Tommy Jackett: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the drone squad.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:07] We're committed to do the daily talk show for 10 years. I had guys put it in the
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:11] calendar.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:13] Just like to check the temperature in the room. I told you my squeegee
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:16] story.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:19] It's the daily talk show episode 969
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:23] B Monday.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:24] What's happening. Just, uh, getting, uh, getting comfy, uh, ready for a great
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:29] week. Yeah. Is that the mantra you bringing this way? Going to
Josh Janssen: [00:00:33] be a great week right now? I feel it. Do you feel the energy? Is that being a good week? Um, we can't both have good weeks. I guess.
Tommy Jackett: [00:00:42] I, you know, one of us got to try it in, uh, Yeah. Now last week it was a big week. So this week feels like it'd be in terms of, uh, needing to be active and out and about. So, um, last Monday we had a, uh, shoot all day. And so I'm in that vibe of like, wow, I don't think I could do that today. Sure. Looking back on all that hard work, which w which we're not.
So that brings a bit of like comfort in that. Um, an office day is
Josh Janssen: [00:01:18] that's what you want from a production company and office days a good
Tommy Jackett: [00:01:21] day? Um, no, no. I mean, I had body was, um, uh, this morning, uh, on the way to school, but on the way to daycare, but he's just started he's real. He's I think he's. I think your, uh, rubbing off on him. Great. He's always thinking about the future.
I really, um, daddy, what's what's happening tomorrow. Like what's tomorrow, like doesn't care about today. It's all about what's going on tomorrow. I'm like interesting and stay present. No, I think he's just worked out how that he can start understanding. And the next day what's the next day looking like trying to
Josh Janssen: [00:01:58] schedule these he's awake.
Isn't that a fair thing, especially when you've got someone like. Like you're controlling his shed. You're all you got some
Tommy Jackett: [00:02:06] clarity. I mentioned being in a child's body as an adult, like as where you are now, the lack of control. Like I even remember feeling any them as a kid, um, and having school as the routine and just, I think you either realize that you've got the S the routine, um, and you just are going with the flow or you're a kid that ends up just like.
Rebel, like pushing back on what needs to be done in all those ways. So, cause it's like not decided upon you. That's why when I left school year 11 literally felt like I had a backpack of rocks on and I just ditched the backpack.
Josh Janssen: [00:02:42] Yeah. I mean, I was always like the annoying kid that was, uh, you know, we were an early family.
There was, but no very annoying when it came to. Going to school and getting my shoes on and doing all that sort of thing. Like getting up in the morning. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Couldn't like, what time would you have to get up in the morning? Do you remember? I mean, I
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:03] was lucky I lived across the road, like literally 20
Josh Janssen: [00:03:06] minutes was my latest.
Do you remember like the latest time you could get up?
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:10] Oh, eight 20, probably. So
Josh Janssen: [00:03:13] seven 50, like seven 50. If I wasn't up by seven 50, we were going to be like,
yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:18] I mean, I was thinking to, um, Mike Cannon Brookes who's
Josh Janssen: [00:03:22] uh, that's the founder of
Tommy Jackett: [00:03:25] Atlanta. Yeah. One of the co-founders of a lesson, her lesson do, who knows?
That's that's the funny thing about them. They're a software company, but they're not like, uh, If they're one of the biggest software companies in the world, I was listening to them on, um, uh, how, how I built this guy, Roz, Roz, it's fucking great two Aussie dudes that have founded this juggernaut of a business.
Um, but th the kind of the joke is that not, not everyone knew what they do. It's like this kind of unusual thing where. Clearly, they own a bunch of software and they build Slack and Slack. Um, but they they're huge. Right? Yeah. Anyway, one of them, Mike went to boarding school as a key that
Josh Janssen: [00:04:12] HipChat, I think it was, I think it's HipChat.
Like they had like a chat. So like an IAM sort of thing. It's like
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:18] all these applications I've never G wrote, never heard of them.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:23] Yeah. A lot of them is like related to like, um, Developing software. Yeah. So it's like, how do you keep track of all the changes you've got to make? Or like internal
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:33] systems we obscure.
That's why it does it. It's not like heap, like a Facebook or a, but all
Josh Janssen: [00:04:37] companies need software.
Tommy Jackett: [00:04:39] Yeah. So what'd you learn off him? Uh, nobody went to boarding school as like a young young kid in England, like, so he's over there and he flew home four times a year. Um, it talks about how he got his first laptop.
