The direction of the show

Josh: The Daily Talk Show 75. Yeah, dude, just before I press record, I said, uh, do you want to lead this one? And you were saying it makes no diff— and as you're saying, yeah, press record.

Tommy: Well, it makes no difference because I always bring content to the table.

Josh: All right, settle.

Tommy: Um, mate, it's, um, good lead, good lead, by the way.

Josh: Keep going.

Tommy: Yeah, I just thought I'd interject. We're edging closer to 100, and I'm fucking excited.

Josh: Yeah, it's, uh, how much, how many more? Just quickly, let's see how good your math is.

Tommy: 25.

Josh: Yeah, good. I feel like the average Joe would say 35. Yeah, fucking idiot.

Tommy: Well, we're not the average Joe.

Josh: 25 is correct.

Tommy: And I'm just gonna first lead— we usually finish with people who have sent stuff through. Michelle, that email you sent through, I've been— it's actually open on my phone and I've half responded, but I'm I'm slightly inept when it comes to writing, and I feel like I should just directly, uh, I should say it on the show. I really enjoyed your email. Um, it was in response to you mentioning on the podcast after we had her on, uh, about talking to her or doing an episode talking to her around, um, transsexuality. Transsexuality. And she broke it down. She said, there's— if we're going to go down the rabbit hole, there's some things you need to know. And I really liked her points, and I really appreciate, because it's not like I'm judging her experience and her, I guess, thoughts around the subject, because I haven't experienced it. So I'm really looking forward to— she gave us a compliment that we're open-minded, right? But I— and then I thought about being so open-minded that my brain falls out. So I'm somewhere between my brain falling out and taking the compliment. So, Michelle, thank you so much for the email. I know you spent a bit of time, and there was some really Really amazing stuff, and I'm super keen and interested to hear your story.

Josh: The funny thing with Michelle's emails is there's a starring function on Gmail where it's like, if it's more than a couple of sentences and I can't— like, I need time to really digest it and read and all that sort of thing, I just star the email. And sure enough, you look at my stars, it's all Michelle because, uh, she's— I guess like she's very good at writing and writing almost like letters, letters to the editor style things.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And so, you just end up with— I've got so much to— I feel like I've got a novel worth of stuff that I want to read that Michelle sent.

Tommy: So, nicknames. I want to— That's what I want to talk about.

Josh: Okay. Mish. Oh, Michelle. Mish. Is that the nickname of Michelle? No?

Tommy: I don't know, maybe.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: It's a nickname. First of all, a nickname should be one that's not self-prescribed.

Josh: Okay. Because I did try and do that as a kid.

Tommy: I could imagine you doing that as a kid.

Josh: Tried to get Fridge off the ground. Yeah, Fridge.

Tommy: Was it the size of you that you were thinking?

Josh: Yeah, I think there was some sort of old footy player that used to be called Fridge, and it seemed like a good sort of inway for me being like a little bit bigger. To be and not being called a fatty, a fridge.

Tommy: Do you remember anyone throwing around the term frigid?

Josh: Yeah, absolutely.

Tommy: Oh, you're frigid. You won't let Jimmy wank ya.

Josh: You won't let Jimmy wank ya. That's the title of today's episode.

Tommy: No, I mean, that was— It's horrible, frigid, the term frigid.

Josh: Yeah. No, it was definitely— You wouldn't pull that. Jimmy either, but you wouldn't pull that. Well, Jimmy would pull it. He would. That wouldn't really— I wonder if they still say "frigid." I wonder why.

Tommy: Yeah, because he's implying that someone won't do a sexual act.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Which is really rapey nowadays.

Josh: It's very— I mean, I think it was always rapey. Yeah, but it wasn't as—

Tommy: It didn't have the cut-through it does now in the more politically correct environment.

Josh: But I feel like maybe it did have the same Yeah, I like, I think that the only thing's changed is like that we've like now been educated.

