#395 – Contexts, Words & Intentions/
- July 16, 2019
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show podcast, Mr. 97 has some great blender news, and we talk about the implications of the words and language we use.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Tommy and Mr. 97’s uncomplicated relationship
– The words we use, their context, and our intentions
– What it means to be a feminist
– Premix and pre-drinks
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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 395. What's going on guys? How are you? I'm very well for Tuesday. Big news with Mr. 97. What's the big news that blend is back with?
You know that that's
I mean, fact. That's how you started Yoda. Yeah, my my day started, my son told me that he doesn't like his daddy really well.
I just went in to pick him up. And he just started wriggling nada like daddy.
Right? All right. You want your mommy? Yeah, well, Mommy, and sounds like fun. words have power.
Now, he just he doesn't really know he's sleeping. He's hungry. We didn't give him milk last night, trying to cut him back. I think he's getting a bit fat.
This is dairy.
Like a normal black cows milk, we give them cow's milk, but most kids are on cow's milk, they're on breast milk and then they try and you give them the formula, then it becomes too expensive. So you get them actually can be expected they just start drinking less. And so we got him on to some sugar in Formula. I can look.
I mean, milk is a form of sugar for
lactose, fructose, lactose Sacra, is that all you know, sugars, bad he drinks quite a bit of milk and he loves it. loves it going to bed. I think it becomes a bit of a like, what's your little dummy on your headphones in with audio?
Or definitely audio book but not the moment for me peanut butter toast? I yeah, I just I had to Uber rates today. Just as a way of breaking that bread cycle.
Yeah, that will because I had Yeah, a lot of what probably for the past two weeks, I reckon.
Yeah, second, I will cut bread. Oh, just like lunchtime. I'm hungry.
I mean, speaking of broken bread, Mr. 971 of the most infuriating arguments we've ever had, and we don't have many, like, I think about the favourite dessert. I'll just tell you, this is a nice this is a compliment before I get stuck in here, okay, there's a there's a thing in the meditation app with Sam Harris and you meant to think about somebody who you have an uncomplicated relationship with that you really like I think about you and I and it's like, it
just annoys him for some reason. And you have to sort of recite things like because if I can push over, does whatever he says i Whatever you say, you recite this really nice things around wishing that you have no pain or no any a bunch of these things. I don't know if you've got that far in the app, Sam Harris app, but it's really like nice, it's like these passages or sayings to try and create a
feeling inside. And then you trends. You know, you're transmitting that feeling over to you. It's like, it's really not already like MD
Sam's asking me who's somebody's life that you have an uncomplicated relationship? My, my son doesn't even
know that's why I say Miss 97. But the infuriating conversation was when you went to your mates Greek church.
And you you do that you go up and you get the bread and you do you know the I can't remember what it's called the Yeah, I don't know. Let's go to the sun. You know, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen. You should have using your hand to go my mom would be furious at me right now. But you you touch your head, you touch sort of towards your sternum. You go up to your left shoulder and you go across to your right and then he come in and pray with the hands together. You and I had a had a discussion and you might not you go from your head down dfj
IndyCar cross your right shoulder and then you go across the lip. And I said that.
I said, Nah, man, I'm telling you. It is Father's Day. And I'm like, no, it's the other way. I used to go to fucking church. I was a little church boy. I do more of like just a circle because I know
dandruff but I've been there.
I had to call my mom. I had to call mom and say, how often does she go to church every week or not? Not not. Not anymore. But she prays a lot. She prays
and she prays for you. Really? I'm probably I'm sure she's prayed for you. And that's nice. She prays for a lot of people. She's lovely there and I have an uncomplicated relationship. Do you think she when you can think of very few got through the Sam Harris app? Yeah.
What is it? How far along are you on the last the 50 days and then it goes into the other? How unbroken Are you on the app? I haven't. I haven't had since Matt de Bellas month where he started. I really
Want to do it? Because I haven't been saying how much you've changed. I reckon it's the meditation, isn't it? Yeah. You go into a psychologist or really should not, but that's the thing.
Like, in all seriousness, you don't get angry at anything. I mean, I was angry at Mr. 97 for fucking up the, the hand movements and Mom, mom, just back me up on that one. Is it a different thing for Greg, you the other one was the power of Google in your hands right there. I don't think there's any difference. It's Catholicism. I don't think it's changing going up with great waggon. Right. It's all about head down to sternum across the heart, and then across to the shoulder and then in the middle. There are people that have who wants it I sort of like they've got a their heart is on the other side of cheese. That's like their hearts on the right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, really. I know. I have heard of this. And I think they can. It's helped median because they do a whole beat. Where they will like that will show
Someone and then they put their head and then people walked in one of my favourite quotes, not that I just think it's clever, your hearts on the left because it's not always right. And that's, that's nice, you know, following. You've really you've you have softened.
