Mail time & doing the show live

Tommy: Wait a minute! Crossface! The Daily Talk Show, a conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Jansen and Tommy Jackett.

Josh: It's The Daily Talk Show, everyone. This is episode 147. Tommy Jackett.

Tommy: What is cracking?

Josh: Look, for people who don't know, I'm currently in Kraków in Poland eating a lot of food. It's currently just after 6 AM here. How are things at your end?

Tommy: Mate, is that light coming in, like natural light? Is it already bright?

Josh: Yeah, man, it's been bright since probably around— I think I woke up for the first time at 4 this morning. Thinking, oh man, I've got to get up now. And then I looked at the time and I still had like an hour and a half that I could sleep. It's perfect.

Tommy: Oh, you gotta love that. Well, it's a bit different scene here. It's, it's, it's cold. It's just started raining, so you might hear a bit of a pitter-patter on the roof. And it's not the, it's not the kind that's lovely when you are in bed. It's, it's during the day and people are going to do shit. So it's, um, Yeah, it's freezing. Everyone's got a cold. But, uh, perfect. There's some exciting news, Josh. I went and checked the PO box because you put me in charge of the, the PO box. Firstly, if you have a key to a PO box, you could pretty much steal anyone's mail, even, even, even the, um, like the ticket that you take in because the parcel was too big to put into the PO box, because they didn't even cheque my ID. He said, oh, you must have permission because you can access the, the PO box. And I was like, yeah, that's, that sounds about correct.

Josh: Wait, he actually said you must— did he use those words, you must have permission because you've got the key to the PO box?

Tommy: Legit, I thought. I mean, it would have—

Josh: yeah, it's a bit of a weird thing for him to say.

Tommy: I know, I— he, he could have just been scratching his nose as well, like he was, uh, in on the joke with me, but He didn't, and I got a parcel. And so this is what you— were you expecting a parcel?

Josh: No. Well, so the only— so for people who are new to the show, first of all, sometimes there's a slight delay in Tommy and my banter. It's got nothing to do with our hashtag chemistry and everything to do with using the internet from one side of the world to the other. But no, I— that PO box, it has because Bri and I are going away, like, are away for the next couple more months. That's where any bills are going to go, and it's also the official PO box of the Daily Talk Show. So, it's PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067. And you're saying we've got some stuff.

Tommy: We've got some stuff, but I've got like a parcel. Like, if you ordered something online, you'd know. So, I don't like— if it's not anything to do with the show, but I'm happy to open it. I love opening mail.

Josh: Yeah, open it. Yeah, yeah. What does it say?

Tommy: All right, so it, it seems it doesn't say— it's from UPS. It was, I think there's— yeah, it's from the States, Los Angeles. I'm just thinking it might have been part of your rebrand and you're getting a few t-shirts.

Josh: Can you show it to me?

Tommy: Sent out.

Josh: Like, can I see it on the video, please? Okay, great.

Tommy: It feels like a little cushion.

Josh: So, uh, yeah, great.

Tommy: Just quickly open up this. Mail time.

Josh: I don't know how well Mail Time does in audio form, but I've got to say I'm loving it.

Tommy: Do you know who it's— Trello, as in the— why has Trello sent us t-shirts? As in the, the board that we put together all of our shows on. Trello have sent out some t-shirts. Did you not organise this?

Josh: No, I didn't organise this.

Tommy: Oh my God, either they're reading our show notes.

Josh: Yeah, what's—

Tommy: I want to— so there's Josh. Hi Josh. Hi Josh and Tommy, who'd you guys use Trello for the show? Keep up the great work. Taco Taco, I love your name for one, and, um, I definitely won't fit into this one. I could—

Josh: yeah, that's for Amy for sure.

Tommy: How cool is this?

Josh: This is outrageous. We've got stickers. I think we've got Taco is the dog. This is—

Tommy: yeah, this is our first branded piece of content if I've ever seen it, mate. I actually don't mind these. Trello served us well. This makes it all weird, this Trello t-shirt.

Josh: Yeah, amazing.

