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Episode 42241:44

Limited Hoodie Run

Get your hoodie now: https://thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies Today we announce our limited hoodie run! We chat about the National Achievers Congress, making money online and 3D-Dyl's trip to Sydney with Trev.

Show Notes

–The National Achievers Congress
–Making money online
–Limited hoodies run
–3D-Dyl's Sydney visit with Trev
–An Organised August check in

At a glance

From this episode’s transcript.

  • –The Daily Talk Show launched its first official merch item, a $60 AUD premium screen-printed hoodie made with ANS Colour, sold for one week only at thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies with delivery by 22 August 2019.
  • –Josh and Tommy attended the National Achievers Congress in Melbourne, hearing Grant Cardone, Gary Vaynerchuk, Kerwin Rae and Amazon-seller coach Adam Hudson, and came away with quotes like 'marketing is senior to sales'.
  • –Side-hustle stories ranged from producer Mason Lauder earning close to $10,000 via PayPal on a Minecraft server as a young teen, to Tommy's old Fitbit affiliate marketing blog, to Josh and wife Amy's candle business.
  • –The hosts discussed how having a child changes intimacy and requires renegotiating time and effort in a relationship, riffing on a joking 'Sextember' challenge.
  • –Lighter segments covered cats-vs-dogs social media trends, office title banter (CTO/CFO), and an update on team member 3D Dyl's solo day in Sydney.

Questions this episode answers

What are The Daily Talk Show hoodies and how much do they cost?

They are the show's first official merch item: premium screen-printed hoodies made with ANS Colour, sold for $60 AUD (including domestic postage) via thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies, with international orders adding shipping; the run was limited to orders placed within the week so they could ship by 22 August 2019.

Who is Grant Cardone and what did Josh and Tommy think of him?

Grant Cardone is an entrepreneur associated with the '10x' business philosophy who spoke at the National Achievers Congress in Melbourne. Josh liked him, found him funny and energising despite the outrageous private-jet persona, while Tommy was more skeptical, calling him 'too fancy pants' and the type of guy who can get away with anything because he's a billionaire.

How did the show's young producer make money online as a teenager?

Mason Lauder (referred to on the show by nicknames like '97' and 'Masev') said he made close to $10,000 around year 8 or 9 by running an Australian Minecraft server and accepting PayPal donations from users in exchange for in-game items like special swords and kits, funnelling the funds through PayPal before he was old enough to have a verified account.

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Episode TranscriptShow
0:00

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show. It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 422.

0:07

Josh: Happy Monday, guys. What's happening?

0:08

Tommy: I'm feeling pumped.

0:10

Josh: 10x. Grant Cardone. We've been to the National Achievers Congress. That's where people who achieve go because that's what achievers do.

0:22

Tommy: Our mate Jules Lund is emceeing the event at the Melbourne Exhibition convention center.

0:26

Josh: Yeah. I mean, there's one thing about Jules Lund. He's super generous. Like, he's sent— he's given me tickets to so many things. And there's— so I got a lift in with him this morning. He's, you know, emceeing. He's a big deal there outside of the people that are superstars at this event. Gary Vaynerchuk's there, Grant Cardone, a bunch of other entrepreneurs, Kerwin Rae. Anyway, he he said to me, I'll be, I'll be at yours at 7:30 AM to pick you up.

0:55

Tommy: Right.

0:56

Josh: And I was like, sweet. And then he's, you know, do you want a coffee? He messaged me. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. So he sent me a—

1:01

Tommy: He looks after baby, doesn't he?

1:03

Josh: Oh, he's— yeah, so generous. Except for the one time where he fucked up big time. And I reminded him last night because this is where we're having the text exchange last night, just organizing, you know, the ins and outs.

1:15

Tommy: Organized August.

1:16

Josh: And I said to him I'll be waiting downstairs, which I always am. I go, Jules is a guy who's busy.

1:22

Tommy: I'm a person who's on time and I like to, you know, so generous in that way, just waiting down.

1:27

Josh: Just so generous. So generous. I tell you what, I was fucking really generous once. Jules and I were going on 6 AM flight Melbourne to Sydney and he messaged me and he said, oh look, fuck, can you wait? I'll pick you up about 3:30. 3:40. I was like, oh, okay, okay. I was like, oh, fucking real early. I got downstairs. What time exactly? The time that he told me. When did he come? An hour later. He made me wait downstairs, and I, and I was just fucking—

1:59

Tommy: Was he expecting you to be that late that he—

2:01

Josh: No, no, no, no, he fucked up. He accidentally said— He's probably told me the time he was waking up to then have a shower and get himself fresh. He told me, so I was downstairs and I reminded him. I said, remember that time you told me to wait downstairs?

2:14

Tommy: An hour earlier than I was supposed to, which is sort of, uh, when someone's doing something nice for you, do you tell you to fuck off?

2:22

Josh: He said, my God, really? I completely forgot. I said, yeah, it still haunts me, but the VIP tickets help, which is what we had today. When he arrived though, I just got a text message and I looked at it and I sent you this exact same thing. So open up.

2:36

Tommy: Yeah, I'm confused because you sent me a grey bubble.

2:39

Josh: I just sent you a grey bubble. And I got in the car this morning, I said, Jules, you send me a text with nothing in it? He said, yeah. He said, mate, this is— he says, if you're having a fight with somebody, it is— it's, it's the, it's the, it's the smoking gun. Because if you're— and he's like, picture this, you're having a fight with your missus and you're going back and forth just pissed off at each other. He said, send them some blank bubbles. And then their mind just starts racing.

3:10

Tommy: How often is he fighting?

3:11

Josh: He actually made a point of saying, I haven't done in 10 years, haven't fought with my wife in 10 years or something like that. But sending people blank messages because they're like, what did he say? What was he meant to say? Did he try and—

3:23

Tommy: and then did you ever do this, Nathan? That's great.

3:25

Josh: But then they write back to you and say, uh, what, what, what do you mean? There's nothing in that. Do it again. No, you leave it because then they're just like What the fuck did he say?

3:36

Tommy: That's very confusing.

3:37

Josh: He's meant to say something.