I think a lot. Plus, I think we did an episode. Hmm probably like a year ago where I asked if you're a feminist, I got so angry about the whole thing.
And the thing and so and even yesterday, you when you called me girl on then you Yeah, pick yourself up later. I'm sorry. I don't know about that. Well, I felt I felt what I say I never said Don't be a girl. I said, Are you a big girl? And I thought about it after I was like words have meaning, obviously. And I was thinking about why we do all and I was thinking about what did I actually meant because I think we respond to things in the moment when we get the context of why we're saying it. So you could say you're bigger which could have the country
annotations it's a negative thing to be a good which i don't think i think the fucking if you're a girl year ago it's great that I was being a gronk no I thought you and what I meant by the girl thing I probably and this is a thing it's I should choose a different word I shouldn't choose a different phrase right? Because I didn't feel good about it after you said it but what I meant was like the gossip nature of your behaviour in that moment and then that's the hope but there's still you know, like what a wake up like it's the equivalent of like if you could say men and more aggressively yeah bro saying men are more aggressive and you could say the the opposite would be saying oh you got you got aggressive like a man well you got a black a girl and Gossip Girl didn't do it any good.
That was a fucking blow sorry if I've just spoiled it for you. Yeah, Gossip Girl was a guy Really? Then you didn't ruin that whole thing? Nothing. I mean, this is the thing right words do have power user gronk Moon but you're trying to sort of like planted a little fucking gossip seed on Mr.
you're defending Mr. 97. Yeah, in the
as a result, yeah, you then threw under the bus a whole.
I just is it not true that there's, there's, if you look at how young teenage girls, how they kind of do a lot of damage, and it's by the gossip chat, it's like the talking and stuff. That's what I was meaning but, but then what happens when, like if someone's if, if a woman is in a role within a business and they're having a conversation about someone, we might be more likely to say, are they gossiping, whereas we might not say the same thing. So all of a sudden, this double standard what I've I find hard. I mean, we have to choose our words. And I think we've done so many episodes that you could tell if we will fuck with so not by now. Like we would have. Come on done. Yeah. And so we think went backwards are probably not listening. They're probably not listening. Let's choose little bits.
I can only handle them in snippets. No. I mean, they've jumped into different podcasts and heard is it a moment? Yeah, where they've just built out something. And that's the thing about this podcast if you finish yesterday, and you're grumpy at me for saying that, we should probably show you didn't even fucking register it. I registered it. That's why. That's why I told you about it. And I didn't feel it. So I think that's the effect it needs to have on the person who says it because if other people just get angry at shit, the people are saying, but they don't feel it inside. There's a there's the problem. Right. But I guess part of it too, is that our default is to defend our position. And so in some regards, like you were, you were trying to provide context, in addition, which there's probably something to be said, which is, I actually think it's I think it has to be the case. I think you need to understand somebody's context. To truly understand. You can't just pull out the fucking not the, the whip and hit them without listening because
I don't think it's right to then defend something. But I think context is important. But maybe there's something in
saying, Hey, this is why I don't feel good about it. And then saying, This is what I was thinking, which is what I do. Now I don't think maybe you did the the job of saying why it didn't make you feel. Right. So you like people might feel this is the whole thing. I'm talking about it right. didn't make me feel right. Based on the things you've said. The thing that it can lump a bunch of people into one category. Yeah. And then I think the hot the hard thing in a progressive society is to look at
it's not even acknowledge some things right. And I'm not even talking about the thing that I just said, but seeing certain classes like men as aggressive or women as like, there are some things that are they just thrown out then that sort of generalisation, but sometimes
realisations ah. in existence, right? So that's where I find it hard to sort of. And everyone's it's a balancing act to work out. Okay. What do you truly believe in? Like, what do you what's its small language? GIFs Yeah, yeah. If I think if if Brian and I are having some form of an argument, I'd be more likely to say I think you're being an asshole right now. Whereas like, maybe 15 years ago, you'd say you're being a bitch. The thing is that the It feels like it's a not like it's a lose lose using that language because it doesn't have it straightaway shows your unconscious, not unconscious bias, but it shows that you're applying that whereas everyone can be an asshole. That's what I think. I think there's a good shift they're going from Yeah, don't copy ourselves anyway. But sometimes people are being Yeah, that's the other thing you know, when you're in an argument or something that you're being an asshole versus you are an asshole, I think is different.
