#095 – House sitting/
- May 28, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Monday May 28 (Ep 95) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
The struggle of moving, bad customer service and looking after a dog.
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It's a daily talk show. I'm Josh Johnson. I'm telling me jacket. And this is a conversation sometimes with recording Episode 95 far out.
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We're in an OS half. Yeah,
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I'm sitting. Yeah it's better than you pass one I'll just say that you know, maybe this was designed for a larger family yeah four bedroom does the trip feel
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like it's a lot closer? And it's reality is really setting in for you. Yeah
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I mean for people who don't know in a month's time bring in I head off to Europe for three months and so it's worked out well breeze old boss, she was going away. And because Barry was very trusted and rec day and all of that good stuff. To be honest.
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If there's anyone that would in my immediate friendship group, it's spray who would look after my house because I know she would cave it exactly how I left it. Yeah, she gets some funny look either. That means she's gonna trash this joint. Or I don't think she's happy. How you sitting on the couch? I think that's what it is. Can I tell you when I and I'll a girlfriend of mine. years ago, I was at her RTS house for Christmas.
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Do you remember the nudie Jane's? Yeah,
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I still remember they're on Yeah,
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they just chapel strange to drop tracking $250 on a pair. I'm just more of a tight ass now. So I haven't bought new DJ whether these
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ones coast
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I got these are I got these for maybe 100 bucks. I don't really want any more than 110. a stretchy. Yes. Cool. Yeah. These a stretchy and every person still paid 100 bucks. Anyway, I had these ones that were like blue. And if you remember nudie Jane's they like. they reap. Sorry. Sorry. They they die like skin. Yeah, because you're not meant to Washington straightaway. Some some fashion bad Brie. And you can't go on white couches and what sort of thing oh, wait on a fucking white couch. You know, my ex girlfriends. And he's plays and I go to up because we're sitting on a white cast right now. And I got up and I was like, look down
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box set back into the resistance to
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what I've done. I'm going to dive in.
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And I started trying to like what, like, rub it off. And it was just smashing it. It was it was pretty fact it was a leather white couch. So it was just like, it would look like ink stains or something. Like like
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painting.
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Here's the thing. It wasn't like it didn't look like a include. Just splattered. Yeah, it was like this. This dusting of blue over the whole fucking the bottom bit of the couch.
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Surely that would happen a lot. Like if you're gonna have a white couch and it'd be prepared for my dog
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for not saying something
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Oh,
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I felt awkward I'm not with her anymore so is it has been it doesn't matter doesn't if that happened at my watch house.
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You know? I mean, you feel so you're okay.
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I would say something I think now is a dog as a kid the well so we spent the weekend moving y'all can tell
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Tommy said that. He looked up at my forehead. Yeah, it's
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easy. You've a massive first thing. I'm concerned that it's going to scar Yes, you've got it. That's a fucking gash dude
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yeah I got
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any any bleeding from your forehead is not good. Yeah.
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And so I am
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probably 4pm yesterday was a will loading stuff into the van that we rented from bindings and why we're forth and I looked down at my notifications on my phone I had an Instagram notification someone did it cry face it a joke I made and I see mashed my head into the van door so you're walking towards the yeah and the van was open the back door was hoping and because I'd sort of reversed even to a spot it was angled down so it was why lower than it had to be and it basically new slots Madoff Grey's laughing will be basically like she was like nearly crying she was like more emotional about it than I was because I think she thought that I just I'd like doesn't knock myself out with wasn't good.
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And it was a
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lot of blood pouring from if it's just, like, just bubbled up like, it's sort of like, got an egg on my head. And it was bleeding a bit. Yeah. Was
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it dripping down? Yeah,
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I got a phone. I'll post it on Insta stories. She is I sort of did this progress photos but yeah, this was in it's sort of chemical Is it is it is a little drip of blood going down. That's for Londo yeah so that was an idea but the whole thing just moving Are you a good move
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if you're a good move your psychopaths
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Are you breeze dad's a good move
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naughty he's very he's very good at not know what
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I mean. Why would you want to aspire to be a good move? If Yeah, and I breezed that just didn't I think he doesn't think much of me when he I think he thinks I'm a bit of a hashtag soy because that was him that was a new YouTube channel partner because he he was asking brace like are do you think she's gonna be able to drive the van Sure. It was it stick shift now. But I could do that I could drive manual might have driven in the US after if and all sorts of things. And the van was easy. It was fine driving around and all of them. We had a soy latte and you
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know, but you know the annoying the annoying thing about this move? Yeah,
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we've deconstructed why it was was such a sheet move
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because other moves that you've done haven't finished yet.