Tommy: This—

Josh: I can't believe— I wonder what they— I wonder if they— yeah, I wonder how they came across us. I mean, If I was them, I would probably be looking at everyone's boards, seeing how they're using it. But I don't know, like, surely, I don't know if like terms and conditions they can do that. Like, I wonder if they can actually go in, look at the boards and see, ah, this is a podcast, we should cheque them out. But they heard us mention it.

Tommy: So, yeah, this is fascinating. Yeah. Someone has to have either listened to the show Or they're reading our board.

Josh: Either way. No, well, they have to have listened. They have to have listened because they've actually said they've heard us on the show. And it'd be a bold claim to just assume that, yeah, so I think that it must be someone who listens. This is super exciting.

Tommy: I was just checking the Trello board to see if we'd put our PO box in there somewhere, which I don't think we have. So Trello's based in the States. Mate, yeah, I like this. All right, do you want me to open the next one? Just quickly punch through these because you're right, I don't know how it translates. Um, oh, this is from, uh, Wayne Peters.

Josh: Uh, great, awesome.

Tommy: He sent through— he sent through a sticker of the Renegades.

Josh: Can you see that? We're gonna— we need to have like a fridge or something in the office where we're adding all of our stickers. I feel like that can be a thing.

Tommy: I like it.

Josh: Thanks, Wayne.

Tommy: And then he's written a lovely, lovely card. I don't know if you, I'll just read the first line. Absolutely loving the podcast. Even my 14-year-old daughter, Alison, is getting into the episodes. How good's that?

Josh: Amazing. Yeah, I saw Alison liking our Instagram post. That's ace. That's, mate, this is— I'll have to keep up with you there. I did not expect that we would get anything from the PO box. This is actually, I'm actually in shock that this has actually worked.

Tommy: Ask and you shall receive, I think a wise man said. All right, now I'm opening up one. I know who this is from. This has come all the way from, it's a worldwide up to 100 grams. That's what the, what do you call it? The little sticker says. All right, here we go. Hi guys. Well, I'm in the family now. I thought I'd troll you a little. This is from Michelle. She sent through a whole stack of stickers. 'Cause I think she's got sent us an Apple sticker, which comes with Apple, your Apple computer. She sent us a RØDE, I love RØDE mic sticker, which comes with the product and a bunch of others. I think it's because she's still waiting on the stickers that You're meant to be sending her.

Josh: 100%. That's why it is. And do you know what? There's definitely something here in— All these brands are sending stickers nowadays and people don't know where to always put them. I think we almost— So, Wayne's known for his hats. He's always like trying on different hats. We could almost be the sticker guys where people can send us their unused stickers and we can create some— Like maybe what we could do is every single time we send out the Daily Talk Show stickers, You also get a random other sticker for another brand.

Tommy: Yeah, I like it. There's heaps here. It's— oh, she sent us like the computer. I think this is— must be from like a some sort of computer part that she bought and got a bunch of stickers. AMD A-Series Black Edition.

Josh: Yeah, I don't know what that is. Yeah, it's like, uh, it's a chipset.

Tommy: That's awesome.

Josh: Like, uh, Intel. This PO box is not here.

Tommy: Well, I don't know exactly what we'll do with all this stuff, but I like your idea, Josh, of creating some sort of system where we're sharing the sticker love.

Josh: Well, we haven't mentioned the PO box in a long time, so if people do want to send us letters, PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067.

Tommy: And I also say—

Josh: Just to close the loop, Yeah, go on. Yeah, go, close the lid, please.

Tommy: On the riddle that was sent through from Michelle, and we were trying to work it out, and it was the Da Vinci Code to a few dumbasses like us. But Campton James just asked me before in the office, he said, mate, did you work out that thing Michelle sent you? So the listeners are keen, my case study of just one, but if you broke it down, it's spelt out, stickers, and that connects to the, uh, the letter that she sent through with all the stickers.

Josh: So you see, the thing is that I'm stupid enough that I feel like even saying stickers would have, um, I still would have been dumbfounded. I still wouldn't have gotten it. So that's the thing. There's one thing to know the answer, there's another thing to actually have the mental capacity to take it on.