Yeah, but I've also had this, my wife, and I use that.
So but you're being asked all right now Don't be. So don't be a bitch. Yeah, not you're not one. Yeah, but I just don't want to go down that track. I don't want you to.
It's the Academy. I think it's the same white, even though words have meaning. I think it's like what I said, don't you're being a girl is also not far from Don't be a girl. I don't think I think people hear it and I hear the one that's more than the one that I think is worse by the choice of words, but they're still clumped in the same thing. So it doesn't like you're not doing yourself a service. So what I'm saying is me saying
you're being a girl is the same as saying the other day saying why Yeah, because it's like saying, cuz like the there was that whole campaign where it's like, are you
run like a girl. What does it mean to run like a girl and they do me saying that.
But then it get it. Yeah, it's hard. I think like I just think it's it's better not like in general putting those
those words on either agenda because it feels like it's I think there's a lot of people from our generation. Maybe Mr. 97. Zero, actually, he's pretty loose. Not saying that you about this stuff, but I've heard you know, seven, have you been pulled up from any one of the things that you've said that you've worked on? Actually, I shouldn't say that. Yeah, a few times with the words like retarded cancer. Yeah. Not anymore now. And that's, that's the thing. What was it? What did it used to be? I mean, this is thing young kids grow up thinking that the word with the meaning of retarded was the actual thing I'm saying that you are, and that's young people with you. It takes time to learn this shit. The fact that
It's not it's not okay. So do you think that there is then a portion of the population that was previously isolated based on the language? Say, what do you mean? Were there people who really kept like, who spearheaded? Actually, it's not okay. Like 15 years ago, when you would like watch films or whatever, and they would say retarded. It was sort of insane. Like it was like it was funny because you didn't really connect it. But maybe part of it is because like now, we're so much more connected. We empathise with the people who does actually impact so it's always impacted someone always has exactly right like it's all of a sudden it's like all these. A group of people now care about this. That's why I don't think we should just crucify somebody as they attack as a young kid. I think about kids that would say it right? They're not actually meaning the person that is suffering from a disability. As a kid I used to say heaps of words that I fucking mean.
They literally had no white within me that are still using the word. And so there's an education piece. That's why I don't think you should just people should just be in trouble. In the first instance. It's like the gronk they keep saying the ship is the fucking gronk and has the problem and needs to be, you know, however you deal with. There's something fun about using two boo words. I mean, yeah, like with your mouth, like I guess that's the risk isn't it is like, like comedy, you know, what sort of thing there's something? Is it wrong that there is an internal bond created when you say naughty things? Yeah.
That's why that's why I think right, the person who is getting annoyed at someone like me that says that thing, it's like, everyone fucking slips up. Not everyone is in a position where they have their voice recorded every day. And so that's that is a different podcast between Sam Harris and Ricky device is phenomenal and two very intelligent people. Sam Harris.
Is the call that has the medicine meditation app that I use. And they did a two and a half hour episode. They go into this about Ricky who's a comedian who makes jokes in. He's looking at the progressive society and he's a lefty, right? He agrees with a lot of things with the left and says one thing, he jokes about something from the right and next minute, he's a right wing Nazi. And I think he articulates because he's in a position where he uses a lot of words that have meaning, but he's thought about how he's using them, and they still get taken out of context. Do you think that may be also the risk of saying like, you're being a girl, or you're acting like a girl or your big girl in first name, it's a negative connotation, but also maybe it's like, also think about dudes, like we did the whole the line campaign or whatever, which is like to be a guy you have to be a certain way you have to be aggressive you have to be and so that's the other side of it. Not only is it negative towards women or puts them in a position
But it's also setting up the expectation of what we're meant to be versus what but think about also like, the battle of the sexes, like think about the amount of shit that they used to be in the mainstream media that they just wouldn't be today. Most of the shit that we hate growing up
like, the the racism that we like it was it's only he didn't even classes as racism back when you were young. Yeah, it's phenomenal. It's like well think about like, Man glad I'm glad that my my son won't have that kind of shit. I remember Aboriginal jokes as a kid going around the school, like fucking that is inappropriate. And so I'm glad we've come from a time where we've been able to see right we've come from over here and we're going to a place where it is a much more
it's it's more of an unacceptable thing. Yeah. So is that then political correctness
Because I think the people who when you start talking about politically correct you start throwing it into a basket of No, but it's actually okay. You guys are all just winging it. So I think there's a whole bunch of shit that can be taken off the table that isn't, that isn't good. And I think then, when that stuff's taken off the table, a few people get upset that they got their thing that they like, taken off the table. I mean, I wonder whether
you wonder what the future is going to be like?
