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It's a daily Talk Show Episode 759

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tally smile.

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And we're doing a bit of a big brother deep dive.

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We have to write we have to we can't ignore the elephant in the room which is that it is back.

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I didn't say that.

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That's a big coil.

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According to Josh his partner Bree, who? I mean Is she on the show? She

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does a little bit like brain oh

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my god like there's a fart like

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the hottest housemates FYI.

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Casey, Casey, somebody familia,

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someone mentioned it in the discord and I'm trying to work out with something

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No, not to my knowledge.

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And so this idea that it is shoot, obviously like where do you think that comes from?

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It's It's just a different show. I you know, I'm a big fan of the show. That's why I audition. I think you know, it's always fine to me when these people auditioning for the shows. I actually don't watch the show before. Yes, you have

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you didn't audition for this round. No,

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of course not. No. Josh,

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for the first time tally was on one of the original seasons of Big brother. What do you

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want to add? 200 to 2013 Sorry, I'm season 10. Season 10

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Yes, a good number.

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Yeah. There's only a few people I feel like people remember from Big Brother Sarah Moray with the island Gaelic Island. Okay, Alex works I believe at NOVA as a news reader. Yeah, hot

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dogs. No, that's I'm Michael brick. Who was a techie slapping boy Ah, yeah,

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we knew that. I think people go hot dog because I think turkey slapping too hot. Oh,

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can you just one second imagine tag you slapping today. Oh my god. Cry.

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Same thing the other day like even the applied stuff. Imagine if that was on yeah well I've ever seen all over the internet in a second.

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Obviously I knew going in because so basically what happened was so channel 10 had it for like 10 years ran into the ground they had like a play they had the nude showers they had the Dirty Dancing all that stuff. Then Channel Nine bought it back after a short hiatus and then I watched one season of channel nine's version of it there was no apply it was very much a family that they wanted to they're really pushing the sort of family friendly version of it like it's a family show family family family saw that they had no fun bits allowed and so I was like, You know what, I wouldn't have done it if it was the old show. Knowing that me showering nude might yet no, I didn't know it was no applied. No uncut. No, not yet. That

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will tell you as your lawyer like

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not my lawyer, like to

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cover your contracts, what I didn't get in 2013 we were made. What did you What did you get given as how are we then

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25

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so 25 year old. You are in PR then no

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advertise, advertise. database you name

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it like well out of the inflow there was no such thing and at a talent sort of talent agency style What did you get given before you went in like what was the lot

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It was a lot of stuff like it was mainly to do with the actual show and not making the show basics so we couldn't tell anyone around us that we were going on the show we couldn't we could tell like a select handful of people we couldn't tell. Basically, they were just threatening you know, if your name gets out if it gets late. You're going on the show. We'll just drop you

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Tommy's talking about cash. So how much did you make? Oh, no, I didn't I wasn't thinking I really good question.

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That kind of stuff.

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Josh is pretty pretty.

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Very sweet. Very sweet.

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So sweet.

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scotch. Oh, babe.

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So it was very fruity.

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and sell What's it like? What is the deal? Was everyone getting paid the same? We get

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to it. We Get to 500 a week. It's nothing.

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It was covering costs.

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It was cut. It's the idea is the way they pitch it. It's competition. I never saw it like that but it is your you're in there vying for a quarter of a million dollars. And they just want to make sure that when you leave you come out even they don't need to come out, you know in the red and don't need to come out with a surplus or job seeker job. That was just enough money for me. But we had people in there that had kids that had three kids and a house and a mortgage. There was no way they would have been breaking even Yeah, no way.

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I mean, what evidence did they What did they ask for your tax returns? they asked for your bank statement

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is a blanket amount for everybody

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to check. It's like Matt, this will keep you going right

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on track and we there was a there was a copy of the contract. I never forget his copy of the contract in the house in like a plastic folder. And if we were ever kind of veering towards breaking said rules, and it was mainly stuff

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like it's like an eBay and eBay they've got like

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Other roles like we couldn't talk about the audition process once in the house Yeah, we couldn't we couldn't acknowledge the camera mental cameras couldn't break the fourth wall. So if we heard because you could hear them like they just hear you can eat a memory notice memory drunk and got topless again. I know it's very out of character for me, but you know, that Telly was around and I could hear that all the boys laughing behind the mirrors. But we're not allowed to acknowledge that and break the fourth wall. So we would call them the pistons in the roof. Like they don't always hear those possums and someone else is like, yeah, I hit the possum. That's great. But you know Greg behind me just like snorting into his

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great great I feel like when I watched a tour of the new house, there are cameras in the toilet

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always. This is really stuff happens to the toilet. You are upset. the only the only place you have in that house for privacy with a lock is the toilet. That's the only place you can go to by yourself and lock a door. Everyone else in that house. free for all,

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but you didn't even get a hang up about like shitting. So was that a big issue? Do you know what,

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funnily enough? Um, so the first couple of days

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better than him. Tell the guys

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laugh it out and let me know when you finish now we're done. No, actually, it was an extra problem, Josh. So the first couple of days in the house, I actually really had no issue with it. I'm a bit of an exhibitionist. I didn't get off on someone watching me, but I didn't care about it. But most people found it really disconcerting having a because I had a flashing red light, right? sitting there and it's, it's this far, it's about that cameras for me and it's just flashing like recording at the entire time. And like girls had their periods and the guys trying to jerk off in the toilet. So it was a lot happening in the toilet, Greg.