3:39

Tommy: Well, I arrived at the convention centre with Pete Shepherd.

3:43

Josh: Yeah.

3:44

Tommy: We went on a walk this morning. 97s, you will like this. We got a coffee. One thing that I loved about the coffee experience, they had an iPad, like the iPad that you would normally see at a cash register. But it's like do-it-yourself. So, you can put in the details so you don't have to talk to anyone.

4:02

Josh: What kind of a— What kind of a—

4:04

Tommy: Like a place that does Good almond milk.

4:07

Josh: I thought it could have been a place that also does bubble teas.

4:10

Tommy: No, no, no.

4:10

Josh: So I could imagine just like I've been to an Asian restaurant, it was like a sushi and literally just order off the— you don't have to talk to anyone.

4:18

Tommy: Yeah. Uh, Blahj is asking for our PayPal email. We might have to set that up. That's a surprise coming soon. But, uh, no, I— the exciting thing was that, uh, Pete and I were sitting down waiting for Tommy. Pete decided just to wait for— with me. Even though he wasn't going to the event. And we had someone come up to us and say, oh, Pete, Josh, I love your podcasts.

4:42

Josh: That's nice. That's fucking—

4:44

Tommy: What do you think about that, Natty Sex?

4:46

Mason: That's great. That's cute.

4:46

Josh: Oh, and then your little mate. Yeah, the guy you went to school with, Josh. I just see Josh in his messages when we're at this conference, and it's a photo of us from behind. I couldn't quite get it. I was like, is that us?

4:58

Tommy: I thought it was the same guy. But it wasn't. It was your mate.

5:01

Mason: Yeah.

5:02

Tommy: Arun.

5:02

Mason: Yeah.

5:03

Tommy: Who saw us at the event and took a photo and said, is that Josh?

5:06

Josh: Yeah. To some rando. Is that your buddy?

5:08

Mason: Yeah, that's my mate.

5:10

Josh: Yeah. Okay.

5:10

Tommy: Did he say anything else?

5:13

Josh: Just send a video?

5:15

Mason: No, he just, he literally sent a photo and he's like, is that Josh? Because you were, you were behind Jules. Well, Jules was blocking you in the photo.

5:22

Josh: Yeah. But yeah, yeah, it's good.

5:24

Tommy: But yeah. So Grant Cardone, is that his name?

5:28

Josh: Yeah, he's the guy that basically spearheaded the 10x. When people say 10x, let's 10x your business.

5:35

Tommy: Had you heard of him? Because I've heard of 10x.

5:37

Josh: Hey, I've been following Grant Cardone for a while.

5:39

Tommy: I just, I just, I don't know, he's a bit too fancy pants for me, too, uh, filling up your private jet type of vibe.

5:48

Josh: He's a guy that has 10x written on the bottom of his jet and he just travels around the world. Like, it's, it's what I take from it is he's, his main thing is 10x, 10x your thinking. What do you, what do you want this to be? What do we want this podcast to be? What do you want your relationships to be? How do you 10x it? And he's the, he's the bull at the, you know, at the fucking, the guy, you know, holding out the red, the red blood.

6:13

Tommy: And he's the bull as well.

6:15

Josh: And he's the bull. But he, but he, you can, I quite like it. I got revved up. I got, as much as I thought it was silly and there was some, it was funny. He's funny.

6:25

Tommy: Where a kind of, do you think he's trying to be funny?

6:26

Josh: I think people are kind of I think he's trying to be funny. I get, I think he gets that people laugh at him because he's outrageous, but he's also the guy that's got the jet. Yeah. So, so he kind of doesn't give a shit.

6:38

Tommy: And he's the type of guy who can say, you know, you got to fly down to Sydney. Like he can say, I have no idea about geography and it's okay because he's a billionaire.

6:47

Josh: He's pulling out cash and he's just talking about how it's trash. And one of his, one of his quotes was the funniest quotes. And we just kept on writing stuff like I wrote a few things down. Marketing is senior to sales. And then one of his quotes was, I've got books that have helped me that I haven't even read yet, which I can relate to.

7:08

Tommy: That's my whole—

7:10

Josh: you don't read the books you buy.

7:12

Tommy: Yeah, no, but to his point, it's just inspiring. My—

7:14

Josh: I liked the guy, the Amazon dude before Grant, Adam, the Aussie, Aussie guy from the Gold Coast who teaches people how to create Amazon stores. 50% of America's, uh, shopping e-com is through Amazon.

7:34

Mason: It's, it's crazy.

7:35

Josh: It's phenomenal. I mean, the, the hard thing is, I mean, they want it. So if, so if you're planning, like, they have the data to do it all themselves, which is why they create their own labelled Amazon products, and they can just, they could just, just take over the world in one second if they know how much people are making from every product on their site. It's the information they have.

7:58

Tommy: What's the most amount of money you've made online, 90cevs?

8:01

Mason: Uh, I mean, across a period of time, it would have been like almost $10,000.

8:08

Josh: Really? Yeah, that was— you had a survey. Tell us how that came about. Um, and how old were you?

8:15

Mason: I think it was, I think it was year 8, year 9.

8:17

Josh: Yeah, you're right, you know, it was last year or the year before.

8:21

Mason: It was what I wasn't old enough to have a PayPal account, but I was still funnelling funds through PayPal.

8:28

Josh: And what, did you set up your own, like one that had mum's name on it or something?

8:33

Tommy: I mean, he's still using his mum's account, I believe.

8:36

Mason: No, you don't have to verify your ID, so you can just go until they actually pick you up on it, and then really, PayPal, yeah, and then you get detention.

8:45

Tommy: Yeah, detention, baby. Are you sure that you need to be, um, to If you, if you want to pull out any money into a bank account, then you have to verify. But you were just using the PayPal money as credit, were you? Yeah, yeah, as like a balance so you could buy shit. Yeah, yeah, interesting. How—

9:00

Josh: I mean, I hope Bodhi is like that, like year 8 making cash online. It'll be different, it'll be different.

9:06

Tommy: So what were the transactions? What were the— what were people paying you?

9:09

Mason: I mean, they were like donations or whatever to the server, but you got in-game in-game items. So like you'd get like kits and special swords and equipment and stuff.

