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- April 30, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Monday April 30 (Ep 75) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett. –
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The Daily talk show 75.
Just before I press record, I said, Do you want to lead this one? And you were saying it makes no diff. And as as you were saying, Yeah, press record.
What makes no difference? Because I always bring content to the table.
It's good night. Good. laid by the white. Get going. Yeah, I just interject, we're edging closer to 100. And I'm and I'm fucking excited. Yeah. It's,
uh. How much? How many more just quickly? That's a good at math is 25 yeah good feeling like the average I would say 35 yeah if
I can do without the
average 25 is correct
and I'm just gonna first lead we usually finished with people who have sent stuff through Michelle that email you sent through I've been it's actually open on my phone and I've half responded but I'm slightly inept when it comes to writing and I feel like I should do directly should say it on the show. I really enjoyed your email. It was one response to you mentioning on the podcast after we had her on about talking to her or doing an episode talking to her around transsexuality, transsexuality and she broke it down. She said this if we get to go down the rabbit hole. This and things you need to know. And I really liked it points. And I really appreciate because it's not like I'm judging her experience. And her
I guess thoughts around the subject because I haven't experienced it. So I'm really looking forward to. And she gave us a compliment that we're open minded. But and then I thought about being so open minded that my brain falls out. So I'm somewhere between my Brian falling out and taking the compliment. So Michelle, thank you so much for the email. I know you spent a bit of time and there was some really, really amazing stuff and I'm super keen and interested to hear your story. The
funny thing with Michelle's emails ease there's a starring function on chain now where it's like, if it's more than a couple of sentences, and I can't like I need time to really digest it and read and once a thing, I just saw the email and sure enough, you look at my stars, it's all Michelle cuz
she's, I guess like she's very good at right. like writing and writing almost like a letters. letters to the editor to style. Yeah. And so that you just end up with them. I've got so much to I feel like I've got a novel worth of stuff that I want to read that Michelle sent so nicknames I wanted. That's what I want to talk about. I guess Mish Oh, Michelle. Michelle is that the nickname of Michelle? No,
I don't know maybe. Okay. It's a nickname. First of all, a nickname should be one that's not self prescribed.
Okay, because I do try and do that as a kid could imagine you doing that as a kid and try to get fridge off the ground Yeah, french fries was at the size of you that you were thinking yeah, I think there was some sort of old 40 Playa that used to be cold fridge and it seemed like a good sort of NY from a bank like a little bit bigger to be a not being cold a fatty fridge was Do you remember anyone thrown around the term frigid free yeah absolutely or your fridge it
Jimmy Wenk yet
you want let Jimmy when that's the title of today's episode.
I mean, that was it's horrible, frigid. fridge it Yeah. No, it was definitely you wouldn't pull that Jimmy Hey. That
would you mean
that would that wouldn't really I wonder if they still say frigid I wonder why not? Yeah
cuz he's implying that someone wouldn't do this act sexual act Yeah. Which is really ripe enough i mean i think it was always right here but it wasn't it wasn't as a it didn't have the this cutthroat does now show more politically correct environment
I feel like maybe it did have the same
yeah like I think that the only things changed is like that with like now been educated I don't care It's like my balls are just dropped and it just came out I knew I am so nicknames
what there's a few things so something's happened and I'm just wanting to gauge it but I'll get to assign its That's what you call a hook like skiing very good but when you meet somebody it's it could be it's it's almost like a tactic to be more endearing and build rapport yeah or it could go the other fucking loud so true Joshi boy how I bro it's like Josh
Josh the boy yeah
a bully used to call me Joshi boy and he used to stick a pencil up our social may
it's very the tone of the shows there's a specific time I'm enjoying it. I mean I Byron cook from Fox you know he got his name on that he's on billboards now and stuff he's a big deal be bar and they can be Bob aren't a cozy baby JJ is trying to think more condescending. That'd be JJ Hey baby JJ just need some artwork made up for this little meme of made
especially when you're
lacking content producer yeah he loves you he did loves call me Bobby JJ. And it has stuck but for him Yeah, he caught he still calls me baby JJ
okay. But that hasn't really caught on no no
JJ has those who came up
