- November 16, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Friday November 16 (Ep 219) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show, we’re live from Donut King in Rowville! We chat about amateur wresting, Tommy’s stint as a roving reporter for Triple M, the real reason why In-N-Out Burger do pop up shops in Australia and our new weekly Friday episode benchmark, Fat Fridays!
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Yeah, well, it's, it's it's just happened. Naturally. It's evolved. We are currently sitting at the front of a donut King. No sponsor,
not just any donut King. It's the donut King at stud park in Roseville.
Well, how we ended up here.
Well, we had a shoot today in Crandon it's not that often that we're in the southeast.
Now this is I mean, this is quite far out from where our HQ is. So yeah, we're making the most of it. Yeah. And
so we're given that we were in the burbs, we thought would take the opportunity to have the full burb experience. Yeah, it
isn't anything having microphones sitting in a public place. I I'm too out of it. Like as in I'm too in the environment of doing this stuff and seeing it and being in the industry for too long. But I can't grasp what
would what thinking
Well, yeah, I can't grow. I'm a puncher in most of my life. But that's one area that I'm definitely not a panda. So I don't the Curiosity like that just drags your eyes along as they walk past is watching you
are these pretty curious about what's going on too. If I saw two guy I definitely if I say camera, if I see something going on, I'm like, what are they shooting? Do you think they wondering because of some danger or some some mad going? Just thinking? I wonder what they actually recording what they're talking about? I think the whole idea is that terrorists use cameras and microphones. It's fucking dumb.
Yeah, that is true.
So this place is like a it's like a mini shopping centre.
It's a shopping centre. Yeah.
Well, it's amazing. Anyway, in comparison, the big ones like knocks and Southland, Janssen Bondi Junction, all of those guys. So this is like, a couple of like, further ease and it's pretty there's these places, this would have been a dingy one back in the day. It's kind of it's hot market now. Yeah, but it's still got some of that old sort of charm. It's getting old. Hey, hey, Pro. It's called the studio. Hey, bro. I get you fresh cats. And just the chisel lines. There's a bunch of teenage kids is waiting for the haircuts that moment, but also like the the shoe repair shops that have sell pins as well. Yeah, and they do the key card, the key county I mean, it's so convenient to get your case cap. But I can see Josh they've got a Zippo lighter kit. And that's
what's what's the
size in a Zippo lighter zippers, just the brand of the lighter. Yeah. And then and so comes with the Zippo. But it also comes with some of the Flint.
What's a flint
Flint is the bit that you actually that creates the spark. Okay,
and so it's so you
know, it's the thing that lights the field because the it's the spark comes in like these picture like a great lead pencil, one of the like the one of the reef reef refillable one. So you just slide the piece of grey light in, you can pump it out of it. So it's a similar thing as these little bits of Flint, and then it's got the few, but my brother had one and I just remember, like the elder brother having the thing that you just like that is the coolest thing I've ever saying. Because you could make them the flame is quite big as well. Well, you can. I can't remember. I don't remember you can do that with lighters, but these are like, you put the fuel into the bottom. And then it's like a it's like a very old school
lighter. I remember using one of my mentor and partners, like I think that they like once they've lost their spot. There's still a fun toy for summer. My kids used to flick them okay.
Yeah. So you held them in. It's almost like a click, you can open them. There's tricks that people do with them. But there is one other thing. And this show is just pretty much based on observations that I yeah, but I am seeing a it's like it's a flyer.
It's stuck up on donut King. What's the fly? Can you say it says PC w wrestling? Iron Man? Lucas Daniels vs Mark cage? Yeah, so you fucking kidding me? You know it is? Is it like wrestling in the bird? Oh my god. So
WWE if WWE big, big stuff
to the right, ww f change the WWE
worldwide Federation? What Why?
I believe that there was a trademark issue with WWE, which is the panda like the environmental Yes.
Yeah. Which is why they changed it. So I was a big fan who as a kid, yeah. In in Australia, probably late 90s, early 2000s. You could you could watch it now been early 2000s you could watch it on free to a TV, but it was on really late at night like after it was probably 1230 I really and I remember staying out to watch the wrestling and I just made it was like I said attack it out.
What? a wrestler. Well, I had like the cane was a Hulk Hogan days.
