#079 – Socks that don’t smell/

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The Daily talk show I'm Josh Johnson on Tommy jacket and it is Episode 79 yeah

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after having your bro on yesterday it's

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not you

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know i i think we should get one of my brothers on to i'd love that it's nice to delve into like I could have spent the whole podcast is asking

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questions about you yeah

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we didn't talk about this after the polka or go to since you were nervous going into it were you nervous was he

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knows it I think no I think there's big no no not nervous I don't think but I think that I'm just

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I realized this might be it's a tree good thing maybe I've like spent my life having a certain relationship yeah and I think that it's like I don't want to make him Uncle I like as a guest I want to make him feel comfortable I think it's maybe the dynamic shift because i as i said i was the antagonist I was the one that I would just make fun of him and just have a bit of a laugh and I always thought it was funny but I'm thinking this is this is it

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I mean this family dynamics I know my older brother has and I don't think I'm talking to school just some shit that went on in his childhood that I didn't get that treatment and it's nothing it's just like learning as a mom and dad yeah shit changes so the way your your brother got parented to the way you you know because you're different Kenya use Luna yeah and it's it's super interesting and it's it's fascinating but I was interested is really interesting you know

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trajectory of his life from living in the burbs to living in the states yeah and i said if you didn't hear it listen to it

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yet so if you didn't listen James is a assistant coach for women's college team which is really interesting but I think the other thing that's fascinating about and say that type of conversation is how relationships change over time and how you need to transition relationships between one dynamic and another so being young people being kids were you living with each other and he might be fighting for attention or whatever it is to being adults and living in the world where it's like hanging out is using guarantee

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you don't have people don't have to say that brothers that's evolution of a relationship and so yesterday I was talking to one of my clients and my friends Lisa who you know she's a high flyer fucking amazing consulting business you know makes a lot of money and I only say that just because it the responsibility has and the big clientele she she deals with we're going to get it on the podcast yeah cry

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but she

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I met her when I was a 19 year old PT and I trained her realize that yes I met her on a camp with Craig who guys we got gray hair on the show Monday fact episode it but I met her when she was in the time of her life message transition eight years ago something more and now I'm working with her and we're completely different levels and she said on the phone to me she's like you know i i almost there's been times where I've seen you is that you know the guy who gave me a little session when you were 19 and you were you know fresh faced and now I'm a completely different person and so what I take from what you said about your brother is your brother sees us that fucking younger brother yeah absolutely but you're an adult now who has a business and you have you know you your relationship and all these things going on for you but it's very easy to say that a little shit yeah or whatever he saw you as yeah yeah absolutely

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and I think that it's

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you need to deal with it in a delicate why in the sense of You can't expect like I remember going to North Carolina instead of expected this is a new start this a fresh start and I remember I was on a

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on a walk and I tripped over and he had a got me about tripping over and I was so triggered by oh sorry like our fact classic James and always doing applying that exact size

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thing running mate

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yeah triggered because he was triggered yeah yeah and that was triggered and the funny thing is, it's like you see how many times do you like you'll see you know a family member or whoever it is and their dynamics with other people and you're like oh man that's so different to to what are they not saying the same thing and yeah

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the person you once were is not the person who you are today and just

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like we're we're not the same the people around us aren't the same too so I think that it's it's about having that empathy I think that it's definitely a

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it's a yeah it's an interesting journey because it's like you don't there's a God that you put out prime where it's like I want it like

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I feel like as a as a family would not necessarily be an open talk you know it's not like all you know I would like the like us talking about being kids we did that for the first fucking time as adults just on a podcast it's it's amazing and that's I wanted to go through hard

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yes sir I held it back I thought you were nervous at the start because you like you know how much of a fucking use loose you know what you're gonna fuck up

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just fucking ruffle feathers ruffled feathers yeah yeah I am quick one

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Stephen Hawking didn't talk

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is not doing it oh

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stuff so

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we've talked about scammers and obviously that's