Tommy: Yeah, very funny. You were about to say something.

Josh: What was I going to say? I think I was going to troll you about the fact that I checked the Daily Talk Show's reviews on iTunes or through the podcast app. I cheque it regularly to see if anyone has left us any reviews, because that's one way that the podcast app knows that people are listening and will promote the show and things like that. Anyway, I got a nice one that said, you know, I think it said, keep up the great work, lads. Or something like that and talking about banter. I'm like, oh, this is nice. Who's this from? And I looked at the top and it was Tommy Jacket.

Tommy: I need to have a platform to explain myself because I feel a bit embarrassed about this.

Josh: What a fucking idiot reviewing his own podcast. It's the equivalent of liking your own photo on Instagram or masturbating to a pic of yourself. That's probably what you did.

Tommy: It's the latter, definitely masturbating to a pic of yourself. That's what I feel bad about. So let me just explain. I was working with Mason, my main man who helps out with some of the podcast content and content all around, absolute legend. And he's like, can you please do one of those screen recordings on your phone? I wanna do like a review Insta Story where it's encouraging people to jump on, show them how to leave a review on your podcast. I was like, yeah, sure, I'll do it quickly before I leave. So I did it, and I was like, ah, screen record, jump into it, find the Daily Talk Show, hit on review, right? And I just winged it. I was just like, I called the subject line was banter, and I just wrote, keep up the great work, boys, or lads, I can't remember. And then I press submit, and then I gave it a 5-star review. And honest to God, I literally thought it wouldn't allow me to do it because for some reason I was like, like in YouTube, you can't like your own videos. I know in Facebook and stuff, but some reason I was just like, this won't go through, or I've already done it. Something's not gonna work here. And sure enough, you screenshot and posted on Your own, was it on your own or was it on Dave's talk show?

Josh: Yeah, it was on my own Instagram.

Tommy: So, I'm the egomaniac that's basically wanking to a photo of myself.

Josh: I was disappointed really that it took you this long to do it. Like, I think there's a bit of, I have respect there for you that you didn't have a fake name and do this months and months and months ago. So, I think it's quite admirable. I'm sure, I've definitely left a rating. Probably not as narcissistic as to leave a review of myself yet, but that will come very soon, I'm sure.

Tommy: I think it, yeah, it was a stupid move by myself, but I just need to tell you something I experienced that's like a bit of a trap. I mean, this could just fall into a life trap segment.

Josh: Life trap. Life trap. So, baby life, that's where it's at. It's a life trap. Go on. I'm—

Tommy: this is almost like there's not an embarrassing storey attached to it, which it very well could have been. And I want to stop this from happening to anybody else because I was writing an email to my brother, and my brother's not someone I care if I accidentally send an email through to, and it's exactly what I did. But I didn't know that you could do this. So in Google, if you're— if you hold down— so in Google Mail, Gmail, if you hold down Command and press Return, it sends the email. And so I was halfway through this beast of an email and I hit Command and Return for some reason, and it shot off my email. So please be careful if you're typing out a work email and you're not sure about exactly if you want to send it or not. Something I do constantly, I write the email then scrub it out and start again because it's probably just shooting from the hip a bit. But fuck, I was so— I was like, oh shit. Yeah, shooting from the hip, you're just not even thinking, just whipping the revolver out and shooting like a cowboy.

Josh: Yeah, well, so that happened to me before, and then Bri told me about the fact that you can go into Google Apps or Gmail, whatever you use, and set a delay. So I have that set up now. So if I send an email, it has like a 20-second grace period for me to retract what I've, what I've just said.

Tommy: I need that. This is why I need you in my life back in Melbourne for my tech support. You— I'm, I'm, I am my mother for me. I'm her tech support and you were my, you're my son who just helps me out with all this bullshit.

Josh: Well, I was thinking it would be good, I think at some point eventually it would be good to have a specific technology segment I don't know what that looks like, but definitely I feel like there's so many tech storeys or things to talk about that are related to tech that we could definitely, you know, once a week do a 5-minute bit on technology.

