Gold Diggers

Tommy: Wait a minute! Frostface! The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Janson and Tommy Janson.

Josh: Daily Talk Show episode 222.

Tommy: What is happening, hump day?

Josh: Yeah, Wednesday, get around it, guys. Yeah, let's talk about the weather yesterday. In Melbourne.

Tommy: It's fucked. Yeah, it's pouring rain, man. I tell you what, you could easily just go, oh, this is annoying for my life. Driving home would be complicated. And then I'm driving down Punt Road, and on— and what I appreciate about Victoria is they're creating a lot of, a lot of these digital signs that will give you updates about what's coming up. So like, on Nepean Highway now, it's like 10 minutes to Southland or 15 minutes to, you know, Moorabbin or whatever it is.

Josh: Or get off your phone. Are they using them for that as well?

Tommy: Nah, these are just like specific signs for how long it's going to take you to travel to a certain destination based on traffic. And so there was one on Punt Road turned on yesterday and it said Punt Road closed at Toorak Road. And if you're from Melbourne or you've ever been to Melbourne and been in traffic on Punt Road, it's horrible. So it's bad. Just when it's okay on the roads, like there's no crash. And then I saw that, I called my wife and I said, can you please Google for me? I was doing the responsible thing. Can you Google Punt Road closure, Toorak Road? And she said, literally as I'm on the phone, yeah, she said, oh, a woman's been hit by, a cyclist has been hit by a truck.

Josh: Yeah. And do you know anything more? Like when it's so close, you do straight away think about like all the friends, you know, that are cyclists.

Tommy: 100%. And my mom even called me, she's like, I just wanted to cheque you're all right. She doesn't do that much, but she'd heard that there was a huge crash in the city based around this weather. So my point was I had a moment where I'm like, traffic is not a fucking issue. I can get my son and my wife, they're healthy, someone's died.

Josh: How do you try and turn that on all the time?

Tommy: I know, it's—

Josh: 'Cause we went to a, we were filming at a facility last week, which was like designed for people people who have disabilities, they're on the spectrum, autism, Down syndrome, you know, um, childbirth, like, um, defects, defects at childbirth.

Tommy: Some serious— like, I tell you right now, that, that was such an interesting experience for me as someone who has had a child. Yeah, I'm a great dad. I've had one baby. And just, I said to one of the carers there, firstly, The people that work at these places, fuck me, like such good humans. And I said to this, I said to the one, like all kind of like hardened. And I had a realisation being at a place like this where I've seen people who have had children that are quite difficult or have had mental challenges like autism. And the parents have seemed quite like, not, what they've come across as is rude, or like they don't put up with the stuff from the kid, or they're just a bit angry. And I had a realisation being at these places where I gained a lot of empathy for the parents that are looking after these kids. And I said this to the carer, and she said, yeah, it's so interesting as a carer, some of the other carers see how I'm treating the person that I'm assigned to, and sometimes they, from the outside, can say, oh, you're being a bit mean. They're not being mean, and this woman was definitely no mean bone in her body, but they have to be firm.

Josh: They have to be direct.

Tommy: Direct. And so what that, from the outside, when you have— don't have a child like this, it can seem like that. So that was one of my learnings from going to a place like that. And man, as a dad, it's like, far out, it's such a hard time that these parents go through.

Josh: We just— I think that you straight away realise how good you have it, but not only how good you have it, how it is just a roll of the dice. Every day is a roll of the dice. It wasn't just people who had that at birth. There are situations where it's like someone wakes up one day, has a brain haemorrhage or whatever, and all of a sudden has to have support of, you know, a facility or whatever, because they can't just hang out normally during the day.

Tommy: Yeah, it's full on. I mean, you never know when your time's up. Yeah, it's such a weird thing because it's— you get up and you go through the normal process, but maybe it does take the reflection and sometimes going to that dark place of thinking about the reality for yourself. Yeah, to snap you back out. How— your question was, how do you get there consistently?

Josh: How do you do it? Do you have to go, you know, Gary Vaynerchuk, who's the sort of chest pumping, uh, thumping, chest thumping, chief pumper.

Tommy: He's a real chief pumper, isn't he?

