Eyewitness Janssen

Tommy: The Daily Talk Show.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 310.

Tommy: Happy Monday.

Josh: Did you see that spit come across?

Tommy: I didn't see it.

Josh: I did a big bit of spit there, sorry about that.

Tommy: Solid effort.

Josh: Are you someone who would point out if someone was to spit on you?

Tommy: Oh, like as in mid-conversation, just accidentally, just a little— nah, I've very much not said anything Very much. I'll just stop talking. No, I've— I haven't said anything. There's a couple of times it's happened. You don't— like, you're the dude who avoids awkward situations at all costs. Uh, I couldn't imagine you ever do it, like, pointing it out. You're like, it's in my mouth, I've got something, I've definitely caught something from this person.

Josh: Yeah, I don't mind too much. I'm someone who will share cups with someone.

Tommy: Yeah, we shared a coffee this morning. When I say shared a coffee, you brought a thermos and poured your cup full, and then I drank out of the Purpose. But I was surprised that you kept it going back.

Josh: Yeah, I don't mind.

Tommy: Like, you kept on grabbing and pouring more into yours, but I'd been sipping at it.

Josh: I feel the only time I would ever sort of be like, oh, which side of the cup, like being weird about it, was to make the other person feel really sad.

Tommy: So you don't give a shit?

Josh: No.

Tommy: I'll tell you what you do give a shit about— numbers that you don't have in your phone that call you.

Josh: Well, I just feel like there's a lot of people calling nowadays, whether it's scamming, pretending to be the ATO, the tax office here in Australia.

Tommy: So I've got a handful of friends that I know they screen my call when I'm calling.

Josh: And that's another issue altogether.

Tommy: Yeah, that's it. That's a, you know who's calling and you're like, oh, I'll just get it later. And I think it's just their anxieties. But I think I've always had the rule of just answering the call, whoever it is. I'll just, especially unknown numbers, I'd probably screen someone's call just like, I'll get back to them later. But Answer it.

Josh: What's the worst that can happen? The thing is that the voicemail, like, that's what I like about the voicemail function. I now am with Telstra purely for the fact that I've got visual voicemail, so I can see, I can click on them and I can listen to them.

Tommy: Geoff Jowett, who we've had on the show, he, um, his voicemail is hilarious. He says something like, uh, thanks for calling, uh, do not leave a voicemail, I will not be listening to any of these. So he does the opposite. I know the Telstra thing's good, but we all, would you say we could have missed an opportunity had you not taken my advice and called this number back? 'Cause he spent 5 minutes trying to Google the number.

Josh: I was Googling, I was getting to the point of calling them back to be clear.

Tommy: You were?

Josh: But the thing is that I was like, before I call them back, I'm gonna make sure that it's either someone that I wanna talk to or if I don't know, like if I can't work it out, I was gonna call them, but I wanted to do my due diligence and be like, Okay, am I not? I didn't want to end up on a scam call or ended up like—

Tommy: But you just hang up on them. I've got— I'm brutal. As soon as they're, "Hello, Mr. Jacket," uh, hang up. Thank you. I know who you are. I know what you're calling for.

Josh: You'll call back.

Tommy: You won't call me Mr. Jacket if you know who I am. Mr. 97, I feel like you would be rattled if you got a phone call.

Josh: He doesn't even answer my call.

Tommy: No, the kid doesn't even get phone calls.

Josh: Yeah. What do you—

Tommy: do you communicate with your friends?

Mason: No, not really.

Tommy: Do you have friends outside of us?

Josh: We actually do. What about the other day when, this was probably a month and a half ago, I called Mr. 97.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it answered.

Tommy: Yeah, it sounds surprised.

Josh: And I just heard, "Mason, you got a call." And then I just hear like a hang up, like a fumble and a hang up.

Tommy: Who was it?

Josh: And so I was calling 97. And I think, what happened?

Mason: I literally just hopped in the shower and left my phone on the bench and Sam came running in.

Josh: Your brother?

Mason: My brother Sam came running in. He was like, oh mate, you got a call. And I was like just panicking. I had no idea what to do. So I was like, hang up.

Josh: Bad lord.

Tommy: Did you know that he'd answered? So you did? No, I didn't know.

Mason: I didn't know he answered. Like he just, he came running in with the phone.

Tommy: Yeah. Every time I call him, it's like this, Tommy!

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Josh! Surprise, like super surprised. Oh, he's called me. Tommy, can I help you? He's like, yeah, I just called you, bro. Yeah, I want to have a chat with you. What is it about your generation? Like, because you're 19.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Is this a thing within your mates and this age where you're just not actually getting on the blower?