Tommy: Yeah, I think, I think everyone could pick one of the, one of their friends that knows something really, really well and they're kind of proud. They wear it as like a badge of honour where it's like, Yeah, do you know that James is very well versed in this area and like you, and you're that guy in the tech space and camera stuff. It's like, it gives me a good feeling. It's like, yeah, well, if you ask Josh, I gotta ask Josh that first.

Josh: And it's like, yeah, so I think you need your own specific tech space. Well, we could do a bit of a hi@thedailytalkshow.com where people can submit their tech questions as well. We don't want it to turn into the tech guy with Josh doing it, but I have thought about that. I actually was thinking, so we can run this past people, what's your vibe, TJ, on potentially doing the show live? So, you know, we're going to be in a studio and rather than it just being a podcast, people will know that every morning if you're in Melbourne or whatever time around the world, you can tune in and go to our YouTube channel and watch the live stream. What's your vibe on the live stream idea?

Tommy: Yeah, I've thought it through quite a bit. I definitely can't be the cowboy as much as I am. I know people be like, don't filter yourself, and you don't want to be some sort of PC version of yourself. But I mean, like, I just, I know there are some shortfalls in, myself that maybe there has been a few edits out of what I may have said in the past. But I think it's good training. I like that aspect of it. I can't pick my nose. I just picked my nose as I was going on to talk about not doing shit on camera. I literally just picked my nose. There's a— I think there will be some training wheels that will be on, and that will come across in knowing that there's a camera set up. I think there has to be some sort of guard that drops down, which I think getting through that will be at least 20 episodes and then coming out the other side. But I like it. I like the thought of whether people watch it live or not. It's— that's another thing. But I think, yeah, some sort of morning, maybe when people get to work, they could flick it on.

Josh: And, um, yeah, it would be worthwhile asking people what time of the day would be the best time for you to consume a live stream. Obviously, we know we're be happy if no, no one in our existing audience base listened to us live. That'd be okay, like, because we understand that, like, first and foremost we are a podcast, but it's just another element being able to do it live. So if you would listen to us live, send us an email, tell us what time. I was thinking potentially like 9 AM. I could imagine if I worked for myself or whatever, having it in a in a tab somewhere, um, you know, in Chrome and just listening to it, or maybe flicking on now and then to, um, the second screen and watching it on YouTube. I don't know.

Tommy: Yeah, I like 9 AM. It's like you have your first coffee, you're just sitting down getting ready for the day.

Josh: And well, you know, I like to—

Tommy: a few idiots—

Josh: I, you know, I like to geek out on things, on things. And one of the things I have been looking at was, um like different technology that we could incorporate, and one of them is a dump button. So within radio, basically there's a, um, a 15-second or 10-second delay where if you say something, there's different varying levels. So the most basic one will, um, basically, I think when you press, press the dump button, it removes the last 10 seconds and it can go to a pre-recorded bit. Then there's more sort of technical ones that will actually allow you to censor and things like that. So, like, say the show, Kyle and Jackie O Show, which is a big show in Sydney in Australia, big breakfast show. They had a heap of trouble with saying the wrong things and getting sort of in trouble by the regulators. So, they ended up having to have a censor where someone would sit in and they would be listening live. And if anything was said that shouldn't be said, they would actually beep it out. So that's what they would use that delay for. But I do, I was looking at options that we could incorporate. I like the idea of having a dump button.

Tommy: Yeah, I just don't know how much we'd use it. I don't think we're that loose. I don't think we'll use it. How much are they to start out with?

Josh: I think it's about $2,500. So probably, but then you think about how much you'd get sued for. So, but the only thing that was stopping me was I was like, there would be issues with the, video. So this is an all sort of like an audio processing option where it's processing the audio and delaying it and then spitting it out. But, um, I wouldn't know how to do that from a video syncing point of view.

Tommy: Yeah, I think it just, it'd confuse it. The thing is with— and for anyone who's done a podcast before, there's a lot of technical layers. And so the more you add in and the more you need to do by yourself The more you hear it in someone's voice that they're just literally doing a million things at once, thinking about is the audio going to air, is there video?

