- July 24, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday July 24 (Ep 136) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
How kids manipulate you, Tommy’s run-in with the police, a cracking word of the day and Josh goes viral thanks to a Russian model and her family
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jacket to daily Talk Show Episode 136 and my name is Josh Johnson and you don't normally talk like that but it's a the delay that's making me do that all the pizza the high amounts of pay to your ad it's it's the
it's the delay I feel like that were with me being on an island This is day two of us broadcasting from may not just being remote but being remote remote in the sense of being on a small island that it does feel a little bit like I am on the moon
anytime I'm doing some form of q amp a for now. So can you please give me an update of how much data because yesterday was eight gigabytes of data for the rest of the week do we have an app that
well now this is the problem. The the Vodafone which is what we're what we're using here they have a Vodafone app that you can keep track of all these things. Unfortunately the Vodafone app requires you to download it through the Italian App Store. So I draw the line at that I'm not going to the effort of getting either one like an iTunes gift card from Italy to set up my account or to open up an Italian bank account. So we don't know where we're, we're cow buying it at the highest level.
Good. You know, I love a good radio. And I'm currently on a bucking bull. So where I am right now is I left my office because it was raining heavily in the room is making a lot of noise. And I thought going against the car because then I can jet off straight after we finished the podcasts, pick up birdie and I've got into the car and it started pushing down 10 times harder. So I apologize if you can hear like a the pitter patter of a of the raindrops on the roof. But maybe you like that maybe it's just a part of
it. What's the pitter patter from the the raindrops for you? And it's the the more of a sort of a gushing sound for me because I'm next to the the hotel spa and they have a constant sort of strange but this is the perfect time it's like, what is it 777 o'clock in the morning. Something like that hearing in Italy. I should know the time I literally I have Melbourne time still on my computer. It's three 4:54pm in in Melbourne. And it's it's five minutes to five minutes to 8am. There's something about that though. Because I when I was traveling, I left Yeah,
I had my computer on Australian time. And it's something nice knowing the time back home
and it makes you feel like you've got more left your day or if you're just getting started. And you start thinking about everyone back at home. Oh, you know Tommy's probably putting back to the bed right now. Is is nice
isn't it? We like the world is really strange when you think about it like that. The the delay was so bad yesterday that we break his is giving me sort of a hard out in regards to when I need to have this podcast done. Because yesterday I spent half an hour 40 minutes after the podcast going through and removing the like three second silence every single time we'd finished
a sentence. So this time I'm trying to say what what it sounds like how shoot it sounds. If I die edit the the silence is so high. The Daily talk show.com if you have feedback. Is it really annoying? I don't know. But probably these we've got not much option. But Dude, I I was thinking before I'm so fucking pumped for you to be back and asked to have our podcasting studio. So if you are listening, hang on. Because Josh will be back. He's not just living in Europe for the rest of his existence. I might be back.
I'll be back.
Oh, we're actually doing something pretty exciting. We're meeting in Los Angeles. And I want to put it out there so that we make it happen. I'm it's around October. So you know, I'm actually gonna miss my mom's 70th birthday. And I and like, that's how, that's how much I appreciate it. I'm not there to film it. You're not there to film it. Who's going to be film? Well, she's not having a party. So I will be able to colder until I really love a grind. Happy 78th. And thanks for being mean to the world. But yeah, so we, you and I will be in LA doing the podcast for a whole week. And I'm fucking excited about that. But I'm also upset that
Oh, yeah. We'll get Matt Dave Ella Matt developer on the podcast. Who does the ground up show so in the meantime, if you haven't listened to the ground up show, he he interviews super interesting people. Matt made the documentary documentary minimalism, which is awesome. It's on Netflix. And he's also just a top blog. And the funniest story that I love when Matt tells it is when he got sued for like, $8 million
for making making a video about a company when he was like, yeah, to be different one you so yeah. When they
when they show you and you don't have a million bucks, sucked in
sucked in so Bodie, Bodie, on the stage where he's
actually it's amazing how kids manipulators from day one. And I don't think in like it, there's no malice involved when they're young. Because it's like it's about their wants. And if they want something until there is there an email us? Yeah, exactly. So Bodie from very young age is like you know he he wants to get up into your arms if it means that he will be able to get close to the light switch so I mean the manipulations very basic it's not manipulating for money purposes like adults motto relationships but nonetheless he he has manipulated me many times to get what he wants but I was thinking like this is such a link between that and as you get older and thinking that you can get away with stuff with all the people and what you say like and i don't think i mean yes it is lying but there's also the the just speaking stories to adults that you think that they just taking in and guy rk I believe that and I've done a lot of this in my life a lot when I was younger when I was that teenager
