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Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 475.

Tommy: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Fat Friday.

Josh: I've got some biscuit spread, which we got from Redfern convenience store. Look, look, look, look, look.

Tommy: I even— I pointed that out because I got my finger into it before.

Josh: Your actual finger?

Tommy: Yeah, gronk, gronk move. Got my finger. Clean one, but I know you get it. You don't pre— like, okay, I organised Fat Friday for us today. Geez, he's getting into it before I organized. So, um, uh, Mr. 97 and I, we went to get our visas for the US, and it was right across the road from Bodhi's daycare. Bodhi wasn't there today, but I have access to the car park. He's at the other daycare transitioning to another one, but I still have the car pass.

Josh: Wait, He gets a car park at daycare.

Tommy: Well, we get drop-off and it's within a car park that's underground.

Josh: How long do you reckon you could stay?

Tommy: Uh, probably half an hour if you had to talk to the people. But we, we stayed for maybe an hour knowing no one parks there because they're all vacant during the day because it's just drop-off time and pickup time, and this was not drop-off time. So anyway, we parked there and we went to the cafe, and at that cafe They sell—

Josh: he's just going, getting a box. It's blue box and it says Shortstop. Shortstop.

Tommy: This is, this episode of Fat Friday is dedicated to Dylan Torreville.

Josh: 3D Dill. This is his— why are you laughing?

Mason: No, just because he smashed them down when he was here.

Tommy: Dill became a local. If you ever are a local at a doughnut shop, look yourself in the mirror. You know what I mean?

Josh: Like, can I have a smell of the donuts, please? What have you got?

Tommy: You're salivating.

Josh: Is that pastry?

Tommy: Well, it's, it's, it's almost like, so it looks like naughty, a churro, but it's a loop. So it's the doughnut shape. Just, yeah, have, have some.

Josh: Anyway, should I have that before I have a biscuit? Biscoff?

Tommy: Definitely. Oh my God. I haven't been eating naughty all week and I'm fucking salivating.

Josh: So should I just quickly, should I?

Tommy: Look, look, I'm going to stop you right there because I thought I had organised Fat Fridays.

Josh: Yeah, we, we have a friend of ours, Mark. Yeah.

Tommy: So Mark Schenk, who we met a couple of weeks ago, came in for a coffee. What a nice guy.

Josh: He has a company called Anecdote and he's got a podcast, Business Storytelling Anecdote.

Tommy: Anyway, he walks in and when I see someone walk into our studio with a bag, I immediately think, what have they got me?

Josh: Well, I think it's extremely presumptuous. Well, that was yesterday. When we had Alex in and she brought us balls, which I know you were very upset.

Tommy: Can I— It's Fat Friday. I held off from eating the balls yesterday. Could I have a ball? Is there— Where are the balls? Where are the balls? There was 20 of them.

Mason: I mean, I had 5.

Tommy: Where are the balls? Can you get me a ball?

Josh: No, we finished them.

Mason: And what do you mean? Where did the 8 lemon ones go?

Josh: Why is he pushing it on me? No, but he— 97 ate so many that it was like to the point where it was— he used to eat all the chocolate.

Tommy: So hang on, our show baker Alex brought in stuff for the three of us and I didn't even get one.

Josh: You're very rude.

Tommy: Yes. Oh my God.

Josh: But anyway, so when she came, when Alex came in with the box of goodies, I'm always like, ah, like I do when someone brings something, even if it looks like a gift, it could even have like wrapping or whatever. I'm never, ever going to presume that it's for me. I wait until they communicate something and say, hey, this is for you. And like, it could play for a very long— they could hand it to me and I would say, oh, what's in your box? Like, what's in here? Like, at that point, I still haven't registered that it's a gift. You, on the other hand, she had the box there and you're like, oh, what have you made? What food's in there?

Tommy: Mate, the show baker comes to the studio.

Josh: She wasn't the show baker at that point.

Tommy: No, I mean, she was the Cookie Monster at that point. She sent us send-all packages with cooking, with brownies in them. Yeah, I just lead with it because it's like, why is there on our podcast table something that holds food? Because it was a food container.

Josh: And so my thing is, don't take away the surprise. Yeah, just be like, oh, what is it? Like, it could have been anything. It could have been something crafty.

Tommy: And you know what? There was a surprise in there. And you know what? I didn't get one of them.

Josh: I know you fucked up. Anyway, Mark—

Tommy: Fuck, how's this back on me?

Josh: Uh, Mark, how many did you have, by the way?

Mason: Yeah, did you actually finish all?

Josh: They were very small.

Tommy: Yeah, how many did you have?

Josh: It was the equivalent of a, of maybe 2 lemon slices.

Tommy: That's not what we're asking. How many balls did you have?

Josh: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, maybe 12.

Tommy: Maybe. Oh my God.

Mason: Well, there were about like, what, 7 or 8 lemon ones when we left.

Tommy: To be fair, He's pretty sure he did say he's going to eat so many of them.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And yeah, well, today and tomorrow— sorry, yesterday and today, naughty. And then I'm going to dial it in because I don't know, I'm not keeping a tally of weight.

Tommy: But anyway, anyway, Mark Shank, sorry, buddy, getting off the thing. Anyway, Mark walks in. Josh doesn't assume, but he does.

Josh: The way that you interrupted me, it sounded like we didn't edit there. There was no edit.

Tommy: There's no edit. But Mark walked in and he just— he had— I immediately thought, oh, that looks like food. I thought, oh, maybe he's brought some food for our coffee. Because we're going to have a coffee catch-up. Mate, Mark, I opened this, my face lit up. Lit up. I'm going to do this for you.

Josh: You're going to have to watch the video at thedailytalkshow.com. We film every episode. Also, if you watch on YouTube, just subscribe because I see that we've got about 60% of the people who watch our videos don't subscribe. And also, like it, please. Thank you.

Tommy: Give us a like and a subscribe. So, on the front it says Little Cupcakes Melbourne. Here we go. Open them up.

Josh: Yeah, look at that. So literally, we'll put a photo on our Instagram too, but you should go watch the video.

Tommy: They're little chocolate cupcakes with a thick dollop of icing, but then it's got an edible The Daily Talk Show brand sticker on it.

Josh: How do they, how do they print that?

Tommy: I don't know, mate, but what is the ink printer like?

Josh: Oh, sorry, what's a—

Tommy: it's food dye. Food dye.

Mason: Yeah, food ink.

Tommy: A food dye printer. So anyway, let's start with this. You've outdone my Fat Fridays, and you've delivered the goods, buddy. Fucking, this is amazing.

Josh: '97, uh, what's, what's been happening?

Mason: Uh, well, not too much actually.

Josh: See, I thought I could maybe, well, throw the ball to him and then I could take some bites, but is that all you got?

Mason: Yeah, well, I mean, I can run through my LA fact now if you want.

Tommy: Save the best for last.

Mason: Okay, we can save that.

Josh: What else is happening?

Mason: We got our visas sorted.