97 you've got younger siblings.
what's the what's the vibe? Do you think it's going to become more sort of like this way? Or do you think that like, I think some people will say it's a we're overcorrecting at the moment and then it's going to go back but then yeah, I don't think it's
back. I just think the the Ricky Jabez talks about the noise that he hears
From his Twitter account is like walking past a bin. And there's a guy in there yelling profanities back at him. He said, that's, that's the equivalent of Yeah. And he's like, it's a small percentage. So right now, the noise that we hear, doesn't speak for everybody, but he's very noisy, right? So if someone gets taken down online and shit, it's like, you go outside. That's what he says. He's like, you're in the Twitter and it's fucking crazy. You guys are it's like, no one's actually saying it and you know, shit. And so, so I think young people are much more progressive. Yeah, than we were when we were younger. What is that? What is wearing? What does it actually like equal in regards to conversation and living and what has actually made?
Well, I don't think the whole thing is like overcorrecting because you still got like, we've still got like, way more to go in terms of rights and equality but
It's it's hard like I just I just hope that it continues like cuz you got all the noisy people right? And it's like he listened to
like some some of the guests at Joe Rogan has on and they're talking about like the 4% of people that are all the vocal ones that are really really, I guess progressive but majority of people like I guess it just comes back to empathy and kindness like you just you look at all the people that
like they're not being recognised for who they are or whatever. And
yeah, I don't know, it's is there an all encompassing values set? Because I guess everyone has different values? Yeah, exactly. So how do we that's, I think that's where the empathy comes in. I don't think your values matter. I think if you just put yourself in their shoes, then you're you're living through their values. So if you can understand that, then regardless of your values,
Doesn't matter. Yeah. And so then I guess there's a level of understanding that needs to happen. Which, unless you're part of those, like I think that what's may be helped me over the years is listening to stuff that's not people like us talking.
Like, as one way
to think about it, we didn't have the conversation around gay marriage and equality like this wasn't a conversation when we were young. Yeah, so I wonder about I never once thought anything about gay people I have never once thought it's not okay. We got it never in my life, but you will also that's that's 100% it was it was like a detached your vocabulary detached from the thing Exactly. But then in now, like, now, young kids that are at that same age is the thought of, you know, the conversation around gay marriage and all of these things, which then makes you think
think more about it. So you then start thinking, and having more of an opinion about it whether that opinion be I totally support same sex marriage, you know, which we didn't have that thought because there was no same sex marriage to support back then it was not okay. Right. And so it wasn't even conversation. So I think it's a good thing that young people are being exposed to these things because it makes them think and then makes them
start to see what are we want? I didn't feel like when I was young, I had a same what we wanted. Did you? Did you feel that?
Like, I have all know, it feels like you were your opinion was based on the older people around you. Exactly. Because that's all you had. So it's like, you would say something and then there would be, you'd hear your parents or whoever was talking about that thing. And then you're like, God, that's the way of the way that is. But then I guess, nowadays, it's
Not like you just have, you're not just watching home improvement, and like TV, but you can like go online and follow people on Instagram who are really progressive who are bringing up these issues. Yeah, that young people are then, you know, consuming.
I guess part of it is it's like,
which is a privileged position to be in which like, how do we how do you not like, stress about like, how do you just like, everyone just chill, how do you be empathetic and all that sort of thing, but also just chill the fuck out where it doesn't sort of do right? Like it feels like for a lot of people, especially if you're in the minority. It is all consuming like you'll listen to, you know, I listened to African American people and having a podcast and every conversations around colour. That's like it's not it doesn't even feel like it's wouldn't even think of it necessarily is an issue. But then it's because they're living this day to day
Yeah, well, I think podcasts and you know, the the internet is given us access to people's internal dialogue. Yeah. And so, but even Charlemagne, the god, I was listening to his audio book, and he was talking about and how all of those things those narratives ended up being a disservice because he was always quick to say, like, position of like, everyone's out to get me on the minority, which it's hard, we're not in the position to, to really give any interesting insights into
tell us feeling is that I know it's good. Now you're going through the gym. I'm good. Just on just touching back on that I'd like there's a lot of people talking about it, and a lot of people bringing it up. But I don't think everyone's necessarily listening in listening and understanding, right? Because you can talk and I can listen to you. But if I don't understand what
You're saying I'm not going to retain it, and I'm not going to do anything yet. Right. And there's, there's I'm not taking any action about it. Yeah. And I think that's what a, like a lot of not to say that everybody is, but I think a lot of people are doing is they're, they see it on Instagram and stuff and all this stuff about colour and gender and everything that's going on. Everyone's seeing it. They're reading about it, but they don't understand what it means to them and how it impacts their life. Right. So, yeah, yeah, it's it's a it seems.
