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It's the daily Talk Show Episode 540 sevens waken Banta and we go now Jaime,

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three day deal in the boys

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zone in the building we're back what building are you in?

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Right now I'm in the building of Humber College and good old Toronto Canada in the automotive design room what is

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behind you? That looks almost like a mould where they hold bodies in their lockers

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Yeah, you open this and they we stores thesis models in there but right now they're all empty and they're all locked

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looking claim that God like your hair's nice and short you've got your neck I got a haircut.

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Yeah my my I actually Instagram privately and said fucking looking sharp or something like

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Yeah, he did it looking good. Yeah, you said looking sharp looking.

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Have you stopped with the doughnuts?

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Now I've transferred over to cookies classic.

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Wow. We win this further on the so if you've just started listening to our show in the last 50 episodes, hundred episodes, three day deal lived with us for four months doing his internship he's he's the man behind the logo. He's the man behind the 3d printed squeegees but he was also the man behind absolutely annihilating any piece of food within this office.

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We didn't have any lollies or anything like that but

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you know was a lonely job when he

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was post

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post my time and way and I lighted that mention him. I've just 3d deal remember when you dropped calls slow onto the ground? And yeah, you just shuffled it back into its fucking plastic it didn't actually wipe it up. I've just cleaned the statue Remember that?

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Really? Well. I mean, it's no time like the present. Right? And so you finally got around to it.

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You're studying industrial design final year. Yeah, what do you been working? I've

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been working on a lot of stuff. Two big things. One is the thesis project which I started when I was there with you guys. And then the other one was the BRP Sponsored Projects and BRP is a Canadian design company. They make can em spiders, ski doos, snowmobiles ATVs a whole bunch of stuff. So it was a design competition with

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them. What do you miss most about Melbourne?

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Everything.

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Coffee Fitzroy gardens I quite like fits word gardens.

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Yeah, everything. The Office junkies Yeah, they really come out lightly to be honest. I can't do anything really?

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Yeah, I think they're worse. I think

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it's the weather. Like you came here for the cold cold Parliament's which is kind of warm for you. I mean,

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it was shockingly warm.

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Here now What is it right now? I'm earlier to say it was minus 15.

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Ridiculous. And so have you got any more clarity on what what you're doing after this year?

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Not really. I'm kind of taking it one day at a time right now just go and going slow. I have to see how this design competition works out because it's a competition for an internship at BRP in Quebec in Canada, so if everything plays out, then there's the possibility of an internship there, which would be really cool. So

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what happens with like, French Do you have to speak French if you're going to go to Quebec?

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I'm, for myself, I wouldn't really because 99 even though it's a French company, 99% of the people in the company speak English as a primary language. It is good to be bilingual like we, I know a little bit of French but it's a very, it's very, very limited.

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I mean, you're the king of hot I saw something like I always see you pushing things that can't reveal what it is. You're saying coming soon What something was coming soon on Instagram, what is the coming soon so.

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So that's that that's the BRP project and I can't officially reveal what the design is on social media until the contest is closed. Because the contest goes on until December 20. I

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so I'm done with people telling people that they've potentially got something that they can't tell you what it is.

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It's a bit of a pain point here.

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I think it's, it's a real pain to be.

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It is.

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You write your memoir, and released it. While you're in Australia, still figuring it out. Yeah. How's the Amazon sales going? Have you actually sold a copy since you've gotten home?

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I've sold three I think actually a grind which I mean, I didn't really expect to sell any so anything's anything's cool. I got a check in the mail. Check. Cool. So yeah, that was like $23

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might take it.

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So, yeah. Oh, it went straight to beer. So

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how's it how's the drinking since getting back into college life?

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I'm down to whole bottle of wine one weekend, like two weekends ago and then I just fell right to sleep on the couch. Not a lot like, my friends and I will go out to drink and my roommate Zach and I will drink sometimes, but we won't go. We're not crazy drinkers Really? Like we're going to a party tomorrow. But uh, not a blackout kind of drunk. So I get it. Did you watch the

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fella? You're a big fan of Matt D Avella.

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How you found us? Yeah.

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Did you watch the video that we're in?

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Yes, I did, actually. And then I showed it to my mom. And I said Mom, look I worked with Tommy and Josh and now Tommy and Josh are with Matt D. Avella. Therefore, on some spiritual plane. I have been with Matthew, though,

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and your logo that you made was in the video.