By accumulating points, flying home. To like a rich
Josh Janssen: [00:05:02] kid. Well, I don't know if you, if you are accumulating frequent flyer points as a child. Yeah. You're doing okay. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:10] Yeah. It definitely wasn't sold in his, like, he was a poor kid, but I mean, going to boarding school costs a bunch of cash anyway. Yeah. But the one way looking at is boarding school.
Like you've got an expensive. Having a child at home. Anyway, like if I was to, if we were to breakdown, what on a spreadsheet, what bodies' expenses were, and then you go, or a fee for a boarding school, which is every day food, a calm, yeah. All of that. It ends
Josh Janssen: [00:05:35] up where you are. What are describing here is the reason why people do all inclusive canker and tricks.
Yeah, definitely not. It's like, look, you can take the guesswork out, drink as much as you want. Peace in the pool and then go home a few times
Tommy Jackett: [00:05:49] a year. But, but I mean, boarding school is a lot more foreign nowadays than it once was my, my auntie went to boarding school.
Josh Janssen: [00:05:57] And so the idea is for the entirety of your schooling, you were somewhere else and you're living in that whole environment.
Tommy Jackett: [00:06:06] Yeah. I mean, that's a learning curve for a kid. W w w w how would have you, I think I was threatened you're off to boarding school as a kid, you know, just too much for me, parent
Josh Janssen: [00:06:19] brothers, where I was never threatened with that. I dunno why. Nah, I just like, um, I probably would have ever taken the naughty, but the naughty boys home was the big one.
Mum would find the shitters house in, um, a neighborhood Doveton, which was nearby like next door to us. And she would drive around Doveton and she'd find the shittest house. And she would say that is the naughty boys home. Really? If you. Kate being a little shit you're going there. Okay. Yeah. But, um, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, uh, you, it would really shape like, uh, the kid, I guess it takes away like the family.
Dynamic or definitely changed. Like, I don't know. How do you think that kids that go to boarding school would have a warm relationship with their family? Oh, I'm sorry. Like I
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:10] know, um, Rupert Ballenger, who we've had on this show, um, he lived in remote Queensland and the schooling that is required, or the schooling that you may want for your child.
Isn't in remote Queensland, it's in Brisbane. And so
Josh Janssen: [00:07:28] that's very different than living in the city where you've got many options that you can consider.
Tommy Jackett: [00:07:32] Yeah. I mean, it's an interesting one. It's a decision that definitely shapes a person in one way or another. I mean, it's like, um, any situation shapes the parent.
So I think like bodies' saying on the way to school today on the way to daycare, like, Oh, can we go and do this? And I was just thinking, imagine if there was a. Like there's something in the friction of not being able to do everything that you want in life that, that gives you a perspective on your situation and then where you want to get to.
That's great.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:05] I think. Like, if, if everything's easier, it ends up backfiring.
Tommy Jackett: [00:08:09] I think, I think we ended up wanting. So, you know, think about the times that the amount of people out there would be thinking about if I won Tatts, lotto, what I could do, you know, is this like drop out the equation of needing to do something that you don't necessarily want to do.
It there's a lot of people doing shit that they do not want to do. Um, but the hard bit is finding perspective, looking at that thing. And thinking that's actually serving progression. Yeah. Module, not everyone progresses though. They get stuck in the thing that they don't want to do. Well,
Josh Janssen: [00:08:45] some people can't live as an adult where they grew up, it feels like they're, they're not making progress, but other people live in the same place that they grew up in a super happy and content.
I saw that Bodhi, um, rode his bike for the first time on training
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:00] wheels. Yeah. So we've, we've uh, We've gone from balanced bike. To a bike with no training wheels, which I think is the reason for balanced bikes,
Josh Janssen: [00:09:11] balanced bikes,
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:12] no pedals. You just use your feet and the ground, but then you can like, it's got a little platform for your feet to hold up on when you get enough momentum.
And so they get the they've learned balance. Yeah. He just doesn't know what pedals. Really do or, and so now he's getting there, but we, we were given a bike from, for our neighbors, um, one that, uh, my friend's kid, um, learned on. And so now bodies' got it. It's fucking great.
Josh Janssen: [00:09:37] So do you go to a carpet look like you were in an open
Tommy Jackett: [00:09:39] space?