I think first was to fact i don't know but it's an initials right so it's sort of it's it's one it has to stick though yeah i think i would sign off on my emails JJ I think you probably really took off my invite our days when I was working there but I read an article where I saw that people with nicknames get be a pay rises interesting so I was like okay that's but you have the opposite because you you prefer to go with a nickname Tommy not your actual name true
and if I say so if I'm introducing your car this is Tommy the book Oh Hi Tom yeah
they change nickname yeah
but I've I've definitely it seems like there's a few names that people don't like to shorten Andrews my handy dandy yeah a lot of Andrews don't like Andy yeah loaded Daniels don't like then Melissa don't like Mel least nodal wise. Yeah. Some of it. Some of them Alice. My Amy's girlfriend yeah
I call a male it's less yeah well it's actually less
Australian there was a name though someone's name a few weeks ago that I was hanging out with
and I was just completely fucking up the name but I feel like it could have been well Bobby if your name is Bobby maybe I mean mob Well, maybe they don't want to be cool. But I bumped into a Bobby this morning and share that Bobby it works on Easy Street. Get a business in one of the train carriages that's it's an old school trained carriage up on the top of a building. It's fucking epic. Why
is it so easy? these burgers? Yeah. And
so there's three characters up there. So once a burger restaurant the others top floor Bobby's joint. But my point is I went I would never go to call him Bob. But maybe his name maybe row it's
like I've got a friend named Georgia. I'll call her jE jE one scholar George. George feels like it's an outlier. Georgie Georgie like yeah
it's a it's an interesting one because yeah, it's polarizing you I haven't called you JJ until I remember on started this podcast first few episodes I was dropping JJ and then it kind of like that
and then it's so stuck. Oh call you TJ lot. Yeah,
I get TJ teach. Yeah,
that's about it.
So really good bit of content. I'm really glad you're leading this any other right now
the reason this all came out which because yesterday someone commented on my back and Obeid video, the gift that keeps giving Yeah, it was nice. It was fair and it was a nice comment. He and then he started in boxing me sky from Brazil, really into bikes. He's like I've been talking to the guy who, you know the head of a bike nearly thought you were gonna do an accent again.
You got vibes don't golf going. So anyway, he any any sign of he said, you're
you're you're a great urban reporter. Yeah. And that reminded me of in the paper when they wrote this article. I mentioned me they gave me Well, it's almost nickname they coined. Like they used a phrase called, which was the urban Stevo and and I always fucking love that Oh, and the urban Stevo. So I got called the urban Steve O. And I was like that's fucking seek. Can I take it? If you if someone says a nickname, or you were then allowed to take it and just that one, you know? Well, because he's dead now. It's not knocking as he's dead. But because it's so fucking long.
I also like nicknames, I think as a general rule need to be shorter than the name itself. Okay. So Josh, instead of Joshua or JJ, you can only go shorter
who sit in that role? I am. She makes shin pads. Okay. Oh, my shedding TV. Promise. That's a good that's a good one.
No, I think your nicknames are interesting. Because would I be a wound care if I took that and put it on
news.com day You are the age of Steve actually, there's something that is on your bio is that I want you to get rid of
our great it's on your Twitter and you know what? What would be he's the thing you update your bio once every month. Yeah,
I update I updated mine seven years ago. As anyone else noticing that Tommy's coming real defensive before
that. I actually noticed you changing because he had all the YouTube stuff. There are fucking well done. Row. And then I checked again the other day. Oh, I'd like to transform you. You transform yourself. But with no. Tell me what time why you call yourself a digital personality. Okay, I copy jewels land seven years ago. Yeah.
Don't be Jocelyn. Seven years ago. Digital person? What the fuck does that mean? That not a personality? It just feels like it's from the days of take it take a ride a personality bit. Digital personality is like what you mean you got a Facebook page? Yeah, it's, it's a bit I saw.
I saw a couple of guys getting a mention on an industry or radio industry website today. And that will pack and pumping them up. They like
I can't remember the exact language that we're using. But they're like, these guys are the next big thing. And you click through. And it's so interesting how
how media and how like even people talking about you can like, I was like, fuck these guys have been This is awesome. Yeah, he click through and it's like, are they don't, I was like, I wonder how much engagement they get on their podcast. And then I was like, I'll look at the writing. And it was like a chain said, Not enough reviews to like show writing. And this was like the big next guys. I can't remember their names. But that interesting.
Well, it's all personal PR. Yeah.