Josh: Yeah, that's good.

Tommy: Success.

Josh: You went to the consulate. What was that experience like?

Tommy: If you caught up with a mate tonight, yeah, and they said, what have you been up to, bro? Like, what's been happening?

Mason: Yeah, well, no, I'd probably mention the visa thing. And then we've—

Josh: you've got caramel inside, did you know that?

Tommy: I just saw it.

Josh: Go on.

Mason: Well, no, we actually, we actually just got a message from Harry. Big Brother is coming back. The casting, the casting call has been put out, and he says to pass it on to Scooter Derek.

Josh: Ah, Scooter should apply.

Tommy: That'd be cool.

Josh: Could we help him in the campaign?

Tommy: That would be funny, don't you think?

Josh: Like, I'm being serious.

Tommy: I wonder if people who are fans of reality shows do the best.

Josh: Yeah, well, Tully was a fan. She's released an article.

Tommy: Oh my God, that's a big spoonful of that Biscoff. Way too much, dude.

Josh: It's like peanut butter.

Mason: Oh, it's definitely not like that.

Josh: Lean LA. Um, well, it's already gone. Just shocking everybody.

Tommy: You've been shocking since you were 12. It's actually—

Josh: to be honest, I think the biggest shock my buddy's had recently was when I started eating salads. Oh, that was so good. Just what about admin-wise? I feel like you've been looking after Instagram. I cracked it because, um, when I was away in, uh, Daylesford, we were gonna— how many times were we gonna post? It's like 4 times.

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah, 5 times. 4 times, 5 times.

Josh: You didn't get around to it, which is okay. Like, but we saw—

Mason: ideal.

Josh: It was not ideal. I wasn't that happy. But anyway, you fixed it. You've been smashing it on social. Can we write back to people now?

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: On comments?

Mason: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Josh: That's the next step, I think, because you've been doing great getting it all posted out. If you've noticed on Instagram, but I've tried to hold back on doing too much of the commenting. Can you do one? Just read out some of the comments and Tommy and I can read, you know, give us a response.

Tommy: Are we doing real-time admin where we say something and then he'll Yeah, right, that would be good.

Josh: So if you just go through the latest posts and see what people are saying, and then we will, uh, respond.

Tommy: I'm gonna have a short sub though.

Josh: Okay, it's a, um— oh, my brain's already like buzzing.

Tommy: Is it?

Josh: Well, because I haven't had lunch.

Tommy: Have you had breakfast?

Josh: No, dude. Have you?

Tommy: Yeah, I've had a couple of minutes.

Josh: I had 2 coffees.

Tommy: There's like 3 meals already.

Josh: Okay, so am I better than you then?

Tommy: I just think that it just shows your lack of thought to food, like lack of thought to— nah, I guess it's Fat Friday, do what you want. Sorry, bro. Yeah, we have a rule, we don't—

Josh: I'm just fasting.

Tommy: Young Mason gets into us. We call him Young Mason because he's— that's the annoying one of Mr. 97.

Josh: That was cute with, um, before you start ringing out. Yeah, Bodhi, can we talk about that for a sec?

Mason: Sure.

Josh: We had a few people writing to, uh, doing heart eyes Grace loved it, mate. What did Grace say?

Tommy: Mason's a thirst trap. Mr. 97, Jesus.

Josh: What did Grace say?

Mason: Rating the regrowth on Mr. 97.

Tommy: So I caught Mr. 97 on the couch with my son, just being an absolute cutie, like so cute.

Josh: Oh, that's just like— look at that, that's disgusting, dude. I'm so sorry. Oh, what the fuck? Don't watch the video. The reason that's happening— big I can't help it.

Tommy: Oh, sorry, no, I can't comment on pickery on a Friday.

Josh: Sorry. Because the other thing too is, I remember, I don't know if anyone else has done this, um, if you're listening and you, you, um, know what I'm talking about. Geeks are better kissers than the average person.

Tommy: What?

Josh: So, um, look it up, 97. I remember hearing this fact as a kid and I was very happy with it. So, geeks and what you're complaining about. Have you found anything?

Mason: 6 legit reasons geeky guys are better in bed. I mean, it's really what you're searching for, isn't it?

Josh: Okay. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. What are they saying? There's one that is related to—

Mason: It's totally down to role-playing.

Josh: Yeah, I'm a great actor. Go on.

Mason: He'll get you some of that well-read dirty talk.

Tommy: What is the—

Josh: Oh, the compressors on that.

Mason: What's the—

Josh: What's the website so we're just not plagiarizing? What are we talking about?

Mason: Goodmenproject.com.

Josh: Okay, goodmenproject.com.

Tommy: Yeah, what else we got?

Mason: He loves to learn, your body included.

Josh: I just— every—

Tommy: please, if you're listening or watching, just think of JJ after every question. Just think of him.

Mason: No, think of this one: video games have taught him finger dexterity.

Josh: Go on, what else? This is a bullshit article though. There's a legitimate one.

Tommy: This is great.

Josh: So it's all about geeks. Oh, there isn't a final one.

Tommy: It was at like 3, 4.

Mason: It wasn't that great.

Tommy: Did you say 6 things?

Mason: Geeks get things done.

Tommy: Yeah, sure.

Josh: What else?

Mason: Um, geeks know kinky people.

Tommy: Do they?

Josh: Do you? No. Um, I guess there is sort of that, um, uh, stereotype that they're sort of into cosplay. There's a bit of cosplay. Oh yeah, people going to Comic-Con and Fucking or something.

Tommy: I mean, but what I've always thought about kinky stuff, like what people into weird shit or just not status quo shit, is how do you learn that you're not into— that you're into that shit? Like, there has to be a point if you like being tied up or whatever, which is quite common.

Josh: I mean, you're talking to the guy who put a squeegee in his ass.

Tommy: I know, I know. I'm trying to get inside, bro.

Josh: I think people— you're trying to get inside, are you?

Tommy: I'm trying to get insight into how you work out that sniffing amyl as you orgasm is something you like.

Josh: I've never done it before, but that's a known thing, isn't it? That's how people do it.

Tommy: Yeah, but how do you do that first? So if Mr. 97, do you know even what I said then? Nope.

Josh: So amyl, what is that? So isn't it buy it from the sex shop?

Tommy: Yeah, you buy it from sex shops.

Josh: It's like, um, it's like you're getting high essentially.

Tommy: It's like alcohol, not alcohol, but it's like this super potent. Have you ever smelt like a chemical and it's like gone into your head and you're like, oh my God, what? I shouldn't have smelt that.

Mason: I mean, eucalyptus, the head lice spray, is the only thing.

Tommy: Yeah, so there's some really fucking—

Josh: Wait, what about the head— I've missed a bit there.

Mason: No, you know, you know the eucalyptus shampoo that you use for head lice?

Tommy: It's such a cute little innocent baby.

Josh: Yeah, what that— What's it—

Mason: If you sniff that, it's got a super strong smell that clears your nasal path, and it just— When you Inhale a lot of it.

