#045 – Getting rid of things/
- March 19, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Monday March 19 (Ep 45) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett. –
It feels like it’s been a while since we’ve chatted. With Josh finishing up filming The Minimalists in Australia and New Zealand, getting rid of stuff is on our mind…and bargains.
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Happy Monday. Everyone. 45. It's a daily talk show. TJ it's been, it feels like we haven't caught up much. I know, did you just open up Google to look at what's happening in the news on a story to match, like, going into our email to see if we've got any email on the high the daily talk show. It's probably this is probably more pre prod. But you'll be happy to know nothing, nothing. But we do read them out. Usually, at the end of the show. We do get an email to get if you send us an email at high at the daily talk. show.com we read it and we we we pride ourselves on having mates on the internet. Who are you that listen may it's
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it's crazy how you can form relationships online. Have you made many friends online?
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Well, technically, our relationship grew from online from being able to communicate to each other. That's true. Yeah. So I sent you a message we talked about this couple days a week ago. Yeah, but I but I sent you a message. So I guess it's the it's the initial communication then grows the relationship. I've met so many people online. Well, Matt D. Avila Yeah.
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I'll probably hasn't listened to this podcast. And you feel like you've just you've got it. We all use other examples too. But no, we very quickly I met Dave Ella guy who
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directed minimalism, the documentary, which is on Netflix. He also made a film called design a documentary called design disruptors. And yes, him and I connected on social media. He came to Melbourne a couple of years ago, we caught up and now I messaged him,
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he makes YouTube videos. I comment he comments back to mine. And then you just start building that if I went to LA, I'd probably hit him up. Absolutely. And yeah,
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so then from there, he suggested
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me for a, getting a bunch of B roll for the minimalists. Who were the stars of minimalism, so I've been in Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland filming them. Yeah, man, that has happened so many times. Simon Taylor, who I made the mini documentary on I who wrote for Jay Leno. stand up comedian
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he
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Melbourne boy, but
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how just on the friends thing at what? When can you say on my mate? Because I think when you become friends, actual friends, you and I and our actual friends. We have a lot of we're good mates. And then we have a lot of acquaintances. Yeah, but then. So for example, if I was to drop in, oh, yeah. What am I good minds? You could probably and I me does it to me as well, because she pulls on the data from our five years. I heard you speak about them. Exactly. And so it's like, well, we'll How do you At what point Can you say that someone's you might well i
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think it and for everyone. It's different. Because there's people who don't hang out with that many people. So when they do hang out with people that instantly their friends like, I've got friends who I wouldn't say that often. But they would consider me a really good friend because they just introverts and they don't see that many people and like
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Erica that Yeah,
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and same with me. Like I I think we've spoken about this before. But I used to always call everyone my friend if I'd had a 10 second conversation, but it but even I will do it. Say if I'm traveling for work. I'll normally I just don't like calling people colleagues, my colleague. I'm just checking in now and I'm just waiting for my colleague. I'll say I'm sweating for my mate. Yeah,
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what would you do, mate? I think it's an Ozzy thing. Yeah, colleague sounds like it's American. Yeah.
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He's using the lavatory. We're talking about
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the guys. We're talking Ryan Nicodemus, one of the guys. He was saying. He's going, I'm gonna go to the toilet. And then we start talking about toilet bathroom restroom. I don't know whether I've sold it to him a little bit wrong. But what I said to him. He's like, Oh, yeah, you guys say toilet? Yeah, that's why. That's why I said it. Like, yeah, we do. It's like, Yeah, why don't you sound like bathroom? Oh, restroom. And I said, if I said like, restroom or bathroom, people would suddenly so like a mistake International, where
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it's maybe a slight exaggeration. It's a massive exaggeration. But no, I
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think people even code you international using the term restaurant. I feel
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like those those factors who say restaurant are the same ones who go somewhere for two weeks and get a slight accent
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even better. They'll have a wallet and they'll keep their back in multiple currencies. I gotta pay for something. And they'll go well, sorry. This is a US dollar. Oh, no, that's that's the Euro should have spun the he should have told him that. Everyone. He uses the term Danny
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guys just down to the Danny I told you about that video. Made in America. Yes. I've
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actually seen it. You saw it? Yeah.
