Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] It's a very low barrier to get into the grown squad was committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. I had
George Martin: [00:00:10] guys put
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] it in the calendar.
George Martin: [00:00:13] Just like
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:13] to check the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee story.
The daily talks
George Martin: [00:00:21] show episode 973, Georgie boy, I forgot how I was
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:25] doing that bit until just then when you sat down, I was about to that's what I was flagging to. What number is it? Uh, really? You were actually going to do it. I was going to do it. Oh, sorry. I mean, you have filling in for Josh Janssen today.
Yeah. You're sitting in your seat. Yep. How's it feel? Feels
George Martin: [00:00:38] good. Um, I mean, big shoes to fill.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:42] Wow. Not as big as my mate when you know, my foot size is big at one of our best YouTube videos or most viewed YouTube videos is, um, whose forty's
George Martin: [00:00:52] bigger. Yeah. But Josh had a wider
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:53] girth from memory while he's he's foot is more flat.
I mean, saying it's wider. It's just like saying, yeah, he's a bigger guy versus, you know, muscly guy. What size shoe are you? 17. No, no, no, no. I'm I'm uh, 13 or 12 and a half or something. What size are you, George? Well, this
George Martin: [00:01:15] is thing, I think I'm a nine and a half, but I'm actually at 10. Okay. I always buy my shoes too small.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:22] Why
George Martin: [00:01:25] is that? I like the look of like big shoes. Mainly for when I play soccer, I'll buy my shoes. Like I buy like a size nine. Yeah. My toenails be done.
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:34] Why would you buy bigger shoes if they aren't required? Like, you don't want to buy smaller shoes by the size that they are, because then you've got the right size fucking shoe, George.
Yeah,
George Martin: [00:01:45] I know. I like these a 10. I think my shoes are 10. Okay. But then I've just always liked the look of people that have small
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:53] shoes. Well, shoes do look better. When they're in smaller sizes. So when you go to a shop mannequins, the clothes are smaller, um, than most than probably the average shoes. Maybe they're the average, maybe the average person.
W when I say average, I just mean the sum total of people in the shoe size that fits majority is a smaller shoe. And so for me, I can't fucking find shoes. Just pay me out this week. She's like, Might get new shoes because I've got these, um, these added S Rhonda, is that an awesome comfy, but they're a bit fucked underneath.
Yeah. Right. And so when I walk, I think she can see, you know, um, my foot come up and see the soul of them. Sure. It's wearing it. Sure. It might get a bit of wet. Witness when it's raining, but I don't wear them when it's raining, but the reason I haven't bought one, I went shopping for shoes on December in Jan, trying to find the right one.
Couldn't find it not the right size. Yeah. Anyway, it's fat Friday today. Um, JJ is feeling a bit under the weather, so he's just taken a nice long weekend. It is a long way. It is a long weekend. Yeah. We go into the long weekend. Um, you've been talking about when's that public holiday. Well, I got an
George Martin: [00:03:03] email notification the other day saying Jess Lucas has canceled Anzac day public
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:07] holiday.
Oh yeah. So I mean, Jess is very organized, so she's putting in when we're all having annual leave, just so we're not planning and bookie and shit. Yeah, man. It hasn't occurred to me like. Uh, public holidays haven't really occurred to like come into my mind for the last 15 years based on having my own business.
I just haven't thought about it. I ended up taking them or I do a little bit of work, but it's not the same mindset as when you're working for a big media company like you.
George Martin: [00:03:35] And last year, or the last couple of years, when I was working at an ad agency, I was only doing like three days a week. But one of those days was a Monday.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:43] Oh, might you were praying for the day that you had to work falling on an annual leave day. So you'd end up having to do two days of work or when you went to two days yet falling on a fucking, when I went to two days over,
George Martin: [00:03:55] over Christmas, I took two weeks off and I took two days of
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:00] you bringing down big business, George, but not ours.