Yeah. I saw this car park. People use it for dog training. People use it. I mean, it's not good shitting on the concrete, if you're a dog, I mean, Bodhi, Shandler, concrete, but that's another story now. It's like a fenced off. Uh, carpark that, um, I just thought that's great. Like he can learn on that solid.
Josh Janssen: [00:10:00] It feels like this sort of environment where my dad would take his drag cars to get some sick he's mates, fucking got the 35 mil camera and all this stuff is getting really nice shots, you know?
Oh yeah, the day's perfect. That's fucking polished it up. Taking the hot rod out, getting on the angles potentially even let's get a rainy day where they've got like the water. So you get the reflection. I can imagine. Now they're using LA daylights, you know, some nightlights hidden and the, um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:26] People pour water onto the ground to get like that shot.
So you hold your phone down and close. Yeah. You get the reflection of the car. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's
Josh Janssen: [00:10:35] a lot of effort. So Bodie, how many, how many rides did he get where he was before he
Tommy Jackett: [00:10:40] born? No, he's straight off the Mark balanced. That's the thing about the balance, but it's just the feet learning how to.
Pedals and understanding that you can't push back. Yeah, because it will take, the bike has put the brakes on. Yeah. Like we've done it around the backyard, but it's grass is really thick. And so there's like no real chance of him. Getting a nice coast happening, but he learned it. Yeah. It's um,
Josh Janssen: [00:11:05] very exciting.
Last week we were working with Matt, Dave Eller on a new video. That's coming out on his channel in a week and a half. You excited. I am. I mean, it was, it's a, uh, it's a hit pace. Well, so Dave Ella, he does productivity or like self-development sort of stuff like very much self-development but then he puts.
Sketches throughout his video. So who have funny moments, especially with him and his wife, Nat they'll do, you know, funny shit in the videos. And so, uh, he was enjoying doing a bunch of sketch. I think we filmed more sketches than what we did. Actual content. Yeah.
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:43] Is that because,
Josh Janssen: [00:11:44] um, we've got nothing to say.
No, but the other, but what I realized is how bad I am an acting. Uh, I
Tommy Jackett: [00:11:52] would agree. I think there's a w I reckon there'll be a way to get you going. That gets you really great, but it's not, when you say action, and here's your line, there's a version of you. You overthink the fucking line and next minute
Josh Janssen: [00:12:08] you like being some robot,
Tommy Jackett: [00:12:11] but that's not saying you're bad.
There is a way to do it where it's like, if you just didn't know the camera was on, if you were just filmed in everyday life with it. Yeah. Knowing you a bang film. Yeah. It's the
Josh Janssen: [00:12:21] guy who's funny. But then he's like, Oh, I'm going to write a bit and he's completely unfunny. So yeah, I would, I wonder if there's some sort of, uh, Class that I could take.
I was thinking like acting that I could try. And so there was just this one saying that Dave Ella was trying to get where he's filming and he wants me to realize the camera I've said something. He wants me to realize the camera's there and then sort of look away and he laughed and I thought. This is very funny.
This went very well. And he was just like,
and so I find it very hard to like, to not go pantomime. Yeah, I know. I'm trying to look at the camera and make it feel natural. I mean,
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:08] that's been your feedback. Let's not make something pantomime, but maybe it's your fee because you know, that you'll become pants. I just
Josh Janssen: [00:13:15] can't. Yeah. I just
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:16] can't act, put a camera on a kid and then they start being silly or like doing clearly sh playing up for the camera.
That may be the version.
Josh Janssen: [00:13:24] That's like the writing. Cause when we're sitting around, we're in hysterics, coming up with ideas and then it's like, okay Josh, can you perform them? And it's I fall apart,
Tommy Jackett: [00:13:36] but what, what is it? I mean, most people put a camera in front of them. They fall apart. I mean, I started like, you cannot, it's very unusual.
You're very unusual being, if all of a sudden there's a camera on you and you don't start changing, changing, or understanding how your appearing, which is the thought, like there's a thought, which I, I know I've had times where I've, I'm connecting with what I'm saying and I've dropped that a little bit.
But think about fucking Tom cruise. You know, the guy has been acting for 30 years. Just how seamless. I mean, every film is that he's, that has Tom cruise in. It is a version of Tom cruise. Like it w you would end up these people work out how to. Do a version of themselves in this acting format, which that's why it's, it's hard.