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Yes. Well, maybe maybe you just forget. Sorry about the noise in the background. If you can hear a breeze making her breakfast for tomorrow that's fine Bray. Do what you gotta do it through the stress of having a soy look after you. This is a light this is a light when everyone suddenly 9pm on Monday. So you'll be getting this one later in the evening and normal but no I am I realized the reason that this move was substantially more stressful and worse was because we weren't moving into another place true well this is why I said as it hits you come in the door of the
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event
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yeah it's I think you're homeless yeah we essentially homeless I'm I'm a nice house now the best sort of high machine could be
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Have you broken into
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the squatting day here at 930 so we need it now. So yeah, yeah,
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the the move and the other thing too was we had my mate Chris helping us with moving stuff and pretty wasn't happy because on Saturday I hadn't packed everything yet so it was like we had people to help lift stuff but I was literally still working out what you put into boxes. Your last minute Larry did you do are you good at like putting things into boxes? Okay, saying the last move Yeah,
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but hang on. The last move was from their last real big move. Actually Noah's last move was from Sydney to Melbourne and you know what i did chuffed everything now I drove down to Melbourne Amy sort of that because it was like two weeks later we had a whole bunch of boxes hired because it was like I couldn't pick up the house because it was too much of time between when I was gone and when the the van came so an actually helped but she actually he's amazing at it
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Bray you're amazing and she's looking for validation yeah brew was really good to see to be to be clear Bray was amazing because she did her packing up yeah and then any communal staff she packed up so all I had to pack up was my stuff
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you're admitting you compute a cool yeah
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Do you know how many USB
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to bring something up so you dropped over last night we still have the bonding van a shelf shelving unit you've taken it upon is a big based of a thing well we had it was a couple hundred bucks
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yeah we bought it when I sort of moved into the home office might decide to suddenly my office when we decide we're going to do the big move so it was like we got a good five months out of it was couple hundred bucks
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and brand new is one of those scenes that holds little boxes in them your IKEA awesome it's like anyway it's awesome but you bro I've last night and it was fully taken apart and having couldn't think of anything more annoying than having to put it back together
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well that's why we It was so close to going to harm rubbish so
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anyway I put I took the bits and pieces into bodies' room where was going to get together and I liked it I liked one piece down the ground and I've realized that I actually don't know if I can put it together in bodies room because it's too small will get like you've got it now so what's your I'm okay with having it by UK Are you okay with me selling it? Yeah let's just do it so I can make money from it sure
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did happen. I gave a friend a
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quad lot case
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that that's dog
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act. He said. He's my car. Man. You sound like me on Facebook marketplace? Might. What have you sold is like I quite like case.
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Okay. That's really good. The one that I gave you, like three weeks ago. But it was it was a used one. It was my meeting together the box and look at it. Yes. it and put it back in the 90s. He was updating us. He was upgrading. He's fine. So I want you used it. Yeah, exactly. So it's been
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selling it got it for free. And it was a something to say something. You got him brand new in a box. Yeah,
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I think it's slightly different. But the the van stuff became a bit of a not a disaster. What fucking happen? Well, the experience after it. So we we ended up extending we were going to return it back on Sunday. And we
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we did it Friday,
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Saturday morning, Saturday morning. And what are they What are they singing a day
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once you include insurance and all that sort of thing. And think it's about 130 is a brain 130. Yeah,
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130 plus the extra 10 bucks for the extra driver embrace type was an extra Gianna driver, just in case soy couldn't couldn't work in
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the UK as he walked into the van. And yeah,
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so we that was all fine. And then we we ended up extending it next should die. So it ends up costing 200 and something box and there was a guy so basically, I'm still a bit frazzled about this. We had to return it by 9am
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this morning. And so I ended up taking annual leave day because we had to the cleaners
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canceled on us yesterday as well. So meant to have cleaners and you chose the expense, you know, so this was the thing I said to say Bray said have canceled on us I'm like well you know what I'm like this is awesome because we went with the expensive ones and that was sort of a real estate agent so we can just tell the real estate agent hi yes
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yeah, you fucked up because you've recommended embrace it No You told me to go for the one that was 390 well our can save brain has been listening to a podcast we talked about this and on our podcast I'm pretty sure we will lie
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the expensive was it this is the thing I I am.
