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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 423. What's happening guys what's going on? We've decided to call an early episode today we were about to have a meeting with Marina from cameo. Hi, Marina.

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Hey guys, what's up?

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slightly off camera. So you can't see me right here if you are watching, but we've it's almost an ambush. It's your first podcast. We're actually just going to catch up and we've roped you into this, but I will say just a little intro for you, Marina. You're the head of cameo. And in Australia, how do you explain cameo?

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Yeah, so nice to be here. Thanks for groping me in and ambushing me. You all game. So cameo, we describe it as the digital autograph. So we started about two years ago startup in Chicago and now it's an app where you can request video shout outs from celebrities athletes influencers and it's it's pretty much blown up.

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It's it's amazing because it has infiltrated pop culture and cool people of the internet like some of the My favourite comedians Christian delay air and all these guys talking about it over in the states and then didn't really know the thing here in Australia. Ron john came on the podcast and I've 4402 and I asked Mr. 97 to pull up a transcription. Oh, yeah. What he said about you, and what are these? So I get this message from the head of I just say this is Ryan speaking. speaking. Yes. So I get this message from the head of cameo Australia Marina, saying that they're opening an Australian office because their Chicago startup, but I think she's a bit delusional, because she messaged me and said, Brian, I think you'd be great talent for cameo. Which a bit delusional. As an American I think, I think Americans without sounding rude can come across. Rude sometimes. For instance, we so blonde, yeah. Gary Vee, like, you know, he was we saw him yesterday and the way he spoke to some people in the audience. I get the joke, and I get how sort of abrupt was that rude to you? Sort of calling you delusion? Like, did you find that? Are you like I?

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No, no, no, I've got thick skin. I thought it was pretty funny.

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I was trying to create some kind of a How weird is that? Then you and I were talking in the day, James. Because you saw the episode. You listen to it. And now you're in the office. So be careful. Be careful who's dmg slide into because next minute, you're on a podcast.

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Yeah. Yeah, Chicago, is it? Is there many tech companies in Chicago? What's the vibe there? What's the market? Like?

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Yeah, so Chicago, um, it's really come along. I'd say in the past, like seven years. It's evolved. So we had some early wins like Groupon, the online couponing company. Is there we had Braintree that sold to paypal. And now it's just getting bigger and bigger can be taxing

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cameo just secured 50 million investment to expand world worldwide. That's pretty impressive.

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Yeah. What does that mean for like a someone who's heading up the Australian team? Where do you pick Java jobs? What does it mean? Where does it where's that money? actually go?

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Yeah, so we, we've had two things. So one, we're building like the cameo team, and then we're building our marketplace. But the marketplace has two sides. So we have the consumers and the fans who purchase the cameos and we have our talent. So on the cameo team, just to give you some perspective, we had at this time last year, eight employees and included the cofounders. And now we're up to I think about like 120 Oh, wow, we have offices in Chicago, la UK now Australia. So we're growing. So

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we had two of us and we got similar growth. Yeah.

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Big expansion. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's very interesting. But the reason why we had to call this episode early, is because three day deal our intern is currently in Sydney. Now Trevor long, organised beautiful state trip actually used his points to get a three day deal, business class, up the pointy end, the he got, like, got to stay at a really nice hotel, the Pullman and so this is where it starts to fall apart. Have you have you stayed at many hotels in your life quite fit yet? So from an etiquette point of view, or things to consider with a hotel? What is that? What are some of the things you need to consider when you're staying at a hotel specifically around if you're hungry, and there's say food in the hotel? What's the unwritten rules?

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Yeah, you know, especially if you're if you're paying for it.

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Like what do you what do you think about like, do you a mini burrito? Do you eat stuff in the minibar?

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It depends what time of day time of night it is. And if

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it was on Kevin, I mean, that's the reality wrong I'm one to stay away from the minibar, because I know how brutally expensive it can be. I went to Vegas once I got so much paranoia, because I lifted one of the bottles that had the white sensor that charges your room, if you lift the bottle of tequila off and have it off for a set amount of time. I put it back down. But I still don't know if they charged me because I was one of those loose 22 year olds travelling on a credit card and I and it was all coming through in America. I'm like,

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I'm still paying it off. Anyway, the so Instagram storeys last night we say three day deal. Enjoying, Toblerone Pringle Pringles bottle of wine. He's never really is 2020 years old. 20 years old. He's not I don't really think based on what we're saying. Doesn't seem that he understands how hotels work? I don't

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think so. I mean, one thing is he wasn't paying for it. So this is where Trevor long comes in the guy who organised this all the guy who it all is if deal misbehaves, it's on him because he's the guardian. he booked the flight and he also booked the hotel room

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and no credit his credit card was on the room. Anyway, trip sent me a text message last night with from three day deal, saying, Man having the best time just enjoying some free alcohol in the spa in the bath. And we're like, what is the chances that this is actually free? Right? Like because I've only ever stayed at one hotel in Sydney, the overload that like you end up with all the stuff, right? They just included?

