#207 – The Halloween Scheme/
- October 31, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Wednesday October 31 (Ep 207) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
On this episode of The Daily Talk Show Tommy runs us through the Halloween scheme he had going as an 8 year old, we get nostalgic about our family homes we grew up in, what to do when you bump in to someone you know at a hospital and why the hell radio personalities are still promoting the Tim Tam slam on social media.
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conversation, sometimes worth recording with Josh Janssen and Tommy
Show Episode 207. I want to dedicate this
episode to a woman named Joan. We don't do dedications per episode, if you've just listened to for the
first time, who's Joan
now Jones, someone who I loved but I also
know you love to you. You were romantically.
She was an old woman. And so we can today's Halloween. And I'm bringing at Halloween storey.
Okay, this is john.
This is like the Nickelodeon. He didn't have cable TV you didn't have
it wasn't wasn't allowed
up. We got the free one. They did a free three month thing. And I got that. But mom and dad didn't want us to have cable TV. And yeah, it's weird because it's like, we probably could have afforded it. I mean, they sent us to private school. So there's probably where all the money's going. My parents will be quite well often
be able to have all the channels if you didn't get a private school.
Yeah, but it did bring me down because it was the thing like I saw the national and families had and we were one of those affluent families we were doing. We were doing right. But we were doing the the walk in fridge to have
cocoa puffs. We have taco Yeah, there
was one thing about our house hold and it was that food was always there. We always had a great quality food
Yeah. healthy. Okay, which is I think it's helped.
We couldn't have roll ups when we were getting our own. Yeah, I don't think we didn't frequent those in the cabin. Frequent purchasing. What was the when you got home from school? What would you wait?
I'm a big toast, man. I love it still. More than brand? Yeah. Well, yeah. It was always toast. I was.
It was a bit of an existential crisis. Just it's a bit like more than Britt like you do like toasted bread more than bread. Yeah,
yeah. That's what I was trying to work out. 100% I like toast. But then it depends. Because if you get a really nice sourdough life that's fresh, and you can put some butter on it. Castle linger. That's a nice life too. So So yeah, I would test it if I had the option and just put a bit of peanut butter on it.
batter and then peanut butter. Okay,
yeah, I really put butter on things your soccer Yeah, and Brady thinks that and we went Nutella
household and we didn't have that much we were nice quick. My lower family we had the odd occasion we had coco pops, like sustain and a few other cereal
you give to an old person when they Natick tape they're like it's a I'm sure my power was on sustain before he died. It's not cool to start there. Yeah,
that was sausages. It's all bullshit it's all what is this chocolate flavoured milk essentially
what it digestives about is that actually helping digestion
well done well
so funny. A digestive we have a joke in our family because that's one biscuit that my parents still buy and we had every good biscuit they were very underrated biscuit they just like a wheat
stuff like a wheat sweet wait with a chocolate on the top. It's like the good cuz I go a bit soggy when you deepen them into today. They're very nice
and they're expensive. So you you are living on the edge by and sometimes you can get I don't see them as this inexpensive biscuit just like it not knowing the prices I couldn't tell you the cost of a bit. Do you reckon Tim Tams cost a whole packet? I know because I was $6 but right
now yeah. Three 349 on average, which is not on special but you can get packets Tim Tams for two bucks these days.
I've been finding interesting I Rn the radio network have obviously done a deal with Tim Tim
yet. No. I think everyone's done a deal with Tim Tams.
Have you seen choosy?
Willam Woody. They're all doing the same thing which is he's the team Tamsin
slimy but one in fact might I knew that when I was too But isn't it
a new thing bro that's interesting that I wonder about brands like Tim Tam thinking Did I really need to communicate it
it's interesting because i think i think no I think shoes he has just gone well we need to do something for the station because the stations making money through their been given expend dollars and he's a talent of that
because I say I've seen a whole bunch of influences but they're all doing getting paid for that like William moody who drive show here and they drive Australia they I've heard a raid where it's the same raid that I've also heard like a voice over artist do interest which is interesting because you have these guys who are personality their own personalities but they like there's a specific voice to the raid which is enjoy Tim Tam slam by both bits off, slip it up. And you know,
maybe we maybe we thinking that the the thing that everyone should know maybe they don't I don't know. Maybe it's having cutthroat but it is lazy on the behalf of half of these people do that's no memory that that's what it's seeming like it's not
crazy maybe that's the direction which is fucking weird. It's I would I would much prefer to willingly do something interesting. But then maybe they haven't cut through because we're talking like it's been it's happened in enough areas Yeah. That we're actually thinking about so
I love marketing because it's it does play into the just the psyche of people how no colour coming through my phone not gonna answer that. We're talking Tim Tams here. Could be Tim Tam. Could be Yeah, so I love I love sort of diving in because because then so I saw will I am doing a an ad for Specsavers and I saw I think was for rail Williams was on a billboard. And I was like, I thought I had a conversation with Damien. I was like, This is bullshit. He really needed the money for that. Well, this is that what he's
doing. This is what's interesting when you go overseas and go to Asian countries and you see all of these celebrities who have sold out to these average brand and it's so off brand for them. But obviously they've been handed a check and like I said none of my mates are going to say it so just Yeah, exactly. That's right.