Josh: He, yeah, he's got VaynerMedia, came from Wine Library. He's a— you would probably have seen him on social media if you don't know who Gary Vee is, but he's always talking about the hustle and shit like that. But he talks about what he thinks about when he's feeling sort of down about shit and not feeling good about work. He's like, What happened if all my family died tomorrow?

Tommy: Yeah, nothing would matter.

Josh: Yeah, like your business doesn't matter, which is a full-on, uh, thought to have to sort of enter into.

Tommy: I don't know, I mean, so I'm trying to look at a positive in not living with that thinking every minute of every day. Yeah, I'm trying to look at the positive in getting back in to survive in this sort of world that we're in and this fast-paced and sort of, you know, everyone's trying to climb or trying to progress in some place. And we're all— we all enjoy a struggle in some respects. Um, it's what life is in some ways. I'm not looking at that as a negative though. I just think it's like it gives it sometimes purpose when you're trying to achieve more. But if you were to— I don't know if I'd do shit if I was not constantly thinking about that. I fucking— I can't be bothered. Writing back to that client or dealing with that hard situation 'cause my family, you know? So I don't mind coming in and out of it, but there's always, I don't think there's a negative in trying to bring more of it into life.

Josh: And I think even on the larger scale, when watching the news and seeing all these sort of doomsday things, especially when all the North Korea shit was really going down, like maybe a year and a half ago, I was really thinking about like, man, it's all gonna be all right. Like something's gonna happen one day and it's all gonna be over. And when you go down that thought, it can be very productive, but it also can be a bit fucked up as well.

Tommy: You said to me today, and I was surprised by your thinking. You said, what does this all mean if we're in a simulation? And I was like, oh fuck, you got me excited. I'm like, yes.

Josh: It's Conspiracy Jimmy talk.

Tommy: You're trying to take over Conspiracy Jimmy's thinking. But what you basically were talking about was The Matrix, and we have to watch The Matrix.

Josh: Yeah, because you criticise me because I haven't seen the film.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I think it's an old-school film. It's one of the greats, and it's like, it is a— I don't know if it was progressive for its times, 20-something years ago, but the, the thinking behind the movie is this simulation, this simulated world where on the other side is essentially humans, you know, that haven't connected in. Or if you get out, you are basically one of the people that was inside the simulation. And so there's— I just like that you're even thinking about that because, because like when shit goes wrong in this world, and if it was a simulation, what does it mean?

Josh: Yeah, well, I was even talking about it, like people who have hardship, it's It's like, what is the— how does this happen within the simulation? Is it code gone bad?

Tommy: All we could think of was someone outsourced the code somewhere on the other side in the real world to some, you know, person that has no idea about code.

Josh: And that they fucked it.

Tommy: They code your thumb.

Josh: My toe. I've got a toe thumb, everyone.

Tommy: There's definitely slight different code to your thumb and my thumb.

Josh: That's genetics. Yeah. So you got a— we got a Reddit comment which I thought was good.

Tommy: Yeah, so, uh, I think this is from Santiago, who, um, has some stickers on the way to him right now. Yeah, so shout out to Santiago. He said, uh, so yesterday's episode 221, it was called It's All About Status, and we delved deep into it.

Josh: Have a listen. I can't say I appreciate that you, um, actively put it up on Reddit. Reddit's back.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I mean, there's a post like a day or so before that and other people have been commenting on that.

Josh: But so there's things happening but not necessarily us.

Tommy: Yeah, but we, we're reading them and I'm getting back to some. But, um, Santiago, thank you for reaching out, uh, in response to yesterday's episode. He said, just talk to a friend who is back home about the status thing and how people see her is affecting her ability to make new friends. We graduated from one of the top private universities in Argentina And then she landed a job at Google there. She's now feeling that she can't truly connect to people because there's a misconception that she's some kind of genius or she's rich and she wouldn't want to hang out with them. So weird how perceptions work. So right now she's holding back on talking about her background or work to be more approachable at first— at work, sorry. It's crazy. So she's fully just like changing her storey or leaving bits out.

Josh: I reckon it'd be really hard, say being super rich and trying to date. Wouldn't that be impossible? Because you'd be thinking about everyone is, is this person into me because of me? Yeah. Or because I've got a bunch of cash?

Tommy: Oh, definitely. And I mean, I'm guilty of seeing a young attractive woman an old dude who's got a bunch of cash. What do you think? Like, I, I— there's one relationship that I know of, and I met her quite a while ago.