Yeah. People try and for years go to school, you know, for a long time, but I mean, what are you, what do you want out of it in pro? Like if you were to, if you were to land a deal today,
Josh Janssen: [00:14:36] it's just the basic thing. It's just like, I had to pretend like I was on a FaceTime call. And you and David, you're not looking at the screen phones here.
You're looking
Tommy Jackett: [00:14:45] out there. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:14:47] I feel like when I'm on a FaceTime call, I'm trying to be natural and so natural. I'm not looking at the FaceTime the whole time, but it's just do one where you're looking at the screen. And so anyway, I think it will be fun. It comes out in a week and a half. Um, uh,
Tommy Jackett: [00:15:04] there's something about making.
It's something with a professional like Matt and us, not understanding how it's going to come out. But just going through that experience, because this is what we send people through exactly. With our production company. A lot of the time people are scratching their heads saying, I don't know, what's this for what's this bit for, I
Josh Janssen: [00:15:25] literally said to him, I'm like, make sure you edit this funny, you know, like pick my best bit.
Um, but I took him to the great ocean road, the 12 apostles, which is the classic Josh Janssen experience. Uh, Nearly run out of petrol. Yeah. That's well, so, you know, get to a polo Bay. It's like an hour and a bit out of, um, from where the 12 apostles are. And I just assumed that for an hour and 15 minutes, there's going to be a petrol station.
And so I saw, I looked at, it was like 90, uh, 93 kilometers to get to the 12 apostles and 96 kilometers of petrol. Well, I miss a perfect. So anyway, yeah, like when we're like half an hour out and we hadn't seen a petrol station, I was like, Oh, you know what, I'm going to put one in on my phone, pulled over, put one in.
And then as we got to the petrol station, it was like a little Hill. And you drive up at all. That was, there was a bus stop, no petrol station. And so Dave, Ella is just like, is like, Like laughing, but like could turn into a cry. And that had gone to the bathroom. Cause the bust up there was like a toilet or whatever.
And um, it's just like, Ugh, I can't believe it. They're like, this is so avoid, uh, like avoidable. Like I cannot believe so he's walking out. I was like, ah, I'm like, okay, well maybe, um, What we'll do is because I've run out of petrol before you contact a, like a roadside assistance, which is RACB, which we pay for.
They'll just fill up the cup,
Tommy Jackett: [00:17:07] which when you're in the city, there's a bunch of them cruising around, ready to take
Josh Janssen: [00:17:10] your call. And so I did, um, pay for the membership. Yeah. He paid for the membership. Exactly. And so I had said, Oh, like, it's going to be fine. What we'll do is once we get to the 12 apostles, I'll just call our ACV, get them to come and they can fill out whilst we're enjoying that.
And so we made it to the 12 apostles and then I remembered, I was like, uh, like I didn't, I realize I'm like, you know what? Just like, if you're a pilot and you have passengers, if you're going to go down, you're not having the conversation with the passengers. You know what I mean? So I spoke to my co-pilot brain.
I was like, Hey. I was just thinking, I don't think RAC V will come here for free, because I think I remember that it has to be within like a hundred kilometer radius or whatever of your house, if it's outside of that, you're paying and all that. So I think it's going to take awhile. So I'm like, I think if we've learned anything about all that whole Petro thing being blinking for a long time, like, it'd be the petrol might like, I was like, I've never seen it.
and it's like, we're 20 with 20 Ks out of the 12 apostles. So we get there and have that conversation with Bree and like, let's just risk it. It's 10 kilometers to the next town that it has petrol and say, let's just do it. And so. Every moment. We got a chucked it into neutral. I was just rolling. Rolling, rolling.
And I think that in the grand scheme of things, nearly running out of petrol made the whole road trip. Like how grateful do you become. For petrol when you nearly run out. Yeah. Very grateful.
Tommy Jackett: [00:18:54] I mean, I've, I've rolled into a petrol station now with it, like stall before. It's a great feeling. Yeah. And so, but if you get to, if you didn't, if you were, if this story ended with you running out of petrol and waiting for four hours on the great ocean road, yes.
It would have been a
Josh Janssen: [00:19:11] nightmare. It would have been, as I kept saying, it's a funny story, isn't it? It's a funny story. And I had my torch. So if it got dark, we had the torch and so that it would have been a fun adventure. And the thing is because the great ocean road, it's like the Pacific highway. Isn't, it's very sort of windy.