I had that same discussion. So we went through all of those coming up with like, potentials of wise is accepted. But then I was like that's it this is the marketing thing because I think it's like maybe they thought let's get someone who will stop people in their tracks to go why and then who's the brand associated with Mr. 97? He's not here today. called in sick night in somewhere else but Mr. 97 our main man Mason fuck I have to
nickname Stop fucking just do we just committed Tam it and just be consistent with the brand.
Mr. 9797 97 he's mom works for a company. Specsavers and she said she was she was on a conference call with Will I am.
How cool is that? That is cool. Will I am his
rap singer. You know what? When I was like I paid like I paid. Who else is in the Black Eyed Peas? Fergie she was I don't think she's around anymore. I don't know if they are around it. Yeah, true. Who else is in the black? I don't know. Exactly. But you I know the face so when I was at La x coming home from our marriage and adventure I'm walking along and just like looking at this dude, as I know you. I didn't say it but I looked at him. He was tiny compared to me. As like He kind of looks like will I am I was like he's the other guy Black Eyed Peas that no one knows his name. But they know he's in black eye peas. So I was at the airport and would you say nothing? I was just like, let's get started. Anyway, bringing it back to john
before you mentioned Jonathan just one of the site I actually feel I have a job that I had years and years ago went before Virgin Australia was Virgin Australia. They'll called the Australia Yeah, I'll doing their big push to Melbourne to LA or Sydney to LA. I was doing a bunch of work for them. But remember I did something when I think that was still virgin blue as well. And they did a black eyed peas. mile high karaoke where TJ just currently getting a drink of fizzy water are normal. Now the fizzes
gone. I've Rachel.
Yeah, they did like this mile hi karaoke thing. And I remember I was hired by the Australia to do this was actually through an agency. And it was one of those annoying cases where they didn't have any access, like special access. So I was actually running around like the pepper Razzi trying to get shots of the bike I just remember being like this is this is why that was the despise of working with middlemen started because it's like that within annoyed that I didn't get some sort of exclusive shots. I'm like, why didn't have it? I had the same access as everyone else. Fucking chasing Black Eyed Peas trying to get through security at the domestic terminal with a camera to them get shots.
what point did you realise you didn't have
said you asked for access? Yeah, well, no. So they had they had a few. It's one of those cases where the agency was just leveraging an opportunity now set up how you can, you can do this, but they also virgin had a photographer, photographer and media as well. So there were probably thinking this was, you know, eight years ago, or whatever. So what they'll probably doing maybe nine years ago, they were focused on mainstream media, but they weren't thinking about their own content. Whereas now i'm sure virgin would be giving their content producers really good access, or if this was still in the day where it's like that would much prefer the paps who were going to put those photos in the paper to get the content. So Joan,
Joan, dedicate this episode to her. She was a woman who very old and she lived about eight houses down from mine. In the suburb of Brighton
you had a good straight there's been a few so many of the contacts that you have all the leads combined lady based on this one straight.
So it was great straight Jules land now lives on that strange lives in an old. He lives in a house that he's renovated. That was where we used to hang out as a kid, the house that I lived in, I went and dropped off and oh, bike fishing t shirt. Because crazy storey so I look at the next video on my YouTube channel will make sense. But essentially, I made these t shirts sold them for charity, and someone who ordered them
had your address all to try.
