothing on porn. So just like a topic there and touch it. Because it's so complex.
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Yeah. I don't think you should never watch porn. I think it's what happens with shutting down. That's the point. That's the point.
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I think there's I mean, yeah, it's, it's sort of I think it's probably still a maturity thing as well. Like, people aren't going to take any of that seriously. Anyway. Even if you're even if you're doing in year 1211. Year 10.
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To be honest, there's a you just become curious about it. I mean, what's the stage you're talking about? I want to watch it.
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That would have been me. That's what you want, isn't it? Because young people will need to be curious.
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Curiosity is a great trait. But what I'm saying is
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going full blown churchy? Sounds like your life? Absolutely. No, for No, no, no, what I'm saying.
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schools that the reason I can imagine School's Out putting their fingers in that high is that once you open that door to the pie, you talk to something about you talk to a kid about something that you're trying to educate them on. point is they will want to go and see it and I'm not. And I'm saying I I definitely would have if a teacher said look, there's a single point, Mike, was that fucking Yeah, show me.
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The thing is, then they can at least control the narrative. So they're like, hey, the thing to know with porn is when five men Jackie light on this woman, that's a reality is not reality. Yeah. And it's, you know, there's they talked in the documentary about consent. And within porn, you don't really see the consent. You don't see that conversation of like, the intimate moment of deciding that you how's it going have sex?
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Yeah, of course not. And so I'm not saying never to watch it. I'm just saying he's my biggest thought within it. are surrounding our environment now thinking as stimulus towards our thinking determines our environment. Right?
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So what does that show you?
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If If you hang around bad people show and you do I say if you do negative things, it's it's playing over in your head right there is like your inner environment. And I explain this. So the thing that the you so your mind is a reflection of your experience, right? you're experiencing could be whatever you do, the people you hang around, have gone through you behave all those things. And for me, porn is one of those things that you can take off the table you can site has no effect on you. But I think if you take it off the table, you can see how it has affected you. Because you can think it doesn't affect you when you watch it or like until you start to then and honestly this is for me right? I'm not talking about for you because Amanda is there is love for
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whatever a bait whatever somehow become the porn guy to be clear, I'm just having a conversation.
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And so it can affect your thinking is just an
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early 70s the porn guy.
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If we
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think about stripping, right, you happy being the porn guy?
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No, not really. Why not? What do you associate? Why are you embarrassed about porn?
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Not I don't think it's embarrassment. I just don't think it reflects the best of me. Like you don't feel the greatest in that moment. You know what I mean? Like, you're not sad, isn't it? Yes. I'm sad about that. You
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know? He's He's an idea. I use I use proud know that you watch porn now. So then the route that you catch the bus?
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I mean, it's just like, Okay, so then you true
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like, Yeah, I know then put the put it like this is do you see pour your viewing of porn, a reflection of you? Like, do you want that to be a part? Like No, the tradesmen? What sort
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of show you watching.
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But the bus the bus could be. Together, I can catch the bus, I gotta go to work. And my point being the, because I think there is, so it's too boo, right? porn, this conversation could be uncomfortable for a bunch of people, do you think you might keep your porn viewing secret from your partner? I don't think it's a positive thing, just in what you put out to the universe. So if
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you don't know, so 97 doesn't have a partner. So through his context,
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what you as a person and what you what your core values are. Hi, is it isn't an alignment with the values. And I think this is such a small thing that you can write off. But if if our actions dictate our values, our true value, so you are as good as your actions. And it's not in alignment with what you think your values are. So and I'm not saying I'm fucking in alignment with my values, because I still, I'm still flawed, but I think it is what
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are yours go through? What are your values?
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on time?
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Yeah, you can.
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You can, you can be on time. Now. I think what I value in life is people around me that I trust, I value friendship, and connection with people. So with this, like what we do my relationship with my wife, because as I've been living in alignment with my values, or just feeling okay about how existing is, is something that I'm so happy. So there's fun So
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the thing is that what you're feeling is not the porn but you're feeling a guilt towards the porn, then
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what so what is the guilt? Sign of the the
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guilt is a sign of programming based on how you're brought up?