Tommy: Yeah, so that times 50, and it just like— sniff it and then all of a sudden you don't— it doesn't really do anything, but then a second later you start getting lightheaded. Look it up, Amal. Anyway, you buy it from sex shops. It's just got— it's not sold as Amal.

Josh: It's sold to help you ejaculate quicker.

Tommy: Like, no, I think the reason I heard someone, someone that I know said that they sniffed it as they orgasmed and So you do what I could imagine. What I could imagine— this is getting a bit weird, kids in cars.

Josh: Um, what's, what's the kids in cars got to do?

Tommy: I don't know, if Derek's kids are listening, they're trying to work out what people in radio who aren't in radio just hear you say kids in cars.

Josh: Kids in cars.

Tommy: No, I think if you're a parent listening to this right now and your kids are in the cars, you would have not been the ejaculation line. The point— yeah, I know I should have said kids in cars at the start. It's like saying I'm about to do a spoiler.

Josh: I've done this, I've done the thing, and then what's the thing you're about to say?

Tommy: I think what it does— and look it up, Mr. Nice, bring the facts to the table.

Josh: Amol.

Tommy: A-M-O-L. Try that. Amol.

Mason: Amol. Amol.

Tommy: It's short for a chemical term, but I think the blood rush to the head, the lightness in the, in like the way it makes you feel, there'd be something combined with the ejaculation or the orgasm.

Josh: Would you remember the first time, Isaac, when you were young, the first time that you ejaculated?

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, for a man— I mean, if you're a woman, if you're a woman listening, there's a time where you go from not having sperm to having sperm. And so it is a weird moment where you realise nothing comes out and something comes out. It's all fucking bizarre.

Josh: Like, it's actually the first time, it's like a drug, isn't it?

Tommy: I can't really remember. Really?

Josh: I just remember it's just like my ears ringing and like almost going real lightheaded.

Mason: No, same things happen when you get a compliment. And so did you find out, uh, amyl nitrate?

Josh: Yep. And what does it do?

Mason: Uh, it's called erotic inhaling.

Tommy: Explain.

Mason: Hang on, it's just an article here. There's a photo of just a bloke with Josh's mo sniffing it.

Josh: That's so funny. Just, uh, what's the, the article? What site is it?

Mason: I've become, um, I mean, okay, so this is on Vice and there's also one on salon.com.

Tommy: Get into it, give us some facts around it. He's now been sent, like, you know when those dodgy sites just start sending fucking—

Mason: yeah, physical effects can include impaired Decreased— impaired or decreased coordination and muscle control, chest pain, increased libido, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea.

Josh: Yeah, nothing.

Mason: Also warm sensations.

Josh: That's what you want.

Mason: Temporary erectile dysfunction.

Tommy: So you are— I've had it a couple of times.

Josh: Nothing like coming to a bit of diarrhoea and chest pain.

Tommy: I was at a party.

Josh: Is that what it's saying?

Tommy: I was at a party once.

Mason: Yeah.

Josh: And what were you just doing there?

Mason: No, the monitor just— the battery ran out, but we're all good.

Tommy: That's all right, we can see it here. I was at a party once and we were on the dance floor, house party, one of the best, a cracking house party. I know you didn't go to house parties, but house parties that would just be heaving, just— there's just a dance floor in the living room. It's just something happens with stars aligned and everyone's come and just, oh my God, is that person, that person? And then we're just like, the house gets trashed. It wasn't my house, so I wasn't feeling—

Josh: What did you call those parties?

Tommy: It was a house party. Come to a house party. This house party was like not far from here, and I just remember there was this girl dancing on the dance floor, and she had this thing in her hand, and she was walking around. I was trying to work out what she's doing. She's just holding it to people's noses, and they're like sniffing it. And then it got to me, and I was like, okay, sniffed it.

Josh: It's like going to fucking Myer and people are trying to hand you those perfume sticks.

Tommy: And she puts out I know. Oh, all I remember, I mean, all I remember, you know, I was fine. No, no, it didn't knock me out. It just makes you, all those things feel a bit lightheaded. If you sniff heaps of it, you would. I woke up with my brain felt like a dried sponge, like I just felt so bad. Like, it's, there's nothing good about it for you.

Josh: How, I mean, the sniff you did didn't look that severe.

Mason: No, just like, yeah, it kicks in in 30 seconds. Yeah, it lasts for 2 to 3 minutes. It's pretty quick.

Tommy: Dude, it is so bizarre. It's such a dumb thing.

Josh: I never want to do it.

Mason: Nah.

Josh: So, um, going back to the, the geeks and kissing, I want to— You right? Yes, it's funny. You a bit phlegmy from all that biscotti? Um, the— I want you to know the answer of why geeks are good kissers.

Mason: Well, you'll appreciate this. They don't just learn how to do something, they master it.

Tommy: Okay, yeah, I can get that.

Josh: But why Geeks Good Kisses? You type in something else, you can't find it. It's definitely there. As a kid, that's what I sort of lived and breathed.

Tommy: As in, you— geeksaregoodkisses.com, Josh's domain.

Josh: Should I just tell you?

Mason: Yeah, tell me. It's, it's just lovers and sexier, so.

Josh: Okay, uh, type in saliva. Do you know how to spell that word? How do you spell it?

Mason: S-A-L-I-V-A.

Tommy: Just thinking about that word and you makes me feel sick.

Josh: So, geeks tend to have more saliva.

Tommy: But what determines a geek?

Josh: A good kisser, like the quality of a kiss normally is related to the level of saliva.

Tommy: I disagree.

Josh: The more saliva, the better.

Tommy: That's fucking disgusting. If you think about it, kissing is fucking disgusting.

Josh: You don't like kissing?

Tommy: I love kissing, but it's disgusting. No, but I'm saying if you think about it, exchanging saliva— like, when you think about yourself kissing a rando, like, and you think about if you just saw someone on the street, right, and you just go kissing them, like, if you're not going down on someone's worse. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying it's not— that's like They are all really fucking gross things when you think about them. The difference is when you're feeling it and you're attracted and it's lovely, it's— it becomes super nice.

Josh: And when you're in the moment of kissing, so you're just loving or you don't?

Tommy: Yeah, but what I'm saying is it's like saying my hand, look at the fucking hand. I had a moment once when I was looking at my hand, I was like, this is so—

Josh: I feel like Tommy's revealed that he doesn't like kissing. How weird. Intimacy issues.

Tommy: In general?

Josh: No, no, I don't like kissing.

Tommy: Food issues? Where's my fucking balls? Where's my balls?

Josh: Where are your balls? I don't know. Where's my fucking balls? I wouldn't kiss them though. Um, did you find anything on the saliva thing?

Mason: No, you've made that up.

Tommy: That's such a made-up— why, why do you need more saliva for kissing?

Josh: So, right, saliva kissing or something. I just— there is definitely an article about it.

Tommy: It's so silly. It seems so silly. But what you're trying to say is because we saw salivation from your face, saliva on your donut, you're a great kiss that.