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a scam

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but I did think and what it would it made me think about was that's that's like a guy's voice stitch together so there would have been someone out there that's voice that yeah I don't know how artificial like it sounds out official because it's like a soundboard that have taken it's like almost what Michelle who we had on the podcast donate to a voice and has to say all these different hopefully it's not to

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mention ending up on that you mentioned a guy voicing and I and I thought I saw I saw this fucking post that and it's a young boy and on there it's like it's about it basically in essence this the poster says

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I made who have said with me and it's all about much do you have to be totally sex passed on a bill if you were even if you're on a cold sore add yeah

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and it's like you become fucking do

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mention this guy hearing his own voice guy

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but the thing is, I feel like that so that's okay I reckon the the like it. The thing is, he's not fucking approving that that guy has put his voice into some sort of system Yeah, which is just used across everything. But the person who's the sex passed on the Billboard the keys he's probably like he's probably set up for life now he's probably got like, you know, $100,000 in a bank that in a fucking high return I was

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trying to think about it in the end especially this this kid on the poster

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hopefully it's a Morph to face hopefully they got a guy and then also these phase change these noser resides enough because who's fucking putting their hand up to be on an ass then

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you ended up yeah I did.

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Because I put all of my photos on as Creative Commons on flicker and so that anyone could just grab them and yeah a few times I've had photos of me put into articles and things like that. Would you would you? Would you feel comfortable having bodies' face on different commercials? Where would you draw the line

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I've been thinking about it quite a bit you know because I share a lot of content of him now but like who he was when he was born and who he is now one year later I look like you know he just looks it looks very different. So why does it say Casey Neistat doesn't show his daughter's face anymore so I heard the reason for an i can i Mr. Gray yeah god

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i'm guessing like if we're showing all of her faces throughout all the years you could develop some sort of you've got all of this content to deep fakes that we talked about yeah

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to crash what he said and what he did say was it she's now at age probably it's like three or going on for yeah we actually start looking like the person you you're going to become type of thing yeah and so that's where it when it becomes you know, she can't once that footage that there's like it's obviously it's it's not factored in public yesterday but it becomes pretty much public property or

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you become part of the in the public domain or whatever. And

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so it is it is it like when he becomes when he's five years old? Do you think maybe younger? I'll go harder for a little while we already had him in a few ads Yeah. would you would you think that you would have him as a child star Oh, I don't know

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anymore

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even modeling Tommy Davidson who we're going to have this show a lot of people we're going to have on the show it's great he's been modeling for 10 years good looking rooster he doesn't get the money you want did yeah because he said it's just not the same anymore The think about online I think it's video like think about the jobs you and I've done and we've got people involved in cashews exactly and so it's driving the price down so unless you're getting in Versace. Or if I can, you know, yeah,

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a big contract. What's interesting

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that the reason that say you

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get paid a lot is for exclusivity and stuff like that. Or for instance, when Bray worked at Suzanne she was in charge of picking models right before big campaigns people getting 10s of thousands models gain 10s of thousands of dollars type of deal and if you've been on country road or something like that they didn't want to use you if you're the face of something else if you're a servant about being the face if you were in that last campaign they don't want it's a bad look if two competitors have the same fucking model

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yeah I in chef and when I live there that's walking down the main street yeah I looked into the fucking What do you call it like construction a tire shop you know there's those ones

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was Tommy day. Of course, I can post it in the window look great in it.

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But it's interesting and we'll talk to him about it. And the change in his look, as he's got older. He's He's working he's been getting quite a bit of work. Yes. It's like and this is the thing with women model female models it's like they're in their prime and then they can go out of the prime and I'm saying prime talking a fucking

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you know, like it's it's disgusting. But they say you talk about model it's like they literally just looking at you as a Yeah. what you look like, you're not good enough. Go. And so men mature into this. Like you look at fucking all made from oceans. 11. What's his name? You? Why the fuck would