Mason: That sounds real weird.

Josh: Um, blower is phone.

Tommy: Yeah, just getting on the phone call.

Mason: Yeah, I don't know. I, yeah, I, I think like if, if it's like a best mate or something, it calls like I think it's like okay if you're like best friends, but yeah, it's just weird when you're talking to like someone else. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's just like uncomfortable with— yeah, I don't know, talking.

Tommy: Like, let's say for example you were, you know, potentially dating a girl and she just called you. Like, you hadn't— hadn't— you'd maybe caught up once, had a nice time, and then she calls you. Yeah, just what would you— what would you— what would you feel?

Mason: At the start, I think like when you see, look down and see who's calling, you'd be like, oh, hang on, what, like what's going on? But like after it is fine. I think it's just like the initial anxiety.

Tommy: I tell you what's going to happen. I'll tell you where this also leads to, this lack of communication on these kind of devices. I think you and I were together working on a job and the, maybe it was the HR person was saying there's a real problem in businesses these days where people just stop rocking up. And they've quit. They haven't told anybody. They literally just haven't handed in their resignation. They stop answering any calls.

Josh: It's a ghosting. It's like an actual, it's a problem within businesses.

Tommy: Well, 'cause we're like, especially when there's a contract involved and WorkCover, you can't just sever someone's employment just 'cause.

Josh: I'd be pretty disappointed if Mr. 97 just stopped rocking up. What would we do? I don't know. I was actually thinking about that around like, we haven't sort of have, we don't have contingency plans for if 97 has a sick day.

Tommy: I know, I mean, we are capable of doing what he does.

Josh: I don't know, the more days he does it for us, the less I'm like willing to do stuff.

Tommy: He better not be one of those employees that starts thinking, these guys couldn't do it without me.

Josh: You'll just, 6 months in, we'll come in just.

Tommy: I teed up a guy to work with my dad who's a landscaper. And he didn't rock up on a Monday.

Josh: And sounds like one of your mates.

Tommy: My dad caught— he was a year above me, um, and he wasn't really a friend, but he was, you know, an acquaintance. We went to primary school and then I knew him in high school stuff. Anyway, he, um, my dad ended up going around to his house because he was really— I think it's really unusual, like he was more just concerned a bit. I mean, my dad probably had the right concerns because he ended up being a bit of a junkie and he robbed one of my mate's houses.

Josh: That's not good.

Tommy: And so, and then he fled and was— I actually saw him in Bondi once. He was wanted by the bikies.

Josh: How did you know? Were the bikies putting out the sunlens?

Tommy: Uh, he ripped off someone in a drug deal, stole all these bikes.

Josh: Don't do that. Well, I've ended up somehow in sort of the same field, being on a wanted list.

Tommy: Minus the drugs.

Josh: Minus the drugs. Well, we didn't talk about it on Friday because we had the Shameless Girls on the show. Yeah. But, uh, that morning was one of the biggest mornings I've had this year.

Tommy: Yeah, your eyewitness account of a crime.

Josh: Also at 4:30 in the morning, we've been sleeping with our sort of window ajar to have some fresh air coming in.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And the— basically we heard this really loud bang. Yeah.

Tommy: And you just shat yourself.

Josh: Well, I straight away woke up like, you don't know what's happening. Like when you hear a bang that loud, it was like a really loud bang. You think of that, I've just got this vision 'cause we're quite high up in the apartment and I have this vision for some reason of the whole apartment tipping.

Mason: Oh no.

Josh: And what would that feel like? Like what do you grab onto?

Tommy: You're done for, mate.

Josh: Yeah, but I just wonder like, what do you do in those moments when it's all falling? You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like I imagine making that sound.

Tommy: Doorframe, go to a doorframe. Isn't that like a thing in cyclones and earthquakes? You go to a doorframe and hold because it's like a structural point.

Josh: Oh, that's good.

Tommy: That's what I have.

Josh: Maybe bathrooms as well.

Tommy: But if your building is falling over, you are fucked.

Josh: So anyway, but we heard this bang, look out the window, and there's a ute, which is like, what would you, international listeners, what's a ute?

Tommy: Oh, it's a pickup truck.

Josh: Yeah. Had reversed into like a door of a shop, right? And the guy was in high-vis, so it looked like they were like trying to deliver something. I didn't know what time it was. It woke me up. And then I realised that it was a ram raid and they were trying to smash the front door open.