9:20

Tommy: So would you make the swords?

9:22

Mason: No, no, they're all there.

9:24

Tommy: Like, why are they paying you for them?

9:26

Mason: Because it's, it's easier to get them and they give you an advantage over everyone else. Otherwise you have to put in like hours and hours of work.

9:33

Josh: And so how did you have this idea to create this? At what year?

9:37

Mason: Right, there are heaps of them and I played on heaps of them, but there was no Australian one.

9:41

Josh: He sees the gap in the market.

9:43

Tommy: Absolutely.

9:44

Josh: Yeah, he sees the need. This is all what Grant was teaching. 10x, 10x.

9:49

Tommy: Cash is trash. No, I, um, I was reflecting on when the Amazon guy was talking, which I loved. There's a point where he referred to people as dumb fucks. People are dumb fucks.

10:03

Josh: People paid $800 to sit in the front row to get called a dumb fuck.

10:08

Tommy: Worth every cent.

10:10

Josh: So good.

10:11

Tommy: But they, um, uh, no, it was— got me thinking about Amazon because I sold— it must have been like, I would have made like $2,500 on Fitbits.

10:22

Josh: Yeah, yeah, that's right. You're doing—

10:23

Tommy: that was like affiliate.

10:24

Josh: Yeah, affiliate links.

10:25

Tommy: And so before, uh, before Fitbit came to Australia, I was— I said I had Melbourne Geek, my website, and I would write articles about Fitbits. I'd bought one from Amazon and then I'd write reviews, and then I'd link to, to buy a Fitbit. So if you typed in buy Fitbit and you're in Australia on Google, my articles would appear number one. You'd click through, and then it won't show up anymore, more 90s ads. But you could do a— looking at the cache at the Internet Archives, I'm sure it would be there. But yeah, you'd be able to see all the, um, uh, my content and click through and buy.

11:00

Josh: Yeah, I mean, one of the confusing things that this someone like Grant talks about is the, the programming that we've all had growing up and the, the people that are around us and the people that talk to us about money. And he was very much saying, take stock of the people that talk to you about success and failure and money and what's their experience to it. So the person that says money doesn't buy you happiness, I mean, he used that as an example. But the person usually saying money doesn't buy you happiness is probably not someone with a shitload of cash. Yeah, well, maybe it is.

11:36

Tommy: Well, he was saying that people had— those people had quit on that dream.

11:39

Josh: Yeah, it's very hyperbolic in all of these examples because you have someone like Jeff Jowett on the show that had all this money, extremely unhappy.

11:48

Tommy: Well, he said, uh, uh, he was talking to a hairdresser in the front row.

11:56

Josh: Yeah, he probably paid $900. Probably paid a grand to be in it.

12:00

Tommy: And he says, you know, how do you think she's going to get a private jet being a hairdresser? What do you think, guys? And then he's like, she can't.

12:11

Josh: The hard reality, you're not going to buy a jet and you're not going to become uber wealthy.

12:15

Tommy: We can't. I mean, to be honest, I don't have interest in a private jet.

12:19

Josh: No, he rents it. He said that.

12:21

Tommy: Yeah.

12:21

Josh: Yeah. So I mean, he's like, the rich have been leasing things for years because he doesn't invest in things that don't generate cash flow. So he invests in himself, invests in his business, and then he invests in things, purchases that have a cash flow reward. So they're the only thing. So it's like property.

12:41

Tommy: What sort of rich person do you reckon you'd be in '97 if you had a bunch of cash?

12:45

Josh: Obnoxious blonde head, little prick.

12:49

Tommy: I'm describing him now.

12:51

Mason: No, I reckon, I reckon like maybe like 12 months ago I would have, I would have been interested in like, like a fancy car and all that sort of stuff.

13:01

Josh: But now, man, you don't have your license.

13:03

Tommy: Yeah, really? You would have been fancy.

13:05

Josh: No, we'll just look at it.

13:06

Mason: No, not— I mean, not— I wanted like, like Teslas and— Really? Yeah, I drove Jaguars and stuff.

13:14

Tommy: I drove him the other day in my car and he said, oh man, I'm thinking about getting an i30 when I get a car.

13:19

Josh: Yeah, I could eventually— I can imagine you in an i30.

13:22

Tommy: And so you would have— so you would have had a nice car Yeah, but I, I don't have—

13:26

Mason: I have no idea now. Like, I mean, just maybe, maybe a few houses. That's about it.

13:32

Josh: A few houses? Yeah, just do you like the idea?

13:34

Mason: One overseas and then one in Australia. Penthouse?

13:38

Tommy: Like, no, do you want a big house?

13:40

Mason: A big house? Oh yeah, I mean, it doesn't have to be massive, but just enough where I can have all my things.

13:47

Tommy: Your stuff? What are you buying?

13:49

Mason: Well, no, like, I can, I can have like a gym in there.

13:51

Tommy: I can currently—

13:53

Mason: I can have a pool in there, like all that sort of stuff.

13:55

Tommy: Yeah, because currently you live in a cupboard at your parents' house, isn't it?

13:59

Josh: I was just thinking we could get a sauna for the garage. One of those infrared saunas your mate was going to— you wanted to get one.

14:05

Tommy: We could get a second camera for the show. Yeah.

14:09

Josh: No, what I liked about— I mean, the holiday house thing in my mind is— remember growing up, I don't know if this was the same for you, Mason, but when Josh and I were growing up, it was the holiday— like, if you had a holiday house, like, it's pretty fucking cool.

14:23

Tommy: Yeah.

14:23

Josh: If you had double storey joint.

14:24

Tommy: Oh yeah, pretty cool. Double story. I remember Mum telling me like, like she hated double story. I always just questioned that rationale.

14:31

Josh: Yeah, question the people that hate double stories. It's usually the ones that didn't have a double story.

14:35

Tommy: And also on that, the mum was always like, ah, I wouldn't want a bigger house. You have to clean it. Yeah. Which I don't know.

14:44

Mason: Yeah.

14:45

Josh: I mean, but there, I did resonate with the stuff around that conditioning growing up here in Australia. And what would your parents say?