Tommy: I don't think it's like my balls had just dropped and I, you know, it just came out. Anyway, so nicknames. There's a few things. So, something's happened and I'm just wanting to gauge it, but I'll get to it soon. It's, that's what you call a hook, like just hooking.

Josh: Very good.

Tommy: But when you meet somebody It's, it could be, it's, it's almost like a tactic to be more endearing and build rapport.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Or it could go the other fucking way.

Josh: Yeah, it's so true.

Tommy: Joshie boy, how are you, bro? It's like, Joshie, or Andy's not Joshie boy. Yeah, a bully used to call me Joshie boy and he used to stick a pencil up my ass.

Josh: That's so true, mate. It's very, it's the, the tone of the show's, there's a specific tone. I'm enjoying it. The, uh, Byron Cook from, uh, Fox, you know, he got his name on the— he's on billboards now and stuff. He's a big deal.

Tommy: Big Byron.

Josh: Big Byron. Big Boy Byron. He calls me Baby JJ. Is there anything more condescending than Baby JJ? Hey, Baby JJ, just need some artwork made up for this little meme I've made.

Tommy: Especially when you're a shit kicker like a little fucking content producer.

Josh: Yeah, he loves— as you were. He did love calling me Baby JJ, and it has stuck. But for him? To you? Yeah, he still calls me Baby JJ.

Tommy: Okay, but that hasn't really caught on. No, no. JJ has Who came up with that? Who do you think first was to—

Josh: Fuck, I don't know, but it's initials, right? So, it's sort of—

Tommy: Yeah, but I mean, it's one that has to stick though.

Josh: Yeah, I think I would sign off all my emails JJ. I think it probably really took off during my Envato days when I was working there. But I read an article where I saw that people with nicknames get bigger pay rises.

Tommy: Interesting.

Josh: So, I was like, okay, that's— But you have the opposite because you prefer to go go with a nickname, Tommy, not your actual name. True. And if I say, say if I'm introducing you, I say, oh, this is Tommy, they'll be like, oh, hi, Tom.

Tommy: Yeah. They change the nickname.

Josh: Yeah. But I've definitely, it seems like there's a few names that people don't like to shorten. Andrews, like Andy.

Tommy: Don't like Andy?

Josh: Yeah, a lot of Andrews don't like Andy. A lot of Daniels don't like Dan.

Tommy: Melissa.

Josh: Don't like Mel. Liz.

Tommy: Not always. Yeah, some of it, some of them are Liz. Amy's good friend.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: I call her Mel. It's Liz.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Well, it's actually Liz.

Josh: I was trying to think, there was a name. There was someone's name a few weeks ago that I was hanging out with. And I was just completely fucking up their name, but I feel like it could have been a nickname.

Tommy: Well, Bobby, if your name was Bobby, maybe. I mean, Bob. Well, maybe they don't want to be called Bob. I bumped into a Bobby this morning. Shout out Bobby. He works on Easy Street. He's got a business in one of the train carriages that's— it's an old school train carriage up on the top of a building. It's fucking epic.

Josh: Wait, is it so Easy's Burgers?

Tommy: Yeah. And so there's 3 carriages up there. So one's a burger restaurant. The other's top floor of Bobby's joint. But my point is, I would never go to call him Bob, but maybe his name— Maybe wrong.

Josh: It's like I've got a friend named Georgia. I'll call her G. G? Won't call her George. George feels like it's— I don't know if I would like—

Tommy: Georgie.

Josh: Georgie.

Tommy: Either way. Yeah, it's an interesting one because, yeah, it's polarising.

Josh: You—

Tommy: I haven't called you JJ until I remember on start of this podcast, first few episodes, I was dropping JJ, and then it kind of— I like that.

Josh: And then it's so stuck. I'll call you TJ a lot.

Tommy: Yeah, I get TJ, Teej. Yeah, that's about it.

Josh: So really good bit of content. I'm really glad you're leading this. Any other references?