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I I was like these kind of

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No shit. No. George Clooney. Oh, I'm more in demand. Is he as he got older? And he's all and so George Clooney is the quintessential old dude, isn't he? Yeah. And I think you know what it is when talking about older models I just think of is a fucking amazing main. seek it out if he can. It's on its own. It's amazing. It's May modified. But it's also a video it's of Oprah and a behind the scenes of a photo shoot. And she's so fucking happy. And she's jumping. She just kicked leaping as the best fucking thing you've ever seen. What What was she modeling? Just know it was just like, I think the mains around it like I wish I had a day like Oprah Yeah. Because she's just so fucking like, happy. It's very funny. I've been noticing I was filming an event the other day. And it was quite a dark venue. And I had a light on and the future he was sort of trying to help the photographer out a bit because she didn't want to just use a flash. So I was giving her a bit of light and just saying how model people who are models, two different faces. Like you can see what I'm doing right now. They just like real. It's almost like they've got to take and it just sort of like moving around how it's on a red carpet. And who was it

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the chick from rogue traders. She Australia. New

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comment, Brendan. And she was so when you I did this to you laugh

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Yeah. Because it gives you a good yeah. gt face

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like open now issues.

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She was making the noise always fucking, they're capturing video

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videos. grad fact that's funny.

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I had something I want to talk about. But did you have anything you want to

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know what we were talking about structure and the podcast?

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It's almost relating to that. Yeah.

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So it was just around around was we had a first chat in a while yesterday where we actually sat down and said, okay, we didn't have African computers and stuff like that. It's like, what do we want the podcast to be? How we going to do it? What do you think if I was really heavily pushing the jingle? I want to fucking jingle and I've said like I've been good I haven't been pushing a jingle but I want one now. And so we're even talking about let's get a trailer let's because you know I've had a few people asked I had he structured or like had he had he come up with topics and what scares me is that there's no process to it at all. It's like if someone said How did you make the cake so now it's fucking checked in the ingredients and the thing is it's almost the equivalent of like when we have a good episode it's like you make a chocolate cake and you make it differently every time and this one time you make it and people say fact that was that cake was so good What did you do differently yeah

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and you like our fact actually don't even know i mean what I what I've learned from listening to you is that I now feel like chocolate cake it's true I think the theme of what I wanted to bring which is almost similar to this is collaborating so it's I heard something recently and it was from all night Neistat yeah and it was around

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he style that he color calibrates collapse, yeah. Used to give me that. What did you use to get into me about saying collab co led labs and labs

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know it says kind of style that he collaborates best and it is drawing people into a project. He's managed vision reward. Yeah, and then them assisting that. And so I thought about that. And I was like, you know, from my videos that I'm doing it actually for my channel. And I think that's the case. Like, if I'm making video for my channel, it's the one for that you're in. That's one of them one of the great videos on my channel of you pretending to be a dad for the data. Bodie and it's a collaborative approach where, but you're just, you're just in it. Now, I'm capturing the amazing ness of you in your weakness with my son. It's great. And then I was like, you know, how do you when you are actually needing to come together to collaborate on a thing that were mutually a part of 5050? It's, you know, how do you make that work?

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How do you say me as a collaborator? Well, I

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thought about it after our discussion. Yeah, and I wrote your name out. Yeah,

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I said, You're a fucking dog. Didn't do you

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read that email us? Yeah, yeah. And so I was like, dude, the jingle. Yeah, yours? Yeah, I've got no actually don't care enough. Yeah, okay. That was icy shape. But I actually I'm working with you. Because I believe in everything you do. Like, it's like, you do good work. So it's like, whatever. I think

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that that was the the point of the conversation is right, which is that

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it's it's knowing, you know, collaboration doesn't mean always having an opposing view on something. And that was, I think, like, what, and I think by the end of it will having a great conversation, because I think at the beginning, it's almost like he can get into a certain frame of mind, which is like, if someone's asking for change, there's almost a default, which is like, no, but it's not needed, which is almost a minimalist approach, which is like, no, you're over complicating it anytime. It's almost a push back against complexity. Anytime there's extra complexity know, we don't need it.

