#091 – Punching darts/
- May 22, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday May 22 (Ep 91) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Margarita pizza with bacon bits, talking about people and getting high.
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It's the daily talk show. I'm Josh Johnson told me jacket and this is the conversation sometimes worth recording TJ it's Episode 91 yeah but yeah
it feels like a while since as it's being You and I are chatting yeah well we chat all the time but when we turn on the markets a different vibe I mean I usually have an English accent
that's my real and I do think you put on your voice Do you get critiqued on for many one sign you Sam different when you turn the knob not on a podcast
remember hearing we did an earlier episode and we'll probably do it again is play some stuff from shepherd and yeah when I was 2425 your full cringe I do I mean yeah we create I created at my past constantly yeah
I can't believe you don't cringe at your password you just basking effective. I do enjoy. This is a body wash. The funny thing is that I know how we have this field that we've sort of stay stagnant or that we haven't changed. It wasn't until I listened to yesterday's episode. And our fact
if your brother's listening, yeah, he'd be upset with your vets. Don't do it. I agree with you. I'm on your side, James.
But to be clear, it's not when I was listening to it. Because I haven't listened in the last 90 odd episodes. I've listened to maybe three. And it didn't make me think I'm like I'm and I need to fix the compresses. Because it's all through me. It's a bit like I noticed a bit if anyone's listening and like with a good speaker system, and they've got a fair bit of sort of base if we're a boom boom will be catching. So as
long as this is you're
making formal apology, I'll explain exactly he talked about the podcast is it's a formal apology and a reflection on the fact that we are we do improve. And even though because I felt like I would have to listen to every app to actually improve, but I feel like just having the conversations I had a meeting this morning. Yeah. And
I had thought about it previously, before going into it.
And it was thinking about how to talk about money. It's something that people skirt around. It makes people uncomfortable talking about how much they're going to get paid, or how much are they going to charge? Or how much something costs? It's a fascinating thing, how money just adds a completely new element into any conversation. Yeah,
and I am was it who was it? Was it a client supply? What was the relationship with Yeah,
I'd say client, it was trying to charge them for something. Well, see, here's the thing. I wasn't sure because it was like, Let's catch up, talk about this opportunity. But in my mind, it was never clear about the monetary gain on my side from that opportunity. And the opportunity would take effort from me, I'm being very I'm not talking about it, because I fucking I haven't taken on this thing, or I haven't. And it is a bit secretive, not word. It's a bit confidential in terms of what I'm dealing with Fiat loves Maggie talking about this makes it sound like you do as
good as the local pizza shop. One of the video
they're actually adding little bacon bits to their Margarita pizza. And I haven't announced it.
I've got lots of friends that are in TV. And they say like, they're always like, Look confidentially, it's like they love playing in that space of talking about the things that are potentially guy on which you can't talk in a lot of cases. You can't talk about it. JACK being a good example. He'd been it was going to London
and not being able to tell people why was going and all that sort of thing. Had it under wraps.
I appreciate jack jack. The way he dealt with it. Because we even caught out with him and had lunch. And he was just like, he's like, I can't just talk about it. This
is a guy that was like, months and months before he went to London. Yeah, yeah.
And because you could you could treat it and talk about in a way that makes you same beer. And it's like this thing. Yeah. And so I'm not trying to do that. Because it's nothing that big. But my takeaway was, I want run
with bacon. I talk. I ended up just going, Okay. I'm just gonna be really upfront. So I said,
You didn't say that, though? Did you know I said, I need to make money. Okay. Yeah, that's one of the things my priority at the moment is making money. Uh huh. And so I lead with that, and I think about the conversation I had. And I was like, it's so fascinating because I think people are worried that maybe came up in May, that
that you sort of ruffled feathers by saying, you want money, or it's or it's making you seem like you're only in it for the money. Yeah, but the reality is, I've got shit going on. And I need to be remunerated for my time. And that is with money. Yeah.