Beautiful bit. Once you go from a polo Bay to the 12 apostles, it's going more sort of inland it's like the Artway ranges. That's actually where three-day deal got lost. You had to hitchhike, but it did make me like, just like the Grampians. Where I was like, you know what? Never like there's a lesson I'm always going to bring enough water, stay hydrated.
There was definitely a lesson of plan out your Petrel. And where are you going to get the petrol from?
Tommy Jackett: [00:19:58] It is a good point because it's not close gradation road or the 12 apostles is hours and hours and hours. So your car can only last year, maybe four hours. Max, did you not leave with a full tank?
Josh Janssen: [00:20:10] I had a quarter of a tank, so it gave one from Melbourne.
So it did, it did pretty well. That's really good. Yeah. So it wasn't that's on you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I thought like I would just get it very, it's one of those things where it's you? Um,
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:24] yeah, I don't know what happened. What happens if you have an electric car? Like, can you do day trips like this,
Josh Janssen: [00:20:30] talking about this?
We'll say like, um, uh, Dave Ella reckons that if we're in a Tesla. It would have just liked, started driving to a pitchell's it's like the drones it's like, I can't actually go any further, uh, return
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:44] to
Josh Janssen: [00:20:44] home function. Yes. But I did think that I was like, you know, if this was a Tesla, I would be thinking about things very differently.
Like you've really like baking in your entire experience around where are you going to stop? Well,
Tommy Jackett: [00:20:58] there is. So there's a. Istation halfway between Sydney and Melbourne. That is a Tesla supercharger charge charge station. I think that's what you'd have to just fully charge get to there and then get this knee fully charged.
I mean, I don't know it quite nice. I'm not in that world to have to think about
Josh Janssen: [00:21:15] it. Interesting. Like, um, uh, Jack post has a Tesla and, um, Uh, yeah, you have to, like, you can, there's different types of charges. Like there's the ones that you've got like, um, that's a lot slower or there's the Tesla supercharge type units and there's only, so he had an app where he would open it up and say, Oh, there's one at the shopping center.
And so you end up sort of like a, but you pay. So the way that it works is like you, um, you put it in, you plug it in and that like connects to your account and it will auto debit. I really like from your phone or whatever, but it is quite, it is quite quick.
Tommy Jackett: [00:21:53] Yeah. I mean, it's like, um, the quick charges for your iPhones and things like that.
Um, I was last time I was watching. Have you heard of this guy that was Epic on YouTube? No. I mean, how many, what I love about YouTube is that you just find these people that are living some life that's not your own, not even flashy is what I'm talking about. Just like. They're very popular. Yeah. But somehow you never heard of them.
Yeah. But you see, I think the popularity ends up drawing you into that.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:24] How would you describe? Cause I think this is interesting. How would you describe what this person does? Like if you were introducing them to someone, what are they?
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:32] Um, so, or YouTube, but they, um, this specific person. Okay. They are a, uh, reformed prankster.
Josh Janssen: [00:22:42] So they had a prank YouTube channel
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:44] and now become. It's almost like prank, but positive
Josh Janssen: [00:22:50] pranks. They're more than just the classic Franks. It's like the cutting of the ear, Paul. This is that guy I
hate,
Tommy Jackett: [00:22:58] but it's just him now. One fun. He, um, that video that he has, where he cuts people's headphones and gives them airport AirPods.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is like 40 or 50 million views. But then he's doing stuff like, uh, The start of the year 2021, he was giving people 2020 $1 and just going around for a day, he probably did it like six times. And these people like you, which at that point, I, I really liked it when someone really needed it.
And they were like just blown away and just could not believe it, but there's something like he's literally just, it is, it is putting prank, prank channel to good use. You are making money. There was one where he, um, Venmo American sort of money transfer system, you know, what would it be like net bank for us?
It's like, can I have your, your pay ID? Would you, I could send your mobile number money from my bank account. If you've got to set up, Venmo's a similar thing, just a different is that it
Josh Janssen: [00:24:02] it's like pay pal essentially, but it's like on your phone and it's a very. Easy. One of the interesting things is I think that there's a social element, so you can actually see what people are transferring to each
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:12] other as well.