Tommy: The reason this all came out was because yesterday someone commented on my fucking O-Bike video, the gift that keeps giving. Yeah, it was nice, it was fair enough, it was, it was a nice comment. He— and then he started inboxing me, this guy from Brazil, really into bikes. He's like, I've been talking to the guy who, you know, the head of Obike.

Josh: Um, I nearly thought you were going to do an accent again.

Tommy: I'm not Matt Tilley, all right?

Josh: Great, you've got vibes. Come on, fuck off. Come on.

Tommy: Um, so anyway, he— and he, and he signed off, he said, you're a re— um, you're, you're a great urban reporter. Yeah, and that reminded me of in the paper when they wrote this O'Bike article and mentioned me, they gave me— well, it's almost a nickname they coined. They, they used a phrase called, which was, the urban Steve Irwin.

Josh: And I always fucking love that, the urban Steve Irwin.

Tommy: So I got called the urban Steve Irwin. I was like, that's fucking sick. Can I take it? If you— if someone says a nickname, are you then allowed to Take it and just fucking use it.

Josh: That one's a hard one.

Tommy: Oh well, because he's dead.

Josh: No, it's not because he's dead, but because it's so fucking long.

Tommy: Erwin, Steve Irwin, what are you?

Josh: But it's also like, nicknames, I think, as a general rule, need to be shorter than the name itself.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: So Josh instead of Joshua, or JJ, you can only go shorter.

Tommy: Who's sitting in that room?

Josh: I am.

Tommy: Shitty Mick Shitpants. Okay, old mate who shat himself in private school.

Josh: That's a good, that's a good one. Um, no, I think, uh, yeah, nicknames are interesting because—

Tommy: would I be a wanker if I took that and put it on, on my website?

Josh: I wouldn't do it.

Tommy: Coined, uh, news.com.au or The Age, Urban Steve.

Josh: No, actually, there's something that is on your bios that I want you to get rid of. Oh great, it's on your Twitter. Do you know what it, what it would be?

Tommy: Here's the thing, you update your bio once every month. Yeah, I update— I updated mine 7 years ago.

Josh: Is anyone else noticing that Tommy's getting real defensive before?

Tommy: No, no, no, that I actually noticed you changing because you had all the YouTube stuff there. Oh, fucking well done, bro. And then I checked again the other day.

Josh: Well, I'd like to transform.

Tommy: You, you've transformed yourself. But no, tell me what's on my You call yourself a digital personality. Okay, I copied Jules Lund 7 years ago.

Josh: Yeah, don't copy Jules Lund 7 years ago. Digital person— what the fuck does that mean?

Tommy: I don't know.

Josh: A personality, it just feels like it's from the days of a TV, right? TV personality. But digital personality is like, what, you mean you've got a Facebook page? Yeah, like it's, it's— but I, I saw, um, I saw a couple of guys getting a mention on an industry, a radio industry website today.

Tommy: Oh yeah.

Josh: And they were like fucking pumping them up. They're like, I can't remember the exact language they were using, but they're like, these guys are the next big thing. And you click through and it's so interesting how media and how like even people talking about you can like, I was like, fuck, these guys are big. Oh, this is awesome.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: And you click through and it's like, oh, they're I was like, I wonder how much engagement they get on their podcast. And then I was like, oh, look at their rating. And it was like iTunes said not enough reviews to like show rating. And this was like the big Next guys. I can't remember their names, but that's interesting.

Tommy: Well, it's all personal PR.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And if I can't speak for anyone else, I'll speak for you. I'm sure we've both spun a bit of fucking personal PR in our time.

Josh: I've done that. I remember when I got the contact for my local newspaper newspaper. They were doing a story, and then I remember I like was releasing a blog and I just like contacted them and said, hey guys, could you, could you run a little story? Sent him a press release and they did it and they ran the story. Yeah, they run.

Tommy: So you posted on Instagram last night a photo from you in the paper.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Was that— and I, and I wrote back to it and said, a bit of personal PR there.