I think that there's a I thought where you're going with it was the obsession with lights which is because body's gonna go from turning the lights on to being a 50 year old telling all the kids to turn the lights off
by I called Bodie at the front door using the keys and trying to just put them into the crack of the door for a good 15 minutes night I go It was great I was just sitting on the couch and he was loving it starting interrupting but I was telling me this story the other day about it was a time that if I can pull the wool over well I thought I pulled the wool over some police officers eyes and and spun them this story that was ridiculous and I'll tell you I'll tell you the story and you tell me if it's ridiculous or not alright this involve the fuel my compadres i a giant who you know are met James and been to the other boys. Yeah, well, so my grandpa when he came back from the war he lived in this place called the chevron. The Chevron is this hotel. It was an old hotel, this big building on St Kilda road in Melbourne. And they used to be a nightclub underneath and funnily enough, I actually knew some of the bounces from the gym this like it had closed but they used to tell me is to work at the chevron it was a really rough nightclub next to the Alfred Hospital in Melbourne. And so for years, the chevron was just abandoned. So they close the hotel down and they close the nightclub and I reckon it would have been a good 10 years 12 years maybe more that there was nothing going on there so it had just become like Daryl lake and there was homeless people living in there and graffiti all over the walls of it and so we were like fact we have to go in there and investigate what's going on and so we ended up going and there was like a guy a fence around it so there was a guy that was open so clearly wasn't trespassing we just walked in if you leave the gate open not trespassing so we we ended up going into this Chevron building and we took a bunch of tools we had mag lots we had like a crowbar we had hammers not sure what we're going to do with it all but it made sense to carry all this equipment into this abandoned building and we explored this thing was like five levels was so much fun we were like kicking indoors pretending that we were like covert operation operatives writing a building and it was I mean, the, the dark side of it was a lot of heroin addicts. We were using it as like I was
gonna ask about that was so there were a lot of squatters and things like that.
Yeah, well, I mean, there was pretty much now when they were moved there a lot of the time and so on the walls there was this like creepy handwriting of these weird messages of people who are off their face and those like some rooms had like shit all over the grounds so there was that dark side but then there was this like old ballroom and you know like a massive disco ball up up in the ceiling like oh glasses steal from the nightclub and the bathrooms were you know some of them was quite well kept everything derelict I like that just just just aging anyway this one door we saw that was closed and we were doing this thing because we're playing a lot of computer games time and so my friends like all right
I'm gonna front kick the door and we get a ride the room like we're just having fun so my friend Frankie we all had live data right?
What does what was writing the room actually going to look like? Well, you can't we holding the hammers. We like, what's a ride? When you just a couple of dudes in a room,
we will holding the hammers. And it was just like, you know, how you say people like SWAT team have guns, and they're like, secure the perimeter. Or they go into a room like this is clear. And so I did this every Saturday morning, when I was when I had black cargo pants and a plastic gun as a kid. Yeah,
around the house, this was a little bit more real. I mean, still no guns involved. But we kicked in this dorm or my mate kicked in the door. And there was a guy in there. And we're like, fucking, we froze. And we clearly didn't have these things in our hands. Because our weapons because we shut ourselves and ran ended up running down into the nightclub. And this was like four stories out. And so we had to go down to the bottom floor. And as we're going down the stairs, we look out one of the windows to the back of the building and we saw cops coming into the building and so we're fucking shooting ourselves and so we ended up running down into the nightclub area and then nightclub area was like pitch black so we had a few torches we managed to get through one of the things this is why you don't explore all buildings because we worked out that we had been walking around a room that had a massive hole in the ground and we had just not seen it or walked in that area until we were running through with the torches so luckily we didn't fall into the the massive cavity that was on the dance floor if the hallway and get you the best us will anyway yeah yeah well I mean that's could still come years later but anyway we got to this point where it was like this
is good he's very morbid dark days but still taste good the 10 years that I have
it's currently playing and