That was like free.
Isn't Hogan WWDC? Yeah, that
was real old school. But then when it came to I think it was WWE, like Stone Cold Steve Austin. Yeah, it was great Undertaker 16 and I'm gonna Yeah,
yeah, you understand what he's talking about there?
No, I didn't. had no clue. I just loved it. A bunch of men in you know, smaller outfits is jumping around beating the shit out of each other. And you think it's, you think it's entirely real as a kid? Yeah. And it was always like, and I will say the wrestlers fucking beat themselves up like it is. It's but it's not like a UFC fight. It's not full. I'm trying to be careful because I understand how hard it is. But I also know that it's it is not the UFC. Its current. It's staged. And it's choreographed. But there is an element of danger to it. So they are fucking breaking chairs over each other's backs and shit. But when I was working for triple m, the rush hour Yeah. Which is a Melbourne based afternoon show, hosted by James Bray shores around this. Yeah, they've just changed time slots. They're like, three to four or two to four or something like that. And it's only I think they're on during the sporting time of the year like normally season. Yeah. Anyway. So what I do was, I'd find storeys, I had no idea what I was doing. They gave me this thing now like, yeah, we'll, we'll give you a job. You can go out and do these segments.
I never knew this about you know, I haven't Yeah,
probably Antonio. Because it was, it was almost the first thing so the way I even got into working with the radio station was through getting a job through the rush hour. I was a segment contributor.
So I feel like a roving reporter roving reporter, Dave, I was what are they paying you?
And he's like, Oh, no, pay hundred bucks a segment, right? Was that my hundred percent? I'm doing that. hundred bucks out invoice them? And I bet he's a catch. Yeah, can you go get us a storey so I'd have to go and do that. I didn't no idea what I was doing. So I went off and I'd find these quirky things I'd look on. Look on the internet. You know, like I did things like the what's it called the rally the Birdman rally Movember festival?
Is that where you jump off into the water? Yeah,
yeah, I went to the ice bar in Melbourne. Yes, it was a bit of a man
that the one in Fitzroy
there is one out that why this was in the city. What else did I got it you know, like red colour happened events?
And what would you How would you intro the bits?
So it was actually great. I was come into the studio. Oh, that's cool. It's amazing. And now it's a we got a man about town told me jacket in the studio. And who was on the show then James and Billy JB, who's the host for the show. And in the Victoria, the AFL for the show.
Man. Tommy jackets in Tommy jackets. He is what's been happening.
What's been happening, man, Billy JP out. You wouldn't believe it is very high status
to have you in the studio.
It was amazing. Last, but, but it was just for a small time. Great opportunity. How many segments did you do? I think I did 12. In the end of 1200. My content, just man about town. How much time did
you spend on each thing that why do I was getting paid 10 bucks now. So you were How long would the segments be? What was the format?
segment would be three minutes, four minutes. And I go away and I create a beach? Yeah. And I'd sit with the audio engineer. And he would cut it together. So do Vox pops. Yeah. So you know, come up with a quickie angle. And, and go out and sort of just sort of have an idea of how the montage to go together. And then the audio engineer would stitch it all together for me. And I'd sit in there with him. He probably didn't want to have to do it. But he did it. And and then I'll come on to the show. And then they'd throw to it. So this is one that I didn't actually get up because I didn't get every one of them up.
And would you produce it would you get if you didn't get it up on that now?
It was went on a so you record the audio sometime?
After the coin, you know, it's like it's a thing that every single time you get it up. It's a it's a good experience.
Yeah, I was on Melbourne radio like heaps of people heard, which was kind of cool. And so the wrestling I thought, Okay, he's this underground world of wrestling. And I didn't think too much like that's all I kind of thought that would be interesting to actually do what is like on the big screen, you know, WWE wF, they do this in Melbourne,
what sort of venues
so I got this I found this place. I did the producing for a family event organiser who was also one of the wrestlers and I got in touch with him and he invited me and I was at like, over the West Gate like Thomas town, like out in the burbs suburbs of Melbourne. And it was in this like, old whole like, Mesa Nighthawk like some some weed old club whole Yeah, real dingy. Right? And I got there. If you hear that noise, I think he's cutting some case. Oh,
that's what it is. I thought so it's like a coffee donut cake. I'm just having my case.
