#069 – Weight-loss/

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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 69.

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You just tell me you want some advice? Tell me jacket. I need some weight loss advice. Well, I happy to help now. It's actually it's not for me. I'm okay. I feel the moment. Yeah. But a friend of mine reached out to me. He said night, I'm fucking hundred and two kilos of blown out

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how tall is he

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it like our hot because it's too yeah

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and he should be hovering around 85 he he believes

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but we caught up and I was just listening to him and I said to him Do you know just you

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know I say to him dude you got to stop being so smart you have the answers to everything that every reason that you aren't doing something there's a fire an answer for it I said like why he doing he's got the answer why hasn't given it a go he's got the answer why is it in shoot food he's got the answer and I said they're all the wrong answers you need to shift the answer. And I was so fascinated and it's like you've been through all that. Yeah.

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And you're very smart and you know what to do. And you know, it's like him. He knows what to do. But he's not doing what he knows. Well, there's been a transition in your thoughts thought to right. So like, for me, I say the progress in your in your thinking. Which was how to reframe which I think is more positive for him. And actually would probably it's a it's an enabling thought, right? Rather than just being like, make you just coming out with fucking excuses. reframing it to being like that you You're too smart, You're overthinking it is actually a really good language shift that I think would probably be a lot more positive and probably would, you know, personal trainers could take a lot from you know, because there are there are a lot of people who are super wealthy, super smart, whatever it is, and they still can't like I look at fucking Oprah. Oprah has everything at her disposal. And she still can't fucking keep the weight off. If Oprah can do it. James Packer also billionaire Yeah,

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he's blown out.

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It's annoying, isn't

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it? Because I could have a private chef. And so anyway, the conversation with this guy kind of at the end of it. I said, Who do you know, think about the person you want to be? Mm hmm. And, you know, who is that? And what do you have to do to be that person, you know, having that, you know, that guy who's fit who can wake up and go and go for a run or like, Who is that person? You know, thinking about that, but it was just an interesting thing. Because Have you have you been through that way you like, now, I know I don't do it, because I'm fucking lazy. And I know that it's because this, this and this, and then it just like you've answered it, right? I think it's a it's a matter of prioritization. It's, um, it's like what your mate Craig Harper talks about, which is like, you're not time Paul, you just don't give a fuck about this thing, right? And so

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I think it's a prioritization problem. And I also think it's a proximity problem. Example, being in Queensland, I couldn't fucking believe how many attractive people in one space maybe a bit Bogan, but fucking attract, like, super attractive. And yet, just like lane 10, it was ridiculous. And just the, you know, four or five days that I was there, I was already like, I was feeling healthier, but I was making healthier choices or wanting to make healthier choices. Is this a tourism Queensland? Eddie's This is the trip move to Cleveland? Well, they need to do something after they come games. fuck up. But the, ya know. So I think that proximity plays a big part in it. Because it's like, What is it? What is it about this place that has, and it's it's lifestyle, there's a, I forgot the exact name, but it's like the blue mind or something like that. I I'll put it in the show notes. It's the first time I've actually added to the show notes in a very long time. So it's going to create a box my P o box, which is fucking dormant bit know the, there's a TED talk that talks about when you at the ocean, this something that basically happens where all your anxiety goes away, and nice. And my mate who's moved to surface paradise feels it, I felt it. And so I think that partly it's if he's got a fucking desk, like if his priorities his work, and he's working in a fucking tower in Melbourne, or whatever, whatever job he is, or you're, in fact, if you're in London, it's going to be a lot harder to do those things. And if you're in Los Angeles, and every single day, if I can go home, you see people out running and blue skies, anywhere,

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the 25 degree. Yeah,

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so I think that local, I reckon location plays a huge part in this. But there it gets to the a certain point where it's like that either is a contributing factor, but it can't be the excuse I in fact, I English also, I think that and that's the thing. So you can, you can do things which will help it move towards one way. So for instance, if you, you know, there's that I forgot what book it was called that they would use the phrase excuse itis, I think it's like one of the fucking like, how to be great of parking requirements. Remember the exact one, I think it's actually from eat the frog, one of like, a self help type book. But excuse itis, how many like how many excuses that we apply for not being able to do what we want to do? And yeah, so I think that you can use those locations as a reason. But I think that probably what I found is a good mechanism is saying, okay, so if I'm not near the ocean, I could easily say, because I'm not near the beach, I can't, I can run right. But there are, we do make some choices and we prioritize some things. So if I'm choosing that I want to prioritize living in Melbourne, then one of the effects of that is that I won't be able to run on a beach each day. So then you have to replace it with something else. So I think it's really like tapping into those excuses, and realizing the empowerment in choice. So it's not like, I'm stuck here. I can't do this. It's like I'm choosing to be here. And if I'm choosing to be here, then one of the things is that I'm not going to be able to run outside every day, because the weather is shit. But then you create things around that. So