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Yeah, that was another DVD was.

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Yeah, we get

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that totally blew my mind. That completely blew my mind. It was super cool.

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And for you 2019 it's been a huge year.

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Yeah. Wild. What is

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I was gonna say what are you most proud of? But then I was gonna say What do you mean? What didn't you do that you should have done? Perhaps? Yeah, I mean, they're both sort of pushing to get something other than I just wasn't but

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I was. I was 2019 2019 was the most surreal experience ever. Because, like a few days before, like just before Christmas, my friend and I went and we got coffee and we talked about we're like, oh, I wonder what, like what we're going to do in a year's time. And where are we going to be in a year's time and I said, Oh, I want to travel, I want to go to Australia. I want to at least I want to do something cool with this internship opportunity that I have. And now here I am almost a full 12 months later from that day, having lived in Australia for four months, like doing a whole whack tonne of stuff. Being able to work with you guys do stuff. Do all this logo design this website, design stuff, learn video editing, travel across the world fly to Sydney. It was like the whole the whole thing I couldn't have asked for anything more just more amazing how

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best year ever like time, like it literally is like you could go to the kit you should go to the cafe with you made again. Yeah, and have the same conversations and just sort of dive into that to the year because I don't like when you're flying and you apply more things. To live you lose that perspective of all the sheet you've done

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what does it do to thinking around dreaming big?

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Oh, it's totally possible like like when I was having that conversation I never expected to make it to Australia or even to connect with you guys like even though the time when I sent that first email it was like this like super blue sky thinking and anything's anything's possible, but it seems kind of so far away. Just because of like logistics and whatnot. Do

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you think it feels like you thought it would just even doing anything like I we walking walking through the park last week, where we spoke to Matt D Avella before we did that trip to see him and I was like, Fuck, man. It literally feels like that. Like the way you process Tom. More experiences is like, I remember the experience in the park talking about so fondly so vividly that now it only feels like a thought that happened a moment ago also feels

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like la didn't happen

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exactly next minute.

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So is there a bit of a head fuck with that? And how do you know how much you've actually changed?

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I see that's totally that's, it's it's hard to quantify, like thinking about how much I've changed since the beginning of the year since before I went to Australia since I came home and to where I am now. Like it's hard to quantify but I can I notice a change and I noticed a difference. Like there's there's been a total perspective shift in general, just in terms of what I want to do and then how I treat the stuff that I do on a daily basis. Like what's super important and what I can just get done and push out of the way to focus on what I really enjoy.

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How does that change ships?

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Oh, that's see that It's tricky, because, like for me to go to Australia to leave everybody that I knew for four months, which was kind of hard. But coming back, coming back was a little weird, because I felt like I had just been off on this four month vacation and everyone else had kind of been just doing the same old thing. So like coming back and meeting family and friends and everything was kind of weird. Because I felt for some reason, I felt like they had been missing out on this whole thing. Not necessarily just Australia, but this whole dream big and go and chase your dreams and do what you want kind of a thing. But like the more like my roommate and I have been talking about we want to do a trip around the UK, like go, England, Ireland and then Scotland and just go all the way up and then fly back over and do the east coast of Canada and then drive right back in to Toronto. And it's like we talked about that now, right? And I talked about that, based off the experience that I had with you guys and making that happen, then you start to think about is like, Yeah, well, you could do something like that realistically, if you put your mind to it and you get your shit in order. As long as you have the idea and you can follow through with it, then totally policy,

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the crazy thing is like everybody in the world has a version of this in their head. And so it's it makes you realise how individualistic we most of us are in terms of like, we just, we processing through our own lane, we may have our own perspective. Exactly. And so yeah, it's it's almost like humbling, but like when you think about fact, when you show overwhelmed with your own thing, and you and you your successes that you don't have or any of that stuff you like, she's everywhere else like you're doing it deals, you know, everybody You walk past is thinking at some level about where would I get to where should I be wherever, you know? Maybe I could do this maybe it's it's fucking complex Dude,

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what's been the biggest change in regards to you? Do you think?