You lifting up our big media company. Thank you. I appreciate that. So Friday, Um, what are we doing, George?
George Martin: [00:04:09] Well, seeing as I am filling in for Josh, we thought we could buy each other, something that's filled. Yeah. Uh, so I mean,
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:18] what if you got, because this place, this is like, what's it called? Bond bond bond bond on it's one of those little Asian grocers it's like, so hang on.
I've got the receipt in my pocket. It's um, They, they they're like in the CBD, you can't find it lost the receipt. Oh no. Anyway, bond bond or something. It's they do like, uh, Asian bakery treats
George Martin: [00:04:41] that are all wrapped individually in plastic.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:43] Uh, yeah. And so, yeah, they're not afraid of some land field. Anyway, this is your field thing.
I don't know what you're holding. Yeah. So I actually don't know. It looks like a burrito, dude. I thought it was going to
George Martin: [00:04:58] be dense. Like I thought it was like a really thick sausage roll. Yeah. But it's actually quite
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:03] light and yours looks like children's food. It looks like a Twinkie, like a, uh, a little hot dog bun, but the hot dog, like the, the sausage is stuffed inside.
So there's no like slit at the top, like a sausage sizzle. Anyway, you go, Oh yeah, this is a pillow. So what you've got me. I can already see, um, spring onion, like cut. It's smells as much as it might God. Oh, it's got seaweed on it, man. I think he thought it was
George Martin: [00:05:34] sweet,
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:34] but is it I'll go first.
Oh
George Martin: [00:05:41] really?
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:44] Oh, what the
George Martin: [00:05:47] F Oh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:51] it's seaweed. It's spring onion. It's fishy. It's a massive, it's so nasty. It's like the size of your shoe. I'm annoyed. I've lost that receipt it's somewhere, but it's got the, it's got what? It's got. What we ordered on it. How much did you pay?
George Martin: [00:06:08] But these things,
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:09] seven bucks, 10
George Martin: [00:06:11] all up.
It's not too bad. All this one. So this is like your little hot dog, like a mini hot dog and a bit of bread. Yeah. I pulled it out. It's like wet.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:21] Wait, what do you mean from oil? Can I have a
George Martin: [00:06:24] bot?
Oh my God.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:31] George is very vocal about food that he doesn't like. I
George Martin: [00:06:35] vomit very easily.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:36] Yeah. When was the last time you vomited?
George Martin: [00:06:39] Um, the last time I vomited, it's gotta be recent. Like shots are a big one for me from having shots, but there's so many stories. I mean, vomiting as a kid, right. I vomited when I scraped Weet-Bix into my cat's bowl
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:55] by you just, just the look of
George Martin: [00:06:58] it.
Just like, I just like, it just scraping it in just like the sound of it, like landing in the bowl.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:05] You'll be one of those dads that changing nappies and just like, Oh yeah. I was surprised that I didn't have more of a. Hm, like, uh, you know, sick, sick estate, changing nappies because some of them are absolutely putrid.
Uh,
George Martin: [00:07:21] I can imagine. Um, but one time I vomited, um, I just came home from school and mum's like, get your lunch box out. And I opened it up. And all that was in, there was, uh, a container of Ribena juice and opened hadn't even opened it. And I just looked at it and spewed.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:42] Yuck. Can you pass me your, you want to try this because you didn't, you didn't, it didn't make you vomit. No,
George Martin: [00:07:47] actually, I mean, it's not great. It's not good. It's like a little footy Frank in. A piece of oily
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:53] bread. Yeah. And when you say oily, it's actually, it's also very sugary, I think on the other end, apparently it smells like a croissant, like one of those cheaper croissants.
Yeah. Apparently
George Martin: [00:08:03] subway bread is actually classified as cake because it's so sugary, but that is who actually eats this stuff. Hmm. Can I try yours?