Josh: It reminds me of the scene, if you have seen Not Another Teen Movie.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: The older lady kissing the girl and they almost like put some sort of glue. So, when they go apart. Does that really gross you out? You don't like spit?

Tommy: I don't like your spit. I don't like thinking about your saliva.

Josh: It doesn't bother me. Maybe that's my kink or something.

Tommy: Maybe it is.

Josh: Maybe I like saliva. You do?

Tommy: Is that a thing? Is that a thing?

Josh: Yeah, like I'm not opposed to it. I'm never like, yucky. Are you a little bit like that? If there's a kiss and it was salivary, would you be like, ugh?

Tommy: Not with my wife, but I mean, just from the— I think watching, if I was watching you and Bree kiss and I was seeing all that, I'd just be like, oh, that's fucked.

Josh: That's right.

Tommy: You know what I mean?

Josh: But if I was in it, that's very rude.

Tommy: If I was in it and I had— but if I was in this position with my wife, okay.

Mason: You've made it up, mate.

Josh: Anyway, I watched a Lisa Ling documentary, uh, This Is Life. Hashtag This Is Life.

Tommy: Yep.

Josh: Latest one is on pornography. Oh yeah, and, uh, yeah, and they had a, um, 10 months clean, boys.

Tommy: What? 10 months clean?

Josh: Is that true?

Tommy: I haven't watched porn this year. I told you that. Just stop saying it because I You could have thought I said—

Josh: I don't watch porn. NoFap website. So they had the guy who started NoFap, a movement. Oh yeah, do you know why it's called—

Tommy: No, like, that's masturbation though. I haven't— Like, it's— There's a difference between masturbation, like, not watching porn and masturbating. I saw a guy at the gym and he's like— He told me, I haven't had sex in 400 days.

Josh: Why was he telling you that, do you think?

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: How did it come up?

Mason: He—

Tommy: no, the surprising thing was it just sort of was like, just happened. He said it.

Josh: He said, where were you?

Tommy: We're just training. And I started training with him and the girl that he was with.

Josh: And then he said, hey man, I haven't had any sex in the last 400 and something days.

Tommy: Yeah, but then he ended up telling me that he had slept with somebody and he'd broken the— no, that's right, he said, I just broke the 400-day thing or something. It was going on a— he was like doing celibacy, you know, like doing the the voluntary celibate.

Josh: Like the, this, the, uh, no porn and no alcohol connected. Were you just getting completely drunk and watching porn?

Tommy: It sounds like that. And was it exercising? It sounds like that, doesn't it? Yeah, I started exercising more than ever.

Mason: Mate, that was your 2-day rule, meditating to get through the no porn.

Josh: Yeah, just fucking— no, no, might as well if you're fucking just gonna close my eyes. What else What else am I gonna do?

Tommy: I just connected it. No, I did, to the alcohol thing. I was like, no alcohol. And then I was thinking, well, I haven't watched porn in a while, so I'll go no porn too. And it was within, you know, January. And I was like, I just was like, if I do that and that, and I feel better for it.

Josh: But anyway, um, I mean, yeah, I was watching the documentary. It was just funny. They were talking about, um, they just had a bunch of guys talking about addictions of porn.

Tommy: It's a full-on thing. It is.

Josh: But it sounds— not to underplay whatever they're experiencing, but there is something a little bit pathetic about these guys just sort of like, they're real sort of upset and they look sad.

Tommy: It's like, yeah, you know, addiction's addiction, don't you agree?

Josh: If anything, I know, but that's like me like getting really fucking riled up about my food addiction.

Tommy: I'm sure you have in your life.

Josh: Maybe. But I know there just seems something funny about a guy being like, I know. I, uh, I'm, you know, masturbate at least, or, you know, watch porn at least, uh, 5 times a day.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, I know what you're doing.

Josh: And like, Bree's like, are we meant to feel sorry for them? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tommy: It's a self-inflicted— like, the eating one's an interesting one because you have to eat as a human to survive. The porn, you don't need it to survive. But some, like, addiction can be a weakness is definitely not the word to connect it to, but there is a, a level of uncontrollability that they find in themselves to something. So because porn, the thing, is a, is a, it gives you pleasure, right? And so I remember years ago as a kid, um, here we go, being— I remember like it was, it's a form of escapism, masturbating.

Josh: It's like a meditation. If you don't meditate Do you think?

Tommy: No, relaxation, nothing like that. Nothing like it.

Josh: Masturbation and relaxation, definitely.

Tommy: No, you can't.

Josh: Dominic Doctor would have been—

Tommy: hang on, hang on, hang on. There is a difference because one sends you super high, the other one is about disconnecting from your, um, from— if you're thinking about stuff though, stimulus, you meant just sit back. Meditation is about—

Josh: no, I'm talking about wellness.

Tommy: Sorry, masturbation is about vicious back and forth and then a climax in some I thought you were saying there was a big distinction between—

Josh: but do you think there's a big distinction between, uh, masturbating without porn and masturbating with porn?

Tommy: There's a big difference. I mean, I think if you just have been using porn, it becomes harder to visualize, harder to think about it.

Josh: Like, I reckon that the funny thing is all of these things are so personal, right? Like, so for some people they can eat a doughnut and they don't need to then have 6 cupcakes.

Tommy: And then for some people they can have 1 ball and save a ball for their mates.

Josh: Exactly. But we're all different. So the thing is that for some people it's like, oh, if you watch porn or something, that then affects you in your intimate relationships.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But other people that might not.

Tommy: Exactly. But it's like saying drinking is bad for absolutely everybody. There are some people who can just have one, they don't really think about it, stop drinking for 3 weeks and have another glass of wine or 2 at dinner. Don't drink for 3 months.

Josh: Like, but I definitely have to—

Tommy: like, that's an interesting existence because that's not my existence, because I think about it a lot. Like, the, the thing about drinking is I have a good night, or it's like— and then I think about that, and you can get in a pattern of going, I want to get pissed again.

Josh: Well, you think about alcohol— for people who have only just started listening to us, I didn't drink alcohol for the first like 29 years of my life, really, or 28 years.

Tommy: And solid. When was it? You had a— you had like maybe 2 drinks in that time?

Josh: Yeah, I'd have— I would have like, yeah, probably that, like at a wedding or whatever. Someone's like, oh, you should try this, or whatever. Oh, it's like a nice, like a fucking, um, you know, coconut thing. What's that called? Piña colada. Oh yeah, like have a piña colada. I'm like, oh, okay. They got me across the line because I like coconut. Yeah.

Tommy: And so sweet.

Josh: Yeah. And so I had that or those types of things, but I have a bit of red wine now. However, I do see the slightly destructive nature in my mind, whereas I'm like, I wonder if I just kept going. I wonder if I like had a few more. I wonder like— because I have never— I've only ever had a bottle. The most I've ever had is sort of like Bree and I've shared a bottle, but she's only really had half a glass and I've had the rest. But there is that sense in your mind where it's like, oh, I wonder what— like you see RBT and you see people, you know, random breath test. It's a show on Australian TV.