And so I thought, yeah, just go lead with that. Well, I think that what I've, I have done with projects that I want to do it for a friend or someone that I like, I'll basically say, like, Hi, this is how much I'll charge you. And it's really just so that I don't feel guilty about saying no to other projects, you are basically you still buying my time. Whereas if they're doing it for if I'm doing it for free, there's always that thing of if I'm saying no to work, I'm really leaving money on the table. But if I at least get them to pay some sort of tokenistic price, then it's sort of I can say, I can actually set this time aside for you, and they feel empowered to because I know that you're, you're getting paid fairly for what's getting done, and what. So what vibe? Did you get off them when you said that? Yeah,
I it was good. It was understandably they, they, they were they were saying it? Yes, of course, it's, you know, would definitely pay for this and they want to they see the worth in it. And, and so it was received well, and I think this is probably not the best example of when, like a negative situation to learn from, it was like one where I might have thought more about this idea of like, people are gonna really care. And so it's like, when you Yeah, because a lot of time you will probably caring more than the other person or you're thinking about in a way that they just totally not even it's not on their radar, not on the writer. And so I think it's like new people in business, how much do you charge and then you just obsessing about this amount, and you need to justify it. And, you know, a lot of the time the kind takes the number is the amount it costs, like, isn't it is what it is. Yeah,
and a lot of the time if they pushing you on the figure, it's like the maybe not the right client for you, or they don't see your worth what's like
our way we're about to move out of our apartment. So we have to do the big cleaning before moving out so that, you know, in you can give the certificate or receipt or whatever, to the real estate agent. So they know what's been sort of what is it was it called, like bond, a bond back, you get your bond back and all that sort of thing. And the quotes have been really sort of different in price. So the quote that we got for doing our two bedroom apartment through the cleaning company that the real estate agent recommends and guarantees 100% on back guarantee was $480. Okay,
do you think that's a lot of money
your place you could do it yourself?
Well, yeah, I mean, that's like there is that theory behind it. And I was saying that to Bray like, you know, we keep it really clean anyway, we've done it. Yeah,
that's exactly what we've done multiple times. I mean, I so we were we were thinking famous, she's which he's done cleaning.
You've just outsourced it and just not paid him
and yeah, so we there was that price of someone who was like $300 but Bray spoke to these people on the phone who are $490 today to potentially lock them in and they set off we want one of the balcony down as well it was gonna be an extra 20 bucks so it's gonna be $500 but when break it off the phone like we've been having an hour and being like it's a bit of a lot of money given that like someone else is that quarter this 300 and but brain was like she wasn't really fast whether we went with them or not like she wasn't Mike prepared to budge which makes me feel that she must be really good yeah so maybe we just go with them
I guess that's the perception yeah
she's been tried yeah and
so and I guess that from a psychological point of view I've definitely paid more for things to remove the the worry right so it's like okay I'm going to pay a little bit more but I know that I'm not going to have to staff around with this when your favorite things to do pay a little bit more that's my tagline love a good subscription but no I am I've been working on the getting the daily talk show logo done
okay you battering know so I went to back you wave talking about the podcast into it very smoothly. Other
people go. Yeah, this going? And so the No, I sorry. I've been back and forth with a guy for about the last week I selected him based on it wasn't crazy expensive. It was about 300 bucks. had like three revisions. And I liked some of the stuff that he'd done. The problem I think was that like, he wasn't like for $500. I could get someone that I really like I really like and I thought I pushed pushed back on that idea of always just going the most expensive option because I feel like that is that used to be what I would do with a restaurant. I basically like go down the list to like, say like, okay, 1776 and 23. Okay. Yeah, that's probably gonna be the biggest 23. Let us look at the numbers. Look at the price and go highest first. Isn't that a fact? So I've been I've shifted I've definitely shifted well now be like, okay, I like it's between, say, the smashed ever and like the eggplant thing I can have. The eggplant thing is 18 and the Smash Davos 20 old guy that I didn't like, Oh, God, the cheaper options. You want to save some dollars now? Yeah, well, I think no. But I think it just that mindful thing of like, Okay, well, the default to go a bit cheaper did the
more expensive one from a data point of view of you doing this quite a bit? Yeah.