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:17] I want to say I've had, this is called the other end. So it's the size of a burrito. It's
George Martin: [00:08:22] like the lightest brand. It's like cakey bread.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:27] Here we go.
George Martin: [00:08:28] Here we go.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:39] Oh my God. Oh my God.
It's bad. Isn't it? The worst is the Seaway taste. Do you want to just have some of that? Just break up some of the bread to eat from the seriously. God,
George Martin: [00:09:01] my eyes are watering.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:03] You're
George Martin: [00:09:04] an animal for getting that. Hmm. All right.
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:08] All right. Today, we're going to have a bit of fun. What are we doing Georgie? Well,
George Martin: [00:09:13] I just thought before the shadow guy through some old episodes.
Yeah. Quite didn't you have to guess who said
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:19] it. Yeah. But we're not gonna hear the audio we're going to read out. So it's, it's a bit harder. So, um, all right.
George Martin: [00:09:28] I was meditating on the words. Don't fight. Don't fight. Don't
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:31] fight. Josh doesn't meditate. And so, so it makes sense that Josh said that based on. He doesn't know what meditating is.
Well, it is it's his mantra is fat. Yeah. That's Josh Janssen. Yeah. It was Josh Manson.
George Martin: [00:09:49] He was talking about, he was getting, he was getting a massage. Yeah. And, and he felt like he was being rolled out like
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:56] dough yesterday. And that was in when he was in Dallas and he was with Bree, um, and getting rolled out, rolled out like that, the doughy bread that we just ate oily dough.
And he's funny. All right. Another one
George Martin: [00:10:13] I say he and day. Oh, what a feeling he
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:26] fucked up, but that's the toys.
Do
George Martin: [00:10:34] you and Josh? Both iron here on days.
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:36] Yeah, we do. And then just got, he's got an . He's got the , which is the. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Cat. He talks about it a lot. It's a great car. Although he did mention this week that he, um, he did, uh, buy a, uh, it was an Avis rental car. Oh yeah. But the thing is they're great cars.
They, they, um, they're cheap. In the scheme of cars, um, and they're very reliable check to service. Did you hear about it?
George Martin: [00:11:10] Did you hear about the generous thing that Josh did the other day?
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:13] Um, no. You won't believe this. Okay. What did, what happened? He drove me home. He drove you home from here. Okay. That's generous because we know that Josh Janssen's rule is, um, uh, no backtracking. Yes. Like. It's and he doesn't live near you anymore?
No opposite direction. Did he ever drive you home while you lived right near him? No, because you would've had to backtrack one kilometer. Yeah, exactly. It's a bit
George Martin: [00:11:41] annoying, but wait, so we used to walk over a bit together. I used to go past his house, but then so now he's moved to Windsor and I'm in Fitzroy, North opposite.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:49] I reckon there's a higher chance. Of Josh Janssen walking someone back to their house and backtracking back to his, then when you asked the drive. Yeah, because then he gets more steps in and what I'm realizing that's selfish, but it's also generous. Now. That's really generous. I mean, the thing is we talked about generosity this week as well.
And, um, uh, he, generosity is. Each to their own well it's, uh, I think we all have a version of what we're willing to be generous to. And, um, and he's very particular,
George Martin: [00:12:28] well, I think in his words it was I'm generous, but on my own, I'm generous, but. On my own terms. Yeah. That was it. I'm Jennifer
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:37] on my own terms, which is selfish,
George Martin: [00:12:43] but yeah, that was very generous.
Jess actually said later the next drive Jor time. So Jessica's in the car too, but we got, uh, it took ages. The traffic was so bad. And so yeah, I probably could have walked home faster, faster.
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:55] Yeah. I mean, I give you lift times. Um, so yeah, I didn't give you a lift time sometimes just, no, I don't really feel like it.
But yeah, just no, no. It's nice thing to do. And so like, um, maybe he's always offering my, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, but the thing about doing things for other people is it's, you're usually putting the other person first before, like it's being put out is one thing like where literally I have an appointment and I can't miss it.