Josh: She's like, this is juicy, come on, supermodel.

Tommy: And she's going out with— she's going out with this old dude. And I've actually partied with the old dude in LA, and he's got a heap of cash, and he was looking after us that much. And one of the storeys he did tell me was he was pissed and he's like, ah, mate, I, um, I had a car and, uh, here in LA and I got into it and I was fucking— I, I was so pissed and I put into drive, or what I thought was drive, and I put it into reverse and just fucking slammed into the car behind me. And then the cops pulled over and they don't breatho you over there like in Australia.

Josh: Do they do the line, that line?

Tommy: Yeah, they do some sort of test.

Josh: What's that called?

Tommy: The sobriety test or something.

Josh: Yeah, that's right.

Tommy: Anyway, they let him off, but that was his storey he told me. And I think it had something to do with him mentioning something about who he was.

Josh: But so what you're saying though is you think this chick is with him for money?

Tommy: It was my initial thought based on, I guess it's looking at how she looks and how old she is, like 20 fucking 3 or something, and he was like late, like mid-50s. But in fairness, I've watched, and he's a really charismatic dude, really sort of, he was—

Josh: He's a bit sexy. I definitely say he could be a bit sexy.

Tommy: He's definitely not a good-looking bloke. He has not got that going for him.

Josh: Maybe like it could money rub off on you and be— Oh, like this bloke isn't sexy, but oh, if he's, do we allow, and I guess this is probably part of the, maybe it's a bit sexist, like old dudes, like if they've got a bit of a gut and they've like, but if they're got a bit of time.

Tommy: You know this guy you're describing him.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: No, but he's a client of mine. Okay, so he's charismatic, he's engaging when you talk to him, just doesn't have the other stuff going for him. And not even the most charismatic dude. What I will say though is I was friends with her on Facebook and him on Facebook. And I saw them together and they've been together for ages and they seem really happy. And so on that side, and they've just had a kid. And so it's like, fuck, I am one to judge. And I think it's probably quite natural to look from the outside and think that.

Josh: But what I am curious about is like what level they're even thinking about it. So that girl, like, is she thinking, I like this life, this is the life that I want and I enjoy his company and I'm enjoying and I love him versus I guess maybe is the default thinking that this chick is eventually going to divorce this guy and take him for all his money?

Tommy: It would be a big neg if you were to commit to that. And that's where I, I give her the benefit of the doubt. I actually sort of look at my own—

Josh: judge Tommy.

Tommy: No, but I look at— no, yeah, that's why I stopped. I look at my own thinking and think, fuck, maybe I am totally wrong. Maybe I've got it totally wrong based on movies I've watched and seeing this play out and gold diggers this and gold diggers that. Maybe she initially, maybe initially it was the lifestyle, the money, her getting watches and shit.

Josh: That's what's good about Bree and Amy. We know that they're definitely not after our cash, right? There's better options. There's finance industries or something like that rather than the artist.

Tommy: I would struggle being with someone that there was another agenda. Like, I had some sort of—

Josh: But do you think that they actively know? Like, the idea of a hidden— the way you positioned it, it's as if you— like, I would struggle to be with someone with a hidden agenda. I think everyone would struggle with someone who, if they had a hidden agenda. But I wonder if it is— no. Yeah, I mean, that's the fucking point of the hidden bit. If it's a hidden agenda, you don't know there's an agenda. So it's a bit hard to say. I mean, I would hate— like, I think anyone would.

Tommy: Maybe you're so in it, you're just like, nah, I didn't see it coming. Because there's a lot of dudes that have done this, and then, you know, if you were to look from the outside, they've had all their money taken from them. Serves them right. They probably just delved into it, but they probably didn't think about it. You get wrapped up in the situation.

Josh: I think some dudes probably like it too, isn't there? A whole industry of chicks on Instagram just taking cash from dudes, just like, just because they're like, hey, if you want to be my sugar daddy, like there's a sugar daddy website, isn't that?

Tommy: That is a thing.

Josh: Who's that old dude?

Tommy: Um, uh, who? Jeffrey Edelstein?

Josh: Yeah, is he alive still?

Tommy: Yeah, yeah, he's all right, he's alive.