Mason: I love that TV. Yeah, it's so good.

Josh: It's just bogans just getting caught drinking. Uh, but I was thinking, okay, what, like, are they just— are those people who are getting stopped who are just over, are they had— are they where I was, I've been at? And what would it take? Like, is, is there any reason to go further?

Tommy: Yeah, because he— it feels good.

Josh: So does it feel good to go from that tipsy to black out drunk?

Tommy: Uh, nah, there's a point where you're just like not enjoying it and you just—

Josh: yeah, yeah, sure.

Tommy: Like, and so, but then you go, why is— where's the case for even doing that? You don't. It's a, it's a caught up, it's a momentum thing. You start having one beer, have another, have another, have another, then you stand up and then you're like, holy fuck, I'm so pissed. And sometimes you can turn—

Josh: I've got get angry or something.

Tommy: I've got blackout drunk off little, like, yeah, maybe 10 beers before, but then I've drank 10 beers and felt sober before. And so sometimes you don't know, sometimes it's a— you haven't eaten enough or you're tired or something happens, but there's nothing— I didn't think, like, yeah, just you punishing 4 more bottles of wine.

Josh: Oh, not 4, just another bottle. I wonder what I would do.

Tommy: Yeah, you just get— you end up just getting sleepy.

Josh: You're just like, well, that's the whole thing. Every single time I've just gone to sleep. Yeah, I just fall asleep on the couch. Do you think, um, it is fun though, on a very odd occasion, doing it maybe once a week on a Friday? Once a week?

Tommy: I think it's excessive.

Josh: Once a week?

Tommy: I thought you were going to say once a 6 months, once every 6 months.

Josh: Once a week, just wind down on a Friday night. I know that you don't want that to be your standard. You don't want that to be the way that you wind down because I've noticed there is a difference.

Tommy: I don't think it is winding down, to be honest. I don't feel like it is because I've been there winding down Friday, Saturdays, sometimes Thursday, a little bit naughty Friday and then into Saturday.

Josh: Here's the difference. All right, this is what's interesting. Say with porn, everyone will say, okay, the thing with porn is like, uh, it's not the real sexual experience, like it's not the proper intimate experience, you know, it's, uh, maybe demeaning or aggressive or what, all those types of things. However, we're using that one word to describe everything. And so it's the same with alcohol, for instance. The difference between being at home and having wine and getting drunk off that versus being at, um, uh, Blitz nightclub—

Tommy: where's that?

Josh: Narrie Warren. I don't know if it's still around. Or Barrack. Okay, but you like UDLs or something? I'm guessing that's what they did. The difference between being out in a socialist setting and trying to pick up and having UDLs versus being with your partner with red wine and getting drunk. Very different, don't you think? Or no?

Tommy: Uh, yes, there is a difference. The distinguish— the distinguishing fact has to be—

Josh: what fact?

Tommy: The distinguishing fact has to be what is your scenario. Is it— as this is the problem when people serve up, uh, you know, what do you call it, like a descriptive sort of— well, no, you're serving up like examples, like what if this versus that. What you're talking about is the person that can on a Friday night just have one or two drinks and that is it. But this— we're so nuanced. Humans are so complex. And there is the person that can do that. Then there's a person that has had a bit of a problem with it their whole life they haven't addressed, and they have one or two, and they've reduced their severe drinking to one or two on the week.

Josh: But it's also to do with, I guess, a family. And if you've had an alcoholic parent or family member, that would change.

Tommy: Yeah, there's a lot of considerations.

Josh: Have you ever been drunk, 97?

Mason: No, never.

Josh: Do you think?

Mason: No, no, no, no, no.

Josh: I, I have a deal. Was that the closest?

Mason: No, I've, I haven't had a full— oh, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have had a full drink of alcohol before.

Josh: I mean, you had a shot, didn't you?

Mason: Yeah, that's the, the biggest thing I've ever—

Tommy: I, I had a dream last night that I broke my pelvis, my 10-month alcohol-free, and I felt so bad. No, as in like, I just felt so guilty.

Josh: That's coming from I don't know, there was something about those.

Tommy: Yeah, I just had that— I felt bad. It felt so fucking bad. It was like a nightmare. But it's—

Josh: I get it, everyone's different. On the porn thing, '97, the young people, they were talking about like education within schools. Did you have education specifically around porn?

Mason: No, it was— nah, it's, it's still— I mean, you guys probably had it as well, but it's like contraceptive sex and all that sort of stuff. Nothing nothing on porn. It's sort of just like a topic that they don't touch at all.

Tommy: I do, because it's so complex. Yeah, I don't think you should never watch porn. I think it's what happens with your relationship to porn. That's the point, that's the point, right?

Mason: I think there's— I mean, yeah, it's, it's sort of— I think it's probably still a maturity thing as well. Like, people aren't going to take any of that seriously anyway, even if you're, even if you're doing it in year 12, year 11, year 10.

Tommy: To be honest, there's a— you just become curious about it. All right, what's this stage you're talking about? I want to watch it. That would have been me.

Josh: But that's what you want, isn't it? Because young people need to be curious.

Tommy: Curiosity is a great trait, but what I'm saying is—

Josh: Are you going full-blown churchy? It sounds like you're like, absolutely no porn, no alcohol.

Tommy: No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is the devil's in porn. If a school starts— the reason I could imagine schools aren't putting their fingers in that pie is that once you open that door—

Josh: too many metaphors, opening the door, fingers in the pie.

Tommy: You talk to something about— you talk to a kid about something that you're trying to educate them on.

Josh: I think that's it.

Tommy: But my point is they will want to go and see it. And I'm not— and I'm saying I, I definitely would have if a teacher said, look, there's this thing called porn, mate. What's that fucking— yeah, show me straight away.

Josh: But the thing is, then they can at least control the narrative. So they're like, hey, the things to know with porn is when 5 men ejaculate on this woman that's not reality. That's not reality. Yeah. And it's, you know, there's— they talked in the documentary about, uh, consent, and within porn you don't really see the consent. You don't see the conversation of like the intimate moment of deciding that you guys are going to have sex.

Tommy: Yeah, of course not. And so I'm not saying never to watch it I'm just saying, here's my biggest thought within it. Our surroundings, our environment, our thinking, our stimulus towards our thinking determines our environment, right?

Josh: So what is that?

Tommy: Uh, so once again, um, if, if, if you hang around bad people, sure, and you do— I say if you do negative things it's, it's playing over in your head, right? There is like your inner environment. How do I explain this?

Josh: So the thing—

Tommy: the, the— you— so your mind is a reflection of your experience, right? Your experience, it could be whatever you do, the people you hang around, the things you've gone through, your behavior, all those things. And for me, porn is one of those things that you can take off the table, you could say it has no effect on you. But I think if you take it off the table, you can see how it has affected you because you can think it doesn't affect you when you watch it. Or like, and so you start to then— and I'm saying this is for me, right? I'm not talking about for you because it might not be. You just love porn, whatever it be. Whatever.