If I drop you home, I'll miss it. Yeah. That's different. But I was, I mean, I were talking last night that it was my brother's birthday. And I know he doesn't want me to put myself out for him, but I said to him, I want to come over for dinner, which is like, you know, mum and dad's place is like 45 minutes from the office.
I'm probably 50 minutes in traffic and then another 50 minutes to home. But I was like, that's what I want to do. Like, I see that as I almost lean into the pain. Of how it puts you out. Right? So you want it to go
George Martin: [00:13:57] over to his house for dinner, for his
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:59] birthday, because it's like, I see that as the effort that friends can put in.
And so it's not all the time that you feel like that, but I feel like when did he,
George Martin: [00:14:08] was he having a dinner or did you just go
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:10] doing it? He didn't want it. He didn't want, but he's, he's the type that wouldn't want me to put myself out. Yeah. Right. And a lot of people are like that. They don't want someone else putting themselves out for, for them, but that's the gesture.
And that's the generosity. Yeah. That I can't even client because I didn't go. But like w what I'm speaking to is the feeling that people have, and I've had it. I don't put yourself out. No, you don't have to go out of your way. Actually I'd probably feel like that as much. I don't mind, but a lot of people really, I know Josh struggles with that.
I reckon he would be more likely to say no, no, no, because he's thinking so much about the other person and empathizing for how they might feel. Yeah.
George Martin: [00:14:51] I think I'm similar. Yeah. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:53] It's annoying to put people out, but it's interesting. The scale at which people feel. Other people's pain in the pudding being put out.
Yeah. But no, I like dropping your home. Thank you. Because I liked the compliments when you're like, man, I don't even have to direct this guy. He knows bloody nose straights. Like
George Martin: [00:15:12] I've grown up in a family of. Terrible direction direction
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:15] is you grew up in a family. Yeah. Male, male ways or sideways. And, and my, my dad is a GPS system.
Take it. You're right. You're scrambling through pages to find the fucking directions and using your finger in my head. BBB. PPP.
George Martin: [00:15:32] Yeah. So you can just go somewhere and you just know, do you think, like, are you good with North and South and ACE and stuff?
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:39] Oh, only if I, um, Like, could you, if it serves so like, uh, let's, let's say if you're in, um, New York bad case, cause I got lost there and Josh would pull me up for sending us the wrong direction, but give me a couple of days I've downloaded it.
So, you know, uptown, downtown or in Los Angeles is like where's Santa Monica Boulevard. Where's third street. And so you start then sort of, um, anchoring. So where's North side, North of the river. South of the river East. And then I think like East land. So it's out that way East and West. And so you start then attaching it to areas, but no, like my dad could like turn and be like, that's fucking South East.
He liked, you know, really has a, he's a w w a compass. Yes. And so impressive. So what I do is I implant, I imprint my mind with like an aerial shot. Of where I'm at. And so I can, I have like a good sense. On right now. I know all directions, really punt road. So I say that I can't do that's going up. That's going down to Brighton.
That's going back to cue. That's going towards city Fitzroy gardens. Yeah. I'm actually very impressed with that. But you have to think about what think
George Martin: [00:16:58] about as soon as I go into a house and I'm like, turn one corner. I'm done. I don't know where anything is. Like, I'm not, I'm always going like, Oh yeah, it just stopped Fitzroy.
But. Just pointing to wherever,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:09] like, Oh, I love it. It's it's almost like a, it's probably my ego, but when someone, you know, in a house says, Oh yeah, it's just like it references. Like you just seem to Fitzroy and you got the
George Martin: [00:17:21] wrong way you pointing the other way. Like from here, I actually
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:24] don't know if they go up there.
Yeah. Think about the, where we're in the studio right now. The side that you're sitting on is parallel to punt road puddle straight. Yeah. So once you, once you know that. So the line of where does Hoddle street go there in my house? He got up that way. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's got all right. There you go. I love that.