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Not can code all inclusive hotel. Yeah,

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exactly. Club Med. And so there was there was that so I was wondering, wondering about that. And my girlfriend Bray said, How Look, I've made one mistake like that before, which was assuming that breakfast. Inclusive breakfast means that you could have the breakfast up stairs in your room. And it doesn't cost you anything. Right. Right. And fear.

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Yeah.

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But that's also not the case, as we know that if you if you get room service breakfast you have to pay this morning, I look at Instagram storeys, and three day deals, enjoying a breakfast. He's a nice fucking room.

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He pans out from you know, his castle, and he's eggs up to see the view of Sydney.

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So at this point, we're like, Okay, well, we don't we don't know. We can't like maybe the this is organised some form of brand deal with the hotel. Maybe he's not with you know, Trevor's not footing the bill. And so then, did you call Did you just call the hotel? No,

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I got a phone call from the hotel. and turns out that our actual they had a parcel for deal. So it gets even weirder, someone sent him parcel. And so they were looking for the person that was staying there. His name wasn't actually on the room. It was big media company, our company. And they found my number through our website will be through. Yeah. And so anyway, thanks. And there was a delivery there. But I called them back. Because I had a question for them. I wanted to understand what the charges were to that specific room saying is it was under my company. Yeah.

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What do you think? What do you think it would be Marina what like for if you were to have some snacks and all that sort of thing? What would be an okay level of cost for when you're checking out the additional cost?

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Oh, if it's on someone else's dime, or maybe five or $10 you're paying for right?

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At this point, here's the thing. We never say date the minibar. I think there's just a miscommunication or a misunderstanding of what it means to be staying in a hotel. So I

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thought, can we start at what the breakfast cost?

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Can I say Mason do a line item and the cost for it?

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What was the what was the cost room service $57 $57. And so we haven't gotten to the fact that he did an instal storey where he was holding tumbler own wine. What was the what was the cut the cost of the minibar

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$126. Which brings it to a total of $193

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in turn, has nearly brought this whole business. This is that the most outrageous thing that you've ever heard. I mean, he's Canadian. That's the closest I mean, Chicago is closer to Toronto, then to Melbourne. It means it's a cultural thing. Like what what is going on here? Can you defend three day deal?

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Oh, I don't know. That's a lot.

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That's a few Canada. Yeah, I think we need to get a three day deal to make his money back.

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We're gonna have to reactivate the account. That gives us a whole nother storey The thing is, he still does not know that it costs $190. He checked out. And it wasn't a credit card that was attached to it. It was Trevor, the guy who put him on the pointy end and put him up in this lovely hotel. All on points. Mind you. So he actually hasn't paid hasn't felt like he's had to put cash out.

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Yeah, absolutely. And so now he's had to just be charged 190 something dollars. So Trevor is in a meeting right now. IZ. I say sorry. He's in the meeting today. Friday. Yes, but I think we should confront deal about it. Do you think we should call? Should we get on arena

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to put on? I mean, she has

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to do it though. Because but how are we going to hide the

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comes through the number? Yeah, True. True. It would have been a great thing. If he could have done the

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marina from the hotel

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she would the accent would have gotten right. It would have been. But I think we just call them in and just bring him in.

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Why don't we just get an update? Ask how it was? breakfast? Yeah. was the highlight last night? Yeah.

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absolute bullshit.

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This is not ideal, right? I'm just gonna bring him up on I said, we'll see if he answers. Yeah.

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As a marina, you excited about Australia, Australia is growth of cameo.

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Yes, super excited. And we've had a big audience from Australia for quite a while. So it's fun to actually build the talent base here too.

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Yeah, I mean, I think for companies that are international having, like a presence in like, it seems it feels different. I think Australians like having someone that can actually see and speak to, because how many tech companies are out of the US, you know, fake office, here in Australia that they just need for a number, what's good

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that you actually like getting an office and all that sort of thing to like the actual expansions happening? Because it feels like there's so many examples of like that sort of half assed intro into Australia where it's like, you know, you work out of the commons, they spend 400 bucks a month on a on a desk and they call it you know, we're in Australia. Is that being something that you've been cautious of? In the approach?