And if I can't speak for anyone else, I'll speak for you. I'm sure we both spent a bit of fucking personal PR. And our time I've done that. I remember when I got the contact for my local newspaper, though, doing a story. And then I remember I like was releasing a blog just like contacted them said, Hey, guys, could you could you run a little story, sent them a press release? And they did it.
And they ran the story. Yeah, they posted on Instagram last night. A photo from you in the paper. Yeah. Was that and i and i wrote back to it and said bit of personal PR day. So yeah, let's turn. Let's use the rest of this episode to talk nostalgia. Because I literally mean inch. It'll tighten it
because I was. That was very good now, because I am. I'm trying to check out things. And I started going through memory boxes. Do you have a Memory Box as in a physical memory book? Have you got a box full of all your old shit? Basically,
through most of that
I've got bits and pieces lying around. But no,
not not. I don't have what you've got. Why not? Like. So yeah, so I was doing Instagram Stories last night and a little bit this morning. Because I had left such a fucking mess. I need to the like, clear it all up. He has he so clean metals. It's better than what it was before this morning.
So I have. Yeah.
So you would have seen all these stories, all these things. So I've got like, all the student of the week. I've got Yeah, we're talking about a net. My old teacher, like one of my favorite teachers. She was so nice, so supportive. Like, because I was such a little nerd like, and so and even the things that I look at now, I don't realize how much she's shaped me in regards to like she'd written in a card. You know the thing, Josh, you've always got the right intentions. I thought that was really because it was a Cleve message, which was like, You fact things up sometimes, like you say silly things to show off. And the fact that you do all this stuff. So I thought that was interesting. So I've got all these old cards. I've got like, Postcards from friends when they were traveling. I've got
you know, just so many old bits and pieces the first bus ticket with Brian I perfume receipt that I bought, you know, from
Dave Ella. He's got the plastic bag bag. He made a little bit minimal minimally MIT, but we made the Docker he'd be disgusted Yeah,
it'd be well so what's your point? What are you what are you doing with the teaching also? So yeah, I was I was planning on teaching at all but there is so much like I say all of this as content opportunities hundred percent and even then as a kid like I had the foresight of when I was 12 years old, I drew a dick on my time capsule lucky I had to like fill out all these questions and I drew it kind of because I knew
that 27 year old Josh would fucking thing that's really funny. My fix it universally funny. Yeah. And so a bit yeah. So I've got all this stuff but I don't know. I mean, you've just you just chucked out a bunch of love letters
Yeah. Oh, they'll just laces but we talked about this and then my mom message me remember? And she said I'm throwing out all your stuff. Ah, yeah, that's right because I have all of this stuff that my parents gave to me is like waiting to get rid of it so here it is. So I've got pressure
I've got all these old photos and I just got rid of the big thing I did get rid of with cables I had and the funny thing is I had like little tags where it's like property of Harlem senior second college like the UK I found two cables and I must have accidentally taken home and she's never ever return they're completely redundant now you will want them but yeah I was doing like a big clean out because how many cables cables as such you know one of those things but
yeah the getting rid of stuff there's something really cathartic about it but I wonder if I'm going to get to a point where I just get rid of too much stuff
what is we talked about this on another episode it's it's almost bully behavior from other people because it was really hard I throw that stuff and then I felt guilty because people I shall not
wait so you think only behavior is in people saying you should you've got to keep all this down
or they feel something when you tell somebody that you've thrown at it yeah so when you tell me you have thrown out of these letters I think the physical ones are so good yeah and you start feeling sheet about well
I just didn't know whether like what was worth selling like I put this pile together of ship that I was going to sell and one of them included like a rip curl lanyard bracelet what the fact I think that was a cell pile might yeah you said like Who the fuck is going to buy that discolored rip curl landed I was like even if I get $1 for it. Right? So I started getting because my point is that rather than checking shit out, you might as well sell it but one of the things that's coming up is all my old cameras do I you know we're in a day and age with Casey Neistat, if you don't know is a YouTuber has his big fucking office space in New York, where he's got every fucking camera he's ever used. And that's like a big a big thing that people talk about now is telling their story of how they became a creator. It's almost as big fucking competition of who's been doing it for longer. And how, what fucking if the bigger the cameras when you started, in fact, an older, the better and all that sort of thing.