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Why
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don't you think that there isn't the guilt associated potentially with the out of alignment with my values? And who I think I want to be? watching porn since I've fucking 11 I've watched enough porn for years a lot more porn, the midnight seven point problem. Are you good? anyway? Not at all? I don't think it is at all. I know you're saying this. I mean, I guess
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I didn't know. So I understand. But I'm just I'm just trying to deeper, dig deeper. So that third thought so the first thought is,
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no, that's my values. So this is a third thought for me. This is I didn't give a fuck. I just watched one because I like it. That's a piece of work for me. And so I've worked at I would never have articulated like this A year ago
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at all. And so the I guess the question is, Are you too hard on yourself?
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And
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not and not not for this? I don't say that. I don't need to watch porn ever again. I don't. Yeah, I don't know what value it will bring me.
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So you've made a guest like, Well, how do you say 97? When you hear Tommy talk about it? What do you what do you? What do you take out of it?
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He just cleared his browser history. You
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know, I probably look at it in a similar way. I probably look at it in a similar way that Tommy does. I like it's it's a it's a thing that happens, but I don't know how much. I mean, yeah. I don't know how much value it brings, like, you feel you feel guilty afterwards and just
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be a connection? Could they be a connection to how we look at women in everyday life? Could that the way we look at women be altered by us watching porn? Yes. And so my pattern growing up, like think about it, you grow up checking out chicks, right? It was a thing I'll just but I had a moment where I realised how much I would check out chicks. Because I'd been checking that check since back in grad school. Yeah, maybe earlier. And so then it's just, that's a patterning right? And so you gotta go. That is something that I don't need. Like, you got to grow out of that. And there is definitely patterns from being single. And your pursuit of you know, life and and what you want in life to being men in a relationship. Like there's a whole lot of unlearning idea. I've done I think so What about Mike?
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Chocolate using chocolate as an example, you have chocolate that is 30% actual cocoa or whatever. It's got a bunch of other stuff in it. It's got a lot of sweet stuff. It's naughty. And then you have 90% chocolate, really high quality stuff. Imagine porn is like chocolate. Which one you've got the marvellous creations, which is the five guy scenario that I put out. And then you have the 90% chocolate, which is maybe something more sort of pure in what
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he tried to make a reference to porn.
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Yes, like a couple, consensually, having intercourse having a great time.
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Online. It's just the porn that you'd watch on Fox still if you mates parents had access to now I think that was most there wasn't there was no kind of trashing It was like, it was like a scene out of a movie. And it was a
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scene out of a movie. So I think that's sort of,
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you know, that'd be a low quality. They think because it's all like little while and what sort of thing there's make love not porn.com which the creators were on. Or, you know, people who use the service was on Lisa Ling's Darko. And it's just these, these average looking couple, like, I'm extremely average, but they film themselves having sex and then distributed.
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Yes. And so it's about that's that's
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isn't it? Sad? You just gurgling this? You
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know, you have to sign up for it. Yeah, Joe, can you give me
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an interesting
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ways this metaphor guy ways.
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So that my point is that it's just like, I look at all of these products, all of the thing within the category and say, bad. What about? What about someone who has intimacy issues, and this is their way of pleasuring themselves?
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Of course, and this is, this is why I've said at the start, for me my experience, and that's why you might be able to, you might be able to do it. I The reason I asked me seven about Morty, how do you feel about you doing that? Because there's a good gauge of what he really feels
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bad guilt? No, but is that guilt associated with, you know, being like, locking you your door or whatever. In fact, my mom's back in left time and you hear the key takeaways in the series, the fact that car keys is almost like a Pavlovian effect.
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That's happening, right? Yeah.
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Fuck, once mom gets to individualise shop.
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She has two kilometres to get
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on the clock.
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Like, and then you have the moment of IR maybe, and maybe, you know, maybe she's fucking she's gonna come back early.
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Yeah, I mean, reusable bags happen to young kids, young kids watching porn. So I just,
45:21
I think I know what you're getting at. Right? Because there is a hot there would be a bunch of people that say, you know, like, explore, you know, you're not open to allowing those feelings and sort of like going with that. You know, you can imagine this. There's advocates of this stuff like intimacy with your partner, watch porn decide. This reality doesn't work for everybody. And so that's for me, I'm not telling you not to watch porn. Yeah, watch pocket and make your own decision. I
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can see the I can see the value in both sides.
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And I don't think I thought before I did it that I needed to do this thing for some big reason. Right? Like a
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crucible moment.