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Yes, definitely. We want people to know that we're here and we're real. So if I do slide into your dapps, you know, I'm not a robot. Yeah, you know, you're definitely listening to daily talk show.

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We totally thought she's a robot. Josh. Oh,

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wait, wait, just a couple of robots. Sorry. I'm gonna go I'm going to call the deal on video. Okay, it's time video. Update. We get a three day deal.

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come to you live from Sydney,

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Australia probably too busy doing some crazy stuff. He's been he was swimming this morning. He was at Bondi bond. I did the walk to Bronte.

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Yeah, he's loving the weather up there. I mean, you've had to come to Australia. I mean to Melbourne is that was that I might we might cut you off. If he jumps on batteries. We can continue our Convo Melbourne is a base. Not Sydney. What's the what was the thought there? For me, oh, yeah, for Kenya.

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So I'm here in Melbourne. That's where I live. And so just happens to be in Melbourne, but we're also in Sydney quite a bit. We've got a lot of talent there. Yes.

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Yeah. What do you find a difference between talent in Sydney versus Melbourne? Any any specific different?

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And, you know, here at the comedy scenes really good. Yeah, it's got a bunch of comedians. And also, you know, the AFL is really big here and we're growing growing that category and it's doing pretty well and in Sydney and got, you know, a bunch of actors influencers on it kind of depends with really great talent in Brisbane. Adelaide, so

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YouTubers, and the 41

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is a big one. I reckon that's a huge, like, if you were to, because the thing is that we don't have even like top TV talent in Australia. Yeah. Like it's still like it's not comparable to some of that sort of stardom that say within the US. However, people will absolutely idolise sports people. I think that that's such a big one for Australia.

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I remember, you know, back in the day is a key to having my signature block. Lindzen little red book, and I heard that the Melbourne football club were playing at the local field doing some training so we went down there and you just amazing just like getting signatures and loving it. What I love these years later, I mean these people feel unattainable, which is cameos making the unattainable attainable. Exactly And years later I have a tagline just come on now just came up with

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really good good as a snippet by Josh Yeah, I am stand by Hang on. I'm just going to betray

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just telling me just answer it and say we'll call it the only answer I'm going to get back to that storey about the secret to

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get a deal

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what's up night

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look with we've got Marina from cameo with us we're just doing the show and we thought would get an update on how how Sydney

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Sydney is amazing I'm I'm about to go up and do the guided tour of the Sydney I the big the big tower thing Yeah. So I'm going to check that out had the morning down upon the beach got in the ocean went in the the icebergs

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was wicked now he's looking at you looking pretty relaxed. rejuvenate? I mean, nothing could really rattle you at this point could

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no nothing Nothing can rattle Yeah, I just had to go back to the hotel to pick up the delivery

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high.

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Uber gift cards

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navigate the city easily Jim has

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done so much for you has a

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shout out to trap

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what was the highlight of the hotel stay?

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The highlight of the hotel say was probably the champagne bath

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What do you mean you

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there was a bottle of champagne there and I'm not a big champagne person.

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Was it taste good?

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No, it's not a fan of the flavour

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Okay, so you had em? What did you What did you do for breakfast and answer thing?

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I room service breakfast. Yeah, so I got a bunch of toast cereal. An assortment of croissants and muffins

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Have you done Have you done The hotel is this the first time you've really done a hotel do

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this is the first time that I've been able to go to a hotel Yeah, like that like growing up with when my parents were supporting myself and my other sisters and it was any hotel we would go to with the cutting your standard average hotel because that's that's what we could afford basically as

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I went doing free champagne and all that stuff.

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Yeah, you like you would get your average breakfast. Yes, like scrambled eggs and sausage and toast in your choice of three cereals? Yeah, well,

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I mean, I guess the reason is because no hotel has fucking free champagne deal. Do you deny how much it all came up to?

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There was a lot

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Did you did you realise at the time?

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No, because it was all in the fridge.

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Mr. 97 can you please rate out the bill

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breakfast first we've got

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and we made the call through to the hotel that informed us at the line item of each of these purchases that you made So take it away Mr. Nine 750 $7

in breakfast room service

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so and so the thing was Tommy had said to you breakfast was included was included.