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Again, and so were they allowed to use them.

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So the idea was that obviously as I said, like most of the fun stuff happens in the toilets, like you're upset you go to the toilets, you won't have a little bit for someone you go to the toilets. You're drunk and you want to you need to spirit toilets. A lot of fun juicy stuff happens in the bathroom so they can't not have that covered. But we were told that unless it was something like that, like we were having a sacred chat or a whispering session, it was just us using the toilet it wouldn't go you still know that there was a guy whose job it is to watch that camera in the control room. Yeah, that's just the fact

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wonder how many perverts

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off the show that kind of

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Greg here

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I had this guy message me and say hey, Telly, you know me we've ever met but I was actually a camera guy during your time on the show and I didn't really feel like I followed your journey and I've seen you for a while you followed is me taking a shit.

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Break Greg. Jason's and so give us a idea of the because I haven't watched it yet. Big Brother. 2020 versus 2013. What What is this show and what was the last Right.

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So I think I mean, I'm big brother loyalists, and I've watched it since its inception. And at the crux of what the show is about, it's about you know, the voyeuristic you know, watching these people live our lives. The The show is about watching us get up, wash, you know, brush our teeth, have a shower, slowly make breakfast, start chatting about our day. That's what the show was about. They thought that you know, audience have changed. And they kind of took a leaf out of Big Brother Canada and B rather us his book, which is more like a survivor esque show. So it's a lot more. Shoji based, you know, we kind of there's an unspoken kind of roll with my series where it's like, we're all in here for the experience. No one's really in here for the money. That's how I felt. I now have learned that I was a dumb dumb and actually, people were playing with Chateau j and I just made one. Tim doba. Okay, yeah, arguably one of the best plays without ever saying he won a series went on to be a intruder in the series after Ross and then went on to be an intruder in Big Brother Canada. So He's an amazing Big Brother plastic curly haired girly hat guy. Yep, he bought a crocodile with his earnings. He did. He's a big fan of the Owens and he bought he sponsored earnings. Wow um so my thing is I find it really hard as a as a original fan of the show

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what do you do with the crocodile?

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She's actually have just responses. It's a go she

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by going through UNICEF

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Christmas. Yeah, I had to go one. I'm sure.

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Yeah, three years. And so anyway, sorry. Um,

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so yeah, it's just it's really hot. It's just a different show. You know that. First of all, we have these challenges, physical challenges, which you've never had before. And we're getting a challenge at night. We're also getting an eviction tonight, which to me makes no sense because if we're losing a house made a night we're not investing our time into anyone like if we're not getting enough. The first episode we had a challenge and an eviction in the first app. I don't even know half their names like I didn't care about them enough because we hadn't been given enough time to get to know these people. So to me, that's really bizarre. It's really it's really weird watching them strategize out loud and discuss nominations together because that was never like, I got a warning. So basically you get three warnings. And the third one, you're kicked out of the house. We weren't allowed to discuss nominations was against the rules. And I was apparently once alluding to a metaphor, unknowingly In my opinion, and I got it I got a strike. So to watch the look around and be like, you and me together Yep, let's let's go for Joe. It was me. I'm like, whoa, oh, my god. Like,

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this is a new series a

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new series. I noticed too. It's like it is a sheet survivor. Like survival. Right? I love survival. There was strategizing doing all these things. And even the challenges in big brother like, pretty lame.

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Survivors stated IKEA. Yeah. not dangerous at all. Yeah.

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And you know what else that is something that they just come on board. And I think that this is something that was so beautiful about our series of Big Brother, is that we were so young And naive and innocent like Instagram wasn't a thing influences when a thing you know it was still such early days and we all when they're just really being starry eyed being like you know we're just so grateful to be here and we're so grateful opportunity you know most of us were either in there for the experience or in the in the money whereas these days you just say like they think they have it all figured out they're indebted become influences like I don't know that innocence is no longer it's impossible to cause a new reality TV show that don't that are that have that sort of pure naivety that we had because it just doesn't happen because we now know what happened was on the show you get to follow when you come in and influence at the

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end. It's a weird one because there's an understanding of the potential outside of winning any cash.

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Like I was so candid there you can tell they're all like we're on TV. This might lead to a Korea I'm gonna watch what I say I'm gonna bite my tongue was just like, oh, and then like, it's just such a different Well,

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I mean, who's the first that's gonna have our only fans account from this is big brother.

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Yeah, well, I'm I was gonna I was gonna ask around like sex, what's the rule of sex? And

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so what you said there are condoms available in the diary room. But you have to go into the dye room and request one you can't they're not just sitting there in a bowl.

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Greg's gonna fuckin pad and Penny Tali three. So

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it also means that if you're going in there to ask for a condom, they then get the opportunity to say, Yes, so basically, we hung over, I would go in there and ask for panadol because I have all that medicine, they sort of mind our medicine for us, which was difficult for people that were on a depressant had to go in there every day and ask your brother for your meds. But it was so that they could like you know, they have to keep an eye on that kind of stuff. But with a condom, right? So if we were hung over would go in there. We'd be like, Oh, hi, brother. And a lot. It'd be like this. You'd be like, Hi. Can I just get like two pennant Oh plays and you'd be like, sure, and they'd be like so how was your night and like before they gave you the meds then make you give them a review on what night before and then you Use that footage to storyteller from the night before, right? So you can imagine going in there and being like, middle of the night and be like, hey, Comic Con Dom like totally sit down like who's the condom fool? They're just like the milk the story? I mean, I never asked for a condom

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content Really? Yeah,

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they would completely use that for the content. But yeah, you're allowed to have sex now. People have sex in my series. I'm not sure about this series. I do know that a couple there's two people that get together romantically in the show.