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It was like I actually hadn't done it for a while. And so maybe I just keep going and so
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without brand What about Brent, Dr. Bryant? From bonds, right dental
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connected to this conversation. Isn't had chocolate in 23 years. Wow. That's phenomenal. And when I say Chocolate,
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chocolate,
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chocolate he know he
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actually doesn't eat any chocolate.
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He hasn't.
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Yeah,
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that is phenomenal. Like you always go. You think it must be so bad that you've gone off of like,
46:48
yeah, Like what? Like, there's got to be a point where everyone's sitting down been like, Brent, my name is sort out your chocolate. him he was just like, one day I was like, I'm gonna do it for a year. Doing it again. And then it becomes like an identity thing. It's like I yeah, I don't
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know. I could I could do more time off alcohol like because you do start really identifying with it. It's like a podcast you do what you do to do three and then before you know you've done 475 Some things are more positive than others, right like the podcast thing for us to do if
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you were watching porn, you wouldn't have time to do this as well. So it's like
47:22
yeah, yeah, that was a joke.
47:27
That is probably a reality for some like full on porn addicts. They've got all these dreams and goals but they just love watching to me
47:34
Can you give us a you know you were talking yesterday 97 about porn stats and what people around? That was awful.
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I'm just curious as to symbolise Yeah What were you saying the service so there's porn hub have a section of their website was porn hub. It's a porn site. They have statistics part of their website called porn insights where they do a bunch of stats them in their searches everything
48:03
just have that browser open as well just in case someone walks Oh,
48:06
no, I was just looking at stats. Is it on point did you have to go to porn hub.com
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forward slash insights right you're using our work internet to look up absolutely lightning and you know
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I'm sure the employment contract and something about porn
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delay. Yeah.
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Yeah, guy.
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So stats important porn hub. com forward slash stats is what you said.
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Yeah, I mean sites. They've got strange ones like Avengers and Avengers characters.
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This is this is just what people are searching people
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are searching so I wouldn't Yeah, yeah. But I mean, the the interesting stuff is around like when you look at like bandwidth and and city so they've correlated the highest. The cities with the most traffic. I mean,
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the reason Tommy doesn't look upon is because he doesn't have Indian
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actually getting too much data, just yeah.
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Anyway, so I can just imagine you just the reason you had to give up was because you were using it.
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Like that's the next level of brazen bank, like the uncomfortable feeling. VR headset? Well, what? Like
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you saw something on that there should be?
49:34
No, they're just, they can be looking right, Adam? Anyway going?
49:37
Oh, yeah. So I mean, so just going back to the cities, the US is so new york city is the highest city with the most traffic. London is next Paris, la Chicago, Osaka in Japan and then it's Sydney and then Melbourne. Wow.
49:57
Yeah. So that's where in top 10
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you were, yeah. Where's travelling to?
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Sydney was we were there the other way? Definitely.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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No, but
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I believe ash Williams is playing and
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you know, but there's they also do awesome stats around like if there's a sporting event on they'll show you the drop in the amount of people viewing and accessing the website. So when the NBA 2019 NBA Finals were on there was a 47% drop. Important interview Rondo important important viewership. Wow. All deal interval. What's the funny thing is for Golden State Warriors. San Fran only dropped a 10%
50:52
Yeah, sure. Yeah. It wasn't local to the like, it wasn't it was in Toronto the game wasn't it?
50:58
Yeah. Well, the other great ones are when Facebook and Instagram go out. Oh, yes. bikes. Yeah, you get a get a 19% increase. And so what are people searching?
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What are the top keywords?
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categories?
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Where you have it's all about it's,
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I can I guess a few key words. Sure. Step mom. No, sorry statements
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about yourself that
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mother step sister milk. And
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and
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now that's my 3ds This is a snippet.
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Definitely not. Okay, so these these are the searches that defined 2018
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teen 2013 year it turns into this my fourth.
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Okay. Number one, stormy Daniels. Oh, yeah, that's Trump.
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Trump's alleged
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Yep. Number two fortnite. Want to have a skewed number three, four. k. Getting that high res? Yeah. Which get on them. Number four, right, man take food on them. I love that you just remove yourself from my otter enough. fast enough internet. Romantic, romantic. You know what that is?
52:09
That's just a bunch of psychos just like, you know, on a to bring some romance back. They thinking I'm being discovered UOD
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thing. It's like, it's when you bring it to your partner. Like let's let's watch something romantic. I mean, that's the thing when people decide with their partner, like, let's watch.