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What did what did she say? It was confirmed before we spoke about so just as I wasn't listening so yeah, we ended up because what happened was the people called up we'll get to the bindings bit in a second but let's finish this cleaning one the they said they called us or they texted initially said hey, we're gonna have to do it tomorrow. Because the people who were currently cleaning their place they won't pay us now. So we have to stay there until we get paid. Which isn't a good sign and Mexican standoff. Yeah, but also not a good sign when someone's don't want to wanting to pay anyway. So Burgess called up and said, hey, look, we need it done today. And she said otherwise we'll have to cancel because we can't do it tomorrow we'll have to cancel and we're going to leave you bad Google right oh my gosh. me he's like okay
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embrace head we're gonna give you bad Google right? And he said okay.
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He said well, you put us in a real
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difficult spot he said yes I know I'm sorry. Okay cool God so we just we ended up a lot the tactic it really fell flat with a guy who's
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we have a depressed Well, we haven't done the Google writing yet. Now.
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Don't do a good variety. You can't You can't do that one. Not
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the guy he had a level of with we're pleased to share. Well, I'm pretty but I just I feel like he was bullshitting. I feel like anyway, but give him the benefit of the doubt. Because this is a whopper of a story. The arrive at bindings Yeah. quarter to nine Hawthorne banning 16 minutes to go. Yep. Beautiful. We arrived. And there's a sign saying sorry about mass
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close by stores include calling word and Box Hill, right. And what they were doing was they were doing renovations on their service desk area. And this is where the van rental stuff normally happens. This is where I picked it up from
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lazy God. Yes. Yeah.
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Okay. And so the guy at the door I said to him, Hey, I'm just here to drop off a rental van. He said, I'll just go see that guy over there. His name's Michael he's just in the tool section. And Michael sort of using a box of tools as a sort of a desk and he's got like one of those small barcode type devices that would look like you would scan sort of to do visual visual merchandising or whatever anyway I went up and I sort of jokingly said has Hi I'm just so I'm just here to return a van hopefully it's not too much of an issue with not having the desk
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he's like
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and I was like oh sorry he's gone that's the there's meant to be another guy he doing it he's not here so I'm gonna have to look after it I said okay it goes if you got the key I was like yeah so he grabs a K off me and just started walking away you know when someone walks away so that likes to the follow like the way they're going I followed him basically to the to the front area and then he kept going and so I just sort of wide the next to the door guy
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was whining find five minutes another person from banks came up to went to go help me in the door Gaga said on Michaels looking after him anyway so I'm officially he said that it's almost nine o'clock yeah so like we saw I'm waiting there patiently I think that this point I'm like the guy is stressed but I'm being as nice as I can about it. I'm like not in circulation you're getting from your Uber driver exactly
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incident a couple weeks ago
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where you know where I'd scold him on mindset but no so I am sorry my finally he comes back and I am I will walk up behind him and he goes over to the the desk that where there's construction going on and turning on the computer yeah and he's um he's huffing and puffing and you sort of on the computer this time breeze met me and she's waiting there to she was getting some lights and I just said to him I like is Jeannie my paperwork he said what I need from you right now with some patients on okay I said I'm trying to where we're going to print this because we don't have a printer like okay so whining and anyway it's it's a getting very close nearly nine o'clock the timing doesn't actually the timing doesn't really play a huge shift to and the minute they know my age age it's 59 know so Wi Fi so basically you know it was it gets nine o'clock and he's still working on it and he then takes the the stuff like the form I gave him a lot so I think to the cash cashier area there was a lady named sue them and he said so we just a charge out this this this van and he's
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and she starts typing things in he goes no you're gonna have to you have to optimize it you can't just put it in a full amount he's micromanaging. Yeah and so anyway he said we're not gonna be able to I'm going to be back he starts walking off I said Do you know how is it something that I said you know how long it's gonna be Is it something that we can just go and have it all processed with you guys while we're gone
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What are you saying that moment Bray Oh no,
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I can't me he but he basically he said he said no you have to wait here and then I said
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I last last month last a little bit
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because I was pissed off because of how he's speaking to to so until he said
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he goes no and it like we don't have a desk right now. I said Michael I don't have anything to do with the desk. The only person that has a job right now he is you and it's to provide good customer service I'm yelling at this point everyone's looking
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I said Your job is to provide good customer service and you need to change your time
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What does he say answer so he walks up you guys What did he say? Break he said I said I'm not being rude he's yelling at me back we're in the store being was yelling yelling I'm
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not being rude
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yelling so then he will off and I'm getting real fucking angry at this point how it's going and I said we're going to be bringing this like we're going to be speaking to customer service about this this is just not on how I said to service it how we spoken to you how he spoke intimate song and I got the vibe there are others just what Michaels like he's just she said, Yeah, he does get stray dogs get stressed was it was like us. It's not on any. Anyway. So I ended up he came back in a few minutes slider. And you sort of told so what to do. It was almost like everything was going through. So now he he was standing next to me as I just get him to pay now
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bypass anyway. So we left and then I called up bindings. Victoria. He's died. Yeah, it's spoke to Jess on the phone and explained the whole thing. And what did just have to she said, I'll look will um, she said we will. We're going to speak to Michael make sure he's okay. Sort of like, hang on a second St. Michael's. I know, this isn't I'm not worried about with a Michaels. Okay, I want you to fire my toe. Don't make sure he's okay. Maybe. Maybe make sure he's okay. On the way out when he's no longer there. And so I said. So after she said that. I said, I'll look.