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It's already filmed Yeah.

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What do you think?

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So 2013 you were living with that's what you want to say. You want to be a

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line so you'd see the daily show every night would be that 24 hours before which I think is it that's

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the show. That's what's great about love island as well. It's like the same thing you watching? Yeah, I

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wonder what they're up to. So why are you a loyalist? Why do you give a shit whether you

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I've just watched the show since you know, this isn't inception. I think it's one of the original. It's really one of the sort of original reality TV concepts started off in, in Germany, I think, and it's It's still a massive format across the globe in different ways and variation. And I just really feel like, especially, you know, the network said that they think that the viewers now need something different and new and exciting. I actually disagree. I think that especially after COVID, I think that we would have really loved a really true honest Big Brother, where we're just watching people hang out in a house, make breakfast, go for a swim, becoming friends, becoming lovers, whatever it is, I think we would have really loved that sort of pure format that the show used to be in.

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So if I butchered it. Absolutely. Yeah, I don't read it.

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Even the fact that Okay, so I've heard that. So I was in there for 10 weeks, and I was not by any means the last person not evicted. I've heard the whole thing only went for seven weeks. And so we're only going to get three weeks of the series. Because if squeezing in three days per episode, we're going to be done in three weeks.

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Well, I know. Happy Harry, a guy who regularly comes on to the show and he talks About in the forum we get screwed

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up. Well,

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it was up in 2013 if he was up in Queensland with these

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secret Victorian Big Brother

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I'm just on Big Brother dot fandom comm forward slash wiki Ford slash Telly smart and in here it's got the showdown history so yeah so you wind on the very first get a grip what was that

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I so these so this new series they have a challenge every episode which is like a ninja warrior meets survival challenge Don't ask me why we had one every Friday so once a week rather than one guy yeah, then they called me different and so it would be a mixture of sort of brain puzzles physical activity would be me so everyone had a chance right? It wasn't just for the strong boys or just for the spot. You know? I was a Smart Girls, smart boys or girls. And yeah, I randomly 1111 way can I get 5000 dollars.

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What did you do?

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I didn't like how did you like what? Well competition?

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voice Did you have

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cash? I got the cash trust me I know exactly where it went. So there was a spelling challenge. So we had a bunch of scrambled up words we had to put into right order to get the order and spell it correctly. And the last one, which is what they called it, probably we had to hold on to a pole for the longest.

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Did you win that hang in there? How long do you

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think there was a time I but I saw her up against right so I had a guy who was an ex football player, very, very fit guy. I got he was ex army very, very fit guy. And then one of the strongest girls in the house. He was just very, very muscley strong. And I looked at them when we first learned off and I was like, there's no way I don't have any I don't this is no I'm going to compete against these guys. And then they're like, okay, you know, hold on to the pollster and apparently according to other housemates. Everyone else's hands were like this on the poll, but apparently my wheedle sloth hands will like v it's like a full on grip, but also End of the day, I've got less white to hold. So the heavy boys that were holding on they're holding up more way shorter. Yeah, I randomly came through and I want it and I want $5,000 good. I also want to have a nomination power that was the other reward. So you get cash prize plus you also get nomination power. So you get to have power. It's always different every week it can be it changes every week, but basically, with nominations I get to have like, yeah, the sort of the foot up was that way combinations and I think from memory I saved my boyfriend. I saved my ex boyfriend jury that way, I think he was going to be up and then my ability was like take points away from someone and put them somewhere else and I like I saved him that way. How what is trust look like in a house like we everyone see. The thing about surviving really stresses me out because I look at that and I'm like, I just the thought of the fact that everyone's trying to fuck me over and I couldn't trust anyone that would eat away at my house would plan my anxiety. Like if you're an anxious person you already Think the world's out to get you you already convinced that you're going to die and that everyone hates you as an anxious person you already think that so to have people you know being this competition and be going up against you, I would just be like you hate me. Everyone hates me to trust anyone it would really fuck with my head. So I think that had I been more aware of the game people are playing in my series, it would have really done me to service but I was naive, and I was just I was like, little friends. My best friends. You said you love me. I love you what's waiting, I was gonna vote me out. To here. I haven't watched the show back because I just conduct myself but what I've heard is the main reason people were using to vote for me was that I was embarking in relationship when I was already in one. So I'm kind of glad that it wasn't like totally stinks like totally is the worst to live with. I'm glad it was like Talia is making a terrible life decision. Like at least I couldn't you know, fair enough. I was making a bad life decision. Have

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you ever nearly gone on another reality? Oh, one

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I've been asked if I would apply for Wolf, I would be keen for him to get me out of here. And I absolutely would still would hands down would do that show. I would be great TV because I'm terrified of everything. like they'd be like, Lion his coffin was I hate snakes, I'd be like, here's some snakes, but this is going to be great television for you. But I was came to that because in the day, it's raising money for charity of your choice. And obviously, I'm very, you know, close with dementia, Australia, it would be a great opportunity to raise awareness and funds for dementia Australia. Plus, I think it would give people an insight into who I am, who I actually am as a person that you guys know, rather than this person that everyone thinks I am based on a show I did seven years ago where they saw four minutes of me every night.