Josh: Because he's like this eccentric, um, this is all allegedly because I don't know anything about him.

Tommy: It's not alleged that he's eccentric, he's eccentric.

Josh: But he's like, was he a surgeon or a dentist or something? Um, oh, I think he—

Tommy: hang on, I'm pretty sure he was behind bulk billing.

Josh: Really?

Tommy: Hang on, Geoffrey—

Josh: we don't have Mr. 97 here.

Tommy: Geoffrey Edelston, bulk—

Josh: how can you be— so bulk billing for people outside of Australia, can you describe what bulk billing is?

Tommy: Um, here we go, hang on. Um, so bulk billing, so for instance, uh, I don't have a heap of money in my bank account and it costs a lot to go to a private doctor to just say, "This is my child. Is he sick? No, he's not sick. $120, please." So, it's a MediBank or, sorry, Medicare.

Josh: So, Medicare is like a government-run agency within Australia.

Tommy: Yeah, which you can use.

Josh: Every Australian has it, don't they?

Tommy: Every Australian can get. You need to be an Australian citizen, I think, to get it. But Jesus, this photo of Geoffrey back in.

Josh: It's public. So, it's like public health.

Tommy: It's almost public health.

Josh: Is it? We don't know anything.

Tommy: You basically, you get free doctor's appointments and checkups.

Josh: Why?

Tommy: Through the bulk billing. So, someone pays for it, it's just not you. And so, it's part of your Medicare.

Josh: Do you reckon I could have— So, about 7 years or 6 years ago, I had an ingrown toenail and got a guy to cut it out for me and it cost me $600.

Tommy: I don't think you'd get that bulk billing. You could get that, you could be on a list for public hospital. Like, think about someone who cannot afford $600. And they're about to die.

Josh: He like, he didn't cut, he didn't— apparently the podiatrist, he's a bit of— everyone loves a bit of health chat. The podiatrist said that they're meant to put some sort of liquid on it that sort of, uh, stops the little thing from growing back, like the ingrown.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so what I have now, this is really gross, so turn it off if you're not into it, guys, but every 3 months I have this on the side of my toenail.

Tommy: Jesus.

Josh: I have this little a little fin that sort of just grows, and I can get tweezers. And Bree gets so fucking mad if I ever use her tweezers.

Tommy: That's enough.

Josh: I pull it out and it's like a little fin. It feels like a real soft material. Anyone can relate? Hi@thedailytalkshow.com.

Tommy: Post your fins in it. Yeah, post your fin. No, stop it. Geoffrey Edelston, I'll tell you a little bit about it.

Josh: No, just quickly, if someone posts a photo of their ingrown toenail. No, if they don't post it, they send it to hi@thedailytalkshow.com and they put a piece of paper on it with "I love The Daily Talk Show," I'll give them $50.

Tommy: Well, you didn't lose your 50 bucks from CY, who you thought was just not listening to the show, but looking for free stickers.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And they got free stickers.

Josh: They got free stickers, but they did. They they never told me that they listened to the show.

Tommy: Okay, let's get back to it. Geoffrey Edelston.

Josh: 50 bucks.

Tommy: He was born May 2nd, 1943, is an Australian medical entrepreneur who founded Allied Medical Group. Okay, so he didn't found bulk billing, but I will say this. Following the establishment of Medicare by the Hawke government in 1984, Edelston began to run innovative and multidisciplinary, disciplinary—

Josh: a lot of reading lately—

Tommy: that 24-hour medical centers, which were forerunners of modern corporate medical practices, decorated with chandeliers, white grand pianos, and mink-covered examination tables. The clinics attracted considerable media attention. Edelston's clinics were the first in Australia to bulk bill patients to Medicare so that they incurred no direct cost. Within 4 months of opening, the first clinic was dealing with 2,000 patients every week. Edelston eventually owned 13 medical centres in which approximately 20,000 patients and consultants saw 200 doctors every week. Dude, he had a pink— he had a fucking pink helicopter at one stage.

Josh: He's a sugar daddy.

Tommy: He owned the Sydney Swans.

Josh: So Bryn Edelston was his wife. They got divorced.

Tommy: Bryn Edelston was at my wedding. Did you know that?

Josh: What the fuck are you talking about?