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It actually do quite well. When around New York City. Danny
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Danny's really need taken lake.
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Can you tell me where the money is? And I fucking just could not understand it. It's a bargain term. But I use that to people will abuse me in that video in the comments. We don't use Danny here. Fuck off. We are used Danny by Macy's. Danny. I am. I didn't tell you because I haven't seen you since Friday.
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Friday night. Last week.
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Found a wallet on the ground. Here we go. I mean, I were walking had baby body and we just got some dinner. And I look over and I that's is that affecting. Instead of Velcro? What Velcro wallet. Could you see in 1997. I thought
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I thought it and so I was almost about to walk off. And then I the Velcro shown on the straight line. And it sounded like I saw that not that's not Velcro. I walked over picked it up brown leather wallets. So I would have been nervous about picking it up. Because I would have felt this is a stolen wallet. Someone's taken everything taken all the cash out and checked it on the ground. You think that and so my initial thought would be just try and pick it up with something I would probably be really annoying and try and use two sticks like a chopstick and try and pick it up right it's not a crime scene yet it but no. Because listen to this story is definitely not a crime scene.
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So picked it up. Open it up. First thing I did was look for cash. How much five bucks? Good. He was definitely International. There's a few fucking notes from overseas. Right? Guatemala or somewhere in South America. So what do they use pesos? Elena Yeah, sounds right. So we took it upon ourselves we saw it as almost fun opportunity to put on the fucking Sherlock Holmes hat and work out who this guy was it was a guy does it with there any ID yeah so he pulled out his driver's license he was from a place I can't remember it's like down the coast of Victoria and so we looked at is we look at these license there's no
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Nana It was like down past too long and so he's and I'm enjoying or something anyway so on now is just passed along I actually Masterton or seminar we'd name I didn't know I had to google it I said them now not weed it's just a suburb out the back of July okay and and there's actually new states out there selling a
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road or no would be 15 minutes to the stat started talking shit and so what we did was what would you do first wallet say if we can't see your number in there a little through confined these mobile number. I would find this so fucking quickly. I'd be on Facebook I'm sure I've done this before Facebook message people we don't have found a guy it wasn't his full name because he was like john someone Stevens or something like that. And we found I was like Jonathan then we found a john j. o in even perfect. And so we messaged him, you and no response because it's like going to, you know,
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go to the other folder. Yeah, the fall. Yeah.
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Anyway. So we look through, there was not much else some credit cards, MasterCard, like some we'd like receipts from overseas. You must have been in South America. And and it really is Mr. International. He was he was Mr. International. And we bet will convinced of this person being him on Facebook. So but then we found a card in there. And it was like a dress alteration. No, it was like, Fuck,
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that was literally what came to mind. what came to mind was like some sort of like dry cleaning. Nice.
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Nice. It wasn't. It wasn't that it was like some sort of small businesses. Cat. Yeah, it was fresh. Anyway, I am long story short, we saw in his profile photo in this on his Facebook was this girl. So we clicked on to the girl. Her name was Lucy. We messaged her as well. And then
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I'm us looking back through the wallet. So I'm gonna look one more time for number. And we worked out all the guys was elusive for Lucy. The CAD was Lucy. Right. And the card was it was her business. And so I mean, no. So it wasn't. It wasn't dress operation. It was home decorating growth. And so we we called her and we wouldn't have entered it went to the message.
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Okay. And so he's been doing some a fucking annoying voicemails.
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She texts me, texted him, texted this girl. And then she calls back and she'd say in the Facebook message. And it all just came down. We were going to drop it the cop shop the next day. Yeah.
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Fucking. Why did she say the message? So what was her? What did she say? how thankful whether they literally
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were about to, though having dinner and security near our house. And now we're leaving. And he's like, oh, should I have my wallet? And then she grabs their phone and sees the message and realizes that he'd lost his wallet. He didn't realize until I post dinner and they'd already paid
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and so what was their reaction with a super shy lovely
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they came over and we met them at the friends that we had a good chat with them today. Hug. Was there any hugging? Nah, man, that was just that was super, super lovely. Show
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your handshake.