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So when you're like I've had friends who have been interviewed by producers. Have you gotten to sort of that stage with having conversation a

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producer email and say, you came for this, would you do this and I said, I board. He's my manager, and they went back and forth. But end of the day, they can only really ever have like one on reality TV reject. So if I'm not the most relevant or I think they do like a mass send out and then see who's said yes. And then from there they sort of cherry pick who they want. And if there's someone that's going to show that from last year versus a show from seven years ago, they're gonna get picked. I would love to the bachelorette. Love, love, love, love love. I would not I'm running up against 23 other girls. But how honestly how good would I

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be very good.

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I would be amazing television

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you would destroy destroy. Destroy.

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There's even there's even been gags about me doing like a tale of tequila shot at love and having like 10 boys 10 girls.

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Well, have you seen the show I saw on news.com do you there was an article around impregnating a woman i saw that i thought you know what

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I'm five minutes away from that.

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No joke was funny, Josh

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well, cuz Yeah, the way that it was an a pitch that was like that there was going to be 15 men that were Going to via generalise into a person and then they work out who

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wait what? That's the show.

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Sold it's like 15 guys who's going to impregnate a woman just

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the batch slob but the bachelorette but like the winner is gonna give her a baby rather than just shitty rainbows and chisel just exactly Isn't that it?

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Well yeah but the way that was pitched was that they were all having

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this like jerk of\f into her and see who's the strongest

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yes Yep,

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I did that and I would I was asked to do Pamela once a wife mean come on guys what I

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what about maps? What's that? I was asked

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to do mass I've been asked to do love Island

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well, that I mean map seems to be the one that was huge in the last couple of years. Yeah,

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but also like what a success right? It's not very high.

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Well, what is success now on television like I was listening to something this morning. an ABC show, probably 15 years ago got it was like poor ratings at one point. 4 million. Now you're lucky to get fuckin 200,000 millions on podcast almost gets more per month.

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A million is a golden number. So I think that if you get a million then that that's considered a success, but I feel like I would I don't this is the thing and this is what I've said before to producers. It's like a lot of people do these shows because they want to come out with what I already have. Right? So they they want to go on these shows predominantly to come out with an Instagram following invites to fun parties, movie premieres, events, free clothes, freebies, that's what they're going in there for. Interestingly, what I think makes me interesting Canada is that I already have that right so if I'm applying for the bachelorette, it's because I actually want to find love like I'm truly there for what the show is about. I'm not there to get Instagram famous. I'm already Instagram famous. And that's why Sophie monk really, I thought she was an interesting pic for the bachelorette because I was like she's already famous. So she's honestly obviously honestly on there to try maybe meet someone

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She's got She's famous and she's your cash and so she's

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like, you know with with all these shows like I don't want what most of these guys like if you go to the love Island auditions, I'm telling you now but 99.9% of the girls that are in that room auditioning that to become what I already am. Don't want to be famous on Instagram, they want freebies, they want to go to the parties that don't think they're actually going to find anyone they're like, you know what, what would be good though, is like following a job doing that. Whereas it's like I've already got all of that so if I'm applying for a job I'm gonna put my hand up or something like that to the right it's like I legit just hope that I might meet someone nice because I don't need anything else that comes with this shit. I already have it. Which makes me really interesting. Candidate definitely.

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I mean, what's your perception of influences and being perceived as an influencer? You know, I you know

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that you have already you know, I hate it. I don't like the word influence. I think it it doesn't quite faily describe everything that we do. I don't think I think it's belittling I think it comes with a negative connotation. I think that it's frowned upon by many people. I certainly you know, even on dating apps when people ask what I do, I start off with I'm a journalist because it's what I am technically. I say I'm a journalist. I'm a

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I'm a lawyer.

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Thomas Tom jacket, Tom Tom Tom.

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Billboard in Los Angeles.

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Background In that whatsoever apart from watching, like law and order or like Criminal Minds,

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absolutely not, man.

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Do you have the gift of the gab? i? I would you could tell us to SQL code on

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American you could definitely get out of a clause.

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You smile a lot. Yeah. You know you.

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You're honest, seemingly charming. Like you don't know. No. I was gonna see you and think he's gonna fuck me over.

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Am I unassumingly

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assuming in general? It Tommy's honestly really charming. I'm assuming Yeah, I'll take that with a shit hat.

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I'm wearing a skunk hat you

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realise that? It was like a two for one deal he like what's going on here?

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We go do something else so you could put on could you could you take it?

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Like this? No, it's great. Let's rock it. I just I just start a skunk again has such negative connotations. I don't know why you'd knowingly and like you chose to put a skunk on your head in my head just means you're gonna stinky but

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you brought up the bug chat. You remember the real stuff.

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By real man eat us. Real men wear pink and real man eat us and I've been coaching Mason on eating. We were both with George and I were both saying that he needs to just bite the bullet.

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We needed to live we needed to sort of settle some bad blood between Georgia and Tally. Tally was not vibing you George. I think it was the vibe you're giving off to her moustache

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used to being liked pretty instantaneously and like George was giving me not being like should

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we break it to tally that? You're the guy that was filming your

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push back? What's the pushback you're

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playing hard to get? Which is maybe why I mean, like, I'm kind of like what I have to do to like

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push back.

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There's there's

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not there is you said Who do you like more male grace and as if I'm not gonna say grace. I've had my sin Tally. Yeah, but you've met tally for like, much more Than I have I've known Tony for an hour

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that's a fair tideway

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so he's he's he's an honourable friend

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hasn't you? That's fair. You respect that?