Tommy: Yeah, they fucked it.

Josh: Well, they got caught on a, on a pole, like a steel pole that was sort of specifically designed for if cars tried to ram raid it.

Tommy: Well, you said that, and then I looked at the footage and I saw the news reports and I saw up close of that metal pole. Yeah, it It is, it was a, it's a solid metal rod coming out, which I would think if I was doing the ram raiding that that thing would just pop straight out as soon as you, you just hit it, it'd just fly. But that thing was so solid and actually took the back of the car.

Josh: Yeah, well, so I was filming, I straight away, my first thing to always do is to grab my phone.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a good move.

Josh: And so I grabbed my phone and I was zooming in, I was getting footage of the whole thing and they were swearing at each other and one of them just started bolting and like running off.

Tommy: Did they say go, go, go?

Josh: No, no, it's just like it's on a pole, it's on it. Like that, I think they were trying to fix the situation at first.

Tommy: 100% a stolen van and I bet you they found the, the hi-vis in the van and thought, oh, let's whack this on.

Josh: Maybe.

Tommy: Definitely.

Josh: And so anyway, the frustrating bit was that in that moment I was telling Bri to call the police and she didn't call the police. So I feel like it's slightly irresponsible of me filming a crime.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And not calling. But then I went out and I called 000, which is the number here in Australia for emergency services, and they put you through first. They say police, fire, or ambulance. I say police. I've done this, like, I've called, I've called emergency services probably half a dozen times.

Tommy: You're that guy.

Josh: Yeah, always something on the phone, always see something. Saw some kids start a bushfire once.

Tommy: Really?

Josh: A whole park went up in flames. And anyway, so I did that, said police, and then they put you through to the police unit. The thing was it was ringing for so long, it was ringing for about a minute.

Tommy: So what time?

Josh: It's 4:30 in the morning. What are they doing? Well, what they're saying is like, so the person who transfers you through, they're staying on the phone until you have the call through. And so they just say that, like, ringing, and they're like, just please hold on the line. That's a ring. And it's like, please hold on the line. And then I'm literally like, start having a conversation. I say, does it normally take this long to connect?

Tommy: What'd she say?

Josh: She said, just repeat it, just please stay on the line. Yeah. And so anyway, uh, I got through. I'm terrible with exact directions, but I could hear, because I was out the balcony at this point, the people above us had called the police. Ah, okay. And so anyway, but it was, it was pretty exciting. And I watched, I then, we could see everything from our bedroom. So I spent from 4:30 until 7 AM on my side getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. It must happen every night.

Tommy: You've got no, you've got no, no net.

Josh: Yeah, get the net for filming.

Tommy: Get the net.

Josh: Don't get a net, like a net will get in the way of filming.

Tommy: Go on the balcony.

Josh: But the balcony, I felt like I was too exposed.

Tommy: No, you're high up.

Josh: Should I have—

Tommy: I mean, what you're exposed is going on the news and saying that your name's Josh Jansen, you witnessed this crime, and I put the video forward. Well, that's like saying I'm a rat.

Josh: Well, so that wasn't, that wasn't what was going to happen. So what— so I watched everything. And so for people who have just, uh, joined the show, haven't listened to probably the first 100 episodes, I spoke about how when I was at an apartment My last apartment, there was a fire at the next door's apartment, which was more probably way more serious because it's immediate danger to yourself.

Tommy: Like, the fucking fire, the house is on fire, the apartment was on fire next door.

Josh: And so I did a whole video. I started as soon as I heard the guy say, everyone get out, there's a fire. I pressed record on the iPhone. I've got footage of me running out of the apartment and seeing all the flames and stuff.

Tommy: You saw, uh, it's from the outside, flames from the outside.

Josh: Those flames, those flames from inside were literally next door. It was like a door away, right?

Tommy: Amazing that it didn't ruin the wall.

Josh: Well, so that's what I thought, because annoyingly, like, the— where the fire was, yeah, I was— the thing, I didn't bring any of my hard drives or anything. The only thing I remembered was like my phone, like, to record all for content, but only for the content for now, not for all the old stuff. And so they, um, Yeah, when I ran out, I saw the flame was basically next to our bedroom. And so I was like, oh, we're done. Because the thing is that not only was it next to our wall, the wall which the fire was on, like coming up against, Bree had this like stack of her perfume, like ending all these fucking small bottles. I was like, this is the perfect explosive device. She's got like 14, fucking bottles of perfume. She's since got rid of them all. But I was worried. But surprisingly, between all of us, I was super surprised the flames didn't damage it at all.