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Well, I really wanted to ask him and Amy excuse me not to not do this haunted cuisine. What's the date of birth with? What's it say? On your license of where you live? And it was it was too obviously there was like, there was so nice about it. It too many dots connected. Lucy card on the phone card. The wallet and then I realized this whole time they haven't been I saw it.
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But I look talking properly in the mic. Hang on. Yeah, he's
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had his mic turned sideways. But I've
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been here we are. That's fucking annoying, though. Isn't it? That's a better that's okay. Now I
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think it's the sign. You just yell.
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So anyway, that was how we got it back to them. But it was
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fun. This like little investigation. Bray found 20 bucks last week. Oh yeah. I know. We've done a whole segment on finally cash. Yeah, but no. So what you decided was she was gonna break it up into smaller amounts and give it out to people
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silly. 2020 bucks. It's not gonna wasn't gonna go well, she's
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gonna buy her friends coffee and stuff. I think as well. She's gonna take what
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is the problem? If you don't do it instantly. You feel like you actually dig into your own time. Yeah.
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What's your Do you have any thoughts on sigh when you you sell? Um, cell thing so just quickly? Yeah,
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take home from the wallet and we spoke about with this couple. Yeah. puts you fucking phone number in your wallet. Yeah, because if someone finds that that will probably look through it and if it goes to the cop shop you might not get it back for a few days. like there might not quite have your name on everything like is probably good. Yeah, right. Like even my camera gear and all that sort of shit. probably helped a lot. I fucking lost my small HD screen back with that have gone on like, what would have happened? I left to 1500 dollar monitor in the park. do you reconcile us I was so tired from it was baby body like a couple of a month into it as fact. And I put a damn walked off Have you checked like did you ever go to the cop shock I went I called the cops I caught a few different stations. Yeah. And I looked on Gumtree I looked on Facebook marketplace and then I climbed insurance
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how easy like I don't quite have never claimed anything on insurance and I always wonder like what it takes and does it affect
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your ability to get insurance in the future no I so it's the car insurance yes fucking avoid that like applied because it it bumps up you know you different your excesses and stuff like that anyway the our insurance which you have it to on your camera get yeah
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all you have to do is I think it's like $100 access but do
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they then but today up at the next year
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they don't they didn't put it at all interesting you said
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it was we never used to I'm sure I've had like shit fuck up but it doesn't cover if something just facts are yeah almost damaged or stolen yeah lost damaged or stolen so this is the kill the kicker you can have your camera just facts are has a problem that against literally because I don't count my damage that is damage I wanted to bring up to you know, I'm a fiend for AWS bargain yeah there's two good deals at the moment there's a bunch of eBay shops in like two days time that are having 20% off and remember you got your cheap lens and shit yeah doing that so that was one of them and the second one is um the
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virgin you know we'd love talking about velocity reward yes they're doing this opt in at the moment where if you
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if you go to their website and your booking flights they'll give you triple triple velocity points which means if you fly to back in LA us and you get like 4000 points they'll give you 9000 points which is pretty sad website
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I was bagging yet just pull it back up yeah it's it's like a message board it's like when the internet just first started those like
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we'd sorts of just people chatting that's basically what it's pretty to hang like, you know, I put something on two hours bargain Yeah.
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And so has it actually work so he gets voted up it's like Reddit or dig or any other side so this has so exclusive 10 so the top ones at the moment exclusive $10 free signup bonus plus 9% cash back on booking.com at the moment on shop back so you can click on that and do that deal second death calls half price specials so they'll put all the specials on there so so juice med codes are pointing that out so you can actually you can actually have a look so sometimes it will say it's like the staff that is doing it yeah
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but in a lot of cases it's just punters who get into it so they might get the catalog early like maybe they've worked out a way of gaining the catalog nearly all right because people listen this at random points yeah they're
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bargains that we're talking about the specific will fucking be gone yeah
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fuck this is one that you would really take advantage of in two days even happened in two days wool words have the Surena tuna three interchange rate a tuna half price at two bucks okay what side 185 grams yeah
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that's not bad I normally before it all with fucking supermarkets is you end up they just if you go enough which we do that constantly fucking having specials on everything but the thing is that I got a dark chocolate today wasn't on special and you saw me I was like fuck it I'm once I I didn't know you and I was
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okay what's what's the best deal that you've got from one of the deal site I probably just a 20% offshoots really good to see if you get 20% off something that you actually need probably the best thing that happened was that lens that you got like that was like it was like $1,000 lens yeah which would have been $900 on the web on eBay and then 20% off that 650 of Seattle amazing it was amazing Do you basically got it for free Krispy Kreme is fucking retargeting me at the moment 20% off double pack we got some feedback Krispy Kreme episode was shit from her we knew that anyway yeah yeah we knew that Riley
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Riley from my office
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okay yeah sure so just just putting an ad and thanks for I mean it was a shift one was we knew it
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make you wait let me just say this is the lie you on those websites is the fucking polar opposite must minimalism. Yeah, exactly. Amen. Minimal split staff staff. Yeah,
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it's all shipping stuff Yeah, it's all factors and Serena tuna?