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Absolutely. He's dead to me.

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And so the real man a DOS thing

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I think it actually is and is it a

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man's how like it because in Sam's mind it only happens if you have like giving a rim job and my like, No, you can be going down someone and just slot into the asshole.

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Sure. And so you think there's a distinction between a room job and eating? Yes. Wait, no.

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No, it has been just a no Yeah, why we every

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free. You say these. Nice to

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meet you at hospital. Sure. Yeah.

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Defending You

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know, I think that because it was such a big trip of like he was fucking running around Los Angeles saying

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if honestly hand on heart You can see that hat on hot nice takes nothing away from our time together. Right That's

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what I meant. If

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that sounds like

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takes nothing away from our friendship and my goddess as he's elda Dave it's only three types of it what I used to paint in myself real men a bathroom and a Dawson I've done my job.

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What do you think like, Is it a broader base? Do you think so? 80 of the ask, do you think it's a it's a it's a there's a level of exploration going?

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adventure. It's also about

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him being more Don't let the more generous. Yeah, thank you to his partner. Yeah, um, I just think that Yeah, I just think that it just takes him I don't know something about just like guys that are just not fast about that. I think that's so sexy,

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and so

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many is fast about it. So we've got some work to do.

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No, I get it. I mean, as a 35

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if he was really free, he wouldn't have a problem with it.

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And so, any tips if people listening in they're experiencing their first sexual experience? Are they getting into a relationship? How do you enter into all of this in 2020? What's the Do you have any tips for a young person as a lawyer? We want to run the telly and so what do you think? What do you what are sexual experiences?

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I think that you know, a lot of guys especially a lot of guys are like, Oh, no, like no one knew my asshole. It's like, we don't really mean that like most guys like a finger out there. At the very least.

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Put your hand up. No, I think Think.

To me, he's just

30:08
what do you say?

30:10
I like I'm okay with

30:13
a finger.

30:14
No, I'm all for putting a finger for him. Yeah.

30:18
Not my ass. Someone else's eyes say

30:21
you don't like a finger up era. No. Have you tried it? No, no, you haven't tried right? Yeah, it's true.

30:27
like myself as a liberal guy like I do, like, just open to stuff. Well,

30:32
you know, obviously, that's like really basic stuff that you're not being open to.

30:37
No free. Now you got a good point, and

30:41
I'd be like to stick with what happened. And

30:43
so what's that adding to Bri? So the finger in her asshole is very different to a finger in my ass or

30:50
anything that she enjoys that so why wouldn't you enjoy it the same vein? Yeah,

30:54
let's be George, what do you think?

30:57
You're the one who

30:59
George and I will talk about eating off before pulling sabs. And so

31:04
what is George now about 80?

31:06
More than you clearly know, what does he know?

31:10
fingers and I

31:13
listen to this show.

31:15
That's fine. I think your mom doesn't know. What do you

31:23
think it's a bit more full on then and actually,

31:25
thank you. Yeah. So I think in Sam's mind, he's like, Oh, you know, he knows a lot. Therefore, it's like it doesn't it can easily go from there to there very quickly.

31:34
I think this eating us is probably more common than I know.

31:40
Yeah. That's a sign there, I think which

31:41
I think was the other way around. Yes.

31:43
And that was,

31:44
I thought it'd be switched around. I thought I thought it'd be the other one. Yeah. Well,

31:47
I know he's like, there's a lot of saves grew up on Pornhub.

31:54
That's the problem. That's why he thinks it Yeah.

31:57
Yeah, right. Okay. So we were trying to say that like you Like it's not like ask play has to be like the one session and we just do everything in this one session it's very easy I'm sure I'm frame

32:08
premeditated ask play is not I don't know I haven't had premeditated ask but it's just sort of fading Yeah.

32:14
It's just all of a sudden I gotta figure out my bomb but even that's pretty good. But isn't that the same with site like

things like sitting on faces or stuff on faces

32:35
I never want to not see any more in my entire life.

32:41
I think that that like 69 sitting on faces those things just generally don't happen

32:49
every time this is a thing so when people find out guys that girls their first thing is like, oh, like did you guys Sousa and I'm like, okay, so yes, scissoring the thing that lesbian Sousa but like You see, sir as often as you would 69 like how often do you guys 16? Like literally never. Yeah. And when you first start dating or you first start playing together, you might do a couple you guys say semi regularly. No,

33:10
I mean, no, no, I think it's something but no, please

33:14
tell us everything. What do you think?

33:18
spice it up. But I think that's that's an admirable, like, if there are people who are 69 all the time.

33:25
It's not a regular, like if you're in a long term relationship. What do you think that is not 69 during every Wednesday, I just know

33:31
I know what you mean.

33:32
You just not festival. It's a lot of admin, you know, like, it's a lot of propping stuff up at odd places. Yeah, you're wondering what's happening back there. You're trying to focus on what's happening down it's a lot to mentally makes

33:43
more sense for a guy to be on the bottom in a 69 for a girl.

33:50
The other way I'm

33:54
69 being on top if I'm just saying I thought Fucking at that point. Well, I'm just you.

34:02
Some people might like that. All I'm saying is for somebody who is been in a girl and girl relationship, lesbian relationship. What is the who's going where?

34:12
Who decides really matter? Do I have a little bit of a hack for everybody? If you 69 on this side, so usually when I hear about this, right if you don't have sight, it's just like real. It's like spooning sex, but like, much more chilled. Oh, my God, that's gonna mean it's

34:29
never thought about that.