Tommy: Did it have those sprinklers? Sprinklers? Did they, they went off?

Josh: So they went off in their apartment, so flooded our apartment. So they had to do all carpet sort of thing. But the problem was that I put the video online and Bri had this big event that she was running for her work. And I just called her, just like, I don't know if it was the right thing to do, but I just called her. I was like, the whole building's on fire. I've made it out, but the whole building— this is just before she's like running the biggest event that she's ever done.

Tommy: I mean, there is something about witnessing these things that is mildly entertaining. It's like when the house next door blew, um, caught on fire, and then I was fighting— very similar, but I was directing Amy to call the police, and while I was filming, I did the exact same thing. Yeah, but I actually called, uh, I think she did, but everyone else had called. Like, it was— the thing is, a lot of things are being seen by other people. If you wake up, yeah, high chance you're not the only one that has seen it.

Josh: But the thing is, when, when that happened, when the fire happened at my last apartment, yeah, I fell into the trap of engaging with the news. I just started my business, Full Stack Films, and I saw it as an opportunity where I'm like I was at the stage of like guerrilla marketing, here we go. And so they're like, can we speak to you? Like, so I saw I was on the balcony and they were like, oh, do you want to come down and chat? And so I spoke, but I led everything with, yeah, I've just started freelancing with my business, Full Stack Films. And I heard this explosion and obviously they just cut out all the—

Tommy: I mean, the only way you kind of like— you actually approach it with this, you, you was giving a serious account. Yeah, I think next time, because you are the guy that will go to the media or be on, but you'll get taken in somehow, you end up—

Josh: okay, I'll tell you my account where it went wrong last time at the other— at the fire, apartment fire, was that they asked me to come upstairs. They— sorry, they asked if they could come upstairs because they didn't have access, right? I was like, yeah, sure, you can get some shots. And so they were— they set up the sticks, the tripod, out on the balcony, and that was fine. And then they said, hey Josh, do you mind if you just come onto the balcony and just sort of look over. And it was a horrendous idea because what they were doing, which I didn't realise really until they left, was it was a reenactment. And so there's footage. And so I was also—

Tommy: You conned him into a reenactment.

Josh: Yeah, and I was working from home, so I had the most horrendous neckbeard.

Tommy: You, you— I think you should know, you're a video person, you make them for a living.

Josh: But I've— but I said—

Mason: I've got you.

Josh: I know, but I set the rule. I was like— so I spoke to to, uh, when this ram raid happened. Uh, so after I spoke to Triple Zero, I then called the local Collingwood police station and said, hey, I've got this footage. And they weren't really that interested. Yeah, I was like, okay, whatever. So that was all done. They took my details. And then I was getting ready in the morning and there was all the news. I was watching every news, uh, channel coming out and getting, you know, Channel 9, Channel 10, Channel 7.

Tommy: From the balcony you could see the balcony.

Josh: I could see all that sort of thing, right? And so that was all fine. I wasn't engaging at all. I was like, man, if only they knew I had this footage. And I was walking, I decided to go to work, and normally I walk on the back streets, yeah, and this was on a main road in Smith Street.

Tommy: Well, you like to avoid any close contact with other humans. Yeah, morning time is a bit like that.

Josh: And so this was the first time where I was like, oh, you know what, I'll just, I'll walk past and if there's some police there, I'll just show— and if I feel like the vibe's right, I'll just show them the footage. But I'm like, this isn't, this isn't me seeking attention. I've just— I, if this is going to be helpful, I want to be helpful. Yeah. And so I was walking and I saw a young police officer. I said, hey, I'll just say no. I said, quiet. I said, yeah, I'm just, I'm just up the apartment just up there. And I actually got footage. Yes, you got footage? I was like, yeah. And he's like, oh, can I have a look? He's like, oh wow. He's like, he turns to me, he goes, now Channel 10 News is just there and they're gonna love this. Guys, this guy, yeah, he calls him over. He goes, ah, this guy's got some actual footage of the ram raid. And then two journos quickly walk over like, oh really, can we see? And I'm showing it and then it goes out of focus. The police officer had a huge amount of investment, right? You know when you show someone something on YouTube and it's not— and it's a funny video, but it's not funny in a certain bit.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: So you always say, oh, it's not funny in this bit.

Tommy: I'll just forward a little bit.

Josh: Yeah. And so I'd already showed the police officer the video. And so I'm showing them the video, video. And in the video there's a bit where it goes blurry for a second.

Tommy: Zoom in on these fucking phones.