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Maybe? Maybe not. It's like that's food
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to keep you going. And you hate tonight. Yeah, no, I appreciate you bringing me and I nearly bought a PlayStation. I said that the other day based on this site.
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I think it's very impulsive though these sites make you impulsive because it is like me walks into a store and sees sale signs and it gets excited and fucking we got to get it and you know she's got some great stuff before that we've needed but there's also like it's on sale for reasons sales a fucking bullshit because
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the minimalist have a funny line about sales I say you know what, if you buy it it's 100% off if you don't buy it I just don't you don't buy it it's 100% off which is a fair point but no I do always bargain bargain yeah if you can be controlled about it which you can't No I can't buy that much shift from that but look if I can Swiss cheese wedge 300 grams to 25 the problem is it all feels like it's it pushes towards healthy shit but this is fucking good at you as a as a parent nappies are expensive fucking Amazon Australia spend $50 sigh $15 and selected everyday essentials which includes at the moment the thank you baby nappies I haven't tried them
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with nappies you'd like you get on to the specific brand new like
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what brands are you guys on Huggies probably okay and they just you know they just perfect for my little baby boys bomb. There was I was talking to someone who worked at Thank you. And they're talking about how competitive the
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nappy market was. Specifically they told a story about how he in South Africa someone was decided I think was South Africa. I've told you this story but it's a good show they nappy business started I thought they were doing really well
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because all of their stock was going away turns out the commercial headed a was buying all of the stock off the shelf as a way of being any competitive because no one could buy the product and so the company increase the manufacturing and then all of a sudden no one was buying the product and it was because the competitor was buying it on burning it not only that horrible this competitors also
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did something else dodgy people walked in one day to their manufacturing thing. new owners of the building and it got shut down for the Paper Paper manufacturing the paper plants that produce the nappies turns out it was the competitors just do they bought
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space isn't that crazy the shit that happens people with more if you can find it in the dangerous thing about money is like there is power in those things. Yeah, absolutely. From Cash Money Uh huh. What else
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has been happening what's what's using in Tommy land
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my
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buddy I slept through what's exciting Is he sleeping a full night Uh huh.
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He's a little weapon he's walking bodies fully walking man fact Bray saw that on Instagram Stories is just like
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when did that happen? He's the thing is this is I me say this really has no I like the point it's like a and someone said to her and it goes like this.
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The thought of there was like there is a moment that was the very last time that your parent picked you up like a baby as inhaled. You know how like
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holding What is that? Normally? I don't
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know. But there is you wouldn't know the time but there is there would be a time it's very that your parents stop allowing you to open the door when they're taking a dump.
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haha you don't. I mean, I used to do that. I remember I'd be like mom mom can we play play such a mom we had a sliding George's open a door she's taking a dump I've got like the knife is
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just watching mom taking them bit what Josh I'm taking a sheet Can I not have five? Fucking
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Wow. We just want to know if it can play PlayStation or not. It's just like when Matthew comes over. Can you not open the toilet door when I'm taking a shoot the reality is I'm taking a dump and bodies' just hit just handling around my fate and standing on a way to so if you get the flashy.
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There's some weed sheet. You parent. Yeah,
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they see if I can make it for ages and shit. Well, and what do you remember the last time you saw your parents naked? I mean, you probably wouldn't be able to remember the exact moment. But what age would you have been?