34:30
Then you're both lying down. No one's having put themselves up and you both comfy whilst you're doing what you're doing the other way around.

34:35
What do you reckon? If you were to do a survey, what's the most common sexual activity for a first date?

34:43
fingering? I hate that word. So finger finger loss. What do you guys call it? What do you guys call finger fingering? blasting is like you got superpowers coming out of your fingers. Then trust me most of you guys have really

35:01
bad but also do you think that fingering when I also think like being younger fingering was very much about putting the fingers fully in

35:12
the whole hand? Yeah

35:15
I feel like being younger fisting porn was a fisting go

35:19
well as a excellence Bo as someone who set goals VISTA was a big is a big thing

35:26
it's quite interesting guy

35:28
friends went to a my lesbian friends went to a fisting like workshop really apparently you have to I don't know much about facing but apparently you have to go in like this before you can get slicing and I put a big hand first of all Gordon Ramsay don't like you put your three fingers protect him. Yeah, once you're at Gerlach,

35:49
and so the

35:51
that side effect was

35:52
resting is facing begin to live in the face of

35:55
someone

35:59
Nola Ay,

36:01
ay ay, apparently Yeah, I'm not aware. I wasn't. I wasn't a fan of it, but people Ah, you're a lesbian you try to think of any way you can fuck differently

36:10
than just get more value. Just get

36:13
bang for your buck.

36:14
Yeah. And so because I feel like when I was young It was very much about sort of the

36:19
Office of someone JJ

36:20
Never did I feel like that was a thing. It was the man of

36:29
doing a lot of shit. It's fun. Trust me.

36:31
It's still out there on the internet. Right to stop it. You think about it. happening.

36:39
It's happening in fisting.

36:41
She's not a porn star, dude. It's happening over in the Valley in California. It's a California thing not to say it's porn. There's a lot of hiding. There's a lot of porn made in the Valley in California.

36:54
But so do you think that fishing is a big fishing thing outside locally, though.

37:00
Short people that'd be people that are primarily into fisting.

37:04
And so do you think I think the bigger question here is? How do you land? So before you've even had sex? You don't know if you have a quirk a kink? Sorry. How do you land on a kink? Because getting fisted is the left here on pepper. It's fine. You can

37:20
leave this here. I'm happy

37:22
to end up how do you land on a kink? Like I mean, you try, right? I mean,

37:28
what is the kink?

37:29
Right? How do you figure out you've got a kink? I guess you just tell you please tell

37:33
me I know somebody who loves to sniff mo as they're coming.

37:38
Are they gay? No, because animals are very

37:40
not. So what's what's the Emily? This is this is the thing that you chose the thing that you talked about a while ago? Yeah.

37:48
Greg, is it's meant to make it more

37:53
ammo on your first sexual.

37:56
Yeah, but then how do you so my point my point with the animal thing is the person that I know Does this I'm just like how do you land on it? Yeah, how do you land on it?

38:03
You obviously you've done it once you guys this is fucking amazing I'm not doing it without Ryan yeah

38:08
I can imagine the person that

38:10
is not right and I don't think I want to be someone who's like

38:16
JJ

38:17
we'll just aside it like having in the bedside table. No official employees

38:22
in the gay community because it relaxes your muscles completely so it also relaxes

38:28
so you get a bonus

38:32
drug as well.

38:33
It's so

38:34
you Josh, you had magnesium and you had it. It's nice.

38:38
Because the thing is that night tried.

38:43
If you get an erection, you take it.

38:48
You take a sniff event. three to one and for like five seconds you can't see anything you're running around. Let me tell you what.

38:58
It's like pipe cleaner. What is it?

39:00
Mo Mo nitrate is a depressant, which means it slows down the messages travelling between the brain and the body classified as an inhalant. It belongs to a class of drugs known as something Baba, which also includes something it's it's a vasodilator. So it

39:18
dilates your own blood vessels so you can have more blood flow. It feels

39:22
like when you stood up and you sort of say

39:24
stock but it's like head spin head rash. Yeah, it's it's in the festival community as a like it's sexual drug. Yeah. So

39:33
it kicks in other drugs. Yeah. That's the whole idea of taking it. Yeah, Catalina, z or MDMA. And then you have a sniffer that hypes it all into. I've heard

39:42
Yeah, it's like if you're, I can imagine if you saw your kid this would be a weird use case. If you show you a kid and makes you really happy then you sniff it and probably make you like use you for it

39:53
closest person to you. You want to just make out with them.

39:58
And this is so people use it. Wall a bit like having sex.

40:03
On a king? Yes. Yeah, that's a fair point. Like if anyone has a foot fetish, how did you get to the point where you realise you've got a foot fetish? She's

40:10
just been seeing kids fate. I mean, as you're growing up, you're, you're in school you're looking over you're like, there's Bianca's fate. I don't know why I feel the way I do about her feet. But I liked him in keeping it down and then you get to become an adult and you like

40:24
him at the gym. This is a thing. Does anyone have a weird kink? I don't think I can't really tell right yet.

40:32
Anyone, George.

40:35
You definitely need to kill an advocate.