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Again, like another tough question. But like the biggest I don't know, like the biggest maybe the biggest change I've noticed is just the outlook that I have now. Because having the whole Australia experience work out and come to fruition and have all these amazing people that I met have that actually happen and I was able to experience that. It's kind of made me realise that or at least reinforce the idea that I don't have to get stuck into this. eight to five nine to five job lifestyle and

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what did you die? You die to die. Do you think

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Like that, that shift in mindset.

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I like to treat myself now more as my own boss as opposed to just another student in a school. Like, I've got, I've got a routine based around a schedule that I have to follow for school because I can't just not show up to class and expect everything to be fine.

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He can go to school I didn't go

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through. Yeah, this is true. I don't have the degree yet, but that's another five months but it's like if there's a class that I don't feel is serving me then I'm better off going and doing something that does surfing. Like for the for the BRP project we worked on. There's something like 350 odd hours of work that had to go into that at least just in terms of development, work and sketching and designing and Like I intentionally skipped classes and didn't go to those classes, because this project required that time and I wanted to put my time there. So I definitely think that that whole shift of breaking out of the nine to five, mindset kind of a thing made me really focus on prioritisation of tasks, and ideas and stuff. And also kind of to just go with it. Because you never really know what's going to happen or like what's going to happen with a project? Like it can just go in a totally different direction than what you expected. What about and giving myself skills?

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Yeah, skills in regards like what did what did you take from being a big media company? Was there anything worth like? Oh, this is actually because I guess if you think about all the people who were doing their internships you're in, in an industrial design class. You've come to a production company that's got a podcast, it's a bit different. Did you actually did you actually get any skills you learned?

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other other than working in Premiere Pro that aside? No workflow management. Yeah. workflow management, seeing how you guys deal with whether it's the air table or the Asana or even slack like internal business communication was a huge thing. Number one, number two is how you n like yourself, Josh and you Tommy interact with each other on like, a business partner business partner relationship, as well as how Mason fits in with everything there to like, even though he's like 10 years younger than you guys. It feels like you guys are all It feels like everything's on the same field. Like everyone has an equal voice and learning that kind of dynamic and learning to Integrate myself into that kind of a dynamic is good. So that I guess that kind of supports the whole teamwork aspect of it. And I've always I know I've always tried to do well with teamwork, because it can be kind of tricky, especially when you're put in a group with a bunch of other people that you don't know, or may not work well with learning to communicate well, and articulate Well, in a team environment is important. But also just like the legitimate hard core organisation skills, whether it's like folder structure, laying stuff out, and ensuring that if you're, if I'm handing stuff off to somebody else, like if I do this thing and I hand it off to you, Josh, you should know, you should be able to know what you need to do, because I've made it clean and simple. And however, I've laid out this thing that I'm giving over to you, but also just in general, from my verbal communication or digital community.

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A lot of the small business aspects

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I took away which is more what I wanted out of an industrial design internship as opposed to

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hard industrial design experience itself.

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And I definitely think that working with you guys and like even working with Mason definitely got that small business internal, like three people how to four people work together and be able to produce all this stuff and do it effectively. was big learning for sure.

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That makes sense. The we're getting close to Christmas. How are you spending Chris? Yes.

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Right now I plan to spend Christmas mildly intoxicated on alcohol and at home with my family.

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Do you guys do eggnog or is that American?

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Uh, no, we do. We have eggnog here, but I I'm not personally a big fan of it. It's kind of gross actually mixing.

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It's disgusting milky with alcohol and it's

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thick. It's gross. It's like he kept

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calling that that. And so,

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podcasting, like listening to podcasts, have you? I remember you saying that listening to the daily talk show was a type of PTSD. It was a bit it was a bit weird at first, and you're listening to podcasts or do you find that you can't do

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it? You can still listen to the show you can.

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Now I do still listen to the show. Right now daily talk shows the only podcasts that I listened to

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quality. Yeah,

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you got mainly because like when I'm working five to do stuff on a on a screen like I'm doing stuff and something in Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator. I find that I can't. anymore anyways, I can't listen to someone talking or even music sometimes because I have just have to focus entirely on what's in front of me. I don't know why it's just something that happened but a non daily talk show. Deal takes photos. I listened to his podcast. Yeah, right. It's hilarious. And I had listened to the one with Peter McKinnon and Maddie, but they did like four or five episodes and then nothing. I saw them

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died.