I'm sorry there was this broken window and I was with maybe four of us and we had a bunch of tools and mag lights and crowbars and shit and so what we did was we didn't have time for all of us to get out and so we boosted up two of the people that were with us to get out this broken window and take all the tools because I like if they find us and axes with all this cheesy now backpack they gotta realize you got what the facts guy on here so anyway we got to the people out and then we ended up just walking out to the entrance where they were like the without coming in and we said we like gave ourselves up basically but before before I before we we gave ourselves up came up with an elaborate story which I thought they're going to totally believe it and the story was that we were at brand station and it was just mean these two other guys and all of a sudden these Oakley walks as a gang back then I'm not being insensitive I called themselves Wong's I
tell them that the Oakley walks chased us and we ran because they were they tried to roll us which was a big thing back then people were getting rolled for their mobile phones 3310 and I said you know ugly walks with chasing us and we ran down here and we came in this entrance because we saw it as a way to get away from them and they and so we told the cops this and all I remember is that they will they didn't tell us whether they believe it or not but though I all right well I guess you guys you gotta go You gotta get out of here to kind of come back and so in my mind who's maybe isn't and maybe there isn't an African gang problem at all maybe it's just little shits like you saying that these African gangs
chasing them into buildings maybe they don't maybe these African gangs that have been spoken about in Melbourne don't even exist maybe it's maybe it's completely created by the Tommy jacket of
just yeah we got chased who were they African gang i mean i mean we put the hopefully walks in it it's fact it is a good point good point so sorry for any Oakley was listening and throw you under the bus and he got us out but just an update that guy who that was in the building that we storm the room he ended up getting caught as well. And he was the one that got in more trouble because he had a backpack on him to with all these tools in it because he was looking for copper, the steel
looking for copper, the steel like what I didn't even know like, how old is this kid? And how much money you can you make off copper? Well, there is people who go copper hunting
like you can I think the other night you could look at right now How much do you get per kilogram per kilogram of copper. There's like a place that you can take it to scrap metal joint per kilogram of copper anyway,
I mean, you doing what you can, there was a bunch of in Rome, there was a bunch of build a lot of the buildings, they've got these sort of in dense where it sort of looks like there's just like big holes and what they're from. He's basically they
shouldn't go into history because, you know, I'm shocking, but basically, I think they used copper or some sort of metal within the buildings to keep them up. And then at some point, throughout the years, throughout the centuries, people have come in basically hammered out all of the metal because it was worth a bunch of money. And surprisingly, all the buildings are still actually intact. But yeah, when you say, I don't know, I think maybe the Was it the color same brazen? I don't know. I feel like there was a few. There's a few iconic sort of areas in Rome, where you will see when you see those holes a lot of the time. It's actually for that reason, rather than just sort of deteriorating, someone's gone through and
your mate with these backpacks just gone through getting all the copper Did you believe my story that the Oakley walks had chased us into this building
Yeah, absolutely. Which is really dark because it's different they would have definitely been an element of
that there's a ratio to it which is sort of you can look back in hindsight now and be like you know the the the Ozzie the good Ozzy larrikin, boys are being chased by the wall you know, like it's got a bit of that but now, I think it's very believable. Hundred percent. Yeah,
well, actually, yeah,
the thing is, like, what did that what were the cops gonna do anyway? Like, I find it interesting that that's where they were putting their time and energy maybe it was just because they knew that something was going to fall through the fucking floor.
Yeah, maybe. I mean, there's a few fine details that have left out that probably would incriminate me but it's all good.
It's all good. Well, let's do word of the day now, word of the day
were trialing what people might notice with being in this part of the world where the latency is pretty horrendous. We're having longer monologues. So if we don't interrupt each other, it's because not because we're not interested. It's because whenever we interrupt each other, it sort of ruins the fly. But one thing that I was just going to point out, TJ little hack for people, because I'm not going to edit this one. If you use pocket casts, or even I think overcast does this as well, I think it's called an overcast. Basically, there's a silence remove removing feature in the podcast app. So you can actually press the button. And it just gets rid of all the silences. So rather than just speeding up a podcast, it just gets rid of all of that. So people talk really quickly. But I feel like this would be a good use case for that feature, because there are those one second gaps between some bits of listening Anyway,
you and I have had many conversation. I'm digressing. We've had many conversations about you not liking pauses in conversation. So that's a perfect app for you.