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Exactly so I thought oh that's fine. I'll just check off whatever I will okay

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like we just looking at prices and just ignoring them at this point.

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I was ignoring them. Great ass what the minibar has cost Trevor

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lot So what did you have from the minibar but the What did you have?

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It's not what what did I have? It's what didn't? Yeah, cuz you're a

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fucking pig. You ate everything. What did you What was it? What did you ate?

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Basically everything

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what was going through the list?

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There was try to remember now there was I didn't drink one of the wines but I drank one of them. White wine, beer, sparkling water orange juice, forever rose shade of chocolate

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bar.

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trying to think what else there was.

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It's all right. It's on the veil. It's on the great at the total cost of the minibar. That little champagne bath still

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$126.

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No,

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that's a deal. That's a title of $193. What was your so you've heard you've you've obviously you checking out, I would have told you what point clearly like we've gotten you you've been thinking about this, I reckon all day. Have you

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tried to keep it out of my mind? Back

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in my mind. Okay, so what was the when was when did you realise that things weren't all okay.

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I realised after I got out of the bath, and I looked at this little sheet of paper in the kitchen and said many bars and the pricing. I was like, oh,

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how have you got out of this hotel without you? Yeah. I mean, what do you have? Because you know that you haven't paid for this? Right? You know, it's been painful.

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Yeah, he's paid for it.

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It's a good question. I don't mind

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debate go through. Like, surely I reckon if you worked at a hotel, you'd probably and you saw someone had eaten all of that. They must think that you're either super wealthy. Super dumb. Did you get a vibe on what they thought? which one it was?

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Yeah, I don't know. Cuz like this. This sweet girl came to drop off my breakfast this morning. And she had to like put she had to drop everything and like us both arms. And she asked me for help to bring it in.

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absolutely outrageous. Marina, what would you do it mean, you're heading up the the Australian team if you had an intern that you sent to Sydney, and they ended up spending the equivalent of a nights stay on top of the road? I mean, is that firing a grounds for firing?

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Food? I mean, maybe would have given them a heads up Really? Me? So

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yeah, like, we need an idiot proof.

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Everything that we do. It totally went over my head to even mention that the minibar costs cash.

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That's the thing. It's like if I had realised it costs all this money.

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Oh, no, man, I was just saying that's my oversight. You fact it by. Like I just gave you an excuse. Not at all. Not at all. I'm just saying where can I have gone better in this piece of the equation?

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I mean, what could you have done better?

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Well, I mean, that's the thing of it did was that. Just checking his cards? Oh, yeah. who's who's covering that? Was that you? Was that? Did you pay for that? Who paid for that?

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No, it was it was a like a voucher.

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Uber account is hooked up to my credit card.

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So was there any lessons for all of this? Like being in Sydney? We haven't actually spoken to you since you've been away. Yeah, growing up, what are the what are the big life lessons if you were to have a message for three day deal two days ago? What would be 24 hours ago,

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which is great the minibar lyst

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man you probably avoid the minibar least at all costs avoid minibar. Yeah.

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Open the fridge and I was expecting it to be full of water and it was full of alcohol. It's pretty great.

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I just if you ever go to Vegas be weird. But anyway.

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I reckon To be honest, I think probably Vegas mini bars would be more for

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a lot of free water but alcohol they just yeah, cuz I know you stinking for it.

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Yeah. Okay, well, anyway, so what's up for the rest of your day? Now?

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I'm going to do the Sydney I think that's called the Sydney I do like go up on the top deck and do the little walk around thing. And then I'm gonna go and spend the afternoon with Ben for him. We're gonna chill. We're gonna have some some good old, loving time and then I'm gonna take an Uber locks back to the

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how many credits Did you get from

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$250

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with us.

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And this is the amazing thing. You've literally This is the closest thing that the daily talk show is got into some sort of sugar daddy situation. You way out right in the middle of it. I don't know how to feel. We've reaped zero benefit. Yeah. I'm sure he's there's a there's a conversation that trips having to have accountants liquidation,

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his wife. I mean, who's putting these charges on his hotel that that would go down in bed

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with my wife? Yeah, it's not ideal. Yeah, it's the craziest thing. Like, because Bray saw it last night on Instagram. And like it, no one assumes Yeah, like everyone assumes that you're super onto everything. Deal. So everyone's first thought is like, man, like they're really looking after my free stuff. Like, we never assumed that you. Yeah, I mean, the the other time arena. He went to a pharmacist like a chemist. And without paying. You took the whole, they put they put the description in the in the plastic thing. And he just walked out. And they had to stop and say, What are you doing? We're dealing with an island, just

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like we do it differently in Canada. So I was like, Oh, you gave me this box.