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would have been like 11. Maybe? Yeah, that's a very long time ago. But what time At what point do you stop doing naughty things in front of your kid? Yeah, like if you got a small house who we do. Yeah, probably too. They can start
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having my mom Yeah, yeah, it's a very my friend. Tommy
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Lv on the way again, that is queued
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pools. Becky's for skin and says it's my secret Dickie.
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How old is he? He's like, three.
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So I mean, at that point, then knowing exactly what's going on. They get a fucking know what mommy and daddy are up to. No, no, I don't think so. They know something's gone. Data. I thought like what did I think?
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I just think? I think that I probably until I was 11 years old. I thought that the way you got some pregnant was you pieced inside them. What age I would have been grade five. So I would wait like 10 easier. Yeah,
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fire out. Isn't it crazy?
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But isn't it? I wonder how. Like, that's what's fucking amazing. Like, how do we all learn these things? Yeah. When? When someone like how about are trying to stick Let me try and stick this thing. Like they would have been fucking they ease and if I can try to get in the nostril. You say every day. Like. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I
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think it's, it's instinctual. I think if you put if you didn't experiment, there would be two people that worked out very quickly. If it's true. I was 100% if there was no sec said. I think it'd be worked. And there was no TV and media better. Fascinating. Yeah, I can't do it. Unless it's
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free. So situation when
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you're done that taste
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it requires no because it wouldn't be ethical. Because you basically would say hi, we need to treat these people like fucking crazy. He. How about this? heard this on the minimalists. We're doing this story
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using chimpanzees as examples, right? It was referring to holding and what it does to us now saying you give a chimp
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banana that way that you'll give a chimp
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enough bananas for him and his friends. He'll wait any will share it. You give a chimp
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a horde of bananas that would overfeed everyone in fact and tries to kill them all to protect the horde of bananas. Wow. Point. Bang that with one book. I'm fine. If I have too many books. I can't read. I'm gonna start killing everyone out of it. But interesting, right? Like what? The abundance but having too much sheet, what sort of stuff if you could set if I want to do this experiment. Joshua fields. Milburn talks about it from the minimalists. He says he went through a stage where he was getting through getting rid of one thing every single day for 30 days. And he ended up doing more than that. Where would you start? What would you get rid of nine five things that would get rid of time That's hot. I can't even think of that. Maybe the top two I've just got a bunch of little things in my office that I'm not using our props
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like what are they like Bonnie is and you don't know that shit? Sounds like a Easter Bunny picnic thing I mean what
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do you what do you think I do with my books? Do I just get rid of like no other thing that you like it's it's all status bullshit isn't it because sign them some smart count because I can read but if I see like the look of them right you don't have much stuff compared to some people this is Don't tell me that because she keeps back and saying we don't have much stuff compared to everyone else we don't need to check out stuff I feel like that's a little bit of an excuse to stop from chucking think we could chalk Hey dude, we live in a two bedroom apartments. Yeah,
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it is small. We have a small house like my mom and dad have stuff they're not hoarders it all men there are a lot older than us they do but they end I've got a lot of memories from the kids going out that's a hard thing like got at my your memories, adding new things.
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Remember that but I'm literally just going through like the minimalist talk right now. You guys if you're planning to go tomorrow in Melbourne, you can still go with that the afternoon but otherwise, just listen to the rest as podcasts are trying to put some truth bombs out there.