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it's a hyper responsibility. Yeah, it's,

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it's about responsibility. And it's a around realizing that these a choice, it was like a friend of I remember a friend of mine, when I worked at the radio station, she was hating a job. And I said, well, quit. It's just like, why can't quit, because I'm just about to, you know, I want to get this house since its mortgage, and I don't know what else I would do. I'm like, Well, it sounds like you're doing the job that you have to do right now. And so it was reframing it being like, Okay, if there's enough reasons to stay, you're choosing to stay and make that it's not that you're trapped in this here. It's that you are realizing that at this point, right now, the best thing for me is to be at this job yet. And whilst it's not the future may or the thing that I want to be doing down the track, it's the best thing right now

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is also the the people who are in shit situations. And then if they actually start to apply the responsibility on where they are, is because they've got themselves there. And it's Yeah, what they're doing. Yeah, but when they realize that what that has been their responsibility in there in a shift situation, it's depressing it, that's when it's like, Fuck, may I've just done this to myself. Yeah. And so I, I get that it's hot. It's, but it's a first step. It's like, awareness around anything, is the first step to changing in alcohols and, you know,

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Alcoholics

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Anonymous, I'm sure, like, it's the same type of thing, right? Like for you to be able to make change, you need to realize that, it's like that you've been a contributing factor, right? Like, if you're fucking blaming a boss, or blaming a company, you can't fucking change that. But you can change your actions. So that's been, you know, that's definitely been, my focus is on, okay. It's, and it's also micro choices to, I think that is the contributing factors to Simon, you have these things, right. Which is like, it's the, you need a mechanism to be able to, in a moment, be able to prioritize when you're,

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you might be low on fucking motivation and things like that. So having having mechanisms so that even when you're fucking tired, you're still going to rock up and do the training session. Whatever it is. Yeah,

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it's hard. It's and it was hard, like listening to my friend. Talk to me like this. It's like,

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it seems so simple. Just start and do something, because you've done it all before. And you've been a fucking ripped motherfucker. Yeah, but now you just blown out and you just being lazy. And it's like, these are his words. I mean, why is he a copy? Fact? It's windy. I want to go out I got a breakfast. I need a bait this thing? Yeah, time. I'm too busy it but

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you know. Yeah. It's just all the stories telling himself. And I

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think the other thing that helps me is there's someone with less resources, less time, less money, you know, that is doing it. Yeah, there's a lot of fucking lane dudes in Eastern Europe or something that's on 400 bucks. If I can month, you know, like a is it's

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you don't have to be rich to be fucking healthy. And so I think that that is part of the thing as well, which is like, Okay,

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what is 20 minutes out of you? I think one of the things ease our

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it's that all or nothing approach it saying, Okay, if I'm going to do it, it's going to be this huge scale versus small incremental improvements, which won't necessarily be be saying visually so quickly, but it's a lot more sustainable. Yeah, yeah,

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20 minutes a day, five days a week across a year is so much time

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Yeah, that you've invested. But per day, it's a minute amount. There's a great book called mindless eating. It talks about the psychology of eating and how these micro decisions impact our life. So it's, he'll take something like, if you have a Mars bar every week, it will equal to every year you gaining three pounds. Yeah, right. So then you start working out those types of things and say, Okay, well, then it becomes very easy to make those micro choices. If you start thinking about it. Words, like Actually, this thing here is going to be way more ways because you contributed over a year. I think that can be powerful. Yeah,

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it's

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sad. I went to France that Craig Harper he did like a talk. Yeah, it's called renovate your body, I think. And there was not an 2% women there and a lot of them were over wide. And just, you know, he just, it was really, it was actually the day that I'd spoken to my friend about this stuff. That night, I was filming the event for him. And everyone there was just struggling with this. And there was a woman who came and she walked up the stairs and she sat down next to my camera

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severely overweight struggling so much and I like it's probably not the right thing. But I felt sorry for Yeah, that she'd like literally done this to herself. You know, this. Sure there might be some thyroid problems or but essentially the, this was a woman seriously struggling she was putting your hand up saying, I've just struggled getting white off and what I'm getting at here as I looked around the room, like there's such a journey for all these people interview Julie because there's no one thing there's no like, one fucking you know, like, I'm thinking about my friends mindset. And then all these other people have their own unique stories and mindsets that they all have to go down. It's like it's a fucking journey. Yeah.