Josh: Somehow become the porn guy. To be clear, I'm just having a conversation.

Tommy: And so it can affect your thinking.

Josh: It's just Mr. 97 is the porn guy.

Tommy: Yeah, if we—

Josh: if anyone is the 19-year-old guy.

Tommy: So I think about stripping, right?

Josh: Are you happy being the porn guy?

Mason: No, not really.

Josh: Why not? What do you associate— why are you embarrassed about porn?

Mason: No, I don't think it's embarrassment. I just don't think it reflects the best of me. Like, you don't— I don't feel the greatest in that moment. You know what I mean? Like, uh, you're just—

Josh: that's sad, isn't it? Yeah, there's something sad about that.

Mason: You know, no, no, no.

Tommy: Okay, here's another— here's an idea.

Josh: Are you—

Tommy: are you proud?

Josh: No.

Tommy: That you watch porn?

Mason: No.

Tommy: So then the thing—

Josh: proud that you catch the bus?

Mason: Okay, um, I mean, it's just like—

Tommy: okay, so then you're true, like, yeah. Okay, okay, no, then put the— put it like this. Is Do you see porn, your viewing of porn, a reflection of you? Like, do you want that to be a part? Like, no, the traits—

Josh: what sort of show are you watching?

Tommy: But the bus, the bus could be— no, I just got my shit together, I fucking catch the bus, I gotta go to work. And my point being, the— because I think there is— so it's taboo, right, porn? This conversation could be uncomfortable for a bunch of people, kids in cars, for the fact that you might keep your porn viewing secret from your partner, I don't think is a positive thing, just in what you put out to the universe.

Josh: So if you don't— let's say 97 doesn't have a partner, so through his context, you as a person, what you— what your core values are, is it—

Tommy: is it in alignment with your values? And I think that this is such a small thing that you could write off, but if if our actions dictate our values, our true values. So you are as good as your actions and it's not in alignment with what you think your values are. So, and I'm not saying I'm fucking in alignment with my values because I still, I'm still flawed. But I think it is.

Josh: What are yours? Go through. What are your values?

Tommy: Oh, on time. Yeah, you can be on time.

Josh: You can, you can be on time.

Tommy: No, I think what I value in life is people around me that I trust. I value friendship and connection with people. So with this, like what we do, my relationship with my wife, become— as I've living in alignment with my values, or just feeling okay about how I'm existing, is, is something that I'm— and so there's before happy, um, so there's fun.

Josh: So the thing is that what you're feeling is not the porn, but you're feeling a guilt towards the porn.

Tommy: Then what? So what is the guilt a sign of though?

Josh: The guilt is a sign of programming based on how you're brought up. Why don't you think that?

Tommy: But isn't the guilt associated potentially with the out of alignment with my values and who I think I want to be?

Josh: Not my programming.

Tommy: My programming has been watching porn since I'm fucking 11. I've watched enough porn. I've probably watched a lot more porn than Mr. 97. It makes me sound like I've got a porn problem.

Josh: Or you did anyway.

Tommy: Not at all. I don't think I did at all.

Josh: I don't think you're saying this. I mean, I guess.

Tommy: Do you get it?

Josh: I don't know. So I understand, but I'm just, I'm just trying to dig deeper. So that third thought. So the first thought is, no, that's my values.

Tommy: No, no, no. So this is a third thought for me. This is a didn't give a fuck. I just watch porn because I like— that's a piece of work for me. And so I've worked out I would never have articulated it like this. A year ago at all.

Josh: And so the, um, I guess the question is, are you too hard on yourself?

Tommy: Um, no, no, no, not, not for this. I don't see the— I don't need to watch porn ever again. I don't— yeah, I don't know what value it will bring me.

Josh: So you've made a— I guess, like, well, how do you see it? '97, when you hear Tommy talk about it, what do you, what do you, what do you take out of it?

Tommy: He's just cleared his browser history.

Mason: Yeah, man, I've been in incognito.

Josh: Amen.

Mason: Um, no, I, I probably look at— look at it in a similar— I probably look at it in a similar way that Tommy does. I like— it's, it's a, it's a thing that happens, but I don't know how much— I mean, yeah, I don't know how much value it brings. Like, you feel, you feel guilty afterwards and just— yeah, okay, I don't know.

Tommy: Okay, so could there be a connection? Could there be a connection to how we look at women in everyday life— could that, the way we look at women, be altered by us watching porn?

Josh: Yes.

Tommy: And so my pattern growing up, like, think about it, you grow up checking out chicks, right? It was a thing. I just— but I had a moment where I once realised how much I would cheque out chicks because I'd been checking out chicks since fucking Grade 4. Yeah, maybe earlier. And so then it's just— that's a patterning, right? And so you got to go, uh, that is something that I don't need. Like, you got to grow out of that. And there is definitely patterns from being single and your pursuit of, you know, life and, and what you want in life, to being then in a relationship. Like, there's a whole lot of unlearning I've done, I think.

Josh: So what about like, um say chocolate, using chocolate as an example. You have chocolate that is 30% actual cocoa or whatever, it's got a bunch of other stuff in it, it's got a lot of sweet stuff.

Tommy: It's naughty.

Josh: And then you have 90% chocolate, really high quality stuff. Imagine porn is like chocolate.

Tommy: Which one?

Josh: You've got the Marvelous Creations, which is the Five Guys scenario that I put out, and then you have the 90% chocolate, which is maybe something more sort of pure in its sense.

Tommy: Like what? Are you trying to make a reference to a different type of porn?

Josh: Yes. Like a couple consensually having intercourse, having a great time and posting it online.

Tommy: It's just the porn that you'd watch on Foxtel if your mate's parents had access to a porn station.

Josh: No, I think that was more—

Tommy: There was no penetration. It was like a scene out of a movie. Kind of.

Josh: It was a scene out of a movie, so I think that's sort of still in the Marvelous Creation. No, that would be a low quality, don't you think? Because it's all like lit well and all that sort of thing. There's, um, makelovenotporn.com, which, uh, the creators were on, um, or, you know, people who use the service was on Lisa Ling's doco. And it's just these, this average looking couple, like, um, extremely average. But they, um, film themselves having sex and then distribute it.

Mason: Yes.

Tommy: And so it's about— that's, that's—

Josh: is 90s— are you just Googling this? You, um, oh, you have to sign up for it.

Tommy: Yeah. Can you give him a login?

Josh: Yeah, but so I mean, it's just, it's an interesting— it's all very interesting.

Tommy: Where's this metaphor going? Where's this?

Josh: So that my point is that it's just like, can we look at all of these products or all of the thing within the category and say all bad. What about, what about someone who has intimacy issues and this is their way of pleasuring themselves?

Tommy: Yeah, of course. And this is, this is why I said at the start, for me, my experience. And that's why you might be able to, you might be able to do it. That's the reason I asked Mr. Nice7 about what, how do you feel about you doing that? Because there's a good gauge of what he really feels about guilt.