All right. Next one. All right.
George Martin: [00:17:45] Uh, Oh, by the way, that last quote was from the first ever fat Fridays. Really? Yeah. Um, do you remember what you, what you had
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:55] was that the hand-eye no,
George Martin: [00:17:59] 219. Yeah. Uh, donut King.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:03] Oh, yeah, we, we would, yeah, I think we'd been on a shoot, Josh and I. Yeah. And then we were out in Rowville right near his parents joint and we went and got hot donuts.
Like just, you know, they've just come off the rack. I just come off the conveyor belt and dropped into the snow, dropped into the sugar. And just rolled around and given straight to you a six pack of
George Martin: [00:18:27] cinnamon donuts from donut King is the best
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:30] w the South Melbourne market in, in South Melbourne, which is after that way that, um, as a kid, I went there and I just got these hot donuts, hot donuts, dude.
Just hot, just anyway.
George Martin: [00:18:45] Alright. Uh, okay. I've got some bad news for you. We lost the entire show.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:54] Um, that, so that's that we lost. It's the only show we've ever lost outside of a few shows where one was out of focus. One was blown out. One was shot here in 11,000 ISO. And so Josh would refuse to use it. Yeah, I wanted to, but then I wanted to use the out-of-focus focus one too, but I'm glad we didn't.
That's why we got a good partnership. Um,
George Martin: [00:19:21] So you say you've done three episodes that we haven't seen the light of day.
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:25] Yeah. But this one specifically actually lost it. We lost the audio file and that was, um, the walkie talkie show where Josh had his walkie talkies and went back to his apartment, which was near our old studio.
And. We were, he was calling back to us through the walkie-talkie. Oh, he was, he had a walkie talkie and we're speaking to somebody in the city. Yeah. From a high rise building, Russ keys and Josh was on the phone to us and it was coming into the road caster at the time, what we used. And then, um, so Josh has said it, I think
George Martin: [00:20:00] this is actually you on the phone to
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:01] Baker.
Oh no, we've lost the whole show. So yeah. So the reason I thought. Uh, cause Josh lost. He probably both said it to be honest, Josh walked in excited, happy that we've just nailed this and stepped on a cord, which pulled out the power to the road castor and corrupted the file. It doesn't save down automatically.
Yeah. Oh, it's saving, it's writing to the SD card, but then when it's pulled out with the power. There's some kind of, this was early days of the road cast there too. So there might be some kind of firmware update that's that will capture it and stop it from being corrupted. So the fire, we could see it, right.
Wasn't wasn't working though. Uh, let's say
George Martin: [00:20:48] we weren't going to get it. And he said it was the best episode
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:50] ever. Well, it was amazing because we think about this, the CBDs, like. Three four Ks away, like maybe three Ks away from Joshua's old apartment and line of sight. So there's like the big Skyrise and then Russ Ks is up in the Telstra building with his walkie talkie, and Josh has been able to connect through on the channel and you can fully hear each other.
And it's weird. It was cool. It was cool. Oh, that I'm looking at, I keep thinking I've got
George Martin: [00:21:21] like say in my teeth at night.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:23] Dude. You're lucky. I didn't even have that. I like is, uh, uh, go back to it. The worst thing about that one you got, I'm sorry that I got the little one sausage, one is the texture of the sausage, how it bursts.
It's so tight.
George Martin: [00:21:44] Like what's in those things. Lips and assholes.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:48] Yeah, yeah. Of a pig. Yeah. Who the horse? Yeah. Um, all right.
George Martin: [00:21:54] This is an easy one. Uh, it doesn't matter how much water I drink at the moment because of the amount of coffee I'm having. I can't get clear piss impossible,
Josh, yet it could be from any episode that was actually from episode four 84. So it's been happening for a while. Um, how about this for an idea? If we, um, could we put up the, uh, the overexposed episode, sell it as a, as an
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:24] NFT NAB? Oh, I mean, it'd be interesting. I think you have a listen to it before you start throwing out these crazy ideas.