Josh: And the—

Tommy: loses it.

Josh: It blurred for a bit.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: But I just love how invested the police officer was in. Because he goes, oh no, don't worry, it refocuses. He's saying this to the journos as it's all happening, right? And they're like, oh, could you AirDrop us that footage? I was like, oh yeah, okay. And they're like, actually, do you mind, do you mind if we get you on camera? Yeah, I was like, oh, I guess it doesn't, doesn't hurt. And so before you know it, I had two cameras and two microphones and they're asking me all these questions.

Tommy: I think where, if you want these, I mean, it was great. It was awesome.

Josh: Did you watch me on Channel 10?

Tommy: I don't have a TV, but I saw what you posted, what we shared, and what your mum shared. Oh shit, I want to say I haven't seen it.

Josh: So mum said, oh, the 6 PM, they really went to town.

Tommy: The, um, a few things I worried about as soon as I heard that you were— you'd done a bit of news coverage. These dudes also have televisions, and now they know what apartment building you live in and what your full name is. Yeah, this is the thing.

Josh: I—

Tommy: and Mr. Nice Guy and I Here's the thing, criminals, dude, they're fucking—

Josh: don't give them any ideas.

Tommy: They're tweaked. No, but I don't, I don't know if I would—

Josh: Tommy Jackets and Kilda—

Tommy: put my name onto any eyewitness. You can find me, but I don't know if I'd give my name on any eyewitness. Like, I'd give over the footage. Absolutely.

Josh: You know what, I'm speaking direct. If you're watching me, if these are these— no, listen here, I'm serious.

Tommy: He's taking us down as well, Mr. 97.

Josh: 25 easy straight. Come to the office. I'd prefer to actually come because I'll have to fucking do the bashing.

Tommy: Tommy Jack, I will have to do the bashing.

Josh: Come at us. I'm serious.

Tommy: Come at me.

Josh: You did the wrong thing.

Tommy: I agree, the wrong thing, but it's like people who do that kind of shit— a tweet. This is where I— but they're running honestly. I was honestly like, oh fuck, that's a bit annoying that they, that they know these details. The thing is, criminals are fucked.

Josh: I was like the main witness in the whole story. They used my footage and all that sort of thing. And so the one thing is that like Bree wanted to go to, we're looking for, I'm trying to find a slimline bag, you know, at the moment for my laptop and stuff. And Bree said, let's go to Macpac, which was the place where it happened. 'Cause they were open. I said, I don't want to, because I know that all the Macpac employees will know, have definitely seen the footage, right? So I'm the man.

Tommy: It still blows me away how many people watch television. Like I got a message from someone that I don't speak too much, was like, "Your mate from work is on the TV." Yep. "Can you please next time try and be a bit outrageous? Like bring some quirk, like get real weird with it." I was literally thinking that. 'Cause otherwise it's just you just like, "Yeah, I saw this." Well, 'cause I didn't want it to be silly.

Josh: I was like, "I want it—" No, but why not? Yeah. Well, 'cause it was, and that's why my voice hurt. 'Cause always what happens is after that whole thing, you have all these ideas.

Tommy: It's, yeah, it's very heated, like live, it's like—

Josh: Could we do it again now? Like I'll show you what I would have done. So you ask, you ask me or whatever, and I'll be the witness.

Tommy: Hello, Josh, is it? Yeah. Yeah, mate, can you tell us a little bit about what happened as soon as you saw the incident?

Josh: Yeah, so I just heard a bang and then a— I thought that there would be— No, it was a ute. And so I thought the gear— I always laugh at the guy who does— did the barking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I thought that I would do this.

Tommy: We're out of character now. We're out of— he's not. And so that's what I was— that would have been good, sound of the car and then a bit of a reenactment of the sound of the dude. Oh, let's go!

Josh: Come on! Yeah, yeah, they really fucked up. And so the thing was that I definitely felt like after you said, oh, you got to be careful, or whatever, I definitely had that little feeling of like I'm already a little bit paranoid with stuff.

Tommy: Yeah, but I genuinely feel that way. Like, I know you don't want to hear it, but it is like if you see some real bad crime and you put your hand up, it is going to go public. Like, like, there is—

Josh: think about like, what about all the other— think about if you were going after like Donald Trump or any like big people at the moment. It feels very low level, this stuff. But I did—

Tommy: I said junkies, like, I don't think that they were drug addicts. Dude, what are they going to get from a fucking clothes store? They're going to break in, steal $400? It was silly. $4,000? It's not that much. You're going to resell it. There's a part that they actually have to then—

Josh: hey, would you— they're in the wholesale business.