Tommy: So Bryn Edelston— well, Bryn Gordon is her surname— was married to this guy who we're talking about, Geoffrey Edelston.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: My best mate Rhys, who you know, so Rhys's godfather, Rob Menzies, good mate of mine. Yeah, he's also a good friend of Bryn's. And so I said, uh, obviously giving Rob a plus one to my wedding, and, um, he brought Bryn. I've, I've hung out with Bryn. I've gone out with Bryn, with Rob. We've had dinner. It is a—

Josh: like, I've actually worked with Bryn before.

Tommy: Have you?

Josh: Yeah, I filmed, uh, Fox FM's Really Good Wedding where they would determine— they picked someone who wanted to get married and they had to spin a wheel. And this is a radio stunt. They had to spin a wheel and wherever it landed on, they would decide on certain parts of the wedding. So for instance, they would say, where is the location going to be of the wedding?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And it was the options of, um, you know, like it could be on an island or it could be, you know, nice places. And one of them on this wheel was at a, um, like an animal— like an animal shelter.

Tommy: Oh yeah, so someone's gonna have a wedding and they ended up having it.

Josh: The wheel landed on that and they— the people had a fish and chip, like a potato cake wedding cake. It was the biggest joke and I filmed it. I felt so sad, but I think that there was a, um, I'm trying to remember what Brynn's role was.

Tommy: She was spinning the wheel.

Josh: No, she wasn't spinning the wheel. Someone— you know what, I think that, um, uh, curly-haired footy manager that went—

Tommy: Ricky Nixon.

Josh: Rick— I have a feeling Ricky Dicky Ricky. I feel like Ricky Nixon was selected by the wheel to walk the bride down the aisle.

Tommy: I have a feeling. I love radio in saying where is— I hated others, but that—

Josh: but Brynn Edelson was there, uh, for some reason.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And, um, but there was— I, I thought she was very likable.

Tommy: Oh, she's super sweet. She's super sweet. And, um, I used to go to Dancing with the Stars and do vox pops for the Rush Hour, for the Triple M, for the Triple M Rush Hour. And that's where I— because my friend Rob was the producer of that whole show, that show. And so he'd get me in and I'd lurk around the after parties and mingle, eat the food, drink the free piss, talk to the celebs. And she was on the show that year that I was, um, right in the midst of it. But she was married to this guy. The whole time I've known her, she wasn't married. But the time that I was at, um, uh, what do you call it, Channel 7 there to watch the live recording of Dancing with the Stars. I was sitting with, um, Geoffrey and his mum.

Josh: And so his mum's alive? That was him at the time?

Tommy: Yeah, his mum made a lot of money through, um, lingerie business, like old school wealthy family. It's always one of those— he's a bit like the Trump in that no one knows, a bit— if he actually has any money left, but he flaunts it.

Josh: Yeah, sure.

Tommy: One of the other similarities between Trump and Jeffrey.

Josh: This is all allegedly. I just get nervous.

Tommy: What's the legend?

Josh: Well, the reason I'm saying it is because—

Tommy: what, this mum made money? No, through lingerie.

Josh: The community— there was a community radio station that got sued by— I mentioned this previously—

Tommy: by who?

Josh: By the, um, mayor of Geelong, the paparazzi dude.

Tommy: I don't think I've said anything that bad.

Josh: I know, but I just thought, wouldn't it be— it'd be pretty outrageous if, if we just said, oh, you know, like Jeffrey's actually got— he's a bit like Trump, he's got no money.

Tommy: A bit like Trump? People look at him and say, does he actually have money? He's driving around in Bentleys and shit, and he has a big house. Does he have any cash? We don't know. But, uh, the other alleged— I hate even having to say this shit.

Josh: The thing is that I actually would never say, like, the idea that someone sues us is fucking hilarious, but it was a community station. That's why I get like, we are playing in this realm, this sort of alleged similarity to Trump.

Tommy: Trump has, um, Trump got married years and years ago.

Josh: As you said, alleged— I don't think you have to say Trump got married years and years ago.

Tommy: Yeah, I could say allegedly because I'm not reading the information in front of me that I can pass blame on to. Paid people to come to his wedding. So he paid, um, I think Hillary Clinton. Yeah, there's a photo of them at the wedding crazy, then you're up against her. This was before he even was dabbling in the, you know, political circles. Uh, Brynn and Geoffrey got married. Jules Lund got an invite. Heaps of Melbourne identities—

Josh: I thought you were talking about Trump still.