14:57

Tommy: We had your mum on the show on the weekend. What was, what were some of the thoughts that you got taught from your parents?

15:05

Josh: One that I do now is turn the heater off. Like growing up, I just remember, like my brother was telling me that he had his ducted heating on for a month. The bill for just the gas alone was $800 or something more than $800, right? And I just remember Dad always turning off the fucking heater and put a jumper on. That was one of the things around, like, and I, and I didn't— you don't get it then because you don't pay the bills.

15:32

Tommy: There is something enjoyable about being in a t-shirt and shorts.

15:36

Josh: Mate, it's when we walk into this fucking office, you know how much we pay?

15:40

Tommy: We already have a sauna in here.

15:41

Josh: Do you know how much we pay, Mason, a year? It's a fair bit. If we were to do what you have pushed the bill out to this month, it's over $3,000 a year on a power bill.

15:51

Tommy: Is it really? It will be. You really are the dad of the office, aren't you?

15:55

Josh: But I pay the bills too.

15:57

Tommy: You do look after that.

15:59

Josh: Yeah, I'm the CTO, but I—

16:01

Tommy: No, that's Chief Tech Officer. You definitely know all the CTOs.

16:04

Josh: You're the CTO, I'm the CFO.

16:06

Tommy: We're now just making up titles.

16:07

Josh: Well, you're more of the technical officer.

16:09

Tommy: Yeah, I'm just— yeah. Do you think I'm CEO? Would you say I'm CEO?

16:11

Josh: No, not CEO.

16:13

Tommy: But you're CFO. And what am I?

16:15

Josh: Ah, CTO. Chief Technical Officer.

16:18

Tommy: The CTO is always the— I mean, he's the Wozniak to the Steve Jobs. So you're saying you're Steve Jobs?

16:26

Josh: Now we're both directors. That's why we're not taking the CEO role.

16:30

Tommy: And we clearly don't have any ego about it. So we should be co-CEO. Co-CEO is such a thing when the babies can't work out, isn't it? Yeah. Don't you think? Yeah.

16:40

Josh: I mean, for me, what I've sold online, it's Candles through Amy's business and also the O'Bike Fishing T-shirts.

16:48

Tommy: How did the candle stuff, you were always, there was a level of frustration in regards to completely understanding the numbers, right? 'Cause it was going into the same account.

16:59

Josh: No, no, no, no. I think it would be because for anyone starting a little side business and where you're dropping some cash into, you know, you're dropping some cash in to buy some wax to then buy some, you know, perfumes to put in them or whatever it is. Cents and then you're buying wicks and boxes and then it's like this.

17:19

Tommy: It's a candle business.

17:20

Josh: No, but when do you truly know the profit per item?

17:24

Tommy: Yeah.

17:25

Josh: When you're giving them away, when you're, you know, when you're handing out free ones and shit, you never truly know at what point unless you've done the math and spreadsheet everything. How much, how, like, how do you know what you've really made on them?

17:40

Tommy: That's why you have to like, you need to be pedantic about it, right? You need to be like, okay, this is specifically for this, you almost need to— anytime you give one out, it's like, okay, why am I giving it out? Is this marketing expense?

17:52

Mason: Yeah.

17:52

Tommy: How much am I allocating to marketing? Am I allocating $500 a year to marketing? Okay, well, that's, uh, cost price of a candle is, you know, it might be $10 or whatever the fuck it is. And so then you're like, okay, well, I can give out 50 candles as a media send out, but then you have to consider things like fucking shipping.

18:10

Josh: Yeah, that, uh, Amazon guy was talking about these things as these businesses where you can be making $50 grand month, whatever it is.

18:18

Tommy: What was his name again? Can you look it up? I think it's Adam someone from—

18:21

Josh: Adam Amazon. Just write Adam Amazon Gold Coast.

18:25

Tommy: What was that?

18:25

Josh: Gold Coast Success Congress.

18:29

Mason: Adam Hudson.

18:30

Josh: Yeah, Adam Hudson. He was just saying that these things have to be started before you can start while you're doing something else, while you have a job. Yeah, because you're not going to make any money at the beginning if you're relying on that, right? And then Cardone says marketing over sales, you know. Having your name out there, having— and that was Amy's brand. I did a great video where I was talking about, you know, my wife having this candle business.

18:55

Tommy: We got business cards made, My Wife's Candles.

18:57

Josh: And then we had a bunch of sales off the back of that video I made, like literally from that. And so it's really cool. You see the sort of the fun in it.

19:07

Tommy: I love it. Like Bree works at Hey Tiger and she's got the Shopify app. Oh yeah. So every single time they make a sale, cha-ching.

19:15

Josh: Yeah, it's legit.

19:17

Tommy: It's fucking great.

19:18

Josh: I heard it walking around the office.

19:20

Tommy: Cha-ching. Advertising on Shameless that fucking day.

19:23

Josh: Cha-ching.

19:24

Tommy: How cool is that? How cool to connect it like that. Like you do something, it's like, I'm going to fiddle with some stuff. They did a collaboration with Tofu the dog.

19:32

Josh: Oh yeah.

19:32

Tommy: With Dylan in Collingwood. And it's amazing. You do this thing and then all of a sudden you have people buying it.

19:39

Josh: Yeah.

19:39

Tommy: I mean, that's— put a dog to anything.

19:41

Josh: I mean, put a dog to anything. We could put Mason to something.

19:44

Tommy: Do we need a dog? Shameless were talking about it this morning as well. They were saying, if you think about it, like 10 years ago it was all about cats online.

19:55

Josh: Yeah, Grumpy Cat. Grumpy Cat, he's dead.

19:58

Tommy: Really?

19:58

Josh: Yeah, Grumpy Cat died.

20:00

Tommy: Well, but don't you think that there was a big push of like, I'm a cat person, whereas now I'm way more likely to follow a dog on Instagram than I am a cat.

20:10

Josh: Oh, I'm pushing it to follow either. I mean, I'm over it, to be honest, except for Sam Mack's cat. That cat is fucking—

20:18

Tommy: What do you think, Masev? No, Masev, are you more inclined to follow a cat or a dog?