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I've never had an experience like this life. This is really bad. Unless you remember if which which, which wasn't bad, by the way. But I said can I I would actually like a call back with a resolution of what you've actually done. I she said I can, you know, get
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someone from the store to call you. So I got a call today like this afternoon from a guy named Raj, Raj, Raj, Raj first asked me to tell the whole story again,
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oh, and
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Tina beaky during the lunch room I don't know if Michael
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was laughing his head off all your while they're on mute no sorry the ceramic gets me to tell he said yeah that's not service that
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that both of money jazz that offers he said look at Josh do what I want you to do is next time you're in so he goes a local Decameron much I might not normally go to the Collingwood one he said well I'm next time you come in I really hope you do come back he said I want you to ask for Raj and I want to show you around bindings
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I've seen your ads lowest process it just the beginning
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well that's not have changed the head to lowest prices that sale policy which is which is
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then Michael pops in both fact sheet
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that sample and Michael's not here anymore No Yes happy with that resolution wow there's a part of it which is like you know what? So one of the things I was gonna say to Jess the first person I spoke to on the phone was I was gonna say I'm going to be coming into the store again to pick some stuff up later and it'd be great if Michael wasn't
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just you lost
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power hungry just to make sure that well cuz he could you imagine if if a customer had a fight with your employee in the customer then said hey I'm gonna be back oh hands on deck a mom like everyone's on standby right but um. No so I thought maybe I take Raj up on the offer as part of me which is like good episode of The Daily talk show
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live from bindings tour of bindings. I wonder what but what was I mean possibly do i mean you go around bands? I've spent a lot of time and they just walking around myself.
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What what's what's he gonna you get you on a forklift or break. The funny thing is, when I was printing the complaint, Bray was also annoyed that she asked a girl What 60 degrees meant on the line globes said 60 degrees. She didn't know what it meant. And the girl said on what she cyber a
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I can google it is what the girls had embrace it on. Well, that's something I can do myself which is there you
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know what this movie's done turned you to into real fucking ourselves
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projecting and everyone was actually really sweet it was this I said to Bray I'm like I don't think Joshua's can cast
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yeah he did seven soy soy
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I was on I was when I was on the phone to jazz brands in the in the background say down the path of light collide
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bring balance back up I
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still on the bunny bring them back up is in spirits a bit know when I when I went to bindings to build the hook for the bike video the boys were getting around and they helped me find the rope they tied the knot for the hook and they were impressed by the video I actually do you know what there is a guy named Andy who works at Collingwood banning
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dreadlocks now now sort of long should probably up to about he looks like a game that looks like games
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and he used to be he was in the port Melbourne one a lot apparently he was telling me be moved from like a regional regional store and what I loved about him was he had he was saying how much he hated it the Collingwood one but the funny thing was he had all these badges yeah yeah like the pins and they were all like awarded for different things I'm like oh man he got so many it looks sick is like yeah the manager gets real pissed off when I where I'm also aware of every day
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so So Andy from calling what is a legend Michael having a having a bad day
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just a one day Yeah. And
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I was empathic like I was empathetic initially I was like lot like you know having a smile all that sort of thing but i just
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i got over it at the end. Yeah, I've also we've got Archie the dog what's braise it What's wrong he was also Bray ones I mentioned that she was Michael was also rude to prey on the phone. And when we when she extended the extra die, he couldn't work out and how to not charge for the extra driver. So he ended up charging the extra 10 and it looked a breeze game. Just to be pedantic, but I don't think that necessarily matters. Yeah,
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the facial expressions priceless. that are coming from Bri as you say these these con con words. You can say dog dog is the dog making noise. You know what being in a house like this has a vibe when I walked in, maybe think of a party that I went to an AR 15 I was I went to a private school so the kids that went to the school all grew up in affluent areas and this one house party in nice suburb of Albert Park in Melbourne.