Josh: Well, so yeah, let's turn— let's use the rest of this episode to talk nostalgia because I literally—

Tommy: give him an inch, he'll take a nap.

Josh: No, because I That was very good. No, because I'm trying to chuck out things and I started going through memory boxes. Do you have a memory box?

Tommy: As in a physical memory box?

Josh: Have you got a box full of all your old shit, basically?

Tommy: I threw most of it out. I've got bits and pieces lying around, but no, not— I don't have what you've got.

Josh: Why not? Like, so I was doing Instagram storeys last night and a little bit this morning because I'd left such a fucking mess. I need to like clear it all all up.

Tommy: Your house is so clean.

Josh: No, it was— it's better than what it was before this morning. So, I have— Yeah. So, you would have seen all these Insta stories, all these things. So, I've got like all the student of the week. I've got, you know how we were talking about Annette, my old teacher, like one of my favourite teachers? She was so nice, so supportive, like because I was such a little nerd, like, and so, and even the things that I look at now, I don't realise how much she'd shaped me in regards to like, she'd written in a card, you know, the thing, Josh, you've always got the right intentions. I thought that that was really, 'cause it was a clear message, which was like, you fuck things up sometimes, like you'd say silly things to show off and you fuck it, you do all this stuff. So, I thought that was interesting. So, I've got all these old cards, I've got like, postcards from friends when they were traveling. I've got, yeah, just so many old bits and pieces. The first bus ticket with Bree and I, perfume receipt that I bought, you know, from, you know, perfume.

Tommy: Matt D'Avella, who's got the podcast about being a minimalist.

Josh: Minimalist.

Tommy: He made the doco. He'd be disgusted.

Josh: Yeah, well—

Tommy: But so, what's your point? What are you doing with it? Ditching it?

Josh: Well, so yeah, I was planning on ditching it all, but there is so much— like, I see all of this as content opportunities.

Tommy: 100%.

Josh: And even then, as a kid, like, I had the foresight of— when I was 12 years old, I drew a dick on my time capsule. Like, you had to like fill out all these questions, and I drew a dick on it because I knew that 27-year-old Josh would fucking think that's really funny.

Tommy: Mate, dicks are universally funny. Yeah.

Josh: And so, but yeah, so I've got all this stuff, but I don't know. I mean, you've just chucked out a bunch of love letters.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh, they were just letters. But we talked about this and then my mum messaged me, remember? And she said, I'm throwing out all your stuff.

Josh: Oh yeah, that's right. Because I have all of this stuff. That my parents gave to me is like, we're going to get rid of it, so here it is.

Tommy: So, I've got pressure.

Josh: I've got all these old photos and I just got rid of the big thing that I did get rid of was cables I had. And the funny thing is I had like little tags where it's like property of Hallam Senior Secondary College. Like, I found 2 cables that I must have accidentally taken home and just never returned. They're completely redundant now. You wouldn't want them. But yeah, I was doing like a big clean out because how many cables? Are such, you know, one of those things. But, um, yeah, the getting rid of stuff, there's something really cathartic about it. But I wonder if I'm going to get to a point where I just get rid of too much stuff.

Tommy: Well, there's— we talked about this on another episode. It's, it's almost bully behaviour from other people because it— because remember how I threw out that stuff and then I felt guilty because people were like, sure, No, wait, so you think the bully behaviour is in people saying you should—

Josh: you've got to keep all this stuff?

Tommy: Well, they feel something when you tell somebody that you've thrown it out. Yeah, so when you tell me you've thrown out all these letters, I think, oh, the physical ones are so good. Yeah, and then you start feeling shit about it.