Tommy: Got an invite, but it's alleged, um, that he's— he paid his family to attend. It was that— it was at Crown.

Josh: There's a sense of sadness if that isn't there.

Tommy: It is totally sad. Um, so this is— what does it say here? It says Jeff paid us sitcom stars Jason— oh, he paid US— I said us, what a fucking idiot. He paid US sitcom star Jason Alexander and Fran Drescher to act as MCs of the wedding, but Brynn alleges they're not the only faces paid to be there. So this is Brynn coming out airing dirty laundry. Um, it wasn't just Fran and Jason who were paid.

Josh: Is this the Daily Mail or something?

Tommy: Yes, it is.

Josh: Is it literally the Daily Mail?

Tommy: This is the Daily Mail.

Josh: The Daily Mail make up so much shit.

Tommy: Some of— this is from Breen— some of Jeff's relatives were paid to be at the wedding. Full on. And it's all a show. And I mean, to be honest, I saw Breen and I— when they got together, I was like, you fucking serious?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: This young girl's going out with this dude? Surely that's about money. I don't think she got any money though.

Josh: Really? So probably prenup or something. This is the closest we're getting to celebrity gossip, I reckon.

Tommy: How's it feeling?

Josh: Look, it's stretching my knowledge of all of this stuff, but it's okay. Update on Friday.

Tommy: Yeah, we're doing Fat Friday. Is it Fat Fridays?

Josh: Fat Fridays plural. Yes. Yeah, it's a benchmark. Yep, Fat Fridays is what we're saying.

Tommy: I just got hesitant because I heard you sort of stop and go, Friday's Friday, Friday. And I was like, oh no, which one is it? But it's Fat Fridays.

Josh: Yep.

Tommy: It's perfect.

Josh: Yeah, so Fat Fridays is a thing that we now do, which is on Friday we'll try and incorporate food in some regard.

Tommy: It has to be fattening.

Josh: Exactly. I mentioned it on air. I didn't even message Russ Keys, who listens to the show, but I thought this sounds like something Russ would get behind. Yeah, and he's been on the DMs. He's organised a table for us at Eazy's, the burger joint across the road. We have, uh, a comp— uh, what is it called, a competitive—

Tommy: well, I'll tell you his Instagram handle. I'll first say he's got 160,000 followers.

Josh: That's crazy.

Tommy: He's doing better than the The Daily Talk Show. His handle is Hulk Smash Food, and his bio reads number 1 ranked Australian professional competitive eater.

Josh: Fuck yeah! Yes, that's the title. And so Russ has hooked us up with Hulk, and he's going to be with us on Friday, and maybe we can get him to do some form of demo of his competitive eating.

Tommy: You, I mean, you haven't ever had to be paid to eat, but, um, or in a competition to eat. You've just eaten. What's your skill level? Like, are you a— you just love food, but are you a fast eater?

Josh: Like, I could do— you and I have spoken about this. One of my favourite things is the feeling of being so full you feel sick.

Tommy: Yeah, that's—

Josh: it's a bit probably bulimic. I don't want to vomit, but that, ooh, too many nachos is the feeling I crave.

Tommy: Do you think it's the speed at which you eat? 'Cause I've seen, I think you eat quite quickly just in general, especially if you're hungry. I think we all do, but I've noticed you do it.

Josh: I do it a lot.

Tommy: And like 2 bites and it's fucking gone. I'm just like, whoa.

Josh: Well, did you see the chicken? We were on a shoot with Nando's today. I'm trying to be a bit leaner with what I'm eating, preparing for Fat Fridays. And so you said to me before we went there, you said, now I said, oh, there's probably gonna be some catering. And you said, yeah, just don't have the chippies. And unfortunately at the beginning—

Tommy: I say it 'cause I don't wanna have them either.

Josh: Yeah, but we both ate the chippies because— We ate the fucking chippies. Because the chippies were the first thing they brought out. But then the lovely Kat who works at, she's the PR, What does Kat do?

Tommy: She's head honcho of the marketing, head honcho of the social media department.

Josh: That's right. And so Kat said, do you guys want burgers or whatever? Like, what do you want? And we landed on, I let you say, I was like, ah, and you're like, oh, we could just get some chicken just on its own.