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We went to it and sure enough, it was a girl who was looking after a family friends house and we had to go through the drawers next to the bed we just wanted to have a look through the cupboards and stuff just saying what was the what was about yeah well
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you counter that big dawn
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we open up the door the the bedside tables and we found these condos that were so small that would like miniature condoms they'll like probably hard to even half of a small condom that you can buy their opinions but this is what we will convince to this day just had a small dig and then
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then we found no they weren't water balloons that were condoms we took them out out of the packet that like literally the saucy a little finger
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yes kids a joke Yeah,
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find out we never found out but we ended up finding a match box full of Wade and we took the Wade so naughty. We stole this guy's a weed and we ended up having to give we had a by Wade and give it back to them because we took it and it's fine to replace the way to replace them. Wade and so when I walked into this house it like kind of smelled a bit like the house it just brought back memories had the Viacom I found the dude with small dicks condoms and a packet of
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thing away the dogs going mad I had she's making a lot of noise you know so we're we're part of the deal with the house sitting is the babysitting of the dog
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yeah be job taking a dog
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is a big fucking job yeah
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well it's um. Can I just say we've told each other we're gonna swear less on this episode yeah yeah you've said Fox so many times that's okay it doesn't matter it's really funny Amish on that the butter to advocate podcast Hamish play Amish like to drive yeah on the latest one and he says count
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and he feels like it's a bit of a setup because they would dropping this a bomb a bunch before the show and then in the show he's just sort of came out and then he's like it wasn't really a thing he felt the sting of saying it without the right
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ways a guy who's on commercial radio is a nice way
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sheets even a bit too. Boo for them. Yeah, in the drive time slot it's outrageous. You wouldn't ever say our sheet yeah that's awesome. Yeah, but no so I've been looking after the dog some of the quirks of the dog it sheets How annoying shooting my it's a it's a Labrador that's got a lot of hair around the US region we'd have to wipe the dog's ass now but that's what happens to you never had a dog let's Harry have you know far I've had a dog that big before what
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as a pet yeah and
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the thing fucking nice to eight plastic bags on know you had to pull them out it's on
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oh no so actually happened with my own dog when I was a kid I balloons colorful and that was you
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the dinner what the most disgusting thing was like so I've had to pick up the sheet and also on the footpath yeah so we started off our first iteration was we had a poop scoop type thing and a bag and then when he should for the first time we ship we didn't have anything because we didn't wasn't when expecting already so Bray had to walk back and I stayed with Archie protecting, protecting the just sort of like circling the shit so no one stood out like sort of. I felt like one of those like lollipop. People just been like slow down yeah.
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And just pass so anyway, measure of Makkah, walk
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right through, right through. Come on, right through. Just close your eyes by No. Yeah, you'll be fine. And so yeah,
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the problem was that using the scoop that was just like those. This one last bit. I just couldn't get a sound like pushing it just further and further along the ground. I was like, you know, what if I was a celebrity, and I was getting pepper on seed now, you'd be so degrading to so true. I
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reckon this probably isn't a version to take your dog for a walk. If you're a celeb. Yeah, because you don't want to shooting in an awkward photo. It's nothing wrong with it. But when you got 70 camera that but there's some and
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I did feel like it really put me in my place. Clean up the dogs. Yeah,
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just like okay, yeah,
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I'm not back to a good fit. I'm doing this. And so the next time around, I decided because once the should happen that we had a shitty shovel, like a little shovel thing. And we're going to get coffee so that we can can't just, we can't get rid of the bag if this shitty shovels in the bag. So we we ended up I ended up finding a little sort of garden bed and just put the shovel in that heat that that's a good move. So that worked out well. But the next time I decided I'll just use a bag and do the inverse, treat it like a glove and get up and
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it is the most revolting feeling because it's so hot
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in the temperature. It's come out of a dog's body. I know. I know. I've done it. I've I can picture it. Mike, if
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they could come up with a dog dog that didn't ship because the thing is, I love Archie. It's I'm having so much fun but just that idea that I don't want to take him out because like what I've been trying to encourage them to do is shoot on the front look like inside the premises it's an old dog night you can't teach it new tricks you do realize why they trying I've been trying that so we got told that he's got anxiety right yeah and so he doesn't like when you sort of Swan straight not too far enrichment not too far from there. But he doesn't like the main streets I was like, surely this can't be that bad. So we're walking along. I'm on Lenox straight in Richmond about 100 meters from swan. He just stops he's done doesn't want to go. He can not like you. I'm pulling him. I'm trying to pull him and he wasn't good. So anyway, I ended up just walking back the other way. That was fine. But I wanted to go on Swan straight. So I end up going down to the next sign straight. And on that side straight. He was walking along and we gone to swan. The problem was, he was like pulling me so hot. And I was just trying to act calm and just hold it but he was choking himself. So it started off on you know, with the dogs like run it's like fine at the beginning. But this point is that he and like, I'm going to pass a cafe of all these people drinking their lattes and I've just got like RG like trying as hard as he can to hurt himself in front of these guys. And so I look like this ass also, never again. Never just one straight. Never again.