Does it mean it was better and bigger all the time now? Well, I think that that's that's the thing in a lot of cases, especially with travel experiences, I have some of my favorite travel experiences ever have cost nothing, where it's like going out on the street, going into a city walking around and paying a bunch of money for an experience hasn't acquainted to the happiness factor? Yeah. And no. So I ended up getting this this guy who was 300 bucks, sort of Eastern Europe,
I'd actually I've worked with, worked with him before, haven't UC services. But I have, yeah, I have sort of done some stuff with him before filming wise. And yeah, I got him to do it. And I just wasn't happy with the first revision. And it was almost like, there was no going back from the first revision where he'd sent through the stuff. And just because he hadn't been able to articulate the reason why he had done the logo, the way he'd done, you just sort of sent it to me, I was just like, a few, you know, be the type of graffiti artist thing. And so I think I was pretty dismissive in the sense of like, trying to be nice, I'm like, look, I think this is my fault, because I don't think I've articulated properly the creative and what I wanted. And upon reflection, I think that the style that I wanted, which was sort of type of graphically heavy doesn't necessarily suit your portfolio of sort of more I can ology sort of icons say, shoot has been more money. Yeah, so that's what I've literally done now. So it was that one where it's, like I said to I said to him, like, Look, I don't think it's worth your while doing another version, he ended up doing another version for me. And it was a beat betta bill still missing the artistry that I was hoping for, it was just a commodity that it was just sort of, like, pumps out all these logos all the time. And so and he's a really nice guy. And so I I wanted to make sure that I was like, I was respectful. And I definitely like some of the language I realized that I was using at the beginning, I said, Hi, I realized that I'm partly to blame for the and then I changed my hang on partly to blame is like the ultimate like, why of like, trying to put blame on to them, because it's saying that there's like, a certain amount of time, yeah, this certain amount of blame, and they have something whereas I think that because it was completely my expectations that weren't being met all and I picked them
nuances of conversation saying to somebody, so what you're saying, Yeah, he's implying that what they're saying doesn't make sense anymore. Need to clarify in a simpler form. Yeah,
what they say. So how would you what would be the less passive aggressive or rude approach to so you're saying, What do you think? Hmm, I'd probably I'd probably do something around
I'm not like I probably be saying self deprecating where it's like, I get it. Yeah, I'm a bit I'm a bit dumb. So, you know, give me a second. But I think it's an interview strategy. Like you see it
where I mean, yeah, it depends. But what I was thinking about what you're saying is a client that I haven't followed up on, actually, that, yeah, because we had a conversation was around the money thing, and that we're really trying to get a price out of me for a project. And long story short, I realized they told me that they'd been ripped off by someone who paid a charge them a lot of money. Yeah, and gave them a subpar product. So people are, and then vice versa is like, if you pay cheap, it's like the same. You get what you pay for. Yeah, and if you're paying cheap, you'll get a cheap product. And in a lot of senses, that's true. But there is this, you know, personal experience, you know, live the woman that I'm talking about the pied, a shitload and the client had paid a shitload. And now we're jaded and worried that someone's going to fleece them again, you know, and so it's money is just this thing of, you know, exchange of services, you're constantly trying to work out what the other person's thinking? Yeah,
I think that there's a, there's definitely a desire to try and be as honest and open about the whole process. I think that probably my thoughts have moved away from making them financial conversations and more around creative. So it's that thing of, you know, I look at, say the value say, like the daily talk show logo. He's back. And I think I apologize in your behalf to jive every episode. You I appreciate that you've got a lot of apologizing to. That's been a few years there.