But so anyway, I got to this event and I was there by myself. And I do a lot of these moments of sometimes I brought some friends just to keep me company for in between. and I didn't know what I was going to do with this. But I just the reason I bring it up because it was such an experience. It was like I walked into this world where you're seeing these grown ups. Just fulfilling some childhood dream. It was the me watching the fucking wrestling as a kid staying up late, but then taking it a little far and it's all amateur. Total amateur. So it's like the stinky is change rooms. The dude's in like short shorts. Like she is bodies like amateur you know you haven't got your rocky john cena epic really
had like a little microphone consumed.
Like a mic like this. Yeah. And I'd be in there.
No headphones, you haven't triple m like Mike flag.
And I just talked to these people and I just remember feeling like someone's like it. For some reason I feel about a deep sadness being in this environment. Where was I
going to go underworld you see on the ground? We do.
Yeah. And I and I say weird. And I don't mean like idiots or like, just crazy. I am maybe judging them. But I'm also fascinated that these people have found this thing. And it's like a little it's a community. Yeah, no one was talking about his injuries. You know, I'm trying to how they're getting paid nothing was the
was there a drinking culture around it?
Not people weren't drinking.
The athletes weren't
they weren't drinking but the people were coming and so you having this tone of clientele that are rocking out they've got their you know, drinking their Jimmy's as well. So there is a it's like a canteen in your hot chips. It's like a local sporting event.
We should go to one one. I was thinking not only could we go to one, maybe we could get you to play some sort of cameo role. Would you be up for that? If like for celebration with the episode?
Yeah, I mean, I do it. It's just, it's, I just found it so bizarre. And I don't know if I want to be amongst that sweat and the stickiness.
And all that if you're just coming in to do one bit. What about would you emcee the night for them or something?
I'd rather actually be in the ring in the ring. You'd love to say it.
Now. I just feel like you got the hair to be able to emphasise your microphone to the laser. And so what it never got up never got on a
segment I don't I think I think I actually just recorded a few bits. And I was like, I'm not. I'm not getting anything. I've found that sometimes I can get into a negative spiral where I get there. And I'm like, I can't get anything not Yeah, it's like the in reflection. It was like, what were you expecting? I don't know, I was expected maybe I wasn't expecting. I don't know what I was expecting. But what I didn't expect is what it was. And what it was was probably the angle for the segment talking about how we there's one way more interesting, which is more interesting. But I had I didn't have the the perspective at that time. And I was probably a bit nervous that I didn't want to sort of shit on these people. You say how we do these dudes are doing this thing that just for no matter?
What sort of questions were you asking them? Do you remember?
We finding out like what their previous job like what their jobs? NASA is, is it like the doctor who you know,
say I didn't even have that perspective? I would have? I would, I used to come up with a line of questioning that I knew I could actually make something out of Yeah, it wasn't as like, why does that show which makes sense to go sort of. But because if I went in now going these are, this is a weird thing that these people are doing. Yeah. So let's look into the people that they are Monday to Friday. Yeah. And then they come out as these characters on a Saturday.
Where should you something about that? Do you think we could create a form of content?
Yeah, I think I think there would be some quickie people that are like an accountant.
Can you say what date that event is? So date satellite 15th of December?
Okay, there's absolutely no chance I'm going to that that's my wife's birthday.
I thought isn't that a reason to double down? We'll trade for me. Me we're going to the wrestling.
What do you mean like the WWE
know? Like I really think that would be her next question like the WWE not
but maybe she was just thinking like, like the ones that are actually famous and the rock
you talking about? Like the rock that famous guy the famous famous guy in the world? You know? You're talking about the WWE? Yeah, thing. And the the trademark stuff. Oh, yeah. just reminded me of something I found out the other day. Yeah. In and out. So In and Out Burger. Best burgers in America. Yeah, in the US. Amazing. And they do pop up shops in Australia.
I think I was mentioning it on when we were over in the States. They had that one that was like soul that in one hour in parental Windsor.
Yeah, you know, but and then Dunham in Sydney, the room all over the place. And every single time in an hour and a half. Like they do the pop up. I hear a May my all my mates that we're all saying. They come in. This is research. They're going to be here very soon. Yeah, why else would you do it?