If, yeah, I mean, I've been using my old cameras in talking about stories. Is that where you got that fucking idea from, in fact, an earth but my point being join it, like, do we really need do we need to hold on to it? No, but for me, I, you know, my studio, it's, I feel like it's a workshop. It's, it's, it's, it's my man cave. Yeah, it's where I have the things I actually care about. I keep my old cameras. And like, I keep things that are really liked, it will be about to shoot I can throw at, but other than that, I don't really keep much. So I
had a bit I mean, you sort of a little bit contradictory in the sense of, I don't really keep much, but I do things that I really care about. And so what do you care about? So
so the the first of things is that the thing like your first because I found my first rode microphone right now, marketer finds he can teach for me, it's the, it's the camp. Like, if it's got a story around it. I like to keep it. But everything has a story. So the point that
well, if you like, to be honest, every physical item means nothing really, at the core of it. 100%.
And when we apply, we apply our memories to it. Yeah.
And so that's what I'm saying. I've applied memories. So. But fact now I've made a video about my first camera, I could probably teach it. So
that's, that is a really good point, which is like,
once you like, make a piece of content, and that becomes the memory and then you almost hashtag transition from having the memory in the thing because that's what Josh fields, Milburn always talks about. Another good example. I don't know if it's an American thing.
Joshua fields, Milburn like uses his full name. And I feel like a lot of American mates have these really long names, including middle names, or their fact like Thomas Jr, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, going on a test country on Earth, but
Josh from the minimalists, they talk about your memories and in your things, yeah, which I've quoted fracking hundred times.
Good though marketplace. So I'm, it's even like footage, right? I feel like it's the equivalent shooting and keeping footage on your hard drive. If you haven't done anything with it is like keeping rolls of film on the shelf. You could like, make something with it or put it out I liked it like, so I made a video at Bodhi and ask the family going to New Zealand. Yeah. And I wanted to make that more so because I had this great footage from it. And I wanted to, you know, package up the memory and then I'll put it out there now. It's it's out there. It's probably not coming off. Yeah. So if I lost everything, I've still got those memories and that I think it's like what's important to you. nostalgia is very important to you so maybe cave and all that shit is the thing that you when you have a kid or you have God kids Yes. You're having the Iran Yeah.
Cuz he too selfish. You've been through this
body. We ran at your place. I knew we put it on a fucking show over a BBQ body can sit down. Yeah. So yeah,
I do wonder because it does come down to like, what's the what's the point in Facebook, Instagram, or something? I don't know if we've spoken about this in detail. And it's a very painful topic. It's probably the same in the same realm of talking Fitness, Health Food. And we've had a sensible, we've had sensible conversations about that we had that Friday session where was very good, he's a question
getting rid of, or to statement getting rid of social media or just the other or just not posting who was who was talking about it. And I very much agree with them cut. remember who it was,
something's going on with you to be in the state of mind. Yeah,
to be obsessing about this and saying is such an issue. That's like minimalist, right, like the that's most when I was filming the minimalist around Australia and Australia and New Zealand, the thing that was coming up ease people would come up to the microphone, though, doing a q amp a, you know, I'd like people tend to those events, use the opportunity then to tell their life story before they'll have a question. So, so like, when I was 18 years old, if I can was hit by a car, and yeah, just like, fucking Seth Godin is very good. I've been watching YouTube videos with Seth garden and instead of conference is just like, too much info just fucking yells at Adam. Question. Yeah. And so the Yeah,
so I'm fact. So what
do they do? They they say
you say. So the thing that I've been thinking is, it's like to be a minimalist, you've almost had to go the other way too far. What, what is going to provoke you to think about your things? What if you're in a state of happiness in a state of like, you're feeling fine, you wouldn't think I need to get rid of this stuff. So there is a part of minimalism which you need to have gone too far. The other way people who've never been fash don't really go on diets, really?
Not really. And so like, I guess that's, that's part of it. It's like, and social media, I probably have spent too much time on it. Or I've been like, you know what, maybe, maybe it's a pacifier, maybe this thing that I've, you know, I'm using social media to feed this thing. For instance, traveling that desire to get the photo to be able to put on your Instagram or thinking about your fucking Instagram theme, like people do, I think if you is so I
don't feel like you. Yeah,
I mean, I don't, I definitely don't think about my Instagram thing. I do get a lot of entertainment. Like, I do enjoy posting stuff. Like, if you go onto my Insta stories. I posted like 20 things yesterday. Yeah, I was. Yeah, it was insight into how fast the mind works. Yeah.