No, but it's am I think about Okay, these are going to be safe. We're gonna like it. Yeah, I like to think big and like, Okay, what if we were to get like a LED light signage and where to get this printed here when it's on the thing there. And it's just like, and we wrap your car is a decal with the logo, which if you follow us on Instagram stories, you would know what I'm talking about at the daily talk show if you've used it within 24 hours of Jeff. Yeah,
it's very small window. Yeah, it's super fans. So yeah,
no, I didn't I put that hat on. And I'm like, Okay, well, this is something that I don't really want to skimp on. And what I've realized also is front loading communication, having the hard conversations first being being the annoying one at the beginning, where it's like, okay, let's make sure that we're on the same page. And then we're talking the same way to then allow them to be autonomous that we've talked about it in emails. Yeah.
Answering. So someone asks you a question and email. And the answer you have to give them is somewhat house meaning I can't help you because that doesn't work is my area. Yeah. burying it in the email. Just lead with it. I can't do Sunday. Yeah. Yeah.
It's it's about answer. Then. context. Yeah. Rather than context than answer. So it's that idea of we want to soften the answer was really, if we respect them, we should be putting it up front. Yeah. So
closing the loop of the the segue the chat we're having. I'm getting the pizza with bacon. So we're talking about closing the loops. I got close. Yeah. And anonymous listener
wrote to me and said on episode 89, where we had Bray on and I was talking about how great the interview with Sandra, Sally on Asha ginsburg podcast. And what did you accuse Sandra, Sally of doing? Do you remember
smoking hate to diaries? You having like a raspy voice? What I was thinking of someone else? What was the what was the terminology that you used?
I can't even remember how the person if I go into the mirror and be able to tell you exactly
commenting on your last podcast. My friend works at Channel 10 and exam. Sandra, Sally does punch docs.
So I don't know. I don't know if that's true or defamatory. If it's not true.
Well, I think you can hear it in someone's voice when I punch dots. Okay, especially someone who punches a lot of data to who punches a lot of that. So we spoke about him on yesterday's podcast. Rob Thomas from matchbox
great singer too. Yes, I mean, the best people's like just to bring it around. So it's less of sort of defamatory case a lot of great people punched art
fair enough there's your headline a lot of great people punch guys yeah,
so I don't know is that you know doing is now that's now your
gums. So yeah, Rob Thomas. He came into the radio studios working at man, he's voice and he smelled like CDs. And, and he was just Whoa. He's voice just sounds like also, to be fair on him. He uses the voice a lot and singing and so does change it. But yeah, he's a diary. Man. For sure. Man. You'd
want to be if you are making a living doing that. So I think he could see how as a someone old school media how that was sort of the romantic thing to do. Which is have a coffee hug have a Sigi Yeah, you'd be in the boardroom or whatever it is, and it would be that'd be, you know, smoke covered. Yeah, sort of roof there. I yeah,
I've never quite understood had lots of friends that been eating breakfast with them, or food and it's just straight on to a see after food. Yeah, it's like gives them a rash or something. It's like taste buds are going wild. And then they just just sucking back you know, talking about talking about people talking about that. But talking about people. It's the one area that I think that I've had the most amount of,
I think reflecting on a lot in the last fi is, so I feel like as a kid, what comedy was for me was just like, slamming people. It was Yeah, I thought that was really huge. Big jackass fan. Yeah, well, yeah. No, no, physically slamming PayPal. But just just like, um,
I enjoyed taking the piss heckle. Someone, heckling. And then the comedian going hard on them. Yeah, yeah.