Josh: No, but is that guilt associated with, uh, uh, you know, being like locking your, your door or whatever? In fact, like, mum's fucking left home and you hear the key, car keys, and as soon as the fucking car keys is almost like a Pavlovian effect.

Tommy: That's patterning, right? Yeah.

Josh: Like once mum gets to Endeavour Hills shops, she has 2 kilometres to get home. I can wank 5 times, I'm on the clock. And it's like, oh fuck no. Like, and then you have the moment of like, oh, maybe, maybe, you know, maybe she's fucking— she's gonna come back early. It's like, I need to just get it. She's forgotten the bag. Yeah, I mean, uh, reusable bags is the worst thing to to young kids, young, young kids watching porn.

Tommy: So no, I just, I think I, I know what you're kind of, you're getting at, right? Because there is a whole— there would be a bunch of people that say, you know, like, explore, you know, you're not open to allowing those feelings and sort of like going with that, you know. You can imagine there's, there's advocates of this stuff, like intimacy with your partner, watch porn. It's like The reality is this kind of shit doesn't work for everybody. And so that's for me. I'm not telling you not to watch porn. Yeah, watch porn and make your own decisions.

Josh: I can see the, I can see the value in both sides.

Tommy: And I don't think I thought before I did it that I needed to do this thing for some big reason, right? Like it wasn't like a crucible moment. It was like I actually hadn't done it for a while. And so maybe I'll just keep going.

Josh: And so what about Brent? What about, uh, Brent? Dr. Brent, uh, from Bond Street Dental.

Tommy: Do you think he'd like to be connected to this conversation?

Josh: Uh, he doesn't— he hasn't had chocolate in 23 years.

Tommy: Oh, that's phenomenal.

Josh: And when I say chocolate, I mean— I actually mean chocolate.

Mason: You mean 30 or 90, Josh?

Josh: No, he actually doesn't eat any chocolate. He hasn't.

Tommy: Yeah, that is phenomenal. Like, because I think you always, you always go, you think it must be so bad that you've gone off it for that long.

Josh: Like, yeah, like, what, like, there's got to be a point where everyone's sitting down being like, Brent, we need to sort out your chocolate habit. But for him, he was just like, oh yeah, one day I was like, oh, I'm gonna do it for a year, and it's like, I'm not doing it again. And then it becomes like an identity thing. It's like, oh yeah, I don't—

Tommy: no, I see how chocolate guy.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I could, I could do more time off alcohol, like, because you do start really identifying with it.

Josh: It's like a podcast. You do one, you do two, you do three, and then before you know it, you've done 475.

Tommy: Some things are more positive than others, right? Like the podcast thing for us to do.

Josh: Well, if you were watching porn, you wouldn't have time to do this as well. So it's like, yeah, yeah, that was a joke.

Tommy: That is probably a reality for some, like, full-on porn addicts. They've got all these dreams and goals, but they just love watching porn.

Josh: Can you give us— you know, you were talking yesterday, 97, about porn stats and what people are, um— that was off air. I'm just curious as to—

Tommy: so just some lunchtime banter.

Josh: Yeah, what were you saying?

Mason: So, so there's Pornhub have a section of their website.

Josh: What's Pornhub?

Mason: It's a porn site. They have a statistics part of their website called Pornhub Insights where they, uh, do a bunch of stats on their searches and everything.

Tommy: Just have that browser open as well, just in case someone walks in. Oh no, I was just looking at stats.

Josh: Is it on porn? Did you have to go to pornhub.com to get to it?

Mason: pornhub.com/insights.

Tommy: Mate, you're using our work internet to look up—

Mason: Absolutely. Lightning Broadband are going to be stoked.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And you, um, another company not wanting to be a part of this conversation.

Josh: I'm sure the employment contract had something about porn.

Mason: No, I looked over it, mate.

Tommy: It's all good.

Josh: He deleted it. He's safe. Yeah, I deleted the line. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, go. Some stats, some pornhub.com/stats, is that what you said?

Mason: Yeah, I mean, insights, they've got strange ones like Avengers and Avengers characters.

Josh: This is just what people are searching, what people are searching, is that what it is?

Mason: Yeah, yeah. But I mean, the, the interesting stuff is around like when you look at like bandwidth and, and cities. So they've correlated the highest, uh, the cities with the most traffic.

Josh: I mean, the reason Tommy doesn't look at porn is because he doesn't have NBN.

Tommy: Yeah, I actually don't. Actually, don't. Getting installed tomorrow.

Mason: Too much data. Just—

Josh: yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, anyway, so I can just imagine you just— the reason you had to give up was because you were using your VR headset. Like, that's a next level of brazen, being like, the uncomfortable feeling of being in a VR headset while, what, like It's just a nightmare or something on that.

Mason: There should be.

Tommy: Mum walks in.

Josh: Yeah, you don't know.

Tommy: They're just—

Josh: they could be looking right at him. Anyway, go on.

Mason: Yeah, so I mean, so just going back to the cities, the US is— uh, sorry, New York City is the highest, uh, the city with the most traffic. Um, London is next, Paris, LA, Chicago, Osaka in Japan, and then it's Sydney and then Melbourne.

Tommy: Wow.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: So that's— we're in top 10.

Mason: Yeah. Yeah. Where?

Tommy: Australia.

Josh: Sydney was because we were there the other week. Definitely have a—

Mason: yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, no, but free Wi-Fi.

Josh: Yeah, thanks to that.

Mason: High-speed Wi-Fi.

Josh: It was— I believe Ash Williams is playing a part in those numbers. Yeah, go on.

Mason: Um, no, but there's— they also do, uh awesome stats around like if there's a sporting event on, they'll show you the drop in the amount of people viewing and accessing the website. So when the NBA 2019 NBA Finals were on, uh, there was a 47% drop in porn in Toronto, in porn, in porn viewership.

Josh: Wow.

Tommy: All Dylan Toroval.

Mason: What's the, uh, the funny thing is for, uh, Golden State Warriors San Fran only dropped 18%.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, it wasn't local team, uh, the— or like, it wasn't— it was in Toronto, the game, wasn't it?

Mason: Yeah. Well, and the, the other great ones are, um, when Facebook and Instagram go out.

Tommy: Oh yeah, spikes.

Mason: Yeah, you get a, you get a 19% increase.

Josh: And so what are people searching? What are the top keywords, um, categories where you have—

Tommy: it's all about—

Josh: it's—

Tommy: I could— can I guess a few keywords?

Mason: Sure.

Tommy: Stepmum. Um, no, sorry, stepmom, stepsister.

Josh: Are you revealing something about yourself?

Tommy: Stepmum, stepsister, MILF, and, um, and now that's my third.

Josh: Can we get this as a snippet?

Tommy: Definitely not.

Mason: Okay, so these are, these are the searches that defined 2018.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Oh, teen.

Mason: 2018.