20:22

Mason: Dog, dog.

20:23

Tommy: Okay, do you follow any dogs?

20:24

Josh: They're gorgeous.

20:25

Tommy: That was pretty accurate.

20:28

Mason: That was a good one.

20:28

Tommy: That was very good.

20:29

Mason: Uh, no, actually, I actually don't follow any dogs.

20:32

Josh: No, you know, hi gorgeous.

20:38

Tommy: But we, we're going to sell the first ever thing on thedailytalkshow.com.

20:42

Josh: We are the hoodies that you're seeing us in right now.

20:45

Tommy: We weren't planning on doing it right. And so we, we had our friend do the screen printing. He does primo stuff there on A&S Color. So Envato, whenever they got t-shirts, I used to have like 30 t-shirts from Envato. Did you fucking rack those?

21:01

Josh: Did you steal those? Well, yeah.

21:03

Tommy: It was a bit like that, but because I was travelling for fucking 3 months around the world, did 90 days, it was like I needed fresh ones. So I just got like piles of them. What do you— what was that face?

21:16

Josh: That was a yonk gross prick who's fucking taking too many.

21:20

Tommy: So I had heaps of the Invado t-shirts, but, um, ANS colour tees are great. Yeah, hoodies, the ANS colour hoodies are just so— are really premium.

21:29

Josh: I'm rocking a medium right now. This just really hugs that pectoral area.

21:33

Tommy: And so this is large. I'm wearing large, which gives you— it's the perfect thing when you're feeling a bit down on yourself.

21:41

Josh: What, to be in a large?

21:43

Tommy: Yeah, like this is the perfect size. I can fluctuate 5 kg either side.

21:47

Josh: You don't want to be fluctuating 5 kg.

21:49

Tommy: What about if it was under? Fluctuating isn't going under 5 kg from what I am now.

21:53

Josh: Yeah, sure.

21:54

Mason: Well, it means you're going to go back. If you're fluctuating.

21:57

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

21:58

Tommy: What do you mean?

21:58

Mason: You're gonna go back, you're in 5kg the other way.

22:01

Josh: You go—

22:01

Tommy: no, but just imagine I'm at— I'm fucking 5kg.

22:07

Josh: You don't get bogged down.

22:08

Tommy: I'm saying that I'm at the— I've come down, I've gone up, he's on 5kg on my top end right now, and so I'm about to strip back down. Yeah, to 10kg potentially, because I'll go 5 to where my weight should be, and I might get a bit gaunt.

22:24

Josh: You need a medium in that case, and you can get one for $60.

22:29

Tommy: You think that I'll need a medium if I lose 10 kg?

22:32

Josh: No, I think you'll need fucking skins. It's just a girdle.

22:37

Tommy: Maybe we can eventually— so anyway, huh? No, we could do— is it called knicks? Knits? Knicks? What's the things called that you wear when you— I got them from Rapha.

22:49

Josh: Did I?

22:50

Tommy: They're like the, the, the skin type things that you wear, but like when you're cycling. Nikes. Nikes? N-I-K-E-S? Anyway, so this is the deal, uh, thedailytalkshow.com/hoodies.

23:02

Josh: H-O-O-D-I-E-S.

23:07

Tommy: Correct.

23:07

Josh: I was actually just checking that that's how you wanted to spell it.

23:10

Tommy: How else would you spell it?

23:11

Josh: I don't know.

23:11

Tommy: You actually commonly, uh, don't do I-E-S for things and just do '-s' or '-ys.' I don't really give a shit.

23:22

Josh: That's why I wanted to make sure that I could make my way to the right domain, and thankfully I can.

23:28

Tommy: So what size are you wearing, 97s? Medium. Medium. I took a photo of you. It's a really nice photo. Yeah. Uh, so anyway, the great thing— the reason I'll just quickly sell why I think these hoodies are great and why I'm pumped to wear them every day— they screen printing, super high quality. When I was a kid and I had a band called Jake and the Fat Man with my brother, I remember just having an absolute tantrum based on wanting screen printing, and Dad was like, that's too expensive, because I wanted mine to say The Fat Man and Jake's was just saying Jake. But they were trying to explain to me that that was two different fucking setup costs because of the screen. Anyway, so we're just— two color, it's fucking great. So how much do they cost? They're $60 $60 Australian.

24:12

Josh: Yeah. And that's in Australia and that's delivery included here in Australia. International, they are $60 plus shipping, which will be added on to that.

24:21

Tommy: So the great thing is that if you're outside Australia, you're getting paid in some other currency. The Australian dollar is a bit fucked at the moment. So if you're in the US, you're basically getting it for free.

24:31

Josh: Oh shit. So I mean, anyway, this is covering the cost because these are high, high-end hoodies and we're not we talked about doing merch and shit and was like, we don't want to do something that's low quality.

24:43

Tommy: Yeah. So this is our first proper crack at it.

24:46

Josh: Yeah.

24:46

Tommy: This is the one that like the premium and we'll slowly as we, if we get a product that we're like we're wearing all the time and we love them, we will add them to the merch thing. But the way that we've got to do it based on numbers is we are going to basically lock it off at the end. I reckon. What's today's date? Today's the 12th.

25:08

Josh: Yeah, end of August.

25:10

Tommy: 20th?

25:10

Josh: Yeah, I reckon. The thing is, before my birthday. Yeah, before Dyl knows.

25:15

Tommy: My point is, my point is that if you're listening, I would want, I would want my hoodie now, right? It's in, especially if you're in Australia, it's all, this is like peak fucking hoodie time.

25:28

Josh: Oh mate, if you want it, you need to get it in now.

25:30

Tommy: Well, so I think that's what we do. Why don't we, for this round, make it that you need to put the order in this week.

25:37

Josh: Yeah.

25:37

Tommy: So then we can get them done next week and have them fulfilled by the 22nd of August. So by the 22nd of August, we can send them out and it means you get them and it's perfect for fucking spring weather. Like, that's like—

25:54

Josh: We'll have them before the end of August. Yeah, perfect. I think that's very much achievable.