He goes up and says, can I have your Venmo just to random people and then transfers them a hundred bucks, but there is something weird about like the, you can see, he did mention that. Yeah. But I mean, people love it. It is a bit weird.
Josh Janssen: [00:24:26] Yeah. The positive prank thing I see, I see the appeal. But then I imagine if like he's playing with scissors close to your face.
Do you know what I mean? Like he's like, he's like, he's a ha I'm like, this is, this is harmless. I'm going to cut. Like if a stranger came up to me with
Tommy Jackett: [00:24:45] scissors, your jumpy, jumpy, Josh
Josh Janssen: [00:24:50] active defense, I would disarm him and lodge. The torch, like I would use the scissors on him, but that's the risk, isn't it?
Like, I think it's pretty dangerous to go up. And he even just like goes up to a chick who's with her friends and he just grabs her air pot out. And I'm just like, yeah. Okay. So what I don't like about it is, uh, what you're saying is that if you get in my personal space, Uh, you'll give me this, but it's not an agreed upon the thing.
So it's like, no, hang on. If, if you said, Hey, I'm going to get into your personal space and I'll give you an air pod, max. I'll still tell you to fuck off.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:31] And so if he came up to you and cut your air pot, no. Your ear pods. Yes. You went from airport maxes to air
Josh Janssen: [00:25:41] pod pros. Yeah. Yeah. The maxims are the ovaries.
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:44] So you went, you went back to the cord ones. Cause you didn't like the
Josh Janssen: [00:25:47] wireless plus. Yes. And so do you know what I mean? Like, it's very presumptuous to think that are like, this gives me permission to do this
Tommy Jackett: [00:25:55] thing. I wonder how many, you don't say where there is someone pushing back like that. I could imagine that the case.
Yeah. I mean, it is, it is, I just got stuck in this hole, watching it, trying to understand his whole channel. Where's he getting that money sort of things. Is he doing it? Yeah. So, um, stimulus check Americans. A lot of them didn't receive it. It was like 1200 bucks. He's going around asking people, have you got your stimulus stimulus check and then giving them 1200 bucks or knocking on the front door and saying, um, uh, I'm moving to the area.
Uh, how much do you pay for rent here? And they're like thousand thousand a month, nine 50. And then he pays a month's rent, which was kind of nice. These people were so blown away.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:39] And so is it, is it content that you're seeking out? Like how the fuck I found fun. Do you watch more of that? Like, are you like, Oh, I want to click through and watch me.
Yeah, bet
Tommy Jackett: [00:26:49] you did. I did. And I did look at his channel and then you scroll far back enough and then you start seeing some negative pranks. I'm like, you guys are a form printer. Like it's this stuff upfront. Where he's starting to make a bit of money, but if you had to go through pranking people, making people not feel good to then get money to then give back, not
the
Josh Janssen: [00:27:09] best.
Well, this is the Mr. Based model. Isn't it?
Tommy Jackett: [00:27:12] What, what, in what way? Like he,
Josh Janssen: [00:27:13] like, he, he uses, so is getting so much money from channel, like from his channel that he can do things like re-invest, which then sort of this cycle where it's like, okay, I can spend a million dollars on this high stakes. Video, because I know it's going to be seen by X amount of people.
Um, you know, he bought an Island, he would do things like, um, you know, uh, the most expensive meals in different places or whatever. So it's like, and the funny thing with expensive food. They get to a point where it's like, you know what, like this nothing's, there's nothing more we can do with this chicken.
So all they do is add golden leaf, like, is that golf? It's like, you know what, it's actually $20 worth of chicken and they've just gotten some gold leaf and just put it on. Like, it is like, what is, what is gold leaf? Tastes like is gold leaf. Is
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:05] that tasty? The guy, salt Bay, you know, the guy, I don't know his name, but he has a bunch of restaurants in, um, I think Dubai, any, any does a huge bits of steak, but he now doesn't mean gold, gold leaf.
I don't know. I mean, it's, you're going to be pulling gold.
Josh Janssen: [00:28:22] Yes. At that point. Yes it's it's it doesn't appeal to me. I've got a recommendation of a guy you should check out. Mr. Taster is the taster. So, uh, he leaves in Iran. And he does all Persian food and he's he's had in holes
Tommy Jackett: [00:28:36] and shit. Like, does he dig holes and build.