Or the. It's like, the trolling the trolls and stuff like that. Like you and I have having a good laugh at someone or things like that, however,
like this Sandra
thing, or it was a passing comment that she smokes. And she sounds like she smokes and who was right. I know, founder punches, diaries, but I just not. But I think the thing is that I feel like I've lived long enough now to see how this like world goes around. And I think about like, the amount of like, friends that I've made and stuff like that, who I could imagine like, without knowing them in a previous life saying something on Twitter or shit like, like, so I just like my default has just been started to come around to not talking about people because I feel like every time I talk about someone I used to, I feel I feel like I used to really get like a
wasn't like a good rush, but never feel bad about it. I feel like I was catching up with the met yesterday. And even like, I was implying something about someone. I didn't even say it but it felt like I was I had this bit of information, this bit of truth about someone and I felt this design and the person came up in conversation and there was a desire for me to imply and saya that person blah blah, blah. And I strike like that evening. I was just thinking about it unlike,
you know, feel good about. Yeah, well gossiping, Amy had a situation at her office where she got caught up in some gossip and caught up meaning it was like she said something to the person who was being gossip, then I say gossip, just using the sense of like being talked about, but she found herself in this case where she wasn't may decide. Because then she said that. Yeah, and then I mean, he was telling me and always feeling the feeling of what she was feeling that frustration of like, I don't want to be involved in this. Yeah, and I get it when you talking about someone else? It can, but I feel like I don't maybe we you know, not I think around your mates. Everyone says some sheet that they wouldn't fucking press record. And
it's almost like, I want to like this. The
I feel like I almost need to give context to these things now, where it's like, yeah,
or, or do I just not say it at all, you need
to have your own personal filter. I don't feel that there's anything that I say that's about someone else that I'm not willing to say to them
my show and it's and me saying, Sandra, Sally punches, darts. I'm not saying it's fact we've had it confirmed. So I can be clear that we haven't had it. We've had an anonymous I had an anonymous person. So they work they've got a friend that works at channel 10. Who can confirm that she punches that? Yeah, so I mean, I'm just saying I don't think it's it's not like saying she takes heroin which is which she doesn't. And I just get she doesn't. But you would i would i i'm happy to talk about other people in the sense of this is some a thought, Yeah, and I don't think we're vicious people. So we're not, we're not mean, I get it. I know, you don't want to focus your energy there. But maybe you're talking about secrets on people. And it feels like you've got leverage over them. Now, why
don't feel that I think that there's a level of
i think i think about when you already happening to you. Is that what you feel? I think maybe, no, it's not. No, it's not even that. I think that the feeling is that I will see people who I know who would say something to me about someone else. And I always look at them and and i actually the person who saying it, I end up being a bit of a mark on their name. Oh my God, this the type of person to sort of have a have a crack or something like that. But I guess it's a different versions of
if you're not willing to say it, and to the person. Don't fucking say it is what I think. And
I think that there is that, but then there's also the fact of like, we have people that are really close to us. So Amy might be frustrated at work and might say things to you in frustration or just being like, Oh, this person's really, you know, annoying me their pain in the ass. Like, and then that's
Yeah, like, Okay, then it makes me see that person. different light. Yeah, but
yeah, but not only that, I think that it
you know, these things aren't necessarily facts. Like I've had people where they'll say something bad about someone. Yeah. And then I'll look at that person in a different light now, but then the person who said the bad thing they go on their merry way and they find they have like, a good relationship with the person but maybe I hold grudges because I'm like
playing into it. I just think don't I I think you don't want to be known as the person who's talking about other people because if that is what the other people around them pick it up on Yeah. As the trite as I if you see
too much of that you're doing too much and I think the fact that it's like so isolated and it happened this once and I identified and I drew this big circle around it I'm like man you know like I wasn't a fan of that moment um, I haven't consciously thought about it like you
you know it in years I remember I was always distancing myself from people in school those people who would be gossip is or always wanting to start shit yeah.
But I think there's a level of empathy as well right? So I think that
I think about okay like I'm saying these things but I don't really not like I'm taking this one perspective which is mine which is probably being told by third source all these types of things
but at the same time I value honesty and transparency and all of those things as well as a squeegee story this crazy story of 2004 which remember the date that I remember this day I'm checking a rough a rough number on a
rough entry points
it's a very good pond if you've heard that story on a previous episode I go back fact I
just got here with hunger really it's about that well What time is it it's like the three o'clock is the three o'clock hunger
the spike yeah I'm fine. I had a Hulu me burger today before the show our core CDs. It was really yummy. Actually bad for them to get it down and process and I was just a no brainer sort of shtick. Is he here he over guy but she
was so so good. have moved on from all about smoking.