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Oh, I gotta say the minibar. He's like, universal. So there's a lesson for you. The

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lesson is if you haven't ever had to hand over a piece of cash,

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just question at whether the thing is he's, we've spoiled him or Trevor has bought him because he's flying business class. He's not spending any money. What I mean? What do you eat at the lounge?

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Oh, man, what didn't tell you to give me two and a half seconds and I'll tell you,

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you wrote it down. Because I was like, I knew this question was gonna come Okay, great. Just in case you had to pay for that as well.

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Are you ready? Yeah, this might take a while. So I had a ham and cheese toasty, Frosted Flakes with vanilla yoghurt and chia seeds, ham cheese and salami. toasty with some cucumber on the side. sparkling water, a latte a long black, two poppy seed muffins. One cinnamon roll to oranges, a handful of mini cookies. A glass of Stella Artois to pancakes with maple syrup.

25:14
And guess what? Virgin Australia is sent for the bill for the I mean, so there's a any lesson before we go Be nice to sit late. I don't think we actually captured the lesson.

25:26
Basically loved it up for you to take and be out but a nice piece of nice reflection. Okay.

25:36
Yeah, I mean,

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when you trash your mom's house just

25:48
Well, yeah, it's the new Corey Worthington. The they are now the party

25:56
boy. Yeah. It's amazing

25:58
that you actually know how do you see

26:01
the versatile head of Kenya you gotta know you're gonna be across the ship.

26:05
You're gonna be on cameo. actually be a good one.

26:07
He would be good. He would be good. He historic took off in the US. Whatever.

26:12
Have you got a good boy?

26:13
Yeah, well, Connolly? Yeah. Great. Yeah.

26:17
It'd be good. Is he doing a related content?

26:22
shy? He's trying to shy Yeah. Okay.

26:26
I thought it will win a minute.

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Sorry. Whoops. Alright, so we'll say goodbye to enjoy take some photos of the Uber locks Yeah, and yeah, I mean, I'm just still processing See you tomorrow. Alright, cool. Have fun Say hi to Ben forest. and say thank you to trip Yeah. All right. Make sure you say Thank you Okay, good. Thanks.

26:55
We need to we need to tell him that a thank you has to be outside of the podcast where you just said think yeah, I think he thought that's a that's a classic.

27:09
Like it's pretty it's gonna learn somehow Yeah, we gotta let you down anything like that in your life Marina anytime where it's like you thought something was free. And you ended up getting a big bill

27:21
well in his defence the the pharmacy thing the CAD the canvas that is a bit confusing when they put it in like your prescription into plastic basket. You're like all right, what do I do with this now? Like, yeah, the customer service there's just next level

27:33
Chicago you having to pay for before you get given the plastic thing. You have to wait in line and then you're given the prescription and you pay for it? Okay, yeah, I'm here we wait in line, give it over night. Just give you the thing to take to the counter.

27:46
But I was I was in my, on my honeymoon in Hawaii, in Hawaii. While back and I ordered a diet coke with lunch. I ordered three diet cokes. I don't know why it was having three diet cokes at the time. And I got the bill and it was $18 just cut my cheese.

28:08
Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. That's one thing about us with the like a lot of places obviously we do like the bottomless like you can have as much as you want you pay once. But then I think

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there is just a general knowledge that we need to possess to get through life and it's understanding that if you're not if your cards not attached to it, whose ease because you need to have these mistakes, right

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like 97 is smug laughing He hasn't fucking leave leave the suburb suburb Right, Left Left is

28:43
glad you have made those mistakes. I can all learn from

28:47
the next book now but I actually when I was in Vegas, I spent was boys still figuring it out. still figuring so that's the title of three day deals book Hey actually released a book about this the day that he released his book he just he self published on Amazon three day deal now in turn.

29:08
Yeah. Did you find them or did you

29:10
found us and so we've got to make Matt D. Avella, who's got a big YouTube channel. He did the documentary minimalism on Netflix. And deal followed Matt and we were on that podcast. And then he's like, hey, I want to come to Australia and intern. And at first we're like, yeah, that's the surely that's not going to happen.

29:29
What could go wrong? Yeah, exactly.

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And then here we are.

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So but he's at the back end of his trip. He's been he's been great.