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And so that was, you know, I think an interesting, interesting thing, which I recognized him saying, okay, we'll do

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yeah, it's almost like, do you care? And are you do you really have a strong opinion or thought on this? Is it going to take away from anything? If not, can we so I think a good word that sums it all, his vision, and the if the visions are opposing massively, then collaboratively, it's probably a disaster. But you know, it can be micro vision of something like a jingle out of it, which is like, it doesn't bother me. So you end but you were really you you had this vision you might I don't know what's going on in your head. You can't explain it yet. But I know you work it out. Yeah. And so it's it is hard because I think if we set out the vision and this is for anything

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I think we will see other podcasts because people listening to it

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yeah I think for anything it's like the vision there's always a visionary of something yeah Steve Jobs have a say market visionary of

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apple and where was was going the company jewels lands a visionary yeah he's company tribe yeah you know as much as he's got people on the on the company as well

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but I think I definitely struggle with

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not bringing the vision I'm not necessarily good operator under someone else's vision

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I wanted to have that works within collaboration so for instance remember I remember probably a year and a half ago you know me saying to you sort of like I don't really I only want to work on projects with you when I'm like when you get the full stack films on and I'm sort of doing x y&z I don't want to be doing just this one pot and I think that was the realization for me that I work best under a certain under certain sort of, you know a method to be able to get the most out of me and if I'm sort of I'm not a great follower of instructions and I think I don't think that's even where my value necessarily lies that's why if I turned down or or handball a job it's because the what the client wants isn't really using using my skill set

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yeah it's scary the vision to yeah you know, we talked about it this week around actually just fucking deciding on what it is you want. which is essentially deciding on the vision of your own life and I and I'm struggling I'm struggling I feel at the moment but I feel like I'm getting closer to just going it's almost like being vocal about what that vision is. But

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how do you get sold on your own vision without that lizard brain being like

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you know you can't do that this that and the other well

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i think that Simon cynic

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who's who does a lot of sort of thought leaders that who's the second most talked about other podcasts on this show, know,

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somebody's gotta gotta

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go. But he

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He's, uh, he's done TED talks and what sort of thing about leadership, like all about why asking

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in the podcast, the live stream

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tags. Yeah, so

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he, he's very prolific. And he, I was watching a thing this morning with him where he was talking about vision. And he was saying, some people would say, if we're using the podcast analogy, some people would say, we want to be the best podcast one of the best podcasts in the world, or you want to be the most downloaded podcast or whatever it is. Whereas I think that we've actually, we did the right thing in our approach, because our vision is around

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translating friendship to to a larger audience to sort of, if you are working from home, or you're in your car, or whatever it is, you might not necessarily have like minded people, or people that are aligned with you in your life. And that's gonna fucking happen. And that happened to me, when I was younger. When I was a kid, and I'm 15 years old, I discovered this thing called podcasting. And I could listen to people who were in their 20s, 30s, 40s

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mentor, and they became my mentors. And I didn't even realize it at the time. But those viewpoints the conversations that they were having, that will well above my fucking understanding of the world, but

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I think that there's a heap of fucking power in, in using technology to be able to sort of say, she ate that need. And so for me, that's what I hope this podcast is. And it's a big fucking vision. It is. Yeah, it's,

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I always get a bit fucking

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paralysis analysis, thinking of a vision, right? Because then it's like, there's too many good options. Life's too good. It's like you working at your own movie. Yeah. And you just constantly just open our fucking love that being that

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big. Well, I think that we've got the vision and then we've, we've got the more tactical bits, which is so low level, like, if you think about it, a lot of people are like, trying to get quick success. The talking about quick success. What I fucking love about and what we've done it unintentionally I even heard another podcaster sorry, a YouTuber l Mills, I was watching. She was on the creative exchange, which was a podcast by Sarah he who's who's a YouTuber, and she was talking about when she got started, and how, what she realized these every single time she put up a video, she would get 10 subscribers. So she said, if she makes 100 videos, she will have 1000 subscribers, right? And so the funny thing is, what have we been talking about in the last like, few months? It's like, okay, every time that we do a podcast, we get 1.5 new listeners, right. So I'd like you know, we just get 100 rep day per Rep. So we get 100 listeners per episode. And the thing is that when every single every single fucking week we're seeing that go up by 10 listeners, or whatever it is. So the amazing thing is that it's just a quantity game. It's just a volume game. And then if we apply our vision, if we stay true to our vision, then all it means is just making more so if someone says how are you guys going to get to 1000 listeners per episode? You just like I need to do what like 750 episodes Yeah, or whatever it is. Is that does that is that math work? What if I get your point and so I think that that's super super powerful because for me it's like that that's I think we spoke about it with Trevor as well. It's unlocking long game talking about the long game these Moreno Sachs