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Let's watch some porn together.
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That's an interesting conversation.
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I mean, I wonder if you use the same key words.
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You start typing a letter? Yeah.
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Why don't we just type in romantic instead?
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Yeah, they these are these are the ones that you're going for Tommy? We just want the top so those are the searches that define these are the most search for terms. Okay. Lesbian is number one hentai? Then hentai? What's that?
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Like? Some kind of? bondage is
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a Japanese porn movie. Pain time.
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This is back in search results
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in time. Anime
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anime. Okay.
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Japanese that's that Japanese audience? Yeah. The third one is milk. The fourth is stepmom the fifth is Japanese. The six is mom seven is what are people doing? Now? In all seriousness, what do we think it is? It's 100% Why are we talking
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why we're talking about this? Why are we talking about aren't we talking about the fact that now
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they
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have you ever typed in mom never promised the idea of someone saying daddy if you ever said daddy to me,
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dude was white like its own
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dad at you turn off the audio book and you'd be done.
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So funny reference to I've had sex during audiobooks. Thank you, sir. The dip is the classic.
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Is there any other? The seventh one is pain? It is Asian ninth is massage 10th is Korean. Right?
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I got all of mine in my top in the top 10
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or your choices? All Yeah, all the ones. That's interesting. Interesting Friday one.
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I think you I think you appreciate some of these every minute on porn hub. 207,000 videos viewed 63,000 visitors 7708 gigabytes of data transferred. And much 7708 gigabytes of data transmit and 12 videos uploaded. Every minute. Yeah.
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What are we going to call the title the app?
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Where's my ball? 4403 petabytes of data transferred in a year too long was the title. Wow. That's crazy. Isn't it?
54:53
Nice. Yeah, that's great. Can you finish off with your la fact?
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I can. Yeah, give me a second.
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Also want to know the title of today's it just so we can't bury the lead? I think we almost need to just pull on porn. Addiction is real.
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I think porn is a great title or
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jerkin? It's gonna fuck us with filters. Now.
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There's this podcast. It's very popular called.
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My dad wrote a porno.
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Yeah. Interesting fact. I hadn't told you guys on the Qantas flight home
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that they had podcast.
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Yeah. They had a video show. So it was through, you know, on the is like TV shows and it goes to HBO click on HBO. And it was in there. So they'd sold the live series of live shows.
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I know as near as I can. You know, it's like HBO special. I think Boucher did a deal with Virgin or whatever they got on every podcast went on their internet on the virgin entertainment
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show. Yeah, this is beyond that. This is the video version, which I thought so I can see it. That's, that's cool. Because there was also the podcast one bunch of mom and Mayor and podcast one podcast, la fact.
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Can I bring it back to bone?
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Yeah, you can. So every day Mr. 97 brings in LA fact to the table because we're heading to LA on the 30th 30th 30th of October. And we're doing 21 shows from Los Angeles. Los Angeles. La. In fact missing it says perfect.
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Alright, share some great fact.
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Another fact that I heard in the documentary fat stands for no it doesn't stand for anything. We fat It is like the word for masturbation and the reason that the where the word comes from tonight. Yeah, it's the sound sound.
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Onomatopoeia.
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Onomatopoeia Onomatopoeia out of here
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What's it crash or
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sound? Yeah.
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Anyway, the average the average time spent on porn hub in LA is 10 minutes and 48 seconds.
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10 minutes 48 average time spent on porn hub
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in LA the watch time is 10 minutes and 48 seconds. Hmm. Fair enough. La also has is the largest boulder that's ever been transported. waggon 340 tonnes
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of rock now.
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Anyway now in LA either way.
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Can we do a show from there? The big boulder. I've got to drink 2.5 litres of water guys. Hurry up. But it's a daily talk show. If you've got anything that you want to add to this conversation. Hi at the daily talk show.com please send us an email. If If you completely disgusted by this episode, let us know as well. I think we've done it in a tasteful way. We've been open. It hasn't been smarty.
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yet. No, no. Why are you looking at me?
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Well, I mean, you're the guy. You're the URL. Apparently you've become an outfielder. Quite the change. Anyway, the daily talk show live a survey to you can also screen grab the show. Take a photo tune into the storey. Otherwise, we'll see tomorrow guys. Thank you Mark shank, by the way. Thank you. Yes, that's
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all I need to have one.
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Yeah, I know we had the moment.
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