Sounds like holy shit. I
and I only look through them because I was like, What the fuck CCD and posting so much it actually got really, you know, I love looking at engagement. And people viewing surprisingly holds people's attention. I thought people backing love nostalgia. Yeah, yeah. And you don't know where the fact it's going to get a you know what I'm going to find?
I think if, if you're in this space of thinking about it as much as you are. Yeah, maybe fucking try something like taking a break while you're overseas? Yeah.
colliding a bunch of photos. Not to say don't take photos. Don't every phone try it? I think definitely. So the you know, it'd be good to to use the the last little bit of the, the podcast to talk about future things that we have coming up, right. So one thing I wanted to mention was, we don't do much housekeeping. So I wanted to just mention that we do have our Instagram account which isn't that active at the moment. However, what I was thinking is that if you're listening to this Now jump on and your you've got your phone with you go on to Instagram now and follow the daily talk show. Yes, do that. And maybe if you already follow if you already follow us, just go on to our Instagram and like one of the posts so we know that you've been listening. That's that's one thing that will give Josh a digital Chevy. It's hashtag digital chubby. That's a really good domain name, digital chubby. And so there's that. And because I think we should start posting more on like, I'm almost like, thinking of doing that more than I am mind and personal stuff, just like and so that's one thing. The second thing is I wanted to preface an interview that we've got coming up in about a week's time. So people if they've got thoughts or questions can rightly so I follow a photographer who just lives close by what who's been doing some traveling lightly he did a post with all this these film roles. And he's heading to North Korea this week. Cool. So I've messaged him and said Hi Matt. Can we chat to you on the daily talk show about your experience of touring North Korea and what it's like and so he's a great to it so that will be early I think he gets back may six or something into Beijing so we're going to will have him live from Beijing at some point in the next week so you safety zone yeah exactly so if you have
I think it's fine over there yeah they're all
North Korea right now
right right now yes yeah maybe not three weeks ago
but it was enough it Kim Jong on and President moon holding hands and doing that thing across that was enough for you to be like,
there seems fine, I think if you're gonna go to the time, but then again, the reason I'm interested in even having this guy on, as you said yesterday, to me, it's the for the fact that it dude even wants to go there. Because it's not the place it's not on my bucket list. Yeah. And so for the fact he's dying, it's, I think that's interesting in itself. Yeah,
I would definitely want to go I I would love to, at some point. Like, because it to me, there's so much history, this is this, you know, but at the same time, I don't really want to support a tight ship
by, you know, funding spending three and a half grand or whatever the fact that costs I mean, that will be interesting, how much it costs,
was it So was there anything else? So that was I was quite enjoying dishing out the housekeeping.
So another bit of housekeeping ease that we, you know, when you when
you and I constantly talking about the future of the show, and things like yeah, and so if people have thoughts about their favorite shows what they're enjoying, because we are dedicating, you know, if you've, if you've listened at any episode, you're listening. Now, you are one of the early people to listen to the show. Because once we do 1000 episodes, just by looking, you know, I look at stats, and I'm watching it, like climb up and you know, chop digital get constantly getting a digital job. The thing is, it's like, yeah, so this, it would be great to have the people who are listening here to shape what this podcast is. So please send us an email high at the daily talk. show.com if you have any thoughts on the podcast what you want to hear, and because one thing that I've been loving is having the guests on, and things like that. We're not going to be a guests show with such Yeah, but I do I do like that. And we'll also be doing the the show while I'm away to which I'm fucking pumped about that. That's the one commitment that I'll be. I basically have on my trip.
Well, you need it, you'll need some technology for it. So yeah,
well, that's it. So that's why I was thinking rather than doing
social media posts. good way of like, fucking bringing in a little bit more of an audience, maybe five more people saying, hey, not doing any social posts if you'd like to, if I can hear about what I've been up to. And just listen to the listen to the
show. Like it well done. It's good show planning meeting on today's episode. Yeah.
And so please reach out to us because it is is always good. And I think that the other thing that would be good is I want to get how this another thing an intro?