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Yeah, it's like they'd known recently maybe like a week ago. Yeah. Big, big gaps. I mean, yeah. trubiz bunch of youtubers going through transitions at the moment in regards to like, the whole burnout thing, dude, it's

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it's super hard. I mean,

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Jordan Belfort had a podcast the guy from Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah, apparently he has a podcast. Yeah,

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it like he goes so hard with the silence. Dad's

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around.

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I mean, he's the wolf. They're like erectile dysfunction. Yeah, it's funny. He's taking what he can get. And he's probably getting a bunch of weed bonds and paying lots of money. The one with Grant Cardone and him. They're just fucking butting heads. really entertaining. You should watch

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that one. Yeah. Do you have any plans? Have you spoke about potentially having your own podcast? Is that still on the cards?

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Oh, still in the cards for sure. Just when, as a matter of, it's a matter of whether at this point, cuz I gotta finish I have to finish school and finish my thesis and then sort out. I'm going to pay off my student debt. Yeah, it's after that. Yeah. After that.

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Yeah. It makes a lot of sense. The internally we're going talking about this idea of doing a catch up show on Sundays. I don't know if you've heard that as talking about that yet. The idea of doing six days a week. And then on the Sunday it being the best of Do you have any felt like that?

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Personally I like that I just wouldn't make it too wishy washy or two. glorifying of unless it's like a funny stitch up like you eating that fake waffle thing.

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That was good. What do you say? actually get the best bits.

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So yeah, what is that? Yeah, well yeah get get the CO producing it. What would it look like?

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Oh see that's tough.

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How long should it go for? How would you pick what bids to put on there? Would we do an intro?

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I would definitely do an intro because unless people know specifically this Sunday's catch up day. They may end up just stumbling upon it and it's like, oh, this is kind of wack. Yeah. Like I've heard I've heard this stuff before. I would treat a similar to a normal show. Like a standard daily talk show. Show, but not, but it needs to be different in some way, whether that's graphically or even visually. Yeah, like change it up a bit, but you don't want to change it up too much right? Because then it just doesn't become consistent with everything else.

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Do you think that you would be able to maintain that brand image? Yeah. Would you listen to a catch up like what what type of person do you think would listen to a catch up show?

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dedicated fans, that's for sure.

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Like people, people listen to the daily talk show every day, on their way to work or on their way from work. Or at the gym. Would, I'm sure would listen to I can't speak for them, but I'm sure they would. Do you think I would listen, I personally I would. Listen.

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Do you reckon like how am I was besides you listening to awake of the daily talk show? Do you think

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this past week was zero because I barely slept. I cannot sit Typically like, I'll, I'll get all five, or I'll get five and then on the weekend, I'll catch up. Yes, sell it and do like finish off the week.

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smashing at you. I have so much respect for your ability to come into this environment, give it your own. And then you've done such a good job of going back. And just being so focused to the thesis stuff. Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

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It's it's been tricky, and I appreciate it. But it's it's been tricky because I've wanted to put my like 110% into the thesis, and 110% into the BRP design competition. But it's like at the end of the day, one of them will ultimately take priority, otherwise, I'm just going to burn out. So it ended up like the BRP design competition got more effort put into it, because at the end of the day, I personally think there's more payoff for it. Like my thesis one barely get me a job.

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Yeah, what would be a great way? Like, what does that look like?

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It's four to six months working in Quebec at the BRP design and innovation studio, developing a full scale working model of the design that I came up with during the competition. So and then you're working with the lead designers and the VPS and everybody figuring shit out like ergonomics designs, how is your body protected in the winter during this experience? How does that translate to a summer experience? Because they're, they're like the biggest motor sport dealer. In Canada. There's a parts of the world to

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just love. I mean, it's annoying and grind at the same time. It's like we don't know what action will result in some huge shifts because not every action rapes a reward of a The thing or the success that you had, but you can't fucking out do stuff because otherwise you just sit at home smoking bongs.

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Yeah, exactly. Mr. 97 pre ordered a Tesla cyber truck for the daily talk show he learned

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well from hyper and you

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feel like you could go either way in regards to the cyber truck What's your thoughts? Um, you know, I can

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see the way that it is the way that it is now. Absolutely not. Why.