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And it's also it's a personal journey. And it's one that so like, my mate nice on wants to lose weight. It's got a few health things like sleep apnea, and stuff like that. Which makes it hard in regards to like, just quality of life how it is yeah. And so you know, we went for we were walking along the beach I was like, what would you want to just try and little run let's do a kilometer let's just try kilometer

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and it was fucking interesting going through that,

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that process with him. I Oh, I wish that I could be there every day to be that forced to be out. Because when it's when it's the first step. I don't know. It just feels so easy to be like not man, I can't do it anymore. And he ended up doing that he he jogs the whole k we did a seven minute Columbia, which, you know, on my own, I'd normally be doing six, seven K's like, it's fucking good. 77 minute guy. You know, it's, it's a it's better than a walk. It's a jog. And yeah.

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But it was. It was interesting where he did it. He felt great doing it. And those moments that he he was going to start you know, there was probably three moments where the whole thing Yeah,

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some of the things that I felt were helpful were let's let's just keep going to this flag. Like It's so fucking psychological. It's all about like, it's like dealing with a baby, right, like, say with Bodhi or he might wake up any minute he's in the other room yeah well it's like that radical radical shift right where you say okay I think over here like it's it's it's that sort of what do you call it like distraction yeah it's creating a distraction and that's literally what it was like on that run where I'm like we're just going to go to this flag and as soon as we got to that flag I'd be like okay we've only got 300 meters now 300 like that's facto you park your car 300 meters away Let's just keep keep running

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but yeah I just I remember when I was a you know in footy team, that's when I was you know, high school nostalgia or less drama in devil hills footy club, and that was a fucking huge struggle, because so much of it is attached to identity. So it's like, I am the fat kid, I'm not meant to really be a good runner. And we take I think we take those physical signs. So like, you know, lack of, you know, breath and all that sort of thing as reasons why we can't do it. Like, like, I'm not designed to be able to do it versus thing it gets better.

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Craig talks a lot about an emotional tipping point

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in most things, you know, weight loss, especially, it's like the emotional tipping point could be being shamed by somebody publicly, or it could be having a marriage breakdown because many things and so they, it kicks you into gear and it's so it like, it definitely happens if you had one of those tipping points. Well, I think that we've spoken on the podcast previously. We call it the crucible moment. And it's the it's the rock bottom it's it's the you needing to go to rock bottom or having something extreme happening to happen in your life to then get a new perspective. So for a lot of people that might be

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you know, a real health is a huge one right? where it's like, I had a friend who had some health issues after she had a baby and that was enough for her reframe everything, like when you nearly fucking die. Yeah, all of a sudden, you start to ask like, what is important in a real way for me, nothing specific comes comes to your weight loss. I mean, yeah, for for weight loss, I think um,

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are you back you fact the back

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Yeah, yeah, so the battle absolutely the back was my back was the number one thing so it would have been actually looking at the specific moment it was being in I think it was like Frank stun having gone to a sports doctor

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after getting my MRI done and

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mum Whiting in the car as I tried to get into like trying to like move slowly to get into the car and

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yeah real like it not being really good news and regarding You know, I'm being told you know, there's a 80% chance that you can need surgery in three months and surgery isn't guaranteed to help so that was feeling pretty fucking

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I was feeling really down then. And I think I was like okay so if it's a difference between walking and having this fucking instant gratification that is food I'm just going to just reduce what eight so I like lost you know, in the course of a few months, a couple of months was 10 kilos and then just intuitively went down you know, I went from 110 down to 100 and then over you know, for us our years went down until where I am now

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I just saw one of my old PT clients in the supermarket yeah and I avoided like the plague yeah he's he's he's a he's an interesting character yeah on the cafe around here yeah but when he used to come same a fact he was so lazy he was like he ended up sometimes is rocking out the garbage I'm Maggie but I'll pay a fast I took his money because he fucking had had a prime time slot and I took his money but anyway he's literally doubled did a double take it wasn't even that overweight, maybe 15 like you can hold 15 kilos on your body and and just be looking a certain way you know it's like if you don't you don't look like you're severely obese or anything. But he would literally be 15 kilos law he looks like in different dude. But I know he went through a divorce. Yeah. And, and now he lost a lot of white when and was probably I'd say it's one of those emotional you know, it's hard on us as many things going on. You should everything shifts. Yeah, you

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should stop eating. Because he's so he's, he's lost a little weight loss so much. Yeah, I think that maybe you got a PT that just wouldn't accept this money.