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But he had to go to emergency he had to go to hospital like Kelly Sam off

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like legit like 12 stitches like a horrible horrible

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and so that was that was annoying. So this is this whole this whole thing it's all these things that alone Exactly. They very much this is the last internship we'll be doing.

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But when I was in Vegas, why

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is everyone laughing? I'm trying to be assertive. Last one. But now when I was in Vegas had smoothies. And they they asked are do you want to add blueberries to smoothie? I couldn't really recommend the blueberry. Yes. That was true smoothies with the blueberries 60 Australian dollars. Like you never seem to ask how much are the blueberries? I think the blueberries were like 10 bucks. Yeah,

30:26
give it to them. They it's a good upsell. Yeah, well, that's the thing

30:30
is obviously I mean the tipping thing right like shipping in the US is I find extremely hard I prefer just that everyone got paid fairly. We didn't have to worry about it. What's your perspective on tipping?

30:44
That's a big question. Well being from the US I mean, we're used to tipping right so everyone tips you got to eat your tip. Now you're up here at a hotel someone puts your suitcase up you tip them but good

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job had to do typical cheering on now I met that service that was you know that poor person Emily green in our food yeah

31:01
six table to get the croissant is 40% for that Yeah. And so yeah, what's the what's what's your take?

31:07
But what is it here like what's the protocol

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like if you wealthy enough to go to an expensive restaurant and you are wealthy tip so most times it is expensive but if you are going to first time you can afford to T but you can afford to go and treat your family whatever. Nobody TV is people are making 17 to 25 bucks an hour at these prices.

31:28
Yeah, so that's I mean that's what I always feel was whenever I'm like this hospitality I'm normally thinking they're probably making the same as making so it's like it but obviously the US is very different there's like a much like people get paid like four bucks or something can't pay an hour and then they get the rest of it up and tips.

31:46
Yeah, I mean I think if you're waiting tables you know maybe making I don't even know a minimum wages now but making that so you're making most your money and

31:53
Yeah. Did you ever do hospitality?

31:56
I did. I hosted at a restaurant and I waited tables for several years.

31:59
What so was it a diner or what was what was

32:02
was like a family restaurant.

32:05
If anyone's ever been to Chicago, yeah.

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What did I love American like food experiences, specifically diners. That's why I have this cup. It reminds me of being in a diner.

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Well, they're known for their burgers, but the one thing they do that was it delicious, but totally disgusting. They had a thing called an onion loaf. Oh, sounds like they would they would take onions and put them in flour and then make like a brick out of it. And they would put it in the deep fryer. And so you would get this giant onion loaf delivered to a table.

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It's like a bloomin onion. Yeah.

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Outback Steakhouse. Very delicious. Where else have you worked in your life?

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Oh, so I am. I've worked in venture capital for a while. So in Chicago, I think I mentioned I worked out for the founders of Groupon at a venture capital firm called light bank, was there for a while and then worked at another firm in in Cincinnati, Ohio. I don't know if you've heard of it.

32:56
Yeah, yeah. I think Australians are quite across the names of towns like it. Like, there's probably more in Australia that I haven't heard of little towns and stuff.

33:05
Wave. And Bray was saying we're watching a video this morning on YouTube. And it was like a road trip in the US and bros like, got to go back and do a road trip. And I have done so many more road trips in the US like I've done east coast. I've done West Coast. But I have barely driven I've driven more like within within our business.

33:28
Yeah, Australians tend to go overseas. And when you speak to Americans, what I found is they're like, yeah, I've travelled and it's all interstate because they it's like this amazing. You go to Florida, you go over New York. It's like polar opposites. Snow locations. It's got a lot. A lot of that. So yeah, you just stay in your own country.

33:47
I mean, did you when you were coming to Australia, had you been already like outside of career type stuff?

33:54
Yeah, I'd been here I've been here for work. Yeah. So I worked here Oh, years ago. And I was in Darwin Adelaide. Alice Springs.

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Places.

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Yes. Oh, that's super interesting. I've

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got some family in Sydney. So it was fun to reconnect with them.

34:09
Yeah. What's the you've got that external perspective on things? What are some of the like there's the obvious shit about Melbourne about coffee and we would wear black Exactly. Oh, black on the field picked up

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rocks What the fuck is

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actually Sydney Sydney have differently because I had like, a whole bunch of different ones. I'm

34:38
glad that Uber Halle wasn't available. Welcome to the helicopter. Great description at the moment. What is some of the not obvious things for our international listeners about Melbourne that you can share?