Yeah, actually, that it's so true. And I'm so triggered by this ID. Because Tommy and I early, early episodes that probably the biggest pain point was, I would always I just wanted this certain cadence. I wanted this to be going Bang, bang, bang, bang. I didn't want there to be any sort of slow moments or silences. And this right now use forced forced silences. But when I'm telling you about my dog, I remember just
say, now you just got to go quickly into a zinger straight after the the dog story. But the actually what I was going to
I've just been thinking about when doing this show, I should we should get Hey, me, Sean. Again, at some point, you can tell this story. But I remember when Amish was doing one of these shows, it may have been business branch or something like that. He had a short stint in New York, which is actually doing again real real soon. But basically, when he was away, they use an ISP in line to do the show remotely. And initially it was going to be like, Oh, yeah, he's just in studio with ever. But when he got to New York, he realized how bad the
the quality of the is dn line was, where they just had to basically say Hi, Mrs. In New York. And it was like, I don't know if people big fans of Hamish and Andy will remember that she could hear the difference in the
quality. So that's what the only thing that's keeping me going is knowing how much respect we have for what the boys have done. Feels like this is just part of our part of our journey is having some episodes where we're remote and we we reply in this area. So I'm hundred percent.
All we've got to do. Hopefully we don't lose your audience.
Yeah, I think it'll be fine. Yeah, the hardcore fans hashtag super fans will keep on listening. And if you are listening, send us an email hot the daily talk show.com we we see people still, like still creeping up in the numbers were growing, which is awesome. But I wonder it's always good to know people downloading and then listening all the way through, or are they turning off? But word of the day, TJ Today's word is precarious. Can you describe what you think precarious means?
I'm God. This is. And we spoke about this as being one of the reasons why we wanted to do where the day was. Because half the time when you are in a conversation, you could probably use some of these words, but not truly understand the meaning. But you get that it's in the right context. And this is one of those ones that I've used. Yeah, precarious. So, it's, I've used it in a sentence, and I would you use it and
far, can't I know I've used it, but I can't even tell you right now. You're in when I've used to you so close. You're so close. I think I feel like I know that this is a journey that I want to explore. I think that you can put it in a sentence. Yeah. What areas like, what is it? When would you say just show just overseeing comes
to mind. I was navigating over some rocks precariously.
Okay, great, perfect. I think that that's a fair use so precariously an adjective one day, we'll do a whole episode on one adjectives one day, but until then, and not securely. How old or imposition dangerously likely to fall or collapse a precarious ladder. Yeah, it's dependent on chance. uncertain, he made a precarious living as a painter. I think you nailed it. Yeah.
Yeah, I did. It's like when Bodie climbed up onto the dinner table the other day, it was in a precarious time. precarious position. Yeah, like, I was like,
wait, ASL, it's great
to say, I don't care what they say. We are. We are better than we think. Right.
Now. This is, this is good. Hey, before, before we go. I wanted to talk about me going viral thing Why? What do you what do you know about the the going viral story what's what's your perspective on on,
all I know, is that you put up a photo, and it's all of these, these these family. I mean, all it is it's a it's affecting great photo, a family in a pool. And then there's obviously that their daughter or their friend. And they're all taking a photo on this one camera. And what I don't know, what you captured was something like supporting the, it's nice when the family supporting the Instagram lifestyle, or something like that.