40:37
Not mean the guy that brings up a bit

40:40
that he doesn't think that's me. Yeah, I

40:42
don't know. I'd be interesting guy. What about all the people who have kinks better in relationships that don't allow for Yeah, which is fine. It's just

40:52
as a long term relationship. I wonder how kinks fit into what do you think? What do you think the stand Did Do you think it's sort of like a long term

41:02
relationship be like, okay, I agree on that on the first of every month we'll look at you know, it will adhere to your kink. Just to give you that, no, I

41:09
think people can have their kinks suppressed. Not in a negative. Isn't it sad or you know, not necessarily. Life isn't always about succumbing to me. Yeah, you sort of need that. So

41:22
what's the appeal of 69? So that was

41:28
I don't appreciate it.

41:29
I would say that oral sex.

oral sex is better than a dependent pinch of sex. So I'm

41:39
not sure of not coming straight to what like you can long last long. You can last longer It feels like you can have two goes whereas if you just go straight to fucking, I feel like I've I've got

41:57
going on like, I'm just there's so much Right Am I focusing on Simon like sucking his stomach? Suck something else? Like it's just a lot. There's a lot happening. As you said admin it's

42:07
is it how much of it is perception of your body and you at that time versus getting too close to his asshole?

42:15
I don't care about ourselves, you know that and

42:16
so so then it's very much about Mike, how do I look from behind?

42:21
What depends which way we're going from But yeah, I just feel like I think that a lot of the time, all sex is considered like the holy grail like guy a lot of guys I know I would prefer to get a head job over actually having sex. A lot of guys I know. And they also like to think that they're the best in the world that going down and like, Oh, I'm so great. I actually love eating pussy. It's like you're actually shithouse at it. Like you really are. Most guys are really bad at it. You probably both really bad at it. Alright, great. Hurry up. And I can say that because I'm faced with both men and women. So I'm like, I'm this queen. Better. Yeah, because they actually give a fuck more than guys do.

42:57
And so where does oral sex fit with you in regards But my point

43:00
is sorry in a lot of people's opinion, I think that are 69 or in some people's view is like the ultimate because it's like, they get to be king like eating you out, which is you know, I'm so lucky at the same time they get to get a head job but like this is the best of all worlds.

43:13
So you think that giving like a guy going down on a cheek

43:20
is usually terrible. And before high status, they think that they think that they are giving you a real gift. They're like, Oh, no, you know what, I actually love doing this. I love doing it. Just lie back and you know, they're going I'm rather you not just wasting my time. In my head. I'm like shopping

43:39
for the mile. Like, I'm not a fan of it. I don't I don't

43:44
appreciate.

43:48
Like, it's not my I don't pride myself.

43:52
on someone else.

43:52
me You're lying down. And so it's like, have you waited? She says yes, but I'm what I'm saying is I think the people who put it forward is like so you were five

44:07
baby girl

44:09
that's a guy

44:10
that's a guy Why don't you positioning it there was like Yeah, I was a pussy at it.

44:15
But not any no but what I'm saying is

44:17
I don't appreciate you guys are okay

44:19
with saying it's not my thing

44:21
no guy ever says that

44:23
that's what I

44:24
mean I love a guy to be like hey you know what can you talk me through what you like absolutely buckle up so john that's what am I like, baby girl like you just you like back you just relax you know they're going

44:35
because they're thinking that this is what the girl wants. And so they lie where does that come you like it and it's just a delusion of the guy. And so

44:44
I was like man

44:46
it's also an awesome we talked about this a lot with my girlfriends. It's like if you sleep with a guy which I've done too many times in the past and acted like you were enjoying it when you're not that's us doing them a disservice.

44:57
And so do you think cuz I guess you watch all these films like American Pie are members a kid

45:02
was like yeah, Reggie beaches

45:04
y'all Wait No. Like American.

45:09
Tibbets like American Pie like there was so much talk about eating going down on someone and a half the book was that that film what was that not another teen movie but they had the book underneath the shelf in the library American pod yet yeah making American Pie but I feel like they're what I remember as a younger person I was like

45:32
you guys Google how to do it and we told him to the alphabet with your tongue in the clay.

45:37
I think I got the right hand side of the clitoris I believe is the more sensitive Georgie Karen knows their

45:54
medical like where what we this is in fact checking. what way did you Let the right side is right so

46:08
did you read this?

46:09
No, I just think like this

46:10
you know what I just mean?

46:14
The thing is is that because I guess the other thing too is all of this is so unique to the individual so there's some people who love having it like it you hear stories of it's like I only again I'm only gonna have sex with a guy comedy.

46:42
Anyway, thanks for coming to talk about

46:46
this quickly, but the pay will talk about

46:52
it.

46:53
It's it had three bottles

46:55
sorry the No Do you think like so for some people Do your girlfriend's say, I'll own like, I will only have sex with this person if that will go down on me first.

47:08
No, no, no and some girls don't even some girls find that really. It's a really vulnerable position for them to be in like a lot of females. I know think that that's really intimate. That's more intimate as we're saying. The other day, it's more intimate some some people think then then sleeping together.

47:25
And so no posts are all kissing my cat. I feel

47:28
okay with that. Uh huh.

47:31
Yeah, baby. If you don't

47:32
What the hell are you serious? You? You just if you're Yeah, I think it's really immature. I feel like Oh, wait, you just wait, you know, down there. Don't kiss me. Like, if I ever gave a guy a blowjob and then he didn't kiss me I'd be I'm like, What the hell? That's for you jobs. Okay, from my mouth. But you're telling isn't

47:52
it? Yeah. Thanks for coming on token talk about Big Brother 2020 than big brother data.

48:01
Oh, dude, I am in Big Brother.

48:06
So women today

48:10
the voice is that you actually talking to that voice that we hear on Big Brother or is that a producer?