We actually went a bit negative. I think I really, it was like on our LA trip. So it's in Santa Monica. And we're on the sand Santa Monica, Venice beach, California. And, um, we've set up the camera on the sand for how far into the trip is this the last day? Oh yeah, on the way to the airport. Oh God. We went to Venice first is do a few things.
And then we did this episode and we're sitting on one of those, um, I conic beach boxes, like Baywatch vibe. Like we're sitting on, on, on the side of one of those. So it's a great wide shot of that. I think we've put some
George Martin: [00:23:14] shots in like the montages and
Tommy Jackett: [00:23:16] stuff. Definitely. Yeah. But the episode itself was, um, I don't know.
Cause we were reflecting. It could be interesting to listen back to. Yeah. Would you, would you try and find it and if, uh, and we'll put it, put it up somewhere and if people want it, if you're a true Gronk and you want to listen to it. Email hi@thedailytalkshow.com and George will, um, maybe send you a private link to it's a good idea.
Um, I wonder if it's a wonder if we actually brought it all together though. I wonder if you'll be able to find it either way email, if you want that and you want to listen to it. Um, but yeah, I think, I think after miss the 90 sevens on it, it'd be in
George Martin: [00:23:59] the, so it'd be early five hundreds.
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:02] It would be speakers.
Yeah. It would be at five 15 or something. Well, it'd be around them, but we never listed, so we wouldn't know what site it was, but, um, but yeah, we, uh, and then Josh and I had a classic blow up after that. You know? Why, why, why,
George Martin: [00:24:17] why? And then, so did you do the. Then you went to the airport and recorded in and out in episode.
Was that straight after?
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:24] Straight after? Really? Yeah.
George Martin: [00:24:26] Do you guys do a good job at like pretending everything's fine because it seemed
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:31] okay. Yeah. I mean, that's, I mean, that was the first two weeks of the year for us. Yeah. Um, not that everything wasn't fine. I mean, this fucking perspective in any moment, it's like, well, how severe is it?
How bad is the situation really? And so. We're just professionals, George, like being on radio that I remember there was times feeling like I was having that sort of having a little fucking blow up with my cohost, um, which just happens in the relationship because you're working so closely and there's, you know, wanting to do something one way.
I want to do it in another way or ideas clashing, or just being tired. Like traveling's fucked. You think about fighting it. You would have fought with Hannah while you're traveling, or at least had like a heightened response to something that wasn't really necessary. Like it's based on you're feeling tired.
You're probably hungry. It's like heap to think. And so, yeah. My point about the writer stuff is you have to turn it on. No one really wants to hear the so true sad state, although like LA like this week and last week, some of the episodes that got a bit dark, but then it's, it's interesting because they ended up resonating with people.
And so how do you know what to do? How do you know when to share the negativity? Because sometimes that can be a real saving grace for somebody because it actually helps them a lot. Yeah. Like someone's relating. Cause they're like I'm in a dark space right now.
George Martin: [00:26:02] What are the takeaways from the Billie Eilish Docker that Josh has been talking about?
Like she's like one of the biggest pop stars in the world. Yeah. Probably some of the most unique sounds, you know, of our time. I reckon I love her. She's great. Yeah. And all that, like most of our songs are quite depressing and sad. They resonate with all these 18 year old kids. And then you've got like the labels trying to get them to write a pop song.
You know, we need a pop song and it's like, but these kids are like, she's just writing what she's feeling, which is happens to be. Pretty depressing. Um, but it's, everyone's resonating with it.
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:43] I think what resonates everyone's felt a version of sadness. Yeah. Not everyone has had the grieve in the same way, but there's been, you can grieve about losing a mate that you're just not friends with anymore.