Tommy: Well, I did think we're paid to be there for our services of production.

Josh: Plus we don't need the carbs.

Tommy: And you don't need to be holding a burger at a shoot. I think it's just like little tenders.

Josh: It's not a boom.

Tommy: So you slurp them down.

Josh: Yeah, but you would have seen me eating them.

Tommy: I actually didn't see you put it in your mouth because I was so fucking quick because I was shelving them.

Josh: No, I am shelving, by the way. I never knew what shelving was until— so shelving is just—

Tommy: let them look it up.

Josh: Shelving is putting stuff up your ass.

Tommy: You knew that. Go back to episode 14. You knew at 10.

Josh: No, the reason that I actually knew, because Jules Lund, he had a radio show, Fifi and Jules, and he got in trouble from the producers for making a shelving joke on air. And I didn't understand it. And then I, now when people say, oh, we'll just shelve that idea for later, I have a bit of a giggle. But my point is, is the, The chicken, I didn't want to get sticky fingers from the peri-peri sauce. So, I was eating it, but like I was using the pick and I would pick it up, like I'd stab the chicken and then I would grab it with my teeth and then, and just eat the whole thing.

Tommy: Yeah. Just quickly before we wrap up.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: We were talking with Craig Harper today. We're on Craig Harper's podcast tomorrow.

Josh: Yeah. I'm not sure when he's putting it out, but every Thursday I think he puts them out.

Tommy: Is that right?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Fuck, we better get it over to him. So we're on his podcast, and before we were talking to him about just opening that door, you know, it's like for you, for him, he's talked about the cheesecake, and I've almost tried to bully him into eating cheesecake.

Josh: Yeah, wasn't even on the show. This was pre-show.

Tommy: This was pre-show.

Josh: This is a D&M early morning, just arrived at the cafe.

Tommy: Is there a like, and so his thing is he loves cheesecake so much he's been he's an ex-fat guy, and if he just goes there, it just opens it up.

Josh: Domino.

Tommy: Is that for you too?

Josh: Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: So, so for instance, Friday we're eating at Easys. We'll probably be eating by 12:30. What happens after that? You've eaten a shitty meal.

Josh: I think that I, I'm good in that regard if I'm really, um, deliberate with it. And I say Friday, like, I got into cheat days for a while from The 4-Hour Body, where I'd go so hard.

Tommy: Oh, you went hard on the day?

Josh: On a cheat day, but the thing was that it was sort of like I would wake up early and go to bed at midnight. I'd be up at 6 and I'd have M&M's.

Tommy: Maximize the waking hours.

Josh: Yeah, like literally.

Tommy: Maximum amount of calories.

Josh: Yeah, it was pretty disgusting. I'm like, if I'm gonna, I remember specifically waking up to one of those buckets of M&M's, like went out into the lounge and just started eating them.

Tommy: Okay, so that's, that's, um, an eating disorder.

Josh: I know.

Tommy: Yeah, I mean, that's dangerous. I think you can do cheating cheat days, cheat meals.

Josh: I think, I think that this on Friday, having like, uh, tater tots or whatever they call, you know, tots with mac and cheese.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And a burger. And maybe that's my one meal of the day. The other thing too, I don't know if this is a thing, but I drink heaps of water. Whenever I drink water, I feel like it's sort of for every 1,000 calories, if I have like 4 litres of water at all, like I'm just gonna fucking, it's gonna push it out of the system.

Tommy: And so if you open the door, you think you can control it, but you can't have it as a, it can be, I can have a shit meal, I just can't have a shit.

Josh: I just need to be intentional about it. I need to say I am intentionally having, I am not someone who orders this all the time, but right now I'm having it.

Tommy: Yeah, it's interesting. I, I snowball.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I feel sick and I start farting.

Josh: And so we need to— you need to, uh, get your storey ready and maybe even video if you have it on Friday. You've said you've done some form of competitive eating.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Keep it, uh, keep it for old mate Hulk. Uh, it's a Daily Talk Show. Hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you want to send us an email, or thedailytalkshow.reddit.com. TJ's posting up every single episode now, I think.

Tommy: So, um, we'll, uh, chat to you tomorrow, guys.

Josh: Catch us.