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From an aesthetic standpoint, it's fucking ugly. From

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the stats, the stats are great.

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However, like Tesla loves to boast stats, right? They love it. Elon Musk is all about boasting stats. However, if we think about this practically, if you if you watch any of the videos that they have of this cyber truck design aside other than the glass failing, that's a whole other thing. The a TV that they have is sick

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We add these purchase purchasable knows this and add on okay.

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Yeah, it's an add on, but that design looks amazing. Cyber trick itself isn't know

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getting getting driving it then.

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No, but watching the cyber truck pull the pickup truck up the hill. People are like, oh, wow, it has so much so much force. Zach. This is can you come over here and give me some give me some automotive facts. Cyber truck please, guys coming in. This is my roommate, Zach. I'm gonna go

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Okay, good. I Zach, Zach. Hey, how's it going? Good. How are you? I'm good. Thanks. So the cyber truck give us some some facts.

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So they pulled it up the hill. But the Ford pickup truck was in two wheel drive mode and it was empty. So super light and easy to pull up the hill.

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You read that on Reddit? Oh?

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Well no you can see it in the video.

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So you're not gonna but you you're not into the cyber track you're not so.

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No I'm not crazy about it. Okay, what is it?

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Oh god, what is this?

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Or the it's a rap duo called run the jewels. Oh yeah.

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What was your Spotify wrap up like? I don't have Spotify so what do you think?

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Apple Music Really?

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Is that common in Canada people using Apple Music

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oh I feel like guys I know more people is Spotify?

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Yeah What

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guy who hates a lawn mask cyber track also uses iTunes

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Apple Music like what is the what was the appeal?

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Oh I like the I mean the price for students isn't done okay don't get ads. And visually I like yeah,

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okay, looks nice. Yeah. Know that they do listen to podcasts? Yeah, yeah. Do you use Apple podcasts? Or do you use a different app?

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Yeah, I've been using that more recently.

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You can ask him Josh easier. Listen, listen to.

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I have. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thanks, Zach. Well, it's hard because we've actually pre ordered the cyber track. So that's a real Obama. We're in the hall here. We'll see what we can do. But maybe you can tell us in your Ford pickup truck. Maybe that could be

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Thanks. Thanks. Alright,

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YouTubers, and we go

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3d. Do I like seeing your face?

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15 minutes of fame. Thank you. I like

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I like that. I like that. He's wearing the daily talk show. What are you wearing it a lot. Getting good. Good man aware?

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Yeah, I do. So I okay. Here's the story. So I wore at once right and I wore the hat with it. And then some guy like the guy. I had done it. Did the presentation talk about to the class I'm talking about my experience my internship experience. And then this guy found me in the hall like the day after. And he's like, it's so cool that you have a hoodie. And a hat with the place that you did your internship. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I didn't know what to say. I got thought I thought it would be obvious. It was it was just strange. It was a strange encounter. So funny. I didn't know how to react to it. He kind of just caught me off guard. Have you I was walking to class. Have you got

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stickers the daily talk show stickers, or do we need to hook you up?

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You need to hook me up because I'm all I gave them away to everybody

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will send you some awesome since.

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So you're doing well deal. And we're excited to to catch up again soon as well. My

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Yeah. Oh, here's the question. What are the odds of me getting the daily talk show t shirt? Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, we haven't. We haven't organised them yet,

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but maybe the fan printed design. So you're welcome again. You probably have the original artwork that you have on the original about this bill.

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sent us an email. And it was a point of a video chat about podcasting, whatever. Okay, it will be on the podcast. And so we recorded the episode. And afterwards, like at the end of it, I was like, Yeah, thanks for having us on, sort of wrapped it up. And then he sent an email to Mr. 97. I read the email wrong. He just wanted to have a video call. He didn't actually, it wasn't for the podcast. And so we did a whole hour chat with him. And he was all

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I knew was that we were doing a podcast as far as like it's, it's a different different type of conversation,

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different energy.

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You can find this at the daily

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NASA soccer psychopath.

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It was great chatting. We should get you on the podcast, though.

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For sure it was

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awesome. I do thanks so much for for coming on tonight. It's jokes are high fidelity talks about common CML dress on Instagram if you type in what does it deal Dylan underscore torvill said it what's Yep,

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