Well that was what the address was. So I went there to hand deliver it turned out it was actually just the owners of the house. These are the people that bought it off us. It was the best man who is Australian that lives in Singapore and just stays when he comes to Australia in their place. So he doesn't even live there. It's not even his house. It's his mates house. And so we got this tour of the newly renovated house that was like they've turned into exactly what I wanted two storeys swimming pool today have the with a the owners that bought it off your pen. Yeah, so Oh, I remember Joe and team like, and I remember meeting them at one point. And so that was super lovely their kids and now you know gronk 13 or it's all getting it is who it is funny the childhood when you sold when you sell your childhood home.
Brie and I when we came back to Melbourne after a trip got super nostalgic and drove past our old home where Brie and I sort of started that was where we sort of started dating so many memories there. And thinking about like how much money would I need to make to then just buy back the family home?
I've thought about if I went Tesla I'm buying that family home. Now that three and a half million dollars, 3 million bucks. So I needed when fair bit to actually do
I want it. I mean, we were out in the burbs in this field south. But I still there is something really I'm a plays into the nostalgia. Yeah, but then I feel like it would almost trigger me to have kids. Yeah, like if I had, maybe I don't know what it would be. But like if you have that house? Yeah, it'd be it'd be interesting. There's people who like have the same family home for generations in general, I was thinking,
I don't know how common it's going to be for like, think about how expensive houses to buy my family home. 3 million bucks or whatever it is, but
would it be just staying the family type of thing.
So I think that Yeah, but if you're
gonna be able to buy houses is if they get a foot up from that
there is a generation of families. And I think my parents were a part of it, where they bought the house for $60,000. Back, you know, 2035 35 years ago. And so I even know, like a bunch of my friends, parents that did it. They asset rich, they're not cash rich, their asset is the two now $2 million house that they have to sell when they get order to fund a retirement of things. So I can honestly say that even in the family, because they're not if you're the house that you live in, fully paid off investment property that he's almost paid off, because if you sell that, then you still have your asset, the leverage gets so big. So for us, our families now like, I mean, I will push hard and probably buy a house at some point in our life. But then we're paying that off. And so hopefully, like, you know, mortgage have a life of mortgages like 30 years, if you haven't paid it off by the time, you know, you need to make a lot of money to keep it
somewhere to live it but then you still need guess that's why superannuation is important, because that's what you end up. Yeah. Sorry about de railing again, john. JOHN, St.
JOHN. So john was almost like a grandma to me. And she like I remember in grade four. So we lived across the road from my primary school and Jones house was across the road from my grade for portable where the classroom was so I could see your house
public school, primary school, that was a public school public product. So yeah,
it's great school. And so there was like a bring your Nan or bring your grandma to school day. And my my mom's mom, she passed away. When I was probably 12. or something, maybe no, but younger. She passed away she had dementia. And my grandfather, my mom's dad passed away on Christmas Eve, like Well, before I was born, very sad. And my dad's dad was lived to 100 and Joan, which was actually my other Grandma, my real grandma's name. She passed away when I was young as well. And so I didn't have a grandma. And so on this grandma day, I asked Joan who was not my official Grandma, but she was the woman who lived down the street who I was great friends with. I used to pop over to her place quite a bit to come so I remember her being my standing granny and she would come over She's sweet old lady. Super cute. literally can't remember her face I just she was that classic old old style woman who will kind of like they're almost like dresses or like Nike looking thing was she like I know Yeah. And like those shoes that you'd see like your grandma would wear their I wonder like nowadays is Granny Granny isn't your any going away if I can can yeah yeahs. Well, I think that
I just remember my grandma died when I was pretty good. My mom is one of 11 kids. Mom's the youngest, so my grandma was already old, but when I was born, nothing you that having 11 kids with ag by the time we've done that be like mom being kids. I mean, if she's anything like me as a kid, it would have been interesting, but the No, I just remember Gran had that sort of I just remember the 1990 type stuff and also whiskers she had some Yeah, I can smell good.
There's a smell to all people. Yeah, I've listened to a podcast recently and it was about the smell of old people and now trying to and they've been full research into there's a smell that's emitted by people of and I know people live in all the rage. I won't go into it but it was super fucking
fascinates the smell of decay is
like I think the one while your theories like musky smell of a house, and and then there was like, Oh, do all the people tend to use mask? Those
those balls in the in the around the clothes, that style. The mothball? Yeah, and so there's like, but no, no, there's actually I can't remember what it was. But there was it was, there's actually a scent of an older person. Anyway, john had all that in her house was like well, together like we should
shake. Not a very interesting that as a young kid,
but I don't know she had this guy who was I didn't know there was a really interesting storey because there was a guy that would help her and it was a young bloke who was a Hari Krishna that would come in and help and he's super lovely. And I used to see him around. I actually saw him probably a couple of months ago at the supermarket. I didn't engage. I was a bit nervous. But now I'm just having
Josh I wouldn't say went to the funeral. Now she
she passed away years later because she would have been that light at 80s when I was it was going over there. So I used to say that here's the storey. So I would go over there quite often for biscuits and
what sort of biscuits that she had, you know, those
those ones? They're sort of like two levels and there's a red button the middle frame so it's like a raid Atlassian
betta is a Monte Carlo.