Yeah. But then you can grieve when you've lost a mate who's passed away. And so we're all experiencing. Similar, like we're all experiencing versions of pain, sadness, happiness, excitement, anxiety. And so that's relating, like you can think about getting, like, I remember music can really shift your state and there's something about leaning into the pain that can be satisfying in this weird way, by the way, it isn't it like having a breakup, thinking about breakup songs, Adele.
Yeah. Or like, um, not even uplifting ones, there's some that just like, yeah. If
George Martin: [00:27:36] you're sad, you want to listen to sad music.
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:39] But when, what I was going to say, when, what you should be doing is trying to seek out positivity, but then maybe not, maybe that is all a part of the process, like to feel the sadness when you've lost.
Somebody is a total is a big part. Of of grieving. Like you have to feel it and be like, Oh my God. And if it doesn't and if you don't do it now may lighter because it's so natural to feel that
George Martin: [00:28:08] way. Um, Josh is coming back on Tuesday.
um, but no, you guys do a great job, uh, especially you told me, I reckon you do an awesome job. It just like supporting. Josh and Josh supporting you when, when things, when you guys are arguing or you have different opinions, um, yeah. You kind of talk about it early and listen, and it all works out and it's, uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:38] it's nice to be around.
Thanks, man. There's no other way to do it with Josh to talk about. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think I, I get around cause it's probably not my go-to. Like getting, getting something talked about and out of the way and like sorted straightaway or like wanting to get through it. Yes. Straightaway. So my initial response would probably be the, let it breathe or I could do a good job of like maybe not putting the energy into it or the.
Sort of leaning into the emotion of something. Yeah. But then that doesn't serve sometimes. So it's like, that's why it's the glucometer. Cause Josh sometimes actually realizes that we need a fucking hit the pause and not delve too much into it. Yeah. And, and wallow in that negativity or that feeling. And then other times we, you know, we do it and do it together, Saudis.
Um, yeah. Yeah. That's like
George Martin: [00:29:34] give and take. Yeah. With like, People say that Hannah and I don't fight that much. We don't really fight that much, but when, if we do have a little argument or disagreement, we are very good at just like talking about it straightaway, not summit, not those like as couples that are like real, um, stubborn.
And they just don't like, not today. Like they go for like two days.
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:58] I could not do that now actually in saying that. I think I see like Amy and I, I want to talk about something straightaway. Yeah. But then sh and she, so that's my, maybe when it's like with someone close, I want to talk about it straight away.
But then Amy's version of like needing the term. I've got to process something like, I don't want the pro, I want to get to it now. And so the processing is really positive in some respects, because it allows you to someone like Amy, just sorta thoughts a bit. That's certainly understand how she feels because she's actually sometimes
George Martin: [00:30:32] forcing it early is the wrong
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:35] thing to do.
Exactly. And so, yeah, it's a balance. Yeah. I think Josh and I have a good balance of that. Yeah.
George Martin: [00:30:43] Um, anyway, I meant to be positive, so
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:45] yeah. You mean to wrap up the show, try wrapping it up. Josh. All right.
George Martin: [00:30:48] Well, happy Friday, everyone. Uh, send us your.
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:52] What did we ask for again? So we've asked if you want to hear the episode that never made it, because it was not even blown out.
I thought it was a great looking shot and you could grade it, but you're an editor. So you might be, you might be like, absolutely not. I'm not releasing this trash, but it's like bright blue sky. It's a bright blue sky. It's like, yeah. Anyway, if you want that height, the daily talk, show.com uh, address, uh, address it is, um, uh, W
George Martin: [00:31:21] w what's the line out episode, private
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:24] link.
That's a bit just maybe put GB in the, um, in the subject. G B for Georgie boy. Yup. And then just say, send it, send it, send it happy Friday. Grimy Friday. Love you guys. Thanks. Bye. See you, um, see you on Monday guys, buddy.