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But I think

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the other piece to these seas, I think that we must the pan we give too much white to our white as well, like. So I think what white does is it's a it's a it's a sign of other things, right? So I think it's a sign of

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not move. It's a

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what's the word, it's an outcome of multiple factors. So it's moving, like, how much you moving, how much you're eating all of those types of things, which are all these other points where it's like, if you're so we so I think that's like the interesting part two, where it's like, I actually don't think it's necessarily the, the white ease part of it, right? Feeling like your law is a good feeling. But the other thing too, is being overweight is a sign that you're not moving enough and you're eating too much. And those two things are like an important part of happiness. So the thing is that even if you're not at the white that you want, if you can just go and move more and eat less without even thinking about that outcome. That's actually maybe where the happiness lies as well. That makes sense. So even taking white out of it and being like, Okay, I'm not moving it like this is a sign that I'm not moving enough. So

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I've been thinking about this question, do you can you be happy being obese and obese is the technical to you know, like it's

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a base just doesn't mean you're fat. obese means according to a measurement based around things. It is what it is,

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I guess I would ask, What is happiness? Yeah,

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well, I think, yeah,

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I guess it's a broad thing, if you're going to break it down,

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what's of you? But I think if you actually break it down, I think it's like, okay,

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okay. I guess when it's relating to someone who is has white problem

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well, so I think that that's part of it, right? If it's a, if you call it a white problem, then you've inevitably already framed it up as a negative walk.

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A white is a metric and it's okay. Your body's holding more fat than it needs because essentially, body fat on you is energy being stored. That's all it is. It's your body conserving energy into the fat stores for potential food crisis. Yeah, but, you know, it's like, obviously, someone who is overweight, you're seeing a result of the making some less optimal choices for their body. Yeah. And so I guess when you said, you know, if you're not to look at, it's like, I you when you were at your, your heaviest? Yeah.

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And number doesn't matter. You were, well, yeah, I can only talk it. So my personal experience, I can't feel happy, I'm overweight, because it's, it's leading to all of those other things I spoke about, which is like, I'm not moving enough. I'm not doing all those sort of things. I think that from a broader perspective, if we take culture out of it, if we take out cultural perception, yeah, if you're a

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maybe it doesn't matter as much like So say, for instance, if you are a

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if you are a 70 year old Greek man

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living in grace

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to like it, I know when I travel, or whatever, you will see, you know, different nationalities and the older dudes, and I've got a big belly and stuff my

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body. Yes, like, so. Chill. Yeah, right. They

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don't, they don't give a fuck. So like, yeah, so I think from a happy as point of view, like, if they're not applying these cultural expectations around, this is how I should look,

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or this is what it's going to mean for me to be able to, for me to fucking do my job. But the right thing, like if you find him playing cards, you know, if you grew up, but yeah, like, it's a

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set of tell him, it's, I think it's,

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but it's a different world. So I think that it's, um, it's a loaded question, because I think there were a lot of people who are trying to fake it and saying, okay, I am happy.

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I'm happy in my skin. And now I have a white and I know it. Yeah, you know what it is? It's a fucking new idea. Question. It's a magazine? Who? Who? weekly? Yeah, you'd say, can you be happy when you're overweight? Yeah, I could imagine that. But I thought about the other day. And I thought

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regard regardless of knowing who the person is, it's like having a car that's running poorly. Your body is the car. And if the engine is it has, you know, fact oil in it, and it's got the wrong fuel going in. And it's and it will function like sheet and that's a human body. Anyone who's out there, regardless of happiness is like the car when it's running optimally. Because you fit you putting the right things in, it will be a better experience. And I think for humans and our bodies, it's like, I know I don't do it. I'm not I don't fucking fuel my body. Like I should. All the time. Yeah, but I know when I do I feel so much better. What if

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we take that analogy? Yeah. And we extend it to this.