Yeah, that's so basically with some where we're staying
Mustang on an island in Italy. But the, the hotel that we're staying at has a lot of, like, Europeans, bunch of Russians and stuff like that. So there's, it's awesome, because you get this real, you don't only get the cultural differences of, you know, the country that you're in. But we're getting the nuances that is the people who are staying where we're staying. And we're staying with, I'm talking quieter, because I'm next to the pole. But, and I saw them at breakfast. But basically, there's what I believe to be a Russian family. And the doors within that family must be considered the hardest thing
ever sort of created, because they have been taking so many photos of her in different positions. So like in the pool, they did a big photo shoot online, like just to find, and then I was watching them having dinner, and she was like, should do a photo of her holding a glass and then should do one like, then they'll walk that move positions, and then she'd be next to a tray that should be next to the sunset. Like it's full on. So anyway, I was looking outside our balcony and I saw the the girl in one pole. And then the dad and the mom was in the spa from a distance. Like taking a photo of her sort of leaning over centrally anyway, the brother initially who I believe to be the brother was sort of walking in front of the shot, and all that sort of thing. And just sort of being a little bit of a smartass. Like it was over. But then he got right involved. And he was like, he realized that if he's gonna want to be in the family, he's got a pays sister some attention. And so he has gone over and he's leaning on his mom and dad looking at the the fire screen as they're taking a photo. So I've got this photo over this family in there. Baylor's all sort of huddled around the sun, sort of hugging the parents as they're taking a photo of their daughter in a bikini and I put the you couldn't really say their faces. It felt like it was a decent enough photo that didn't feel like it was some sort of public shaming. And I said something along the lines of you know, when your family use supportive of your Instagram modeling career. And at the time when you and I have a big Instagram post one that we're really proud of. We talked about it, I said, TJ I wasn't messaging you I'm on my holiday and messaging, you might might this is going to blow up I can tell I'm going to get over it. You know, the most likes have ever gotten. Got another post. And so that's where it left that was on I think Sunday night, which is if anyone doesn't know, a Sunday night optimum time, you'll you'll hear the best way announcements and sort of
on a Sunday. That's when people are dropping the big news for the highest amount of engagement. And it did very well. And then I woke up Monday morning having breakfast and I say brown cardigan, which is like the fuck Jerry of Australia posted the photo and it's got thousands and thousands of likes. So I've basically retired as a content creator feeling good about myself. And so looking around breakfast, you know, in the mornings hotel thinking, if only everyone knew the sort of exposure that I've given this place,
then they mean she's getting no followers, I really want you to dig deep, and try and see if you can find her account. And then we can see I mean, you might be the one that's like shame up there. One is laughing she might have 7 million Russian followers, and she's actually getting paid to be there. And you're a sucker who's paying debate that hotel so the tables might be switched, and you've actually got more exposure and she's just made a lot more money,
I really hope that she is actually getting paid because it's it's a lot of work. But that's the one thing that I have been thinking about with this trip is at the beginning beginning of the trip, I was sort of obsessed about not being a tourist. And now my concern has moved from not worrying about being a tourist. But worrying about being a good traveler. And I wondered with what she's doing is she being a good traveler, and I know that like in the last few days is where on a relaxing Island, I've spent a bunch of time I paid for the Master class.com subscription. So I have access to all their master classes. And I'm watching
the videos on Malcolm Gladwell, the author talking about writing, and just don't delving down that. And I do have moments where I'm like, maybe if you're on an island in summer, you shouldn't be in your hotel room, watching Malcolm Gladwell tell you how to develop a story. Yeah,
what's your vibe? What's your feedback to me know, I'm, I'm the guy on your shoulder that is saying that same thing, get out there and explore. But I think I think travel is unique for everybody. And it's up to you what you want to do with it. I mean, this might be her version of fun getting the family around, and you know, bikini in the pool. And she might be the one who's nailing her version of holiday.
Yeah, I have version it's so true. Because like one LC when I will see you actually going to do my cam like, what's the alternative, just like being in the poem that she's getting some content, just having some fun. I've it's definitely a mix. Like yesterday
brand. I would like we had a really chill one. I sort of spent a lot more time in the sun than I like spending and but then at the end of the day, I was like, You know what, like, we were sort of getting ready just to sort of chill out, chill out for the evening. And I was like, actually, let's just go out and explore. So we went and found a bar, and we had a pinnacle, pina colada couple of pina coladas. And
do not see anybody over there.
Is that not
I don't know if they they it's probably good. I'm probably pronouncing pronouncing my words pronouncing pronounce. Why do some people say pronouncing samples I pronouncing? Isn't that ironic, don't you think? I've never met anyone who says
that the way that you said is
pronounced ripple, you have to say pronunciation
different than anyone. It's an standard. Alright, we're live there. Josh has gone viral. That's the name of the episode. Hi at the daily talk. show.com. If you've listened this far, we love you.
Yeah, thank you. So I know we really do love you and it's got we're very excited like this. Even though this this does have the little bit of hardness in regards to effort and the you know, the amount of effort that you put in versus the quality that's coming out maybe isn't completely aligned. We like I am more excited than ever the more that we do this about what's to come and Episode 500 and 1015 hundred and Episode 10,000. That's that's what I'm excited about. Anyway, I've gone too grandiose, but it's a daily
high at the daily talk. show.com probably I think was Episode 150.
Could you imagine that'd be a good trade. Maybe we maybe you could get one in our life. Maybe.
If I organize an LA tattooist. We couldn't do that. Maybe you could get a maybe you could get Sandra, Sally's name tattooed for Episode 200. That could be an Australian anyway, the daily talk show. Have a good one, everyone.