Josh: Well, that's going to be the beauty of having the podcast, right, is that there's— sorry, the studio— is that it's all going to be sort of baked in. Like right now there's, you know, a delay that we're working with where I'll say something, it takes a couple of seconds, and then on yesterday's episode I went through and probably spent 40 minutes after the show, just going through and tightening, not removing any content, but just tightening those gaps. So, I am looking forward to the time, I was even thinking about it when we start being in person, how that dynamic's going to even change. Like, I wonder if there's going to be a moment of getting into that cadence of not having to sort of wait 2 seconds for someone to finish their sentence before they start one.

Tommy: Yeah, it's super hard. It is so hard. But I think, yeah, I'm so excited for our studio and what's happening. I mean, if you haven't been listening or if you're just fresh to the show, Josh is away, but I'm going over to the States. Is it wrong that I keep looking at the flights? It's fine. I keep looking at how much it's gonna cost 'cause we haven't booked them yet. But I think it's one of those things that just like ignites the excitement every time that I look at the flight and, um, and thinking about, oh, stopping in LAX and then flying to NYC, it's getting me real excited.

Josh: Yeah, so, uh, well, it's gonna be great. Like, it will be a good—

Tommy: me through this delay.

Josh: Yeah, and it will also be a, um, yeah, that'll be the first time that we're seeing each other in person. So it'll be a good, you know, 10 days or whatever going, going around and having conversations with different guests. I think that's, that's what I'm excited about, is it's just like, it's going to be You know, from what we've organised already, we've got some amazing guests over 10 days. So, it's just going to be, I think, a lot of fun.

Tommy: It's— I am a bit sad that I won't see my child.

Josh: Oh, yeah. You've got that old chestnut.

Tommy: For the 10 days.

Josh: What's been the conversation?

Tommy: What's the planning? Well, Amy's then going away. So, I get back and then a week later she's going up to Sydney. For a wedding and taking Bodhi. So then there'll be another like 4 or 5 days. So it's, oh man, like as soon as I leave my kid, I'm thinking about him. I'm watching videos before of my son in the bath last night and him telling me, I'm saying, Bodhi, get out of the, we need to get out now. And he's saying, no, no. So he's responding to me. So it just like is this, It gets even greater the more that they interact, you then miss them even more. So, yeah, I mean, I'll get through it, but it's like, it's, yeah, it's a bit sad. I couldn't imagine leaving him all the time. It would be really hard.

Josh: Yeah, I'm excited about when we come back that I'm going to have missed that winter. Like, I think there is a lifestyle in, and this is essentially what Hamish Blake's doing. I remember like a year ago talking to him about what he's doing at the moment, It's like, it was like really cold. It was, you know, winter in Melbourne and he's like, man, it'd be great to have a lifestyle where you could do, you know, winter somewhere else where you could go, you know, because when basically in Australia when it's, you know, winter in Europe, in the US, you know, in the sort of, you know, north of Australia, it's all summer. So, it's— I'm excited that I'm basically going to go from summer to summer. And so it will be not until probably, what, June that I get shit weather again.

Tommy: Yeah, there's a film called Endless Summer and it's one of the greatest surfing films of all time. But it's just, yeah, the premise of guys just chasing the waves.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And that sun. I mean, you can just live in LA and it's pretty much nice weather majority of the year when we're there in October.

Josh: It'll be really nice.

Tommy: I think it's like Yeah, 21.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Which is getting towards their winter.

Josh: Yeah. But perfect weather. It's ridiculous. You saw the photo of the surfing in Munich. Do you think that if that was you, would you have found a board and gone in yourself? Or do you see that as like too much of a local thing and you wouldn't have risked the embarrassment of falling on your face with all those people watching?