34:52
ordering and coffee is difficult. I'm sure you know that. So it took me a while to figure out like okay, this is a lot. Hey, this is a flat white.

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americanos like a long black. Black.

35:03
So what is your coffee? you order

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it flat white flour?

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almond milk, or what do you what sort of milk?

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I'm just regular milk. Almond milk.

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What happened? I just

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think regular milk tastes better.

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Yeah, it's more naughty. I like it. I mean, if you can deal with it. Some people just don't have any problem. Yeah, drinking

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lactose, or I don't Yeah, I don't have any problem. But I just like I got on like almond milk. There's a specific one called milk lab, which is like a, it's the baristas preferred arm and I had a good chat this morning. Getting my coffee I wrote milk is quite popular in the States, we found with heaps before, it's

35:39
really popular now.

35:40
Yeah. And so I think it's making its way here. I remember drinking years ago and protein smoothies and stuff.

35:45
While I was saying yesterday on the show that I went to a cafe in the city. That's another interesting thing about international people coming to Australia, when I worked at a tech company, all the international people thought that they need to live in the same ad. They all like move into that like apartments in the city, which is like such a different experience to like the standard Melbourne experience. But I was in the city and got a coffee. And they actually had the iPad outside the cafe. And so you like order it yourself. Like it wasn't like even a user experience like this is like a nice customer. I was literally using like a like I was using that system back in July.

36:28
I was like man, it was outrageous. But he made it himself. Is the service better in the states do you think because of you know needing to be tipped and those kind of things do you think it creates a better environment for hospital?

36:42
It depends really where you are. I think it may be a bit more rushed in the state you know because they want to get you in and out. Whereas here they'll kind of let you hang out you can see enjoy

36:52
talking about In and Out Burger it's a it's a sort of a contentious issue in regard some people hate in and out of people love it in

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associate with anyone yes it to me so five.

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You like in and out? Yeah. Okay, perfect. He's waiting five. between five guys in and out. Shake Shake Shack.

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What is it for you?

37:18
Will Shake Shack. They weren't in Chicago for a while. So I think the first Shake Shack was maybe five years ago. That was a big deal. And they came to Chicago like huge deal. People really love it. Every time I'm in California and get in and out. It's just so good. Yeah,

37:31
I love that Li x spot like next to the airport. We did. We did a podcast episode

37:36
200 under the on the sign Yeah. Welcome to Los Angeles. I was so good when the planes fly over in and out behind. It's quite a noisy location. Yeah, yeah. It was worth it.

37:47
Yeah. So so out of all of those ones then five guys you get like picking up payments of five guys. You know they do the

37:56
guys it's a little grease here right? If I'm Yeah,

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but if you will. What about what a burger? What a burger. Really? I got so pumped once when I did a water burger Instagram post and like what a burger wrote to me and say can we use this?

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I wonder if you have

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never actually

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not used it your knowledge of the burgers. People live if you live in California in and out. It's just yeah, Mac is you know, it's been there for a long time. And we have it like there's an internet pop up that comes to Australia.

38:29
Do you know why the up comes to Australia?

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No, I don't know the storey

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trademarks. So basically they need to be in business here they need to basically show that they're doing something so that they can retain their trademark they do a pop up sells out like there's lines

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for

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days so people see the pop up and they're like are they must be about to come or whatever. But it's actually just them sort of sucked in

38:52
you have to pay for a deal.

38:56
Free stole the big Krispy Kreme was huge when it came to like I lined up I was a little fat

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kid I told my brother that you ate two two dozen Yeah, I did the show he said it was a machine wasn't it?

39:11
Yeah, it was because I had like a dozen glazed and then a dozen sort assorted

39:17
Josh was much heavier yes now weapon Yeah,

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it was that right but I actually got angry at the at the server because they were limiting the amount that you could buy to 24 no to a year two dozen but I actually bought I want to three dozen and so I ended up turning around to the person behind said how many of you ordering he said Why? I said I'll take his is a 14 year old kid.

39:44
Sugar all the time.