Speaking of dads, diaries, CDs, fags nation can call in fact you can i like i said i can't cold facts. No.
Se is that is that the title of the
eggs no more can call and I remember buying fags from the list of the classic story Yeah sure. This isn't the story but I just know it's like it's the feds yeah and then big bosses used to have read tips on them and they got rid of the red tips I who was a lot
Mother's Day went to my parents place they had a ball on the night they had a place that had Golliwogs on to that Kenya fact sorry we're
going on tangents airport yeah waiting for applying this woman and a golliwog and if you don't know because they pretty much been wiped out because it's fucking not pay say yeah don't even pay say is like just not acceptable. The they're like Blackpool doll black like Cabbage Patch dolls. Are they like kind of soft or they just black skin with frizzy hair? Yeah. And so anyway, this woman at the airport and well he can say the words actually. Well we have Yeah. And someone said Oh. Is that a gollywog or you send it again? And she said yes. And I hated how people always judge it. This is mine from my childhood. It's my golliwog. Yeah, this
was this is when I was okay to be racist. And it was so bizarre. Anyway, this marketing story I saw what that's how you gonna end that but just
Yeah, I don't complete like I just want to get big, Asterix, Asterix, Asterix, Asterix whatever the fuck the word is the
thing that looks like a star. Yeah,
the stars. Words after a star.
No idea about history of Golliwogs, don't know what it means. Associate. associate a little bit with like, the equivalent of doing blackface. But I have no idea.
Interesting. That's another topic. So walking through the park couple of days ago, and I saw this and as I was walking there, a woman ran past me. Yeah, full jogging gear. Yeah, exercise lady. And then as I go through the park there, she's sitting down, she's punching a diary. And guess who it was
a lot. I don't know if it was it wasn't if I
guess we're never gonna be able to have on actually the thing is, let's be very, very clear. Because I feel like this is very important. I remember hearing a Yeah,
I remember hearing of podcast about
this for being six years ago. And there was a guy the it was a comedy podcast and these guys were making fun of these dudes making fun of it. But the funny thing was that I recently heard a podcast where the dudes that they were making fun of ended up being guests on the show.
Are we gonna be on Sandra Sally's paga? I'm saying that we might be Sandra Sally might come on our boys
get on the show to discuss all things. dots. Yeah, maybe maybe not as personal as she's got a wave and say I made it may have said this. I'd like to get her on. That'd be fun. And I'm sure want to come on. And now she probably wouldn't. Anyway, this form in the park just punch in your diary. After taking a run. She was exercising the same fucking Park I'd seen a dude like it was in his locker good clipped off and was standing so he's like just standing on the ground with he's barking between his legs at Rice a box so he's like a full exercise not yeah and I looked over and he was smoking with a plastic glove on your show Asia and then he pulled out his cigarette pull these gloves off put it into the back pocket and rode off and he's white clip back in exercises marking its most counterproductive things you could possibly do punching your diary and then and then doing it not deal with
it. There's a real push at the moment on the hallucinogenic so if you haven't I haven't listened to the for Tim Ferriss podcast he had Michael Pollan on who's the guy who wrote the book omnivores dilemma and every
every hippies getting on board and like Bri I can tell you what the mushrooms are
where it's at. It's I haven't done shrooms or any hallucinogen hallucinogenic drugs I that I just never kind of drugs at scale me
but even even things like Wade you know like there's such a celebration of way you'd at the moment with legalization in different parts of the US these all these businesses fucking try before you judge bro that but I just know I don't think I feel like that's a setup is I've ever heard one side like you never gonna know it's like you with kids just like my You won't understand what you have one and I'm going to have when you buy a ha ha
like good luck sleeping bro. It's like so just like kids kids are in a lot of ways like Wade is it's like really could be this amazing experience or it could ruin your life
I mean they at say like saying you could go into the gym is healthy for you but it could become the death of you
exactly what you just said though it could be it could be this or it could be this so we'd for some people from what I've heard it can be a relaxing if you have anxiety and all that sort of thing but there's a lot of people who like I worry that
peak performance like not that I'm fucking peak performance at the moment or even that's like I'm not fucking strong I'm not like you know doing crazy marathons or doing anything like that but I just maybe it's this is just don't need another vice other chocolate cake right now yeah I'm not encouraging you to start a little my first experience was very fucking if you put a cookie versus putting it like
even mortar really I've done it all and the reason I stopped smoking weed 10 years ago is that I made these cookies and holy shit I that it says it's a completely different high taking something and it being processed through your pancreas within so through guts is process is completely different so the drug itself THC is sent through the body completely differently so it gives you a different feelings are closest to having it being like a socket so psychedelic and it fact I my mind was going a million miles an hour I don't need that yeah so never do a cookie jar.