Tommy: No, I definitely would have given it a crack. And what Josh is talking about is there's— and I've seen this before in Munich, there's like a river that has— it must have a hole at the section where the water then dips down and then forms like this wave. And I'm obsessed with those waves. In that movie Endless Summer, they actually create one of these. There's like a river that fills up and then they dig a hole in the sand, and so when the tide rises or at some point there must have been, I don't know, some sort of, some rain that then forced all the water down and then it goes and hits this hole and then creates this wave. And so I've been obsessed with those hole waves. That's not the technical term, but the wave in the river.

Josh: The hole waves.

Tommy: I would, if I had a board, I'd definitely give it a crack.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But I'm sure that the locals would get a bit pissed off at that.

Josh: Just imagine the etiquette.

Tommy: Just idiot Australians.

Josh: Yeah, well, I could even imagine the, what you were doing with Surfyleaks. So, basically, long storey short, Tommy did some drone footage of a surfing spot in Australia and just put it on Facebook and had death threats from surfers from the local area calling him out for basically, you know, telling people where a sort of a secret spot was. Could you— I feel like— And so, Tommy basically put together a pitch which got really close to like got an offer for funding and stuff like that. And it was around that surfing culture. I wonder what it would be like, the surfing culture in Munich.

Tommy: Well, it's a, I think, was that just a normal day? Like, is that always pumping?

Josh: I don't know. Well, it was a Sunday, I think that we, yeah, it was a Sunday. So, maybe that had something to do with it. But the interesting thing, about Munich is it was like on a Sunday, nothing was open. So, we were there for a Saturday, Sunday, and then our flight was Monday morning. And it was fine because the beer garden was— We went to like the second largest beer garden in the world. It was sort of like a Japanese garden style thing. And it was good that that was all open. It was really pumping. But, um, yeah, for— on a, on a Sunday, it's not the best day to be actually doing anything like shopping. So it was, it was— everyone was there, it was really pumping.

Tommy: Yeah, well, I think that wave, it's, it's, it— if it's constantly working, then I'm sure you could sneak in. I've seen heaps of professional surfers. Mick Fanning, I've seen him on that wave, and it's just like a bit of fun. What happens when they fall off and then they get sucked down the river and they just Paddle and, you know, get back up and walk back to the wave. Is that what happened?

Josh: Yeah, I don't know how far they go down before they exit, but I was watching— The river had like a real strong current. So, what we were watching is just people like jumping into the water and then they were just like flying along. It was almost like one of those like rides that you would see at one of the water theme parks.. But it really picked you up. It was a little bit like if you— If you didn't know that it was going to be okay, I feel like you'd be freaking out because you wouldn't know if it sort of ended. Like, if you— If this was the first river that you'd ever seen, you would think you would never jump in because it was just so strong and you'd think it would end in some sort of massive waterfall. But yeah, that was really cool.

Tommy: I was speaking to a friend. Yesterday he's going to surf Kelly Slater's, uh, surf ranch, which is his man-made wave that in— it's in California somewhere out in the desert.

Josh: Wait, so it's like, it's like a pool?

Tommy: Have you seen it?

Josh: No.

Tommy: So picture— so it used to be, and I remember when they fir— when it, when it first got leaked, they, they really sold as this like secret project that was happening. And this guy, this Australian guy know his name, but if you Google it, just write Australia finds Kelly Slater's surf wave. And he used Google Earth to find this— like, it used to be an old, like, water ski park or like a wakeboarding park. So it's basically like a man-made body of water, just looks like a rectangle from above. And he zoomed down into it and then saw that over the years there was some construction going on. Then he, like, matched some of the photos, that were coming out, that were being put out by Kelly Slater and was matching like their, the light poles. And then he matched them to the ones from Google Earth and then worked out the location. So people would have gone out to this, this man-made wave. And what basically it is, is it looks like a train in the water on one side of the rectangle, or one like, it's almost in the middle of the water, in a big huge body of water. So there's still enough room on one side that the train starts and pushes through the water and creates this epic wave. That's what it looks like. Yeah, I'm sure there's like serious science that's gone on into work out how to generate this much power through the water, but it creates pretty much a perfect wave that can be barreled, and they can change the height of the wave and Like there's young kids surfing it. You would drown if you surfed it. I reckon I'd do alright.