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So funny. The thought of dogs sheet and I like cringe. But then you know the amount of times I've got sheet on my finger from Bodie, but it doesn't seem as bad as I know. It seems as bad to you for any. Yeah, there it is. You just have this whole thing. I mean, not everyone would experiences but have your own kids ship is completely it's like your own. Don't tell me. I'm gonna be shooting your hand once or twice. Yeah, absolutely.
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It was saying no, this is disgusting.
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But he's
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got any thoughts on the Yes, Friday's episode. Oh, yes. good conversation to have any. Like Michelle has sent us a bunch of rating on unconscious bias. Yeah,
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that link fucking was meant to send something Cinder email back the link that she sent in work. It's because
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I think the last little bit didn't work isolated. not connected
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that up at work. I don't know. Anyway, interesting concepts around interesting discussion around unconscious bias. And the
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thinker girls who we spoke about on Friday that day, came out with an article on Mamma mia talking all about
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women, right? Yeah. And so very topical. And it was and the radio
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you blogs are writing about it, and the same commenters are getting involved. Yes. So it's,
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but you have to listen and let us know. Yeah, it was,
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uh, I always feel we're in after those ones. Feels always a bit clunky. But I feel like they good to have those conversations. What day What? What feels clunky? Well, it's like, it feels like these ideas that we're still developing as people and we're cementing them through the form of audio. So people will come back in a year's time. It's like me saying soy. People will say, Oh, that's eventually going to become some real taboo thing. Am I going to have said that every, you know, put it to good use before you until then taken another for PC? Yeah,
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I think Yeah, they are. They are clunky, but that you are cementing your thoughts exactly what you said. It's, but it takes it takes a conversation and challenge and saying even something that you then later look back on site. That's not maybe what I totally think now. But you had to say it's like learning everyone learns differently. You learn by stuffing Apple, you learn by committing to the wave and falling off and getting back up. It sounds like a similar thing to conversation. I think people are pretty scared to have conversations now in a platform like a podcast. So recorded space because it they say it cements it. But if you mind can change and you can you can think will develop so
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much. Yeah, I listened to a podcast that I hadn't listened to in a couple of years. That was so ship of all sort of an average person who was, you know, in a specific industry that was creating podcast for their industry. And it was so like it, they just weren't good talent. And I listened to them this week. And they sounded so good. So interesting is a new podcast that they know. So that Yeah, so they that had this podcast for the den like over 100 episodes of a podcast. And I listened to some of the early tie ones by the episode 50 or whatever, just picked it up again, just like, Oh, I can't believe they still doing this thing that was so she had it and I listened to them like they will like flawless. That's so good. I won't say who it was. Because I just shoot candid at the beginning. But it's
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really say, guiding me how she can step back. Because I'm sure I'm sure I was there on the sidelines.
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So it was it was allowing us all the time. But night sounding is I think that the key is that you need timing, like just continuing to do things
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better and better, even at having clunky conversations. Always having opinions.
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Having those mean having those concrete conversations means that we get better about without the conversation. Yeah,
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I mean, that's the trick of at talking about unconscious bias is you're talking about something unconscious. Yeah. So you can thinking that, you know, yeah, interesting to see. You don't fucking know. It's very confusing. But the topic is good to open your eyes to
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Yeah, even if you got no idea tease for upcoming episodes. Confirmed. The voiceover artist in London. I was telling you about had him voice some stuff for me a couple of years ago. And he's a he does stuff like games, films, TV, radio says, like, full time shtick. What excited me about him was that he can do a shitload of accents. Yeah,
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you can do like 100 accents on fucking terrible at x here. Well, this
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