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I think you get you're gonna have to when you go away
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most t sheets gonna go that's what I want to do. I think like a bit brace like we don't want to have to rebuy fridge, I'm like why like buying freeze the
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problem with the minimalism thing? Why do you have to fucking make it such a thing? Because first it's like all that stuff. But like you sit live by ingesting food, and it should be quality food that you're ingesting. It's a whole different thing. Exercise. It's not necessary. But it's Matt massively needed to live a longer life. Yeah, where is like, I feel like the and you're very much in this world at the moment. You're thinking about it. But I don't even fucking think about that sheet. I leave. And I'm not saying I'm perfect. But I'm also saying however, however, if our society perfect now it's
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why do I need to think about it so much? Because if it's not if my life is an effective moment, or if you say, is it saying that my life will be better? And it's not as great as it could be? With all the shit that I do have? Is that
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what is it? I think what it's saying is that the way the world is set up, we are set up to consume and what is advertisement? What advertisements do they try and sell us that we're not happy until we have this thing that you kids not going to be happy unless they have the lightest Super Soaker or your house isn't going to be complete unless it's got this beautiful couch. And a lot of people use it as pacifiers. So they like, I'm not feeling that complaint. I'm working my ass off for this job that I don't like, I need to have some sort of reward. You know, the same reason that people say, are I this fucking desert because I had a shit day at work. It's the same reason people go online and say, You know what, the money that I just made, I need to buy shit. And the problem is, it's this perpetual issue that sort of feeds itself. Because it's like, you have a shit job that you don't like. So you buy things to try and make yourself feel better. So then you need to go back and continue to work to pay off all the things that you
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think it's an interesting concept. And you see how those guys were just on the project. And it's the project made a joke of what they do. Yeah. Which from a content point of view, like from
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the project side, it's like, Yeah, sure. Talk about like, why are you selling a book, if you go to throw it out anyway, like, I see all those angles, and now too easy and down. But also think about it like this. What is the project the project is a show that's paid for based on advertisement.
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So it takes a real sort of self awareness and reflection to say, hang on, like, we are not a problem. But we feed this beast, we get paid to talk. And then in return, you watch these ads about things that you need to buy, like, think about how many times someone is sold to every single episode of the project. Yeah. And so constantly,
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of course, mainstream media is not going to be too fat and reflective of it, because it's the reflection that they look back is one that's probably not that appealing. I think the majority of people don't see and people like the people in the project and that these danger in this stuff, right? They're not pointing out the danger because I feel like myself, it's like, if I can have a problem, and maybe the people who do have a problem, feel and grab and gravitate towards it, or people who see it in one to, you know, like, I leave you could look at it for follow some What is it rhetoric or follow some sort of like mythology that leads to some kind of a life. It's super interesting. I think, you know, where I think about this stuff is my kid. Yeah. And as much as I like, you know, me, what do I buy? I don't buy much. Yeah, you're very good. And I hope that I can. And there's a lot of people who aren't like that. Okay, so
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maybe I'm just totally. And the other thing too is Derek servers who founded CD Baby, we filmed him the other day in Oakland. And he was talking about how crazy is this, he'll go out to the park with his kid Eric. And this would be cool for you to try. It's fucking hard with your work schedule. But he will spend five hours at a park with he's trying to teach his kid to have a great attention span. So he won't bring us phone or anything like that. He's connected the whole time with this kid. And he's like, you know what, we're just going to play at the playground for five fucking hours. And he he sees people come and go, like, people coming for the 15 minute birth name, leave and they just slowly and it's like, he gets into after a while. He said, he gets into the mind of a kid and I have five cool
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I really like that. I think I struggle a lot. But I think I get recognized to get into North
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America thing if you actually like was I think all of this leads to consciousness. If you're conscious and said, it's not just leaving your phone, but it's like we say how present I convey it spend what happens if we have five hours body will fucking crack the shits probably in black. I want to go home after three. Surely it's a long fucking time. He didn't need it do for sheets in one. three meals. He'd have two naps
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my thought about Bodie. Oh, yeah. I think Yeah, um, I see. I see the danger. I see how hard everything's coming at those kids. In fact, in terms of the marketing and toys I'm had to make, in fact, in the in app purchase. Yeah. And I think it comes down to that attention span so much to pull their attention. So as soon as they lose it, what's next? What's next?
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Well, I think that the thing that Derek Simmons talks about is going down that path, half that's less traveled.
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And the I'm really interested in I've been thinking about that lightly, which is the things that we think that we should do what the things that people are telling us to do, and normally leading to mediocrity. It's actually like
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to stand out or to do something exceptional. Sometimes you have to do the things that no one else is doing. Hmm.
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I'll leave you on that. Yeah. Yeah.
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I think with the minimalism thing, I think there is a lot people can take from it. Just it just checked a life are they that person and maybe I've done this ask the
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question and maybe I'm not just being conscious and saying, am I buying this because I'm just like, it's an impulse
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or am I buying because Josh said on my nose bargain. How many
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times did you buy guy tuna, tuna plural. Tuna, tuna tuna? You gotta go. You gotta call ya.
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