48:16
Yeah, no it is. Um so I one thing that I remember being really perplexed by as a fan of the show was I just figured that big brother was gonna be there for us whenever we wanted him I was like, he's literally that's his job to be there whenever I want him. So I would you know, be upset or want to discuss something or want to dislike even just have some time alone and diary room and I'd go and press you have to press like a doorbell and then they let you in. So obviously intercom obviously, if the voice of Big brother doesn't happen to be in the control room at that very moment, they have to get him to come into the control room. He's there every day. But if he's having a lunch by having a ciggy whatever Leon I love you. If he's not there, they have to get him in. So sometimes you'd go then you press the button and wait for the door and mostly their doors would open immediately but Sometimes you'd walk, you'd be like, um, I'll come back later like they wouldn't let you in. Which I thought was so funny because in my head I'm like, You're at my beck and call you know like, is that not your job to be at my beck and call

49:10
remember all the different voices

49:12
There are so yeah, so there was like gametime Big Brother so there was a big brother that was like for all the main event so for like evictions nominations for any of the of the challenges and that was Leon Mari he's an amazing amazing voiceover artist.

49:25
I know that guy

49:26
Leon and Dan he's great Leon's great and I it's hard to show you I really it works well for me because I think if I heard his voice be big brother this year, that would have made me feel a little bit weird. So I'm really I'm sad because this new voice is terrible. But oh, sorry. I'm like you know what? He's great. But yeah, so him and then there was a weekend Big Brother for like, we can be brother. It was kind of in between cash. And she was a chick.

49:50
She's getting double time and half.

49:52
We can we can rise.

49:54
Yeah, I hope so. Yeah, well, yeah, she should play with the boys said they'd wake us up. Every morning and let it unfold quickly cool a lady big rubber and she would wake us up the lights come on and she'd be like, Good morning boys. Like the sun is shining, the birds are chirping. And there was like, Oh, yeah, like, talk to us talk to us because I like that and say no heard anyone like remotely sexy. Obviously we went

50:16
and you were in there. No. Thanks, Josh. That was a good question. It wasn't just the guys weren't all separate. Were they there was

50:23
a girlfriend in the outside world and she was putting on like a sexy, sultry voice did

50:27
she make

50:28
me on? I'll get a wife and Siri does it?

50:31
Yeah, exactly. And then there was a we call him. We call him

50:36
a bloke. Yeah, I do have a guy Siri.

50:38
You use the guy Siri. Yeah. What is he? He's English. Yeah.

50:42
Like a Russian Dean reminds him of James Bond. Series. She's anyway.

50:49
Yeah, that is and then there was a baby Big Brother. It was like a younger, snappier version of Big Brother that would flirt with me. I thought he would. He sounded really cute. And I would always flirt with him and he'd say things like Telly you looking really cute today and I'm like, Oh my god, stop. And then I met him at the wrap party and he's gay, sir. Classic. Mm hmm. But yeah, this new voice is just a bit creepy. So you're

51:12
gonna keep watching?

51:13
I will of course. Yeah, as I said I'm a loyalist to the show I love the format and in any way shape or form they bring it back Yeah, I'll definitely be watching

51:23
I know if I believe you

51:27
should be watching

51:29
you don't like the format though. I

51:30
didn't like this new format. Yeah,

51:32
I don't I Big brother is a hall.

51:34
Yeah, I love the show. I love the concept and despite this new sort of vision

51:40
was slightly aggressive.

51:44
Yeah, she loves the band doesn't love the new album. Well, yeah,

51:46
exactly. It's important to say that right? Because if you like if you had a if you love blink 182 and then they bring them back and they're completely different. It's like, I feel like as a loyalist you so you can, you should be able to

51:58
stay there. There's still a bunch of stuff. ranges living in a house film 24 seven living together and that's the thing that I love I don't love the new challenges every night I don't love the fact that there's an eviction every night I don't love the fact that it's not filmed live and we have zero sane because this is the thing right if if it was down to us to vicked rather than the public I would have been gone week to the show would have been absolutely awful without me obviously. So they're gonna they're gonna get rid of the annoying loud people but those people that what make the show entertaining so if

52:29
you're working they'll do it again but actually fix the format Not

52:32
that I have a feeling I heard the show as well I really do. I'm failing at why and I think we'll be back and that sucks

52:42
Yeah, it's interesting I

52:43
do in all styles I'm absolutely down for

52:44
well I that's where I get like so I guess part of it is like I should you're wanting to be like crocodile not burn bridges because it's like you want to say what opportunity. Just love

52:53
the show. I really do love the show. I was excited to hear it's coming back. I was apprehensive of the new format after seeing To episodes even more so they're just rushing it you know they're not they're not letting us learn who's people are then able to give us that you don't get evicted. Usually the new series for a weekend you get awake to establish yourself meet people relax, unwind. And so the fact that we had an eviction, you know, day day one, it was just like

53:21
he's getting bogged down in mentioning the format. All format.

53:26
Be Brian, I just feel like it. No, I just wanted to

53:30
tell them. No, I know. It's a good question. Christian. All right,

53:33
you guys. All right. wanna hug it out? Yeah,

53:34
not so fine. I need a bit of a sleep.

53:43
Thank you. Thanks for coming on. Thanks. Thanks.

53:45
It's a daily talk show. You can send us an email. Hi at the daily talk show calm. Yeah. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow for another weekend banter. Have a good one. See you guys. Bye.