Yeah, my master My name is Monte Carlo's. I remember getting stuck into
the cookie jar, you break it, you would pull it apart. So yeah, and then you could scrape it with your teeth you're a child, but you were
a child would get it off with my taste and then not really care about the biscuit bit and that's still in
the process in which you got it. And so
yeah, it was so great. She had this garden that was just ice this explored it was like overgrown, but in a really cool way. And old hills holy state was so cool. Anyway, I would go over there a couple of times a week just cruising by myself do
would you know if your parents and her had some sort of conversation around that? Are you okay if Tommy just sort of comes around
your house Mom, this is mom. I know you're probably listening. Text me and let me know.
Because what was I wonder what the deal like surely now that I look back at the time like I did, there would probably be some form of conversation that happens where it's like are you okay if Tommy comes around?
It has to have been at least once to go You
don't mind or and they probably your parents probably encouraged you to write to say it Tommy I wonder what joins up to make it go go there you fucking annoying
now thinking John's is a safe place and he has cookies. So I took advantage of john a bit. This is where the storey goes. Okay. Today's Halloween. And what why did you say Halloween? stuffed up the pronunciation? Today's Halloween? Yeah, it's the 31st of October. And if anything in 2018 Halloween has become bigger than ever in Australia Let's kiss
JC for actually found out from Mr. 97 yet wasn't a thing at his school. He's 18 now and he didn't go to like an all boys school or anything. Yeah. And then Amy called me and talked to me about the kiss Tracy stuff which is
well there was set we had a really interesting conversation about it can almost take a whole episode. But there was things like that we didn't think of if you're going to like a very religious school and you want to save any of these cases for a husband that you marry down the track. Like that's these are the considerations that she was thinking about back then. And so
yeah, it was great Sammy Kisses.
Kisses well so Halloween I used to go trick or trading back in the day
even like how when was the first manager
young super young. I just the thought of going and knocking getting something in return for free like right up your alley and throwing eggs it happens like that that thought of that
I'm sorry I'm surprised you didn't end up doing this game the electrical schemes of knocking on doors that's how much it is. Yeah, the whatsit when you knock knock knock knock knock. I did a big knocking back in the day so we had this giant come into
so today's the 31st of October which is how Halloween every single year at this date. But I would trade John's house at some time of the year could be June could be January decides Halloween. And I know that she this is the thing I never like it You're young kid so close. What is it? I thought I had I thought by knocking on her door saying tricky trade. she'd bring out the thing of lollies and dish him up because I thought this
around I thought
that she was just Alden probably didn't think
so you just not going to church right? Would you at least get dressed up?
Not Definitely not. But I'd give it some break between the times that are tricky trader house. And so they'll probably fair enough a part where this is the logic to me. This is the silly logic of a child. She's not gonna die. There's no Halloween. She's out. She if I besides Halloween, she'll think it's Halloween. This is a dumb little child. The boy is Oh 789 like super, super young. 2120
and innocent. So but she was swayed enough to
Oh yeah. Okay, good. Would you like a biscuit? Go back and get us some little traits. And I got my made into this game. He used to come along with me and get it. So I took people to to a house. It's so funny. But rip john
to When did she die?
Ah, I was still in primary school. So I wouldn't have it would have been before I was
12. Do you remember the first few enrol you went to as a kid?
Yeah, yeah, I went to a friend heaps of footnotes. Remember? One of my mom's Auntie's. Remember my godmother? Yeah, they were very like some of them were like, to be honest, I just get into the like, I'd be stuck into the food was so detached as a child, you know, what's really going on here? Like, you know that that death has happened? And they weren't like, yeah, they were. It's a funny thing. I remember I have very vivid memory of me, going over to my grandma Jones house, where she was dead in the bed. And she'd been talked in. My cousin had discovered her going over there. And I remember so clearly walking up and getting her asthma pump and starting to just spray it. I just remember to put that down.