Like, um, fire like that. He's
Josh Janssen: [00:28:41] going to like restaurants and stuff and it's amazing, but he's, he's done a couple of videos. If you type in Mr. Taster on YouTube, you'll see that he's done some tours for some people who've come to Iran and he will take them to all the different places he's got real, crazy hair.
He's sort of like bolding, but then at the back, it's sort of like all big he's keeping it. Yeah. He's got one circular and he's got one, like with his glasses, one of them circular, the other was square. It's like
but he, um, yeah. Do you like those glasses? I could imagine one day getting them. Yeah. I'll have a similar hairstyle. So why not? Um, you know, very good. Well, happy Monday. I think it's going to be a very good way. It's going to be great week. It really does feel that way. So on the mindset, you know, well, I was very negative last week, but I think that what I've learned is doing stuff.
Even like doing some work on the weekend, like I'd been so adamant. I'm not doing any work on the weekend, actually doing work on the weekend. Made me feel good. Why? I think it's just because it's
Tommy Jackett: [00:29:47] like, was it that you hadn't done?
Josh Janssen: [00:29:49] Nah, no, just, no, it was just stuff that being sitting with me with, ah, I need to get back to this or that, or I need to do.
And so just sitting down and doing it, it actually makes me feel better. So I think like I remember being a kid. Like it was common. Like my dad would work six days a week. He would work every Saturday. I think that's pretty common. Like, you know, for parents to work. Six days, like their job requires them to work like a half day where they're like, Oh yeah, we started at nine and finish at one or whatever it is.
And I was like, geez, I've gotten a bit soft around Saturdays. And so you've always
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:22] been pretty soft around Saturdays in saying that you're the dude who is so softer on Saturdays in your comms, but fuck, do I get emails from you on a Saturday with updates and you mean whole things that you've been working.
You say you're not working or you say we will, we don't want to do that,
Josh Janssen: [00:30:37] but you put in a solid why I'm always thinking. And so it's just not for, and so the thing is, what I'd like to do is I think actually formalize it in some way where it's like, you know, can wait six days,
Tommy Jackett: [00:30:49] you're working
Josh Janssen: [00:30:49] 600. I think it's the like, so I like whenever I'm working on the weekend, Oh my gosh, and be doing this, shouldn't be done.
It feels good. And so the thing that I think that, um, I like the idea of, because my favorite type of work is on my own at my computer going through bits and pieces. But when your, like, when you've got attain and you're doing productions, you don't get like you're going from meeting to meeting from Cole.
Like it, it doesn't have, you don't have the control. Of your time. Like, I know I get why people get into the office at like seven, because they're like, you know what? I can just get two hours of my own time where I can do my thing before the rest of the day will just be completely taken over. And I think it's unrealistic for me to think that I can do that seven thing at 9:00 AM.
Definitely. Does that make sense?
Yeah,
Tommy Jackett: [00:31:48] there. Yay man. I'm, I'm totally with you. You feel like you can get ahead. On a weekend. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:31:56] And so maybe like the thing is maybe because we're still good at not doing crazy hours. Like, like I think that if I was just to open it up a little bit, cause I feel like I have gotten into, I went from being a freelancer.
Yeah. It was very like wouldn't work all day and would start work at 9:00 PM. And then we'd work through the night or things like that. And so I've gone the other way now where it's like, I'm a nine to five, like trying to have that structure, but then you get to the end of the day, it's like, ah, fuck, I haven't done all these things.
And then, so I was like, Oh, I'll do it the next day. And then you get in at nine and then other things come up. And so yeah, there is something in even the, the, um, the, the 7:00 PM email sesh. He's nice. Just opening your laptop at 7:00 PM and just being like, it's going to punch out this stuff. So it's done.
So it starts, I even went through, you know, you saw my messages, I had 60 something messages. Ah,
Tommy Jackett: [00:32:55] which is scary. Well, my advice to you is just open them and forget about what they did. Oh, good. So I went through, if they've been there for a while. They have, they've already been forgotten about, but you have the anxious, fucking someone tapping on your shoulder and you turn around, you know, who it is.
Josh Janssen: [00:33:10] Instagram DMS did the same thing, went through to the point where it's zeroed out. And so I'm at a, like, what's feels very good right now is I'm, you know, I've gotten back to the emails. I need to get back to like I'm in a good spot. And so if I can just it's that whole thing is like, if you are doing inbox zero, as you go, if you're archiving, as you go, it's a very.