Yeah, working out what the actionable bits? I think is the is the interesting that.
I think also,
you're saying a year ago, we had a conversation about whatever.
actually having conversations out loud with people is what I believe one of the only ways to start really solidifying your thinking and questioning how you might respond to something so you might actually say the wrong thing.
But it's only because of an existence that you've had up until this point where it's just a reaction, like the girl thing is like, yeah, you know, there's these campaigns against people saying that shit, the people who are saying that she probably grown up saying that shit. And so it's time for a change and, and that's where starting to talk about these things with people what's almost like I think the funny thing is in those moments where you when you said said that I was thinking like,
it's, it's in alignment with you five years ago or whatever, but it doesn't fit like it's it's the your vocabulary or the wife speaking is catching up with your point of your worldview. Yeah, don't you think? Yeah. 100% and where you are today versus 10 years. So if someone listens to this conversation in 10 years time, it seems so primitive, because you're not actually where if you're the same person, 10 years for Ricky Jabez, I think said, your CD block. Yeah, your CD person is really good at whatever you're doing.
person that's so true because there should be some growth there should be some level of growth if you stuck in your wise as a person not a fuckin us also a guy
that's come on dude, man just have a think about it a little bit more. But that's why talking it through. If you're around a bunch of people to do the same shit. You probably get that echo chamber or whatever.
I think we've i think i think i'm definitely more progressive from hanging around with you. What do you think of that? Like, if you think about the feminism stuff, like I trying to remember that I remember it felt hated. Yeah, but it's also like, I think there's probably
I think you asked me if I'm a feminist and I said Why do I have to answer that? I like equality for women fucking eyes, like all these things. So yes, I have all the traits of women. So that was my point. But the the, the bit that you should be completely
comfortable with which I think you are now saying I'm a feminist like it doesn't like it's not a trick question. Like, I think people assuming this is some fucking big trick question where it's like, I think it's even changed since we've spoken about I think that noise around people who are shitty feminist, and making it making all the feminists who just want equality for women, making them look bad, because there has been a time that that's happened, right. And so, I think most people are, like, most people should be feminists, by the shitty feminists, people who have given a bad rap where it's an attack on men, or there's been, you know, men are the enemy style because
Like I look at my wife, and she's gone from having those feelings that and that anger towards men into having a complete shift where she's still a feminist, but she doesn't have those feelings anymore. Yeah. And so it's the
You it's a case of you can't lump all feminists in with the feminists that are taking it a bit far. And abusing men. Yeah, cuz then it's like, that's not how it works. Yeah. So there's multiple, you know, facets of that. What do you think about, like having a podcast having a, you know, a daily talk show?
We're talking I was talking to miss a nice Evan about is like, could we be talking more about news? Should we be talking more about things that are happening out and about Pinelli news from?
Well, he gets
to very tech heavy tech heavy. Yeah. But I mean, what's the
what's our responsibility? What do we want to be talking about? Like just in general? I mean, these conversations
This is shit I think about it my head a lot. And so if there was a I think it'd be a problem if I never thought about this stuff. And I might besides probably something, trying to explore but it's not easy.