25:59

Tommy: So thedailytalkshow.com, we've put on the home page as well. So you can click on and click through the hoodie section. But yeah, I think it's a good way to fucking— it's great branding. The— you had people come up to you, didn't you?

26:13

Josh: I had a couple of people mention on the weekend. I think people are just— you see their eyes look at this, look at the words.

26:18

Tommy: What about you, 97s?

26:19

Mason: Yeah, I feel like I was wearing it to the gym, just like walking in and just the people at reception were just staring at it.

26:25

Tommy: But yeah, great. Well, even Jules Lund, doing a presentation to a few thousand people. He said, uh, oh, this is Fifi and Jules days. This is when I was, you know, doing digital. Josh Janson actually hosts me, uh, with this. He's from the Daily Talk Show. He's wearing it on his top.

26:42

Josh: Yeah, you might have heard it.

26:43

Tommy: So that had some, that had some cut around.

26:46

Josh: Shout out to Arun.

26:47

Tommy: Thank you, Arun.

26:49

Josh: Anyway, 3D Deal is in Sydney.

26:52

Tommy: He's met with, um, do you understand that reference?

26:55

Josh: No. I don't either.

26:56

Tommy: Sidani?

26:57

Josh: I don't know.

26:58

Mason: I got no idea.

26:58

Josh: I don't get it.

26:59

Tommy: I believe it was, um, was when the Olympics were announced in Sydney, and I think the, uh, the person who was announcing it had an accent.

27:13

Josh: Sidani.

27:14

Tommy: And they said sidani. You don't remember that?

27:16

Josh: No, I don't.

27:17

Tommy: If you remember, hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

27:19

Josh: I mean, on DIL. He calls the street here in Melbourne Bourke Street, Bawork.

27:26

Tommy: Oh, Bourke.

27:27

Josh: Bourke. It's B-O-U-R-K-E. So it's— I get what he's saying.

27:32

Tommy: And I corrected him, but he doesn't want to take it. But that was literally talking about like when you correct someone that I understand. Who? Who have you corrected? 97 and I were on a shoot the other day. And so sometimes I'll ask questions, but I'll be behind the camera, so I'll get them to look at the other person, right? Like, so I'll have someone sitting next to the camera and I just say, just look at them, ignore me. And I asked the person 3 times, but for whatever reason— was I doing a bad job of explaining what I wanted?

28:04

Mason: No. Well, you were, because you didn't want to say the exact same thing each time, so you were slightly rewording it, but every time it was clear. Like, it was just—

28:12

Josh: so he said, oh, can you make sure you're just looking over here? Yeah, just completely ignoring me. Yeah, so maybe that's the problem. Like, 'Cause I do it right and I'm literally hiding behind the camera so that I can't—

28:23

Tommy: Well, so was it making eye contact?

28:24

Josh: Yes, if they see your eyes, they'll look at them, right? They dart to it. And so I end up sort of hiding behind the screen of the camera 'cause I'm like, yeah, and just don't look towards me, please.

28:33

Tommy: But the problem was I was standing up and so I couldn't— I made the mistake the other day I was on a shoot and I went on my knees and the interview went for like 45 minutes.

28:44

Mason: Yeah, was it?

28:44

Tommy: Yeah.

28:45

Josh: Where was—

28:46

Tommy: And I nearly like fucking— dislocated something. It was bad. Like, is that normal to be really sore after? Like, I was worried.

28:57

Mason: You were standing up and then you went down onto your knees because you got tired.

29:00

Josh: Why are you asking me about whether that's the case?

29:03

Tommy: Being on your knees? I don't know. What do you imply?

29:05

Josh: I could imagine it.

29:06

Tommy: I mean, you are the one in the business.

29:07

Josh: I tell you what, right? I tell you what. I mean, I get on my knees when I go to the playground with Bodhi. We gotta get, like, going through the tunnels and shit, dude.

29:17

Tommy: Dude, it hurts.

29:18

Josh: Yeah, I'm like, I'm not conditioned for this shit. I don't know, Bodhi's just boom. I'm trying to go through these tunnels at Maccas like, and it's so painful.

29:27

Mason: Bang your knees on everything. Yeah.

29:28

Tommy: Oh, isn't it funny how like, just old. Talking about knees, so 93D Dill, he's not, he's not running, he's not running at the moment because of his knees, but he's, uh, he did— you asked him to do some Instagram stories, classic, uh Dil, he posted them on his personal one, not at the Daily Talk Show.

29:47

Josh: Yeah, I thought, was I not clear?

29:50

Tommy: Building his own brand.

29:52

Josh: Dil, I probably wasn't clear, mate. We wanted them on the Daily Talk Show so we could see them, so the people, the people could see them.

30:00

Tommy: Anyway, so Dil is currently with Trev, and I've seen some photos. It looks like the weather looks beautiful in Sydney.

30:06

Josh: We've never met Trev. At least now one of, one of us has met Trev in the flesh.

30:13

Tommy: Also, uh, 3D Dill was invited by Ian and his family to go to a barbecue.

30:17

Josh: We'll get all the updates on Wednesday. He's coming back tomorrow night, so he's got a full day by himself in Sydney.

30:22

Tommy: Yeah, it's, um, I wonder what he's gonna do. I feel like he's done something shady already. He was having a beer in the morning.

30:28

Josh: Oh no, he was in the lounge. Yeah, he's in the lounge.

30:31

Mason: Yeah, he's having a drink, having a beer.

30:33

Josh: Ain't nothing wrong.

30:33

Mason: I mean, you're in the lounge, I guess you gotta take it.

30:36

Tommy: Would you have a beer on the lounge?

30:37

Mason: No, I don't drink, but yeah, but he's taking advantage. Why not?

30:40

Josh: It's a very— it's a big thing. So as soon as you get to the airport, doesn't matter what time it is, beer o'clock is now. That's what I mean. Going to Bali, like, you just— it's airport bars anytime. You just see people just, just fucking—

30:54

Tommy: I see the— fuck, the alcohol thing is so weird.

30:57

Josh: Well, it makes you feel good. You get on the flight feeling nice and little bubbly.

31:01

Tommy: I just can't— like, I've got to be so careful. I see myself— like, had a glass of red wine on Saturday.