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I know you can go now

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it's better than mine. So taking that car analogy yet on your get you in with

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that the idea is like, so your assumption is that the the main purpose of the car is to drive and it's to go somewhere. That's life. Yeah. So for instance, well, maybe that's a function within life. But what about this? What about if your car is actually one that fucking like, that's not about driving around. And it's about like, being on shows, or fucking like, or having like, a luxury car, which you don't drive that much, but you look at it, you can appreciate it, and all that sort of thing. So it's the difference between someone who's fucking moving around every day, because they going to their job. And the Greek dude who's sitting, he's not really moving that much. He's playing his cards to slow a lifestyle. He doesn't need to drive if I can 100 Ks, so he's not necessarily going to see the effects that it's having. It's like, if you don't know,

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have you been to grace, the fact that heals there as soon as he walked from the card shop back to his house? Yeah, he's had to tackle 1000 steps. And

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so I think that definitely, there are moments where if you don't drive the car at all, the oil starts to fall, everything starts the fact that you need to move the car. Yeah, but you're not necessarily you're not going to notice that in it's when it's parked. So he's not like him sitting around. He's not necessarily going to feel it. But to your point, every time he wants to go to a fucking new car show he's got to move is going to feel it in that moment. And so it's the friction if, you know, we've spoken about friction before, but him him having to move if he has to move, that's going to be a friction point where it's like, I'm carrying too much stuff, right? Whereas if you are, you know, if, if you're a car that's got all you know, a boot full of fucking concrete and super, super heavy, will you notice it if it's parked? No, but as soon as you move, as soon as you have the friction point, you can start realizing it. Yeah,

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so I'll have to move though. I know, it's like. So we do. I think what everyone needs a sports car, I

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thought it that's a thing. So 90, 99%

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of cases it's, it's, it's the happiness is obviously going to be attached to your weight of obviously, I've realized that psychologically, people think differently. I know that there was

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there's some studies around inflammation and depression. And so being overweight creates inflammation, which would then potentially what some of these new studies are saying leads to more likely having mental health issues as well. So I think for the most, I think that using using it as a get out of free card or saying like

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saying that I'm fat and happy? Yeah, I don't know. I think for the most for most people, it's a prioritization point of view. So they, what are they actually prioritizing at the moment, it's probably very fucking small. Maybe if you're an dishonor and your job is your editing films and you're fighting overweight, and you're sitting and you're doing all this stuff. But there's enough like, you're getting so much fulfillment as an editor and so much fulfillment doing that, that you don't actually necessarily lot going outside and all that sort of thing. Maybe that works well,

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I mean, the, the body's allowing you to do that thing. That's the editing bit. So that's why moving it and fueling it properly, will allow you to do more of it. And I guess that's we're simplifying to the great but it's like there is no doubt that optimal trading your body and optimizing it, yeah, it helps you live a life that you can then be happy, you know, because, like for me, I don't think it's like literally pushing a barbell from my chest on a bench. Yeah,

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it's just, I have a movie. It's, it's moving around. But I think the other thing is, it's like I've been thinking about fucking fruit. You know, we're talking about fruit salads being feedback for Yummy, yummy, yummy fruit salad. It's no, I've been thinking about the practice of backing buying produce, I fucking rarely buy produce, like, it's, I'm, I'm either going out to dinner, we change the middle name to over it's done the exact. Let's charge Jansen, I get 10% off on everything. No, but so that that is that's been something from the whole Queensland experience I've been thinking about which is like

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it was actually where it came from, was my mate Nissan had a bag of dried mango right fucking delicious was from Costco and you look at it like the second ingredients show guy like Pat or whatever and then the fruit being dry a sugar content yeah it was so fucking good. I think at like it was so delicious. But it may be thinking I'm like you know what, how much more do I enjoy this versus just eating the mango Mike actually not that like I fucking love the mango just as much and I that sometimes I think we've we've started to confuse things so we like we demonize fucking fruit and shit like that whereas I reckon I don't recognize that many fat cons that eating fruit and that's the reason that they're fat you know not know but I think that we've created a world where that's almost like the that's the thing so I think that your fruits not your problem

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yeah if you're eating fucking Cadbury yeah 700 grams a day yeah like yeah spot on yeah it's it's it's adding more calories to already over the top calorie intake yeah it's like yeah it's like the six meals a day it's actually they say that it's not the six meals a day that's making it it's like the choices that you make when you know you have to eat six meals a day you're not going to fascinate seeks lots of McDonald the day