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has it has the assault a segue for a long guy well, so the long game so I'm trying I'm in the process of the moment of trying to find the perfect outfit that I can wear as someone who's trying to minimize the if I can live in regards to the things that we don't necessarily need to put too much emphasis on and so one of them is that I want to be traveling with only a few t shirts yeah and and socks and shorts and also thing and so I'm going through this process of trying to find the perfect ones

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these are merino wool we went date we went socks yeah

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and so in a in a fucking zero to 100 real quick oh it's because I can sort of smell them so it's been going really well these yeah the the socks that have been doing what I've been wearing them for five days

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fact if you watched them know

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what are you talking about bro so this is that this is

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I mean got a few socks that she doesn't wash and I will put a caveat around it I mean doesn't smell at all she's fucking smells like roses how she does it

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but like I'm a fucking boy that stinks a shower or fourth

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yeah definitely well for know so that so you're a roaster Marina Marina is about is a type of fucking wall and this is like a blend which is it's meant to be anti odor and it's designed so that you can wear it a lot of times in a row yeah and you can be fine so the idea with the T shirts that I have these Marina i if i can get

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if I can get say safe you could get two weeks out of a T shirt right fact you'll grow and then you could interchange them so say say you have two t shirts and so you could do one day on one day off so then it has time to air out now do you think it's disgusting think it's disgusting yeah welfare

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What about your socks every day? I admittedly these jeans like a rotate but yeah wash them yeah but I don't yes I do watch them hundred percent well then on denim they're not you're not even you

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know the fucking ahead of Levi's the CEO of Levi's was on stage this is a few years ago said I don't wash my Jane yeah

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Rob but you have access to a lot of pairs of jeans I'm guessing I bought a pair of jeans that were like you know that fucking like it's a it's almost look like right now they've got like it looks like they coated it's almost like like

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that coated in fact in sequence and a whack so it's we they like a weed why the coffee July them in the first ever really cool okay I'm again to expand Canvas you can't watch the things like the first three four weeks of buying them because they're aware of me yeah and they just you know these to say put them in the freezer yeah yeah

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that's what I say.

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It's nice though. No bit I know I know you're busy I know that you're going to push back on this but I've got like me so so this is keeping in mind it's been I did 25,000 steps in them just now just looking at the time because I'm

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actually sorry

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yeah I actually this is the worst we're finishing this with may smelling salts. So this is this is the worst that it's been so keeping in mind. It's been pretty good for five days. And I feel like if we what we can even do is on Monday I won't wash them at all. And we can smell them again to see if that odor has gone away. Might we got Craig Harper on the show? Amanda perfect. It's five Christ in

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the last

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meeting the other day about the podcast yeah it wasn't how do we make this more like commercial radio this wacky sounds like smelling salts does seem like that just give it to me I smell is it How bad do you think that is? Okay I'm just feeling it first they fucking solid it's been warm in Melbourne that is like isn't being yeah it's not middle of winter here so that

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might be there okay hang on it's very thick

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for 25,000 steps it's not bad he's a thing I actually don't smell into you get you know is like super super close yeah so I think the fabric keeps the smell and the currencies I just gave it a big with just put to ease now isn't

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you know like I feel like I don't mind the smell of my own Oda you like that on the side like if my shits don't on disgusting to me. Do you agree like I did something very primal. It's the daily talk show where we go from talking about vision and getting serious and deep to may smelling Joshua socks I hope you have enjoyed we haven't

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