You to explore this stuff I think there's a white to that comes with talking about this because you're trying to choose your words to not be fucking caught out or like, or just also not articulating how you actually feel, which is wise then people can say I gotcha. Yeah, but I haven't got I feel like I'm a good person. Yeah, I feel like you know,
I'm all those things and so the idea I like having fun. I like talking about fun stuff. I like talking about storeys, I like having experiences, revenue guys have a bit. You do something fun you didn't upload into the storey last night of a car that was covered in our managers deal. It just it was just pulling up alongside and I was like, What is this stickers all over this thing? And on it said they look homemade, like what would I do it they were like if we just got a bunch of little stickers that headline thing, big media company and our dress. You know the daily talk show the website
And then they stick it on the couches that you would see on an envelope labels like labels that you'd put on something so if you lose it they do have a menu log sticker as well. Yeah and so I thought but then I read read the actual so they've used the stickers to make it say something so come on no come 0395348833 Call me baby and I mean I will absolutely know that and I'm looking at the driver. This dude I'm just like, is this a brothel? you working? What is this? This is seems brothels on many long well I didn't know if the Manila meant English. It was a shitty car. I was like surely you can't. days. Yeah, many log feels like it's one of those stickers. Certain stickers that just stay on buildings. It will go through six different restaurants but the menu log sticker wise day so I ended up posting it on the
talk shows instead.
Yeah, well, I didn't I thought someone else would. And someone else did
a Mac shade scenes at the same centre through our number one white man. And it's my home restaurant. The Chinese dim salmon Cantonese fair. West like so they're just doing deliveries on see there's a lot of work that's gone into that sticker.
Maybe the other sex sells.
So do you think that's what they'll going to know? It's like calm or no camp. It's like, call me baby. You call me baby. It's complete sexual connotation. Yeah.
Anyway, just a
Chinese restaurant Trello hustle.
With we updated the homepage of the daily talk show.com every few days. Yeah. So you can go see what we're doing there. If you are listening this far, to winning storey screen, grab your podcast app or take a foot like I like the ones where people have taken a photo Russkies labs
Jim photo, Jim takes a photo of the video which is cool. That's a good idea. So you can see where you're at listening to it love that. We were hitting Episode 400 on Sunday. Yes, good. Yeah, I'm excited for that. But also, many guests from after Episode 400 you'll start to see it's flowery a word. Yeah, yeah make flowery, flowery FLURRY yes a flurry of guests put it MC at the front. McClory of getting there we're gonna have a flurry of guests starting episode for another thing I'm pissed off about what make flowers back in the day. They had a machine that they would put the actual spoon I'm into and then they would hold it up and go all now just mix it just like dump it on and leave it's just like they can just mix it yourself. And I bet pre mixes so good.
Can you still get pre-mix alcohol? Yes.
Yeah, yes, I got to do more. No just talking pre-mix there was a debate tax at higher or something where
In Australia recently, I mean, you speaking drink. It seemed like there was Eve in Australia. It's very I remember doing a school debate. What about on pre mixed drinks? Should you tax him? Yeah, it was somebody about like, should young people should? I think they wanted to set it up so that I should there be no. Should it be an older age to have access to pre mixed drinks? Ah, which is a little bit confusing because confusing.
liquor? Yeah, at a young age, you gotta mix it yourself in America. I don't do as many pre drinks as us really pre mix. Premium pre drinks. Sorry, did I say? I don't do three mics like what we do. We have, like all the Bourbons in cans and shoot, they've just liquor so cheap. It's 15 bucks for a huge bottle of bourbon. I do understand pre drinks a lot more as I get older. Why? Well, I never sort of understood that sounds fucking boring, but it will rise. And so they're trying to get tipsy beforehand, plus, now you've
actually gone backwards as you get older.
people doing free drinks are really it's a young thing because young people are tied acids like drinks in my house all the time and my mom would bring around Bourbons and fuckin would all get piece before we go to the bar because we're too tied us to smell
like this like people being socially awkward they try and have a drink before and now that's not a thing
Yeah sure. Like getting windy getting dressed and stuff I've been smashing a few by just like getting bit fucking But hey, gallon before but yeah pre drinks though I'm Yeah, but you're saying I understand pre drinks were but that was the mindset of the young kids drinking hate before they go out. Because then they don't want to miss nothing anymore. I'm sure it is 100% of thing in college. Yeah. What about like, I guess what we're not sure about is older people. I mean, we've got less time Look, I'll meet you at the bar right fact I gotta sort out the kids. And you know, and what you're saying is about while they're putting their pants on and stuff they're having it might be one in the shower, little
BI the pre drink culture in my experience was when I was young 16 seven at night and not a lot of people on doing pre drinks you just made it the bar you just going out for dinner? I mean you think it's it makes sense that people have more money as they are a bit older. Which for me sounds like more pro drinks but what you're saying is no free drink. It's not the free drinks like it used to be okay, I can show you photos and we used to have to do a talk show hi the daily talk show.com your pre drinker and I think Gemma watts is
not saying no until you pray drink a production drinker and post production drinker.
All all three.
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