Josh: Well, I just didn't know whether, like, what was worth selling. Like, I had put this pile together of shit that I was gonna sell, and one of them included like a Rip Curl lanyard. And Bray's like, what the fuck? I thought that was a sell pile. I'm like, yeah. He's just like, who the fuck is going to buy that discoloured rip curl lanyard? I was like, even if I get a dollar for it, right? So, I started getting, 'cause my point is that rather than chucking shit out, you might as well sell it. But one of the things that's coming up is all my old cameras. Do I, you know, we're in a day and age with Casey Neistat, if you don't know, he's a YouTuber, has this big fucking, office space in New York where he's got every fucking camera he's ever used. And that's like a big, a big thing that people talk about now is telling their storey of how they became a creator. It's almost this big fucking competition of who's been doing it for longer and how— what fucking— if the bigger that your camera is when you started, and fucking older the better, and all that sort of thing.

Tommy: If, if— yeah, I mean, I've been using my old cameras and talking about stories. Is that where you got that fucking idea from?

Josh: Fucking oath. But my point being, do I need— like, do we really need do we need our— do we need to hold on to it? Not—

Tommy: but for me, I, you know, my studio, it's— I feel like it's a workshop. It's a— it's, it's a— it's my man cave. Yeah, it's where I have the things I actually care about. I keep my old cameras and like, I keep things that I really like. There's probably a bunch of shit I can throw out, but other than that, I don't really keep much.

Josh: So how did— but I mean, you sort of a little bit contradictory in the sense of I don't really keep much, but I keep the things that I really care about. And so what do you care about? So, so the, the first of things, is that the thing? Like your first— because I found my first Rode microphone, right?

Tommy: Now microphones you could ditch. For me it's the, it's the, the camera. Like if it's got a storey around it, I like to keep it.

Josh: But, but everything has a story.

Tommy: So the, the point that, um Well, if you like, to be honest, every physical item means nothing really at the core of it.

Josh: 100%. And we apply, we apply our memories to it.

Tommy: Yeah. And so that's what I'm saying. I've applied memories to it, but fuck, now I've made a video about my first camera. I could probably ditch it.

Josh: So that's a, that's a really good point, which is like, uh, once you like make a piece of content and that becomes the memory and then you almost hashtag transition from having the memory in the thing, because that's what Josh Fields-Milburn always talks about. Another good example, don't know if it's a fucking American thing, um, Joshua Fields-Milburn, like uses his full name, and I feel like a lot of American, uh, mates have these really long names including middle names, or they're fucking like Thomas Jr., blah blah blah. Anyway, going on a tangent.

Tommy: Worst country on earth.

Josh: But Josh from The Minimalists, they talk about your memories aren't in your things. Yeah. Which I've quoted fucking 100 times.

Tommy: It's good though. Make a piece. So, it's even like footage, right? I feel like it's the equivalent shooting and keeping footage on your hard drive if you haven't done anything with it is like keeping rolls of film on the shelf. You could like make something with it or put it out. I liked it. Like, so I made a video at Bodie and us, the family, going to New Zealand.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I wanted to make that more so because I had this great footage from it and I wanted to, you know, package up the memory. And then I put it out there. Now it's out there, it's probably not coming off.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So if I lost everything, I've still got those memories. And that, I think it's like, what's important to you? Nostalgia is very important to you, so maybe keeping all that shit is the thing that you, when you have a kid or you have godkids because you don't have any of your own. Yeah, because you're too selfish.

Josh: You've been through this.

Tommy: Bodhi will be around at your place and you'll be putting on a fucking show over a barbecue. Bodhi, come sit down.

Josh: Yeah, so I, yeah, I do wonder because it does come down to like, what's the, what's the point in, um Facebook, Instagram, all that sort of thing. I don't know if we've spoken about this in detail, and it's a very painful topic. It's probably the same— in the same realm of talking fitness, health, food. And we've had a sensible— we've had sensible conversations about that. We had that Friday session where it was very good. Here's a question: getting rid of— or it's a statement— getting rid of social media. Or just not posting.

Tommy: Who was talking about it? And I very much agree with them. Can't remember who it was. Something's going on with you to be in the state of mind, to be obsessing about this and seeing it as such an issue.