Like an amazing Yeah,
cool. A really cool and try might have a tingling, a jingle type of thing. And then yeah, I would like for us to from Episode 100 to Episode 100 that when the jingle comes in, it's a good episode hundred will basically what if a feedback that we get from everyone we're going to include in episode to episode hundred is gonna sound a little bit different. I mean, I will have an American accent. Exactly. And I will actually be Joe Rogan.
Completely girl. Nice day old. Thanks
for by choice. No. So yeah, there's all that stuff. So I think that that's something I'm excited that maybe even you are working to. Yeah, like, just fucking new artwork, doing all the social type stuff. Because, you know, before we go make my fucking heads going a million miles an hour, the it's because of the nostalgia exactly, then all those chubby is exactly the same as a juul Chevy's. No, but you and I are talking about working together. Yeah. Closer. What do you think about that? Like, what's the business partners? Yeah, what goes because I've never had a business partner. I've had people who I've worked with closely. I've had arrangements with PayPal, dude,
I think I think the thing I've had business partners. Yeah, and one of them ripped me off. And I think you just know a person. But then also, it's like, the,
it's like the people who I know that started a company they called it x. Yeah. And then never knew it would build to a $20 million business. And then someone is trading on the X and has and so we had to meet up with them to fucking work out a handshake deal that then allowed them to try it as x. And now they gotta try try it as x as well. And so my point being, they never knew there was going to be that big. Yeah. And so that didn't go into it. Thinking was, I gotta be that be? Yeah, yes. I think for whatever we do, it's like, it is just what it is. And there are some safeguards that you have in place
going crazy. Fucking contract contracts. And what so shit like you have
Isaac shared the cart before the horse, the horse, the horse before the cart. So it's like growth, natural growth. Yeah, but I think for the fact that you and I can sit together for 30 minutes, five days a week, hundred and 50 fucking minutes away says a lot. Because we're been dreaming like you to to give people a broader perspective on things like we've been talking about changing my name to Joe and second, Josh is named the road and then guys, so it's,
um, no, we're talking about, you know, things like studio spaces or fact it might building something out so that we actually are doing podcasting on a more serious level doing, you know, a hybrid of video podcast, like, how to fucking how to actually make a business out of it. Because we don't make obviously, we make far more money from this. And we have all of our, the shit that we I think if you could get to 1000 episodes,
something will happen along the way. Yeah, to save it'll, even if it has a you know, what's better get all that way. Yeah, and the and the spark? I think it's, that's half of it. I think, what, what do you want the show to be and what don't you want this show to be? I think it's like, when I was in radio, I have to enjoy it. Yeah. And I think that's, I want it to feel like I'm enjoying it. And as much as sometimes it you know, it takes effort, it's, it's almost like exercise for me. Like it's almost like training
you wouldn't do it if you actually didn't like it. Because all the accounts that don't like out of the gym don't go to the gym. Yeah, and so you got to find something about it the locker enough and Sundays at Saks some days, you don't want to be there some days it's flat, it's just average of the eyes you feel like amazing, but it is rewarding. And so for that sort of I'm already finding with this yeah
and I think it's um it's showing it showing up every day and for me it's about like also not resting on our laurels like what could we do and so for me like having
Chris the guy who we're going to get on who's going to North Korea or who's probably there right now you know having guests on and just like being like this person assigned to bro over the weekend if we can get to a point where it's like we have people coming into the country you know, overseas Guess who are doing cool shit and we could be an option for them to actually and just fucking using our producer skills to fact and produce it ourselves and be like hey can you do you want to come on and just have some fucking fun and having a different type of conversation that's currently happen that's exciting we got a compliment and the quality of the audio today so I really hope from from Bobby who I bumped into I that's nice.
Thank you. Thank you, Bob. Now the digital chomp
chomp. Believe you digitally had
digitally hot could be the name of the episode. It would be good if anyone's got any. I love the nitty gritty of this. If you please if you've been listening and UK or not send me send me an email. So I've got like a couple of emails to get back to Sean was super fucking nice. On the email the other day subject line five stars. Alright, so yes, send us send us some emails. And we want to try and make this a real part of the show. And I think to be able to do that we need to scale of conversation. So we need enough ideas from enough people so that we have sort of a diverse set of hacking talking points. I agree. And I think that's why the guests Yeah, so great. Maybe fucking, if anyone's got a problem right now they're trying to solve if I can let us know and we'll solve it will fucking go around to the person tomorrow. I've got another LinkedIn
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