Tommy: It's ridiculous. Yeah, I think you'll be fine for this one because they'll probably get away with it. They probably won't find these people.

Josh: Yeah, well, I did, but me trying to be low-key is the worst. Like, I'm so bad at it. And Bri— because I said—

Tommy: what do you mean low-key is in?

Josh: Well, I said, like I said to Bri, I'm just like inevitably, like I said, I'm like, ah, the one annoying thing is that people in the apartment block will watch the news and then they'll know Josh is like the narc. We had a comment on Instagram where someone said narc. Yeah.

Tommy: Or saying rat. Rat, yeah. So basically like saying that you're ratting on them. And so I think they should be ratted on. It's just about putting your name to the rat.

Josh: And so I was just like, I wonder, like I'm I'm probably seen as this attention seeker or whatever. But anyway, I just, for whatever reason, I lean into these things. I was in the lift and we see, we meet our next door neighbour for the first time.

Tommy: Yeah, like you're right next door. Yeah.

Josh: And so I just can't help— I actually, it's almost an out-of-body experience where I see myself.

Tommy: I go, please tell me you opened the video and like, I didn't hang it.

Josh: I didn't have the video, but what I said was, I was like 'Oh, did you get woken up by the ram raid?' And they're like, 'Oh no, heard about it.' I was like, 'Yeah, I was on the news about it.' And Breeze just— Breeze, eye rolling, just like, 'You fucking say this thing.' He goes, 'Oh, I'd love to see that.' I was like, 'Yeah.' I said, 'It was real punter mentality, but anyway, see you later.' Please tell me you spoke like that as well.

Tommy: Yeah, sounding like you had too many rums. Yeah, it was a little bit There is something about you where you are so aware and then so unaware, but maybe you're aware in the moments where you're coming across unaware. It's like this— the out-of-body is you deciding to lose awareness.

Josh: Yeah, well, in a moment, what's the— it's definitely a little bit of that.

Tommy: The guy on the balcony doing the reenactment.

Josh: Yeah, I didn't have— get to do any reenactments. That would have been funny, but The other thing I've noticed that I did this morning, I don't know if you ever do this, I thought it was a little bit tweaked, so I thought I'd bring it up just to find out.

Tommy: Drinking out of my thermos?

Josh: No, not your thermos, but mine at the time. You can actually, you guys can play as my psychologist until we find me one.

Tommy: Mr. 97 doesn't answer phone calls, for fuck's sakes.

Josh: Yeah, well, do you think psychologists would? Yeah, I call a psychologist, they'd answer like, hey Josh, how you feeling?

Tommy: Well, if you had a time assigned to them. I'm just talking on, in general, I'm saying Mr.

Josh: 97 doesn't answer phone calls. You know, phone, do you, can you do psychology appointments through the phone? Lifeline. Oh, those types of ones. Okay, well, no, so I was, um, I realised that this is maybe a little bit tweaked. This morning there's two lifts, a lot of lift chat today, two lifts which are elevators if you're outside of, if you're in the US, and so we, there's two lifts that could either go up or down, you know, as lifts do. And so I press the 1 down button to be able to go down the lift, and it takes a while. It doesn't show you which lift to get into until the lift arrives, and then the arrow of the correct one. And so I walked over to one lift and I said to myself, if it's this lift, I'm gonna have a good day. If it's not, it's gonna be a shit day. Yeah, luckily, luckily it, it was that lift.

Tommy: Yeah, but I was just like, fuck, no, I've played little, I've played little games like that. It can— it's just, I think there's— I don't think you're like— there's some people that take this to excess.

Josh: Do you say like, oh, if I don't cross— if I can cross the road before it goes red, it's going to be a great day?

Tommy: Yeah, I've done little things like that. If I get lights The problem is when you start affirming the thought. So if you get the right lift, so it means the good day has always ended up on this lift, and then you— the game's off the table and all you think is this lift means good day. Yeah, so I can't get into that lift, and then you actually stop riding that fucking lift because you can only ride the left one. Yeah, and then yeah, you have to take the stairs when that's broken, but then what does that mean?

Josh: It's all luck. What is it?

Tommy: Well, we're giving it meaning, right?

Josh: Talking about luck, I got a call from my brother Jake over the weekend.

Tommy: Is that lucky to get a call from Jake?