Josh: Well, that's like minimalists, right? Like that's most— When I was filming The Minimalists around Australia and New Zealand, the thing that was coming up is people would come up to the microphone, they were doing a Q&A, you know, like people tend to, those events use the opportunity they need to tell their life storey before they'll have a question. It's like, so like when I was 18 years old, I fucking was hit by a car. Question. And yeah, it's just like fucking Seth Godin is very good. I've been watching YouTube videos with Seth Godin and he's at a conference. He's just like, too much info. Just fucking yells it at them.

Tommy: Say the question.

Josh: Yeah. And so the, yeah, so I'm, fuck it.

Tommy: So what do they do? They say, people come up and say.

Josh: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the thing that I've been thinking is it's like, to be a minimalist, you've almost had to go the other way too far. What, what is going to provoke you to think about your things? What's— if, if you're at a state of happiness and a state of like you're feeling fine, you wouldn't think, I need to get rid of this stuff. So there is a part of minimalism which you need to have gone too far the other way.

Tommy: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: People who have never been fat don't really go on diets, do they?

Tommy: Not really.

Josh: And so like, I guess that's, that's part of it. It's like, and social media, I probably have spent too much time on it, or I've been like, you know what, maybe, maybe it's a, um, a pacifier. Maybe this thing that I've, uh, you know, I'm using social media to feed this thing. For instance, uh, traveling, that desire to get the photo to be able to put on your Instagram, or thinking about your fucking Instagram theme theme like people do.

Tommy: I think if you— So, I don't feel like you do.

Josh: Yeah. I mean, I definitely don't think about my Instagram theme. I do get a lot of entertainment out, like I do enjoy posting stuff. Like if you go into my Insta stories, I posted like 20 things yesterday.

Tommy: Yeah, I know. It was, yeah, it was an insight into how fast your mind works.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So, I was like, holy shit. And I only looked through them because I was like, What the fuck's this idiot posting so much?

Josh: It actually got really— you know, I love looking at engagement and people viewing. Surprisingly holds people's attention. I think people fucking love nostalgia.

Tommy: Yeah. Oh yeah, true.

Josh: Um, and you don't know where the fuck it's gonna go. You don't know what I'm gonna find.

Tommy: I think if, if you're in this space of thinking about it as much as you are, yeah, maybe fucking try something like taking a break while you're overseas.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Collating a bunch of photos, not to say don't take a photo, don't have your phone, try it.

Josh: I think definitely, so the, you know, it'd be good to use the last little bit of the podcast to talk about future things that we have coming up, right? So, one thing that I wanted to mention was we don't do much housekeeping. So, I wanted to just mention that we do have our Instagram account, which isn't that active at the moment. However, what I was thinking is that if you're listening to this now, jump on and you've got your phone with you, go onto Instagram now and follow The Daily Talk Show. Yes, please. And maybe if you already follow, if you already follow us, just go onto our Instagram and like one of the posts so we know that you're fucking listening. So, that's one thing.

Tommy: That'll give Josh a digital chubby.

Josh: It's a hashtag digital chubby. That's a really good domain name, digital chubby. And so there's that. And because I think we should start posting more on it. Like I'm almost like thinking of doing that more than I am my own fucking personal stuff, just like. And so that's one thing. The second thing is I wanted to preface an interview that we've got coming up in about a week's time. So people, if they've got thoughts or questions can raise them. So I follow a photographer who just lives close by in Collingwood who's been doing some travelling lately. He did a post with all this, these film roles, and he's heading to North Korea this week. So, I've messaged him and said, "Hey, mate, can we chat to you on The Daily Talk Show about your experience of touring North Korea and what it's like?" And so, he's agreed to it. So, that will be early. I think he gets back May 6th or something into Beijing. So, we're going to, we'll have him live from Beijing at some point. In the next week.

Tommy: So, your safety zone.

Josh: Yeah, exactly. So, if you have—

Tommy: I think it's fine over there.

Josh: Yeah. North Korea. Would you go to North Korea right now?