And you reckon that was a coping mechanism? Maybe? I mean, I probably not even identifying. It's hard when you're older. When you're when you get off, then you start having more impact. And then I struggle with saying hello to people. It just normally we had a whole we had Mark Ferguson who's been on the podcast cycling my just transitioned away from cycling Maven, by the way, guys, but our hellos and goodbyes had to be a conversation of me talking about the fact that I'm not very good with sort of the handshake hug things. I just go for a full blown hug.
Yeah, just hug it out. I mean, death can send people weird.
I didn't know when my Nana died. And she had was over eight priests at the front of the funeral because she was really in the sort of Catholic Church and stuff. And I didn't know when I saw the priest. If I was allowed to shake his hand or if I had to fucking bow. What did you do? I just fact it was awkward. Hello. Cool outfit. Yeah. Cool. Oh, yeah. Nice costume triggers, right? Halloween. Nice. Yeah, no. funerals. I mean, I've breeze always picked up on the fact that when I say things like I'm not, I'm not a funeral person or a funeral person. Exactly. And even hospital. I just the it's actually it's giving me anxiety right now. Thinking about that. People are going to die. Yeah. And the fucked up thing is it's not even. I'm not even thinking about them being gone. Yeah. I'm thinking about the fact that I've got to go to their funeral, which is a real I don't know if that's psychopathic.
No, it's a bit
your phone is going off is the Barefoot investors calling me I really
yeah, that's why she that were calling me on a private I'm not sure I just answered that. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Hi, Liz. How are you? Scott how my
no, that's all right. Mike, can I give you a buzz back just recording a podcast?
Five minutes or
five minutes? I'll be done and I'll and I'll buys you back on loses nama. Say, buddy. Yeah. Is it funny, the unknown number, pulling it like getting off the unknown? Number one? Is that what
yesterday, they called twice on an unknown number. And then the actual court turned off call turned back on the cola function. It's good
to have through that you show that when they actually show who it is. You're fine. Yeah. But no, the funeral hospital
so and they asked you if what would you do in this case? You are at a hospital, you're there to actually do some filming. And you just in the lobby in the sort of foyer waiting. And then you see a guy that you went to high school with? And you were you were quite good friends, like, quite Xiaomi with you in high school, but haven't seen them for a while? Do you say hi? Or do you just leave it? And if you leave it Why?
That's a good question. Yeah, I think I like my my default is to avoid just because if you're at a hospitals are riding by the way, yeah, it is raining. I think that the for them as well. Because if they're in a hospital Do you want that to be the moment where someone says How? Yeah, like, I've got cancer?
Yeah. Is that parking spot on? I didn't engage. I saw I did I looked at looked over enough to potentially lock eyes. So it's like, I don't seem to be the person ignoring. Yeah, but I didn't go out of my way, which I normally do, to say something to somebody to say how I how I, because I was thinking my initial thought was, oh, there's that person, I should say. And then I was like, mental hospital? Yeah. Well, I don't want to ask them why they're at the hospital, because that's probably a bit inappropriate. So I left it,
we actually had a break, you had a scenario where one of our friends or one of my friends who Bry had met before, who is sort of in the public, I was at a hospital and Bry was at the hospital to and bumped In, she was going to visit a friend who had just given birth, okay. And Bry sees my maid and says, Oh, hey, john, what's going on? Why are you here? And then it was like this really we interact awkward interaction. And then obviously, like, a daylight comes on. I had a had a baby or whatever. And then Bry was until, like, after the moment, connected all the dots and was like, of course, it was like he was in he was stressed it I spoke to him afterwards. He said, I just been in there all all night. And I was going to get pancakes. And so the so I think the the the not going up and asking like yeah,
engaging. Well, I bumped into a woman that I knew when Bodie had had just been born and always in good spirits and
late Yeah, we just had the baby like it's amazing thing is that you're like she's probably not like the top of your list. Man this brings up to know like she's like low on the list of when you should find out I would never text I should say photo, she's hacked the system. She's hacked the system, which is something that I've done multiple times with you and a few other matters where I've been involved in the water breaking you on the fight. I said, Josh,
I have to go Amy's waters have just broken
I mean being involved is probably overstating I wasn't really involved. I was I was around when that happened. Yeah. off it just I feel like that. I was watching the block the final episode at the block yet we had Bianca Chatfield on the show earlier in the year. And so there was a couple on there who just who announced on the show to Scotty that sounds like we got some exciting news