Could you imagine the phone call you would get
bro please help I'm just fucking thinking this podcast
let's go officer James taught not
buddy yeah so my first experience of both of those were very fucking bad yeah
i don't know i don't think that for my
dry so just give it a rest. Yeah What does
that have gone into coffee have already started adding like two shots to my coffees. It's a good
I mean drug pusher you might may feel better yeah
you need to remember to drink more water I feel like dehydrated all the time. I feel like like I can dry inside matric enough anyway it's the daily talk show everyone James Sorry bro yeah for the reference that Tommy's mentioning it that my brother James Johnson mentioned that we talked too much about the podcast specifically on the podcast and probably what he's referring to is you talk too much about it potentially he's being nice he's he's
he seemed like a very lovely guy yeah
Do you know why we're getting a lot more listeners with faculty were peeking we're like month on month the growth is unbelievably for a start up if you're making money off this thing
imagine know just be like a status money this is the this is the truth but um. That we're getting a lot more listeners but the fact is aren't leaving reviews on iTunes we've just been stagnant the last one we got TV ah yeah
the amount of reviews I've lived in the podcast space
so little to the amount I've listened to it's the equivalent of like a happy birthday is you know every year I probably right to Happy Birthday messages on Facebook they'll get like at every I'm like fact is this 78 people yeah that you're giving me a birthday message that I haven't wish them happy birthday and maybe it's equivalent maybe I need to be doing more reviews on podcast for the review karma to help me i
i agree with you and I might start yeah
I'm trying to say that's one thing I'm trying to do is
mention podcast mentioned like it like giving these down. And again, James I'm talking about podcasting yet no, but no, I'm enjoying doing that where it's like actually because I'm spending so much time listening to staff Yeah, going in and saying okay,
you should listen to this very quickly. Your old co host Stacey journey yes she's part of the space after she's part of the thinker girls which was a podcast initially then did the whole radio thing and then went back out and doing podcasts anyway
I really enjoyed I was listening to a few episodes and they have this great episode without talking about the transition from going the whole righty around to the podcast thing and you arrived about this to me yeah I think it's a it was a fucking great episode and I respect what they're doing so if you if you have a podcast that one comment that I got from someone was they'll put off by the veggies so at the front there was like I think was a vagina specific ad that was being served because female focused but I've just on that company veggie seal I think it's about just that maybe it's not but now I
know there's a veggie chill out there but I've always gone Why don't you go with that name? Yeah, so
that the episode that I really liked was Episode 46 and they're talking about passionate people on whether they're happier which I thought was interesting but yeah there are some fucking guns doing a podcast just trying to fucking hustle like the rest of
us today sees real hustler yeah
they both both I can smashing it anyway it's a daily talk show everyone if you've got if you've got a podcast to let us know at height the daily talk show.com so we can have a listen to it and if we like like it we'll talk about it if we don't we just want to defame you have a good one.