Tommy: Yeah, but teen's in there too. That's my fourth.

Mason: Okay, uh, number 1, Stormy Daniels.

Tommy: Oh yeah, that's Trump, Trump's, um, alleged—

Mason: Yep. Number 2, Fortnite.

Josh: What are these kids?

Mason: Number 3, 4K.

Tommy: Just getting that high res.

Mason: Yeah, which, good on them. Number 4, romantic.

Josh: Good on them. I love that you just remove yourself from the romantic—

Mason: Mate, I don't have fast enough internet.

Tommy: Romantic.

Mason: Romantic.

Tommy: You know what that is? That's just a bunch of sickos just like, you know, I need to bring some romance back. They're thinking I'm being disgusting.

Josh: Or do you think it's like, it's when you bring it to your partner, like, let's, let's watch something romantic. I mean, that's the thing when people decide with their partner, like, let's watch, uh, let's watch some porn together.

Tommy: That's an interesting conversation.

Josh: I mean, I wonder if you use the same keywords.

Tommy: You start typing one letter, it shows up.

Josh: Why don't we just type in, um, romantic instead?

Mason: Yeah, these are, these are the ones, um, that you were going for, Tommy.

Josh: Uh, no, we just want the top.

Mason: So I don't know, but those were the searches that defined— these are the most searched for terms.

Josh: Okay, thank you.

Mason: So lesbian is number 1, hentai, then hentai.

Tommy: What's that, like some kind of—

Josh: is it Japanese? Is it Japanese porn maybe?

Tommy: Hentai. This kid's fucking search results.

Josh: Hentai.

Mason: It's anime.

Josh: Anime. Okay.

Mason: Yeah, Japanese.

Tommy: That's that Japanese audience.

Josh: Yeah.

Mason: Uh, the third one is MILF. The fourth is stepmom. The fifth is Japanese. The sixth is mum. Seventh is teen.

Josh: What are people doing? No, in all seriousness, what do we think it is?

Tommy: It's 100%.

Josh: Why are we talking? Why are we talking about this?

Tommy: Why are we talking about it?

Josh: Why aren't we talking about the fact that—

Tommy: No, I've seen articles on this shit. There is—

Josh: Have you ever typed in mum being on you? Never.

Tommy: Promise to God.

Josh: The idea of someone saying daddy, if Bree ever said daddy to me, dude, this is why it's like, it's so, it's so deep.

Mason: You'd turn off the audiobook and you'd be done.

Josh: It's a funny reference to I've had sex during audiobooks. Thank you, Seth. The dip is a classic. Classic Seth. Yeah.

Mason: Is there any other, um, uh, the 7th one is teen, 8th is Asian, 9th is massage, 10th is Korean.

Tommy: Mate, I got all of mine in my top— in the top 10.

Josh: All your choices? All, yeah, all the ones. Yeah, it's interesting. Interesting Friday one.

Mason: I think you'll appreciate some of these. So, every minute on Pornhub 207,000 videos viewed, 63,000 visitors, 7,708 gigabytes of data transferred.

Josh: How much?

Mason: 7,708 gigabytes of data transferred and 12 videos uploaded every minute.

Josh: Yeah. What are we going to call the title of the app?

Tommy: Where's my balls?

Mason: 4,403 petabytes of data transferred in a year.

Josh: Too long as a title.

Tommy: Wow.

Mason: That's crazy, isn't it?

Tommy: Yeah, that's crazy. Um, can you finish off with your LA fact?

Mason: Okay, yeah, give me a second.

Josh: I also want to know the title of today's episode just so we can't bury the lead. I think we almost need to just—

Tommy: Porn Addiction Is Real.

Mason: I think Porn's a great title.

Tommy: Porn.

Josh: Do you reckon it's gonna fuck us with filters? No, fuck no.

Tommy: There's a podcast that's very popular called My Dad Wrote a Porno. Yeah, yeah, they're actually— oh, interesting fact I hadn't told you guys. On the Qantas flight home.

Josh: They had podcasts?

Tommy: Yeah, they had a video show. So it was through, you know, on the— is like, um, TV shows, and it goes HBO. You click on HBO and it was in there. So they'd sold a live series of live shows. I know, as a net— as like a net— you know, it's like an HBO special.

Josh: I think Wushka did a deal with Virgin or whatever. They got on all— every podcast went on there, um, on the Virgin Entertainment.

Tommy: So yeah, this is beyond that. This is the video version, which I thought was fucking sick. That's, that's cool because there was also the podcast one, a bunch of Mamma Mia and Podcast One podcasts.

Josh: Uh, LA fact, is it—

Mason: can I bring it back to porn?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, you can. So every day Mr. 97 brings an LA fact to the table because we're heading to LA on the 30th, 30th October 30th, and we're doing 21 shows from Los Angeles.

Josh: Los Angeles, LA.

Tommy: Hit your fact, Mr. 97.

Mason: Hit my fact. Uh, all right, actually, that's not a great fact.

Josh: Another fact that I heard in the, um, the documentary: FAP stands for— no, it doesn't stand for anything. FAP is, um, like the word for masturbation, and the reason that it's where the word comes from. Do you know? Yeah, it's the sound.

Tommy: The sound. Onomatopoeia.

Mason: Onomatopoeia.

Tommy: Onomatopoeia.

Josh: What's this?

Tommy: Crash.

Josh: Or it's the sound.

Mason: Yeah, it's the sound. Uh, anyway, the average, the average time spent on Pornhub in LA is 10 minutes and 48 seconds.

Josh: 10 minutes 48.

Mason: The average time spent on Pornhub in LA, the watch time, is 10 minutes and 48 seconds.

Tommy: Hmm, fair enough.

Mason: LA also houses the largest boulder that's ever been transported, weighing in at 340 tons.

Josh: Boulder? Yeah, like a big rock.

Mason: Yeah.

Tommy: Where is it now?

Mason: In LA?

Tommy: Yeah, but where?

Josh: Could we do a show from there?

Tommy: The big boulder?

Josh: I've got to drink 2.5 litres of water, guys.

Tommy: Hurry up, mate.

Josh: Uh, it's a daily talk show. If you've got anything that you want to add to this conversation hi@thedailytalkshow.com. Please send us an email. If you are completely disgusted by this episode, let us know as well. I think we've done it in a tasteful way. We've been open.

Mason: Yeah, we've done a good job.

Josh: It hasn't been smutty.

Tommy: No, not at all. Why are you looking at me?

Josh: Well, I mean, you're the gauge. You're the— you're our— apparently you've become our filter, which is quite the change. Anyway, it's The Daily Talk Show. Leave us a review too. You can also screen grab the show, take a photo, do an Insta story. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: Thank you, Mark Shank, by the way.

Josh: I thank you. Yes, that's—

Mason: oh, I need to have one.

Tommy: Yeah, I know, we ate them all, mate.

Josh: That's a cupcake. That Mark's the cupcake guy. All right, catch you. Bye.

Tommy: See you guys.