Easy. I noticed that even if I give it a few days, it gets crazy really quick.
Tommy Jackett: [00:33:38] Yeah. Well that's, that's email. You're going to constantly be attending to it.
Josh Janssen: [00:33:43] Yeah. Another great book, a book recommendation, Dale. Carnegie's how to stop. Worrying has been a favorite of mine for many years, but I'm just like, if you're feeling a little bit out of control, put it in.
Listen, what's the
Tommy Jackett: [00:33:55] what's one way to stop worrying. I couldn't even
Josh Janssen: [00:33:58] tell you. But the thing is that it's just like, just in the Mo in the moment going to bed that just the unconscious just sort of, Oh, dude thing.
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:08] It helps meaning listening to it. Yeah. Just listening to
Josh Janssen: [00:34:12] it or whatever, because it just like, so if you think about,
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:16] but then you don't know what's been said in it.
Josh Janssen: [00:34:18] No, no, no, no. So I'm not falling it, like I'm, I'm listening and I'm hearing it all at once. So the thing, but it's just the. But it is more the unconscious mind, not in regards to, you're not listening, but if you think about like the unconscious mind around like social media, so when you're on social media and you're scrolling, you're unconsciously thinking and connecting all these dots.
And so just by having the unconscious thing being, you know, you don't need to worry. Well, I like that. Like every chapter
Tommy Jackett: [00:34:50] actively, actively pursuing. Yeah, it's not a state of not worry versus. Mindlessly scrolling through. Yeah. Clans content. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:03] Yeah. Yeah. So the reason I enjoy that sort of passive, I think that's what podcasts are for a lot of people.
It's like the passive listening and yeah, maybe it doesn't have the same effect as active listening, but just have it like, think about the space around you and how that affects things and impact because things and
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:22] music think about the difference. If you're listening to intense. Uh, hard rock or something versus something melodic.
Yeah. I mean, just chill, been
Josh Janssen: [00:35:33] listening to a lot of
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:34] violins. Yeah. How's that doing?
Josh Janssen: [00:35:37] It's very good. There's a, what's it doing for you? There's a band. It's well, just like it's good for writing because it's background instrumental stuff. You not having to worry about singing, but all the songs, you know, and love.
Yeah. Yeah. So there
Tommy Jackett: [00:35:49] covers Dan in with violin.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:55] It's all violin, rather than singing, float,
Tommy Jackett: [00:36:00] that instrument you gave.
Josh Janssen: [00:36:02] Yeah, because I'll tell you what it's called. I'm just going to go into my Apple music before we head. So you can all, you can all listen to it. Um, it is cold.
What are you listening to?
Tommy Jackett: [00:36:19] God, I don't even know as in a podcast or music, music, what am I listening to? Oh, it depends. Travis
Josh Janssen: [00:36:27] Scott, vitamin string quartet. That's what it's called guys. Listen to this now. Vitamin V I T a M I N, string quartet, Q U I R. T a T and they do all the covers. So they do a song that brain, I, um, maybe it's a, um, That's called home.
If you just search home, they, uh, when we're in Italy and we were like entering a medieval town that will stay and we had that gone and it's like, feels like beautiful.
Tommy Jackett: [00:37:05] So anyway, there is one thing about, um, humming something, if you can't like we can't sing. Yes. But you can't even remember when you hum something.
Yes, it sounds perfect in your head. Did not
Josh Janssen: [00:37:15] sound good. Well,
Tommy Jackett: [00:37:16] I can't gauge what the fuck the song is. But it's amazing how, when you do it, it's clear in your own
Josh Janssen: [00:37:22] mind where the problem is. I think that it's got the same, feels like home to me feels like home to me by that song.
Tommy Jackett: [00:37:32] All right. Let's pump it in the
Josh Janssen: [00:37:33] office.
Yeah. I can't play it now because we'll get taken down choppy. Right. But typing home. Uh, and then, uh, that bar band that I just mentioned called vitamin. Something called vitamin string quartet. But what I say, I don't know it was because I spelled the others vitamin string quartet, check it out. Uh, enjoy the rest of your day guys.
We'll say tomorrow, have a good one. Have a good one. Love you. Bye. We'll see you tomorrow. And the next day we'll wait. See ya.
Tommy Jackett: [00:38:05] Bye.