39:45
But what was that for you? Was there anything that came to Chicago? That was sort of a big deal. fanfare

39:53
I think Shake Shack would have probably been It was a pot bellies was started in America. I don't know if you guys yeah. But that was a big deal when it kind of started expanding was a sandwich shop

40:05
was Chicago. I went to Chicago and for a conference and everyone was going for the deep pan. Pizza Pizza. But the the whites like one thing that I don't do it like baby doesn't white. I don't like lining up for shit. And unfortunately there was like the company it's one of those cases where conferences and light like even last night. Yeah, that was like Yeah, I don't think it was grumpy. This Well, we enjoy enjoying the conversation. I think he's a delight. It's super light. Like you're actually if I go to bed at 930 Okay,

40:36
if you get home at night, and if you get home at night

40:39
it's not UY it and then like before you know it you go to bed at 11 o'clock. So anyway, I'm very tired. But the but my point was that the the date pan I never got to experience it because everyone was like, like they arrived at the restaurant 10

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Americans right at lining up. It's like a 40 minute why

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happens and I just love waiting for bad for you.

41:02
As delicious. And Marina, thank you so much. We have ambushed you. And it's been your first podcast so that it could be on the dailies.

41:12
on The Daily Show, what are you excited about with cameo? What's your weight? Like, as podcasters? And what we're doing? We think we're talking about like content, actual content? Like, is it okay for us, if we were to get some famous person to do something on cameo? The licencing allow because I know radio stations do this all the time, they'll grab a bit and broadcast it. Is that against the terms of service? Or can you actually do that?

41:40
So you can't actually use cameos for promotional purposes right now. But I mean, you can a lot of radio shows will actually just like book cameos for content.

41:50
And so they can then use that like

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are you telling them so if you're communicating to you know, Crystal a bro, we need a shout out for radio station Melbourne. lava

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is the is the

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assumption he's expensive. 50 k Yeah, just doing that as a joke. Yeah. If you listen to his podcast, and

42:08
yeah, he's, he's funny. And I've listened to his stand up. He's like,

42:11
Yeah, he's great. But his whole thing was like, he got booked for these thousand dollar figures. And he's like, hang on. I want to go. I want to do one of the

42:20
50 K. That's a good way. I mean, there was a bunch of apps, you'll get it. Some rich doodle iPhone. So it's literally an iPhone app, which was like it was when the App Store first launched. It was like the thousand dollar app. And it did nothing. It was just a flex. So he'd be like, Look, I bought the fat like, look how much I'm wasting.

42:38
So if we if we wanted a bunch of people to do a shout out for the show. Can we use it in now video for say use it in a podcast because I'm sure that's happening a lot more

42:48
like if you want it for promotional, like material like like to promote the daily talk show. Um, we're kind of working on some things like that now, so we just did a really cool video with you guys heard a kool aid that kool aid? Detroit. Oh,

43:01
yeah.

43:02
drink that. And they had the man in the picture.

43:05
We're always drinking the Kool Aid.

43:06
Yeah, the Kool Aid, right? Yeah. So cool. I just booked for like inert for Kool Aid day. They just booked eight of our talent. And they did they like remade their song using KMEOH

43:15
check it out. Who's the coolest rz that's that you you. The people are getting behind on Kenya.

43:24
I'm torn. Melvin Christian halls really big.

43:27
He's really great. And that's what he actually talked about cameo on like Episode 80. Yeah.

43:32
Well, he does Trish.

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Yeah.

43:36
Yeah, we love We love Christian. There's Ozzy man reviews, you know? Yes. Yeah, he's really good on cameo. Alex Williams, and he's the comedian in Adelaide. They love him. Hannah farrier. She's actually in a really big reality show that's popular in the US called below duck. No, yeah. And then we got like Nick Commons. He's big Billy brandless. I love him.

43:59
I believe groundless. I worked on his radio show when I was a little 19 year old kid but I still knew that you don't buy shit and you don't take I used to send me out around Melbourne and I'd be asking people questions. The young back

44:12
well, we when we got out we were getting some thank you cards printed that we want to send like when we have someone on the show, whatever. We want to run it but we didn't actually consider apology cons. Every time one of our interns Fox, we need to like write a note. Anyway. We just came across out thank you anyway. How does this happen? How does deal spend 190 something dollars and somehow this is what we are only enabling till he gets to fly business. He gets luck so bad. He ate what he wants when he wants and poor deal. Can you believe it's pretty rich? Isn't it? Great. Anyway, it's a daily talk show hide the daily talk. show.com is the email address. How could deal pay trip back for for the cost? I'm interested. Maybe you could recap. Or anything services? Yeah, maybe some design work?

45:09
Yeah, there's definitely some kind of some. It was. It's contra by bloody accident. He didn't want to have to spend the cash. Yeah, but now he spent it to get it. Yeah, he's just paid for the services. Anyway, we'll see you tomorrow, guys.