Well, Why else? They haven't come here yet though.
Yeah, so I was speaking to a friend of mine who's an intellectual property lawyer. And she was saying the reason that they do it is because to own the trademark of a specific specific brand. Yeah, you need to be actually doing some form of business in the country. So they do the internet pop ups as a way of having some showing the brand in the Australian market. Please.
See, this is the thing I wonder if any of the people who have been to it have tried in that in America? Because our don't I want to know because if you'd think that if they actually just doing it for that reason? Yeah. That they need to do it. Well.
Yeah. Well, I mean, know if you if you're doing it for that reason alone, that I'm sure they're losing money on it. Because they have to get like what producer they use it they flying it out.
So questions need answers, surely
we can find someone who can answer hi at the daily talk. show.com if you've got any internet burgers scoops around the whole Australian thing, but I thought that was in fact
Yes. I'm fucking disappointed because I wanted internet
here in in Australia, you would probably do you think it'd be something you'd ate a lot if it was here.
Yeah, with with how many tonnes of Big Mac is in the last
couple of months? He brought it up the the double quarter pounder. She having them once a week?
Well, now it's just there was once a week for two weeks. And then before that maybe was a month before that. Yeah, but I went through a period of not eating McDonald's for so many years. And then Jimmy conspiracy Jimmy main him, which is love punch in a few pints, and then hit Mac is
so good. I think the people who bag out Mac is probably ill informed.
Well, here's the thing. This is my realisation and I've written the best burgers are around I would think at some of the most expensive places not like I think I've just gone to good restaurants plus been to America where there's so many good burgers. McDonald's, eat these crazy the fly but like, if you look at it purely from a consistency of flavour, like the texture of when you chewing it. It's it's evil. It's like if you think about
Is it funny how that when we talk about McDonald's that's the only way that we can speak about it what saying like justifying, like I know that they are they bad evil.
Well, I mean with so what I guess what I'm describing is the is a person tasting burger perfect is subjective, but perfect meaning consistent, like soft. I think they've done this thing with our looking at like what makes the best burger. It's like the how you can choose something. Yeah, I like the the the the What do you call it the the texture? Yeah, adds to what makes a perfect burger, the flavour the consistent all these things right the heat and Mac is trying he law because that's like they're so systemized, they can do it. It's very sorry when I say evil, it means that's why like they sell so many burgers. So this Yeah, so there's a lot Isn't it funny that we've turned the and turned a company into selling burgers is evil.
For the alien, came in and viewed it that'd be like who are the champs who've worked out this consistency. But I was just gonna say I remember when I saw supersize me, and I was just the documentary would have been like 2006
I can't even say that's Michael Moore.
No. Morgan Spurlock okay. And he Are you haven't you seen it?
years and years ago? Give me the Give me the
eat McDonald's for a month.
And he goes and gets those tests in the blood. Yes, I remember him in the doctors say you gotta stop.
He. I remember. I was so fancy. I actually it was around here. It was in Knox. I didn't even grow up in Knox by drove. I didn't drive because I was too young at that time. But my mom dropped us at Knox I think because it was a cinema Europa. I thought like, I'd never seen an independent film. In my life. I remember seeing that documentary and I was just blown away. It just you got some donut burps? That's okay. Yeah.
It's kind of Yeah.
When I just perform and we're going to, I had to go back to the car. Yeah. Because of the my phone. I left my phone to the car, basically, your your car. And I was trying to work out which one was your car? I couldn't find that straightaway. And didn't really even know what brand My car is. I don't know how to say is that he and I are in day. I say he and he and I
Oh, what a feeling. He and
I know you do. But no, I reminded me the first time that I was trying to be funny then. And you fact, the first time I was ever in the city as a kid. First time I was ever in the city. Well, actually, when I was when I was 18. I had my driver's licence. It was November 2008. And I was doing some films was actually for someone who was running for Lord man. And I really, I think it's really fun. It was pretty fun.
You jumped as well. So
I parked in the city. Yeah. One of those like all day parking garages Yeah. parked my car. When I was really was like a 40 degree day. Got all my camera gear. I had like a pelican case and had to you know, walk to this specific location. Yeah. Anyway, once the shoot was done two hours later went back to the to the car park. Yeah. And I couldn't find my ticket. To know what that means. If you don't find your ticket. Well on your parking ticket ticket
as a set fee. Yeah.