Tommy: Right now, yes.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Maybe not 3 weeks ago. But—

Josh: So, it was enough Kim Jong-un and President Moon holding hands and doing that thing across that, that was enough for you to be like, ah, they're alright.

Tommy: It seems fine. I think if you're going to go at a time. But then again, the reason I'm interested in even having this guy on As you said yesterday to me, it's for the fact that a dude even wants to go there because it's not the place, it's not on my bucket list. And so, for the fact he's going, it's, I think that's interesting in itself.

Josh: Yeah, I would definitely want to go. I would love to at some point, like, because to me there's so much history, there's so much this, you know, but at the same time, I don't really want to support a dictatorship, you know, by, you know, funding, you know, spending $3,500 or whatever the fuck it costs. I mean, that would be interesting how much it costs.

Tommy: So, was there anything else?

Josh: So, that was—

Tommy: I was quite enjoying you dishing out the housekeeping.

Josh: So, another bit of housekeeping is that we, you know, we're, you and I— He's making it up now. You and I are constantly talking about the future of the show and things like that. And so, if people have thoughts about their favourite shows, what they're enjoying, because we are dedicating, you know, if you've listened at any episode, you're listening now, you are one of the early people to listen to the show, because once we do, 1,000 episodes just by looking, you know, I look at stats and I'm watching it like climb up.

Tommy: Digital chub.

Josh: Digital, constantly getting a digital chub. The thing is, it's like, yeah, so this, it would be great to have the people who are listening here to shape what this podcast is. So, please send us an email, hi@thedailytalkshow.com if you have any thoughts on the podcast, what you want to hear. And because one thing that I've been loving is having the guests on and things like that. We're not going to be a guest show as such. Yeah, but, um, I do, I do like that. And we'll also be doing the, um, the show while I'm away too, which can be— I'm fucking pumped about that. That's the one commitment that I'll be— I basically have on my trip.

Tommy: Well, you'll need it, you'll need some technology for it, so yeah.

Josh: Well, that's it. So that's what I was thinking, rather than doing, um, uh, social media posts, good way of like fucking bringing in a little bit more of an audience, maybe 5 more people saying, hey, not doing any social posts If you'd like to fucking hear about what I've been up to and shit, just listen to the Dad Talks.

Tommy: Yeah, I like it. Well done. It's good show planning meeting on today's episode.

Josh: Yeah. And so, please reach out to us because it is always good. And I think that the other thing that would be good is I want to get, oh, this is another thing, an intro. Like get a really cool intro made up. A jingle type of thing. And then, yeah, I would like for us to, from episode 100, so episode 100.

Tommy: Is that when the jingle comes in? I think it's a good note.

Josh: So, episode 100 will basically, whatever feedback that we got, get from everyone, we're going to include in episode 100. So, episode 100 is going to sound a little bit different.

Tommy: I mean, I will have an American accent.

Josh: Exactly. And I will actually be Joe Rogan.

Tommy: You're almost there.

Josh: You're nearly bald. Thank you. Hurtful. By choice. No, so yeah, there's all that stuff. So I think that that's something I'm excited about. Maybe even new artwork and shit too.

Tommy: Yeah, I like it.

Josh: Just fucking new artwork, doing all the social type stuff because, you know, before we go, mate, my fucking head's going a million miles an hour.

Tommy: It's because of the nostalgia.

Josh: Yeah, exactly.

Tommy: And then all those Jewel Chubbies.

Josh: Exactly, so many Jewel Chubbies. No, but you and I are talking about working together. Yeah. Closer. What do you think about that? Like, what's the—

Tommy: Business partners?

Josh: Yeah. What goes— Because I've never had a business partner. I've had people who I've worked with closely. I've had arrangements with people.