Josh: I just wonder about this guy that did the research. It sounds like something that the, you know, spies do to North Korea to work out whether there's sort of their nuclear programme is still happening, like counting fucking lighting poles and stuff like that. I've got to wrap up, but wanted to mention Trevor Long, who sent us an email, listening at 30,000 feet. On a plane and he's headed to New York, actually. And he was talking about the phone numbers and how he got his first— with his first phone line, basically, the amount of numbers that he said his phone line had, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 numbers was all he needed for his first landline. And he even says that people would answer their phone saying the number. Isn't that weird?

Tommy: They didn't realise they could actually just say their name first. I do. This is the— how I— this is how old I am. I only— I was living in the generation where there was 7 numbers. So Trev had the 6. Yeah, I remember before they put the 9 in front of numbers in Melbourne. Yeah, I don't know about Interstate, but they added the 9 on. So I remember having the 596-5454, whatever it was, which, yeah, that's about it. But geez, Trev, how old are you, mate?

Josh: Well, he said that he got his second line for his house in '95 for the internet. And I, so in 1995, for context, I was 5 years old, and I do remember the internet. I remember there was a Macintosh computer that had it at our school. And I remember, but I specifically remember probably when I was like, probably like '97 or '98 when the school got like a bunch of computers and there was just like no filtering involved. So, you could just go to whatever your site you wanted to. And it wasn't until going to high school and they started filtering the internet. And I was just looking, I don't know why, hashtag nostalgia alert, but I was going back to old emails the other day, and I found all of these emails of me speaking to the IT department about certain, I think it was like it's one of the journal, like probably 2002 or 2003, one of those at like blogging sites. This is like even pre, it must have been like 2002, 'cause it was like pre me knowing about WordPress and stuff like that. And I was putting up a case for why they shouldn't be blocking it.. And I remember we used to just get into the biggest arguments because they blocked joshjansen.com.

Tommy: Oh, that's right. Geez. Imagine the discussion in the lunchroom of the teachers. Who the fuck is this kid? Wants his own domain.

Josh: Yeah. Well, the funny thing was—

Tommy: We gotta unblock this kid's domain. Are you fucking kidding me?

Josh: The teachers, I think, enjoyed it. The IT department hated it though, because I would go into doing all this research where basically I'd be like, hey, this is actually a better filtering provider, like you shouldn't be using this one, you should use that one. And these restrictions— the, the restrictions you've given us are actually overly restrictive. You don't need to be filtering this site and this site. And so yeah, it's, uh, it's funny seeing the long-winded emails that I used to send to the IT department.

Tommy: Anyway, you're a character, mate.

Josh: Yeah, it's a daily talk show. It's a daily talk show, everyone. One day we'll be living the dream. And now I want the dump— I want a dump button so I can just fucking filter us whenever I want. Be real. But one thing that I do want to get in the studio, it's not very expensive, I promise. It's a cough button. So basically it connects between the XLR and the mixer, and it goes next to the person where they're talking. So at any time they can hold it down and they can basically cough and there's no sound. What do you think of that?

Tommy: Or just cough off, just cough off mic.

Josh: Nah, nah, that's shit. The other thing that I saw, I was Googling all different options. One of the other ones which is interesting, there's a thing called a panic button and it's used for onstage performances. And what happens is it basically switches inputs So if you press the panic button and you're on stage and say you're singing, it will flick the input from being the main PA system to being a speaker in like the mixing, at the mixing desk. So say if something happens all of a sudden, you can press the button, talk into the exact same microphone, and it just goes to the person who's doing the mixing or the person that's in the bio box. I thought that was pretty cool.

Tommy: I didn't even know these things existed, so if I didn't have them, it wouldn't have mattered.

Josh: There we go. You're probably right. It's the daily talk Talk Show, everyone. Have a good one. Send us any emails, hi@thedailytalkshow.com. And it sounds like you're checking the PO Box, TJ, so the PO Box one last time is PO Box 400, Abbotsford, Victoria 3067.

Tommy: Have a good one.