31:07

Josh: Oh, last week you said you weren't stopping.

31:09

Tommy: Yeah, well, it's just not— no, I was stopping weekly.

31:13

Josh: Day. Oh shit, I see.

31:14

Tommy: But how do I go for—

31:16

Josh: I don't drink fucking midweek. That's what I used to say. Then I just go so hard on Saturday.

31:21

Tommy: Well, I only— I was actually good. I literally had one.

31:24

Josh: That's fine, that's fine.

31:25

Tommy: I can't like, uh, I was watching The Big Hack or whatever that you were recommending.

31:29

Mason: Yeah, the great hack.

31:31

Josh: Yeah, you're closing the loop. 5,000 data points on individuals.

31:34

Mason: I wasn't sure about the article, but it said 52,000. Oh well, which is insane.

31:41

Josh: It definitely was a fuckload of data points. Yeah, it's a fuckload. I said a thousand.

31:45

Tommy: It's not a good Saturday night fucking doco.

31:47

Mason: Why?

31:49

Tommy: It just doesn't have the vibe of a good documentary on a Saturday night.

31:53

Josh: All right, mate, don't you agree?

31:54

Mason: Did you want more action? Was it too like informative or what?

31:58

Tommy: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, I think it was just too— anything on Snowden, anything on conspiracies, I just don't need that negativity on a Saturday.

32:08

Josh: I think is a well-made documentary.

32:10

Tommy: Do you want to announce September? What, so we had organised August?

32:15

Josh: It's not, it's not happening.

32:17

Tommy: Oh, you're not doing it?

32:17

Josh: No, no. Who? Sextember.

32:21

Tommy: Sextember. He's gonna have sex every single day and Amy's gonna be involved. Have you brought it to Amy?

32:29

Josh: It was her idea.

32:30

Tommy: Oh good, here we go.

32:31

Josh: No, we'll just— Amy was just, she's actually been throwing out a few you know, months. And, you know, September, um, organised August like this—

32:39

Tommy: what do you call it, like a anal August? But I think it is from first October. No, so, um, uh, so, so it's going to happen September?

32:51

Josh: No, I mean, it could be Salty September, just get dark on everyone.

32:56

Tommy: No, I like Sextember.

32:57

Josh: I think it'd be hard. I think it'd be hard.

33:00

Tommy: Why? Just like, um, well, that's what Grant—

33:02

Josh: every single day for 30 days.

33:05

Tommy: Yeah, that's fine. Grant was saying, um, uh, what's his last name? Cardone. Yeah, he was saying like, if you're a parent and you're using your kids as an excuse, like, there is truth to it though.

33:18

Josh: Like, as you say, ah, you know, we're not connecting as much. And I, and I actually, but I actually believe that because what it means is that your relationship requires more effort than it did before. It's different. And so it can't be the same. It has to change. If things change, a child comes into this world, it will rattle something and there has to be a new something, a new version.

33:40

Tommy: Is there a way of like creating a habit for Bodhi to do? Like, okay, we've got the 6-minute song that he listens to.

33:48

Josh: Don't need that long.

33:49

Tommy: The 3, I mean, 6 minutes gives you everything that you need.

33:55

Josh: A lot of rap songs are only 2:45. I'll be happy. No.

33:59

Tommy: Surely you could be like, oh, is it time to pre-roll? Just, yeah, hot coffee, coffee, or whatever.

34:05

Josh: Easily give them a little iPad to run off with. Yeah, while mummy and daddy have a bit of fun.

34:10

Tommy: It's, um, I mean, is that a thing? I mean, what's the— what is the strategy?

34:14

Josh: We've been having sex before and—

34:16

Tommy: stop bragging.

34:17

Josh: I'm coming and I'm— Bodhi.

34:19

Tommy: Yeah, you don't want to ejaculate while your kid's in the room making eye contact. Yeah, absolutely not. Definitely not. Like, I know, like, having my mum or like a family member calling you is just not what you want. While you're wanking. Yeah, you don't want that, do you? Looking at your phone, your mum calls. Yeah, FaceTime, a bit of FaceTime. Sheesh.

34:41

Josh: Um, no, but Bodie's walked in while we're having— and like, so we're just in the bed.

34:48

Tommy: And what does he— what does he— he points?

34:51

Josh: No, he's just— no, we're not— there's not— there's covers on us, but Obviously it's still mid-action and you just got to kind of hold. Yeah. Kevin Hart has a funny bit. You would have seen it live.

35:02

Mason: Yeah.

35:02

Josh: He's talking about how you can still keep it going when the kid walks in.

35:06

Tommy: Yeah. Hey, get out of here. It's so funny when he does it. Yeah.

35:14

Josh: So, but it's so true. I mean, this is what you're up against. We're moving to a bigger house, so I think it's going to be— it'll be much more room. More room.

35:22

Tommy: That's what you need.

35:23

Josh: It's going to be a jacuzzi.

35:24

Tommy: Yeah, I'm excited.

35:25

Josh: Yeah, if we get this joint, Mason, you can come over.

35:28

Tommy: You know what I did the, uh, on the weekend? I said, um, uh, hey Google, play Sexual Healing, the song. It comes on. There's actually— I wonder how many people during— actually was hearing someone even talk about it around changing songs during intercourse. Oh yeah, because if you got the smart speakers and all that sort of thing, you start saying, oh, net, like, hey Google, next.

35:53

Josh: Oh, next song for this song. Yeah, I guess this song can— I mean, John Legend's lovely just to have that on. Yeah, a glass of wine, you know.

36:03

Tommy: I get it, your Pringles. Well, you can actually do— you could even set up shortcuts or whatever it's called, like, uh, routines. Yeah, you could say, hey Google, let's fuck, and it could move. Yeah, and it would do like automatically change all the lights. Yeah, it would like change all the lights.

36:22

Mason: You can install like a smart lock on the door and it just automatically locks it.

36:26

Tommy: Yeah. I mean, the thing is that I can shut a lot of things out. But you have your finger. Yeah. Like any time I've got an audiobook on, I just turn the audiobook off because it's like some sort of like self-help, you know, sort of like. It's so weird. Yeah. Especially like Stephen Fry talking or whatever. Just like, which I get, which is easier with the Google Home.