Tommy: Dude, I think the thing— I've had business partners.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And one of them ripped me off. And I think you just know a person, but then also, it's like, um, the— it's like the people who I know that started a company, they called it X. Yeah. And then never knew it would build to a $20 million business. And then someone is trading under X and has— and so he had to meet up with them to fucking work out a handshake deal that then allowed them to trade as X, and the other guy to trade— trade as X as well. And so my point being, they never knew that it was going to be that big.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so they didn't go into it thinking it was going to be that big.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: So I think for whatever we do, it's like it is just what it is. And there are some safeguards that you have in place.

Josh: You don't also go crazy fucking contracts and all that sort of shit. Like, you have basic shit.

Tommy: The cart before the horse. Yeah, the horse before the cart. So it's like growth, natural growth.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: But I think for the fact that you and I can sit together for 30 minutes, 5 days a week, 100 50 fucking minutes a week says a lot.

Josh: Because we've been dreaming, like, to give people, uh, you know, a broader perspective on things. Like, we've been talking about changing my name to Joe and Josh's name to Rogan and going both going bald. No, so it's, um, no, we're talking about, uh, you know, things like studio spaces or fucking like building something out so that we actually are doing podcasting on a more serious level, doing it, you know, a hybrid of video podcast, like how to fucking— how to actually make a business out of it. Because we don't make— obviously we make fuck all money from this, and we have all of our other shit that we, um—

Tommy: I think, dude, if you could get to 1,000 episodes, something will happen along the way.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: To see if it'll even— if it has the, you know, hoots better get all that way.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And the, and the spark, I think it's, that's half of it.

Josh: I think— what do you want this show to be and what don't you want this show to be?

Tommy: I think it's like when I was in radio, I have to enjoy it.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And I think that's— I want it to feel like I'm enjoying it. And as much as sometimes it, you know, it takes effort, it's, it's almost like exercise for me. Like, it's almost like training. You wouldn't do it if you actually didn't like it because all the cunts that don't like going to the gym don't go to the gym.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: And so you've got to find something about it that you like it enough and some days it sucks. Some days you don't want to be there. Some days it's flat, it's just average.

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Other days you feel like amazing. But it is rewarding. And so for that, it's what I'm already finding with this.

Josh: Yeah. And I think it's, um, yeah, it's showing— it's showing up every day. And for me, it's about like also not resting on our laurels. Like, what could we do? And so for me, like, having Um, you know, Chris, the guy who we're going to get on who's going to North Korea, or he's probably there right now. You know, having guests on and just like being like, this person— I was saying to Bree over the weekend, if we could get to a point where it's like we have people coming into the country, you know, overseas guests who are doing cool shit, and we could be an option for them to actually— and just fucking using our producer skills to fucking produce it ourselves and be like, hey, do you want to come on and just have some fucking fun? And having a different type of conversation that's currently happening, that's exciting.

Tommy: We got a compliment on the quality of the audio today.

Josh: So, oh really, who from?

Tommy: From Bobby, who I bumped into.

Josh: Oh, that's nice. So, uh, thank you, thank you, Bobby.

Tommy: Another digital chub.

Josh: Yeah, exactly, full digital chub.

Tommy: I'm gonna leave you digitally hard.

Josh: Digitally Hard could be the name of the episode. It would be good if anyone's got any— I love the nitty-gritty of this. If you please, if you've been listening and you care enough, send me an email. So, I've got like a couple of emails to get back to. Sean was super fucking nice on the email the other day. Subject line: 5 stars. Thanks, bro. So, yes, send us some emails and we want to try and make this a real part of the show. And I think to be able to do that, we need scale of conversation. So we need enough ideas from enough people so that we have sort of a diverse set of fucking talking points.

Tommy: I agree. And I think that's why the guests, yeah, are so great.

Josh: Maybe fucking— if anyone's got a problem right now they're trying to solve, fucking let us know and we'll solve it. We'll fucking go around to the person's.

Tommy: Tomorrow I've got another LinkedIn approach that someone's tried with me that I want to bring.

Josh: Okay, it's a daily talk show, everyone. Please reach out to us and we'll see you tomorrow.

Tommy: See you guys.