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well yeah, it's about structure and and this is where those Keystone habits come in. So there's the Power of Habit book talks about Keystone habits, it's those small habits which then lead to bigger things. So may drinking liter of water in the morning means that I wake up, I don't go on my phone, I go get a glass of water, I then need to piss so I'm moving more. So all of these things I I feel fuller. So all of these things lead to bigger things. So Keystone,

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Keystone habits are a big part of it. But just finally there's there was another study that was done where and Tim Ferriss talks about it and he's book Four Hour Body where there was two groups of people,

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one group just I normally did the normal thing the other group was told to take a photo of their food every time they act they white everyone. And they were like losing white, like the people who took photos last white. So that Keystone habit of just taking a photo of your food was enough to be mindful, because we always underestimate how much we're eating and overestimating how much movement we're doing. So if you think that you're doing so many times, I'm like, fuck have done 10,000 steps for sure. You looking at 7000. So that's, that's a real consumer.

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The

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this I mean, habit saying new like form new habits is like,

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what, what's behind that is like, you need the strategy. A strategy could be those photos or a strategy could be writing everything, like creating a Josh diary, which is your movement, your food, the water intake, you mindset, what you're feeling like, and yeah, that's a strategy to sort of the cat. Was it the part mental eyes, your life? Yeah,

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but I think the thing is, you can't have too many at once. I think we try and do too many things. Taking photos would work for a lot of people. Yeah,

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but it's the other side fucking post them on instead. Right?

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The other the other thing is, it's like if you're around

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if you're wanting to start a healthy habit, actually have a physical fucking calendar where you cross it out every single day. And that process once you start once you get 45678, 910

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days, it's like the daily talk show. There's no fucking way that we're going to miss an episode in our 70 in the 17th episode ride or 70 sec. Because, like, we're fucking done it like we've actually we've created this habit and it cemented now it's an expectation that we have for ourselves. And there's no like, we even we can not talk for half the day. But we still know that at some point that commitments happening because we've said it and we haven't had these days where it's like, that's too hard. So yeah,

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we've managed to riff on that for a while.

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So daily talk, show everyone the most sane conversation between you and I about health and fit with that, was that a goal of yours do you think, did you come because I wanted your advice on this stuff? Because I I definitely feel like the conversations as much as it's like, I've been frustrated my life with speaking of people that are serious about losing weight, or, you know, you know, how you can be frustrated with somebody talking about that their weight loss journey,

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but not even just weight loss, apply it to anything. Yeah, apply to business, apply it, you know, people saying, I'm not fact I've got no work, it's like, Okay, how many people have you contacted today? Like, I can get real fucking mad about that. And so I think a level of empathy with these sorts of things. So I think restructure, reframing things to actually be a positive where it's like, Okay, what is the positive attribute that stopping this person doing this thing? And how can you actually use software to see if they're overthinking it? And then what is the mechanism so for instance the

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the thing around blood tests and stuff like that, like you don't need to fucking blood tests like if that is going to be the thing that's going to help them if that's gonna create a crucible moment or if that's going to make them feel it's like wearing

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I find when I get a new pair of glasses a bunch of things change like case not yet definitely not the case like it's almost it's Keystone habit bits affecting like, it's a it's a tipping thing that happens where it's like, clothing changes naturally. Yeah, fact in my weight because I'm like, when you buy glasses, they sort of for a certain frame, you know, sort of face shape and shit like that. I just like it's a confidence thing. It is literally like, what is your Adderall? Yeah, we spoke about this the other day but it's identifying like, what's the thing that's going to give you the confidence to do it because it's the only thing that stops what's stopping you isn't your abilities it's your confidence in your abilities. He said to me this is my friend again and

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you know I was thinking maybe to take photo like before I was like if that is what you think is going to help you do it yeah so whatever you're thinking do it because there's a chance it will work because you've thought it up or at least you gonna yes

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excuse is type of thing right? Like if that's the thing like I would never criticize someone who's taking a step that is the one that's moving forward if you need to buy the shoes like we know that buying run as buying fucking equipment isn't the answer but if that's the thing that they if that's the fucking barrier that they giving themselves let them like let them remove every single barrier yeah exactly and then work it out like by the bike but do whatever you need to do and then have the mindfulness to say did that actually fucking help in the end it but it might be the thing that triggers to say okay like I've got no excuses now I'll tell you what you didn't ad spend I then hundred dollars on these audio Gabe it fuck. It sounds good. It's great. It's great. It's handy is fact or it runs the daily talk show. Hi. The Daily talk show.com or send us a your physical mail p o box. 400. Abbotsford Victoria 3067.