36:51

Josh: Anyway, we're actually going to go back to this conference for the evening session with Gary Vee, which is pretty fucking cool. The hoodies, they're on sale, $60 here in Australia, that includes postage. International, there will be postage added on to the $60, so you'll work that out when, when you're at the checkout.

37:08

Tommy: If you're the first 10 people, uh, I'm gonna throw something else into the bag. I won't say what it is, but if it's the first 10 people, yeah.

37:14

Josh: And it may be someone else's merch because we're getting sent a bit of merch by other people.

37:17

Mason: Yeah, definitely.

37:19

Tommy: Actually, I watched, um, I won't get into it, 60 Minutes. Did you watch 60 Minutes?

37:23

Josh: Oh no, that's not worth fucking bringing up, mate. Geez, picky Tommy, picky Tommy. It's about as good as you with your audio during intercourse.

37:30

Tommy: Have you ever— no podcast. I wonder how many people have had sex during our podcast.

37:36

Josh: Maybe.

37:38

Tommy: What do you reckon the chances?

37:39

Josh: If you have, safe space, we won't mention your name. Yeah, send us an email, tell us how it went. Perform better? I don't know, probably not.

37:47

Tommy: It is crazy, isn't it? Or what's a crazy thing that's happened during listening to our podcast?

37:53

Josh: Have you seen something? Car accident?

37:55

Tommy: Or have you been—

37:56

Josh: you've been driving? I mean, yeah, these are all a bit dark. I mean, you're—

38:00

Tommy: what's the dark one?

38:01

Josh: You've got some amazing news. You've got some amazing news. It's been— you've got a surprise of your lifetime.

38:08

Tommy: Your Uber Eats order's arrived and they didn't steal the chip.

38:11

Josh: All right guys, uh, we will see you tomorrow.

38:14

Tommy: Talking chips, I've got something to bring up later. I know you As soon as you said that, you knew what you did.

38:19

Josh: I know what I fucking did. You trigger this guy and he'll take us on a tangent. I'm going to go to this event, to be honest.

38:25

Tommy: I'm getting calls from my brother. Time to stand, it says on the Apple Watch. Organized August is happening. I've got my G-Shock watch getting sorted for warranty.

38:34

Mason: Oh, you put it in?

38:35

Tommy: No, no, no. I've got it in the to-do list to do, so I need to work out.

38:39

Josh: This month is about compiling to-do lists.

38:42

Tommy: And, uh, what are you doing for— what's— how's your meditation? All good?

38:44

Mason: Good. I meditated on Saturday, Sunday, and today.

38:47

Tommy: Oh, very good. It's great.

38:49

Josh: What about you? Check in on Friday?

38:51

Mason: Did we cheque in on Friday?

38:52

Josh: Is that when we checked in?

38:54

Mason: Don't know, I just was just going off the weekend.

38:56

Josh: Oh yeah, yeah, great.

38:57

Tommy: What's, what's your issue?

38:58

Josh: Yeah, oh nothing, I was just, I was wondering when we last checked in.

39:01

Tommy: How are you going with everything?

39:02

Josh: Oh, shit house.

39:03

Tommy: Your ideas are all fine?

39:04

Josh: Yeah, shit house. I mean, their ideas are great. But the problem is I don't see it as like a sustainable— well, I haven't, I haven't, I haven't made it. So for instance, last night it's really late and I still hadn't exercised or meditated and I had to get those done and I had to food prep.

39:24

Tommy: Well, that's why Sextember is going to be hard because it requires—

39:27

Josh: I know it requires people to be in the mood, or you don't have to be— well, hilarious thing through the part where you're not in the mood to then do it because Once you get going, it's always fun.

39:37

Tommy: But yeah, I think there's something funny in just being like, well, like, time. Yeah. Like I have to—

39:42

Josh: 9 PM.

39:44

Tommy: It's actually an interesting thing where it's like, you know what? Like, yeah, we're making a specific time and you just have to do it.

39:50

Josh: Yeah. Because I tell you what, where there is one learning from that kid thing, if we're ever going to use it as an excuse.

39:56

Tommy: Yeah. Excuse.

39:57

Josh: Excuse. You're tired. And a lot of the time when you're tired, you don't feel like having sex. Like, there is, you know, when you kind of like insulate, you're kind of in, you're watching something or you just want to be sort of, and it's comfier to be like this. Not that sex doesn't feel good because once you start, it is nice, right? It's always, it feels great. It's like hard not to feel great, right? And so getting past and out of your shell to then engage with someone intimately is hard. So that's where the month would be difficult because a lot of time you're like—

40:28

Tommy: 9 PM, is that the time you're locking in?

40:30

Josh: Oh no, it's supposed to be like—

40:31

Tommy: I just know when to be very tired.

40:32

Josh: When not to call. I'll put it on aeroplane mode.

40:35

Tommy: Okay, I appreciate it. The Daily Talk Show, get the hoodies. Uh, we did get over 30 people, uh, uh, DM and say yes, request one. So, and so yeah, we'll be checking your fingers out and fucking put your fingers up. I've actually screen grabbed all the people who said that they would do it, not so I can call out, but so I can DM them all individually with the link. Oh great, good idea. Yeah.

41:00

Josh: I mean, you've got a bit on, but anyway, make it work.

41:03

Tommy: Talk show, uh, if you've enjoyed the show, screen grab. Also, if you've got any of your own stories, uh, a podcast recommendation, Finding a Unicorn, uh, done, uh, by my friend Eliza.

41:16

Josh: Oh yeah, is that about startups?

41:18

Tommy: No, no, no, it's, uh, about, uh, dating. Finding a Unicorn, can you Google to make sure that that's right? Uh, no, it's all about dating, and they did all these, um, It's funny that we talked about sex on today's show because there was a lot of sex stories, but they're, they're the podcast who had the big, um, apparition media painted sign. Did you see that?

41:38

Josh: No, I didn't see it.

41:39

Tommy: That's very cool. Anyway, awesome. It's a Daily Talk Show. We'll see tomorrow, guys. See you guys.

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