Josh: Well, he got very lucky. Did he? Because, uh, he went to a pub and they had, um, betting. I bet on things. What do you mean? Like a TAB, I guess.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Yeah, like a sports bet sort of thing. And it was— I didn't know you could bet on dogs. I thought dogs, that was sort of— no, um, greyhounds. I thought greyhounds, that was in certain states maybe, because you know how like every person has a fucking greyhound now? Yeah, because they're all rescued from— yeah, because they stopped the industry, I think, in certain parts.

Mason: No, no, no.

Josh: Or in some parts anyway. I don't know if that's true. So can you look it up? '97, around the greyhound racing. But anyway, uh, I got a call, a voicemail from Jake. There was a dog called Go 97. Go 97. And so Jake's like, oh, Mr. 97, this is a sign. I'm going to put $10 down on Go 97.

Tommy: That's generous. 10 bucks. What did he win?

Josh: $110. Far out. Yeah, I thought it was quite good.

Tommy: 97, the lucky number.

Josh: I thought so. Have you got any word on the greyhound stuff?

Mason: Yeah, a ban's coming in in ACT.

Josh: Okay, but not Victoria. Okay, so just so Canberra.

Tommy: Yeah, how much dog racing is going on in Canberra? Maybe a lot. I mean, there's so much noise around it being cruel. I've been to some of the races in Shepparton. It's a big one, the trots. Like, I'm just not into it. Well, you could just— bogan. I think it is.

Josh: But that news, the stuff that I did within the news, very bogan. That's very bogan. But it also feels like, how many times can that happen again in my life? How many? Like, it seems every 3 years.

Tommy: Why have I been driving down the road road and seen a fucking hot air balloon coming down onto Main Street? Why is the house burnt down next to me and I've happened to capture it?

Josh: Are you saying you're special?

Tommy: No, I'm saying I look for the things. I think you look for them too. You're looking for them. I think you attract— I, I think you attract this stuff. Mr. 97, what have you had happen to you, mate? Uh, anything?

Josh: Nothing. No, I'm not looking for it. Yeah, that's what Tommy's saying.

Tommy: He had 5 opportunities where the phone rang and it could have been something.

Josh: But what I'm saying is using all of the power of the secret on shit to happen for the news.

Tommy: I get it. So situational things like the house burning down next to me, the place next to you. The lift. Turning down. But I'm saying like, I think there is a trait in humans that want to sort of, they're looking for opportunities. Like I've found some weird shit. Like think about all the things I've made videos about. It's like, I'm looking, my filter is, what are all these people doing? Like the amount of stuff I notice that Amy doesn't. She's not looking.

Josh: If I see, yeah, if I see police lights and it's close by, we're on it, bro. Head over. There was like a big— it looked like sort of like a terrorist response sort of thing in this city in Christmas, around Christmas time. And I just like— you're in there? No, I just like parked my car and just watched.

Tommy: We saw a 4-car pileup this morning because we're coming up on Punt Road. Must have just happened and the traffic was really bad. But as soon as we get past it, Amy made a point that I was just like creeping past because I'm just like just checking it out. Yeah, ah, the person at the back has really gone hard into that. The third car is the worst. I'm just taking— getting a little, uh, I'm just wrapping some information around what had happened, then I zoom off. Yeah, but I think, yeah, you and I definitely are sort of— I'm waiting around to see, see if the fight actually happens from afar.

Josh: Yeah, I thought I was going to go real dark. What, any fatalities?

Tommy: No, I was going to say how many bodies we deal with. Junkie actually Yeah, stabbed.

Josh: So that's why I like, um, Victoria Street in, uh, Collingwood. The corner of Victoria and Lennox. A lot of fights and stuff happening. Yeah, and I feel like it's never going to be like— it's always amongst the, you know, the community there.

Tommy: They're all fighting. Yeah, we are in an out-there suburb. That's good. But welcome to, uh, welcome to Collingwood, to the suburb. Yeah, welcome to Collingwood, bro.

Josh: Why were you not saying—

Tommy: I was gonna say, but then I'm like We work here, everyone knows, everyone knows, you know, Mr. Josh Danson.

Josh: I don't know, I think I said it to you off air. I said, I said, I've decided that when I move I'm not going to tell anyone.

Tommy: That's right, next minute he's on Channel 10.

Josh: I like the idea of like, you know, just being able to live a quiet life, not telling anyone the suburb. And I've, as 97 would say, I've cooked it. Do you think you've cooked it?