Which is really annoying. $5
that's annoying. Did you get like the early bird parking?
Yeah, it was nowhere near it was going to pick up yeah, it was meaning to cost me $55. That's fucking to know,
the I think I've talked about this the old hack. So at the Melbourne airport, it was being used, I think picked up to picked up on like, probably 10 years ago. But people were packing in short term, like right near the gap right near the gates. Yeah, check in which you're only meant to be there for like a day, or it's super, super expensive. But there was no, people were saying they lost their tickets. And so then they'll get charged 55 bucks. And they've been there for a week. So crazy. Yeah, I spoke to a few people that did it. Do you ever do it? No, no, I didn't have my licence. licencing not in my licencing I wasn't Yeah, I didn't need to ever you go there. But until like now there's more cameras and stuff. So this would have been before cameras. Before the automated like flight scans. I
just paid the 55 bucks and it was spewing about it. So but I paid the money. I got my new ticket. And the guy felt the security guy felt sorry for me. And I just said I can you just show me where the lift is because I just wouldn't need to go down. You know, one level. He says we don't have a Lyft I said no you do because I went in the Lyft to come up. said now we don't have a Lyft it turns out I was at the wrong fucking car park. She bought 15 years so I bought the $55 ticket. And I'm in the wrong car part. And I said that I saw I argued with him for a second said no. It was definitely Wilson's on Flinders lane. And he said Are we have five Wilson car parks on Flinders long, I had no idea about the city. So I had to then walk to every single Wilson's car park. Yeah, to try on Flinders line to try and find
there's a similarity between being 18 years into life, and 18 years
fucking close to the end of your life.
You're doing the same sheer losing take a rocket at the wrong pace. Dude, you aren't one of the most observant people in that respect. Like not knowing what Mike was like, what my car and that kind of stuff. I were at your mom's place before? As I Oh, is that spark or any water? Any? What spa?
Yeah, it's a complete jacuzzi. Like elevated out of the ground. The funny thing is, when you actually said spa, I thought their pool must have had a spa built in. Ah, that's too. But even the funny thing is, that doesn't excuse the fact that I couldn't say the spot. I never saw the spa. I just I really, I don't observe that
we run a lot. And it's probably more like, people's actions and things that being said, and you still like so you're observant and you hold information. I'm I'm the opposite. I walk in somewhere. I've already sort of marked the exits and like, done a few checks and like, thought about what that person's car was and where they came. Like I do that kind of. That's my Quirk. Yeah, like, especially directions and things like that way someone's house is so I just kind of I my sort of observation. And then ice sheet goes out of my head. But yeah,
yeah, it's I think it's a it can be a quality. That's good, because you're not getting distracted by heaps of shit. Yeah, true, but also can be a little bit of a pain in the ass. If you've got you keeping space for something else.
If we look at our brains, is it like a memory or? This is a tank? Yeah, I'm filling out with a bunch of stuff on the ship. But I'm also doing
the same. What was your version of this? This shop here? What would you What did you go to as a kid?
Yes. That's probably why I'm trying to explain this place because I didn't have this stuff. These aren't in the closest one is a place called the dandy, which was in brightens over cinemas as well as cinemas. So I mean, I spoiled being able to go to chapel straight mecca of
Melbourne to go to jam factory
capital. Yeah, so there's the jam factory, which is different. It kind of just had maybe one clothes shopping, some like the pancake power and all that stuff.
Jam factory, just so you know, it's something that I just worked out. Yeah. You know how I have Melbourne gig which has gone down for some reason I need to work out what happened. My Melbourne geek email address, gets a bunch of emails all the time I PR requests and share. But I haven't acted like it as maybe like a tech journalist, tech blogger, I haven't done anything with it in like probably seven years. And I just realised that I saw an email actually decided to open one of them and it was someone inviting me to like preview screenings of Robinhood like that. They've been sending me Yeah, emails inviting me to all the preview screenings at jam factory.
That's great. So this brings brings it back to the days of doing the storeys for the rush hour. Yeah, what I did was I didn't even have that. What I used to do was email people telling them that I was Tommy Yeah. Hey, roving reporter from the rush hour, and I created this signature that had the logo triple m in there.
What would you get out of it? What would you get?
I would assume I tried to get on PR lists that would send exactly what you're saying. And you didn't even you just I just fell off? Yeah, I was knocking on doors saying Can I hey, making friendship trying to get on list to the world Yeah, yeah. Hundred percent
Should we do that? I was thinking about with the Melbourne gate given I've got all this stuff I was thinking maybe we email those people and say hi, I'm now do a podcast right it should we do maybe a movie a fortnight or something where you and I go to it and we do a I do a segment
This is the real world problem for for a father
going to the movies is the biggest luxury on Earth would your business hours because this is the thing if it's a preview screenings at night, and that I would definitely bump into people we know 100% they're all like radio peeps. Definitely. You know, maybe
it's falling off a bit maybe that's why they reaching out sending people like you that they didn't actually know who they're talking to.
I think that I'm just on a Melbourne bloggers. Should we do something with Melvin geek like it got me thinking. Is that worth? Like? There was a time where the icon Yeah, Melbourne gig calm? Good demand. It's all right. Melbourne geek.com I mean, pigeon healthy. But literally, you can't even go there anymore. Like I think I updated something on my server and a month ago and it's just a prototype, but all the stuff is so old on there. But if I re like if I re did it, but then do I don't want to be Melvin geek anymore. But if we were to happen I would do a segment on the daily talk show. Yeah, a regular thing. That's good. But you're saying that you're getting pushback because you don't know if you'll be able to come?
Well if I is is the consideration that I might have to make as a as a parent
as a good dad
as as a good dad as a great dad as a great dad. In fact no good great as a great dad. The movie is something that I
wish to go quite a few movies drop stupid money. Well the reason that I probably mentioned it is because I don't go to that like I saw the Lady Gaga one are you did the stars stars born?
Yeah, no, you were texting me in that field? No, I wasn't now
we were texting no 100%
I don't I wouldn't have responded.
You fell asleep? You talked to me for a little bit and then you feel
we will do a better view than Josh not have I did. I'm trying to fall asleep in things but I definitely
have that this is a compromise rather than you doing it. Maybe that's something brain I could do. Yeah. And then once a fortnight Bry will come on. Yes. Me and we can talk about the film. Yeah, love it. Yeah. Love it. Do we have it? Do we need a name brain I need like the couple's
what's the famous review is in Australia or like Margaret and David. You're basically it's the Margaret and David segment with Bray and Josh. Yeah, so shall we get sued? cease and desist? You know to stop that Margaret and David segment playing.
Time to wrap up but what can we submit this idea about the donuts
fat Friday's? Okay. I think it needs to be because think about if we went to like a two rows place every second of Friday. So conspiracy Jimmy. He has fat Fridays with his staff. When they go they get over eight oh, for lunch. And so they go. Sometimes they get shit loads of backers. Sometimes they get like a hit heap of pizzas. Okay, they just blow out of it.
Okay, fat Fridays. Yeah, it's a thing. Hi at the daily talk. show.com where in Melbourne? Should we go? The lights are going off at our liking. They're shutting down.
Maybe we can have people join us for fun Friday.
Where should we go? And I think that we could definitely set up a bit of a thing. Definitely. Why don't we the first one Russkies who listens to the to the show. Yeah, he was messaging saying we should catch up. We should do it on Friday and do fat Fridays maybe we can go to the first one. Let's do Friday at easy's yeah
on easy straight like that easy burgers epic in a train.
So but that Friday?
That's right. Give us a lecture. Yeah. Okay. We could do it from Mrs. Fields cookies. Yeah.
Mrs. Fields is so good. Yeah. If you got any suggestions or send us an email, high fidelity talk show.com otherwise, have a great weekend. Everyone. You excited for the weekend? My
so I can hear that bit.
I just said are you excited for the week? It was a it was a clear end where you said say guys, I just felt like say something else. He looked forward to the weekend.
Yeah, I am. But I think just some feedback on today's episode. If we're in a suit from a place like this, I need a pair of headphones. It's a bit bit quiet, but I can hear I can
have a good one guys. Bye.