Tommy: Yeah, God, I saw, so just quickly, I won't go read this whole note, but I saw a guy on Facebook who I used to work with at the radio station. He's an actor and he does— and when I say actor, like ads, and he's been in a few TV shows. Corporate. Yeah, a few corporate, like a bank ad. Great. Where he's like, yeah, going around putting the card. Anyway, he's posted this thing and it says, my first ever fan letter, and somehow the guy finds my home address and sent it to me. It is the weirdest letter. I'll just show you, Josh. I'm not going to put it up because I want to keep his privacy, but the dude has written this full-page letter and at the bottom got a photo of him and put his full name and said, can you please sign here? I think that's a good—

Josh: I don't think that's creepy. I reckon that's someone entrepreneurial who thinks this guy is going to be someone.

Tommy: No, dude, this guy's creepy. How do you— if you get a piece of mail to your home address and you're you haven't put your thing out there for people to be sending, like we do with the PO Box 400 Abbotsford, send us, you can send it to there. But if someone sent it there, it would make sense. If someone sent it to your home letterbox, and I'll just read you the start of the letter. His name's Arthur. Dear Arthur, I'm writing this letter, which I'll keep brief as I appreciate that your time is precious. I'm writing to— Precious, yeah. I'm writing to respectfully request an autograph from you. You. Firstly, firstly, please forgive my intrusiveness if this address is not the most appropriate to send a request like this. If you're stating that it's inappropriate, like if you're going, maybe it's inappropriate, let me know, you're— it's been very inappropriate. If you can find the time to personally autograph the homemade fan card sent with this letter, I would be extremely grateful. In case you were wondering, I obtained your address through the electoral rolls and do not on-share any details. So he's fully— he's been transparent about the fact that this is completely creepy.

Josh: What does the electoral rolls mean?

Tommy: So that means the electoral rolls, I think you can see where someone is, like where someone lives. So I, I'm— so if you lived out in the burbs and then moved to Collingwood but never changed your address, you'd be on the electoral rolls out.

Josh: But they would give suburb, it wouldn't give full address.

Tommy: The guys found full address. Interesting. So, but that was creepy. Yeah, there's some crazy—

Josh: I get that. But PO Box, yeah, yeah, PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067, if you want to send us anything creepy. Well, because I just, I cheque it every fucking week. Yeah, nothing. And the renewals that I've got to pay it, uh, remind— other thing I need to pay, what, ambulance cover.

Tommy: You've mentioned that. We, you have to—

Josh: we'll do that today. If you've got—

Tommy: you'll do that today. I don't need to pay your ambulance cover.

Josh: If you've got, uh, got to pay your ambulance cover, you should You know Easter is coming up? Yes. That's also the time to change your, um, to cheque your batteries in your smoke detectors. Really?

Tommy: Where's that? Oh, because you worked at the fire brigade. Yeah, it's a big—

Josh: they use that April around Easter as a just a time. I think they even get maybe the Energizer Bunny involved. Yeah. There's actually a difference between smoke detectors and smoke alarms. What's the difference? I can't remember which is which.

Tommy: One detects and one alarms. Yeah, so the detector should alarm you as well once the smoke arrives.

Josh: I think the— I think detector might— smoke— 97, can you look it up, please? I have a feeling that the— this— for some reason I feel like the smoke alarm is actually, um, the proper ones that are used commercially. Okay. And smoke detector is what we would have in a—

Tommy: like, I would have one in my house. Yeah. Smoke detector.

Josh: Here we go, 97.

Tommy: Have you had— you find it, mate?

Mason: Yeah, it says smoke alarms are multiple station smoke sensing devices around the home. So that sounds like they connect together, whereas the smoke detectors are self-contained. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, just like they're single units. I think, I think it's like that.

Josh: Yeah. So here, the other thing is a smoke detector is strictly a sensing device only which senses the products of combustion smoke and sends a signal to a building's fire alarm system to activate an audible—

Tommy: that would be your building would have one of those—

Josh: and sometimes visual warning or alarm. Smoke detectors must be connected to a building's fire alarm system and are not a standalone unit. Yeah, so you—

Tommy: what would you have in your sort of newer complex? No idea. It'd be the one connected to the full system that would tell everyone to get out.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh well, that was good.

Tommy: Yeah, it's the Daily Talk Show.

Josh: I've learned something. hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email. Admin-wise, we need to, um, we need to get to the 3D Dill and focus on the— get him here. Yeah, getting all that work.

Tommy: Get 3D Dill down under. Tomorrow we've got Craig Harper on the show. We're doing a live recording of that. It's gonna be fun talking about his brand new book, 20 Questions for Humans.

Josh: We'll see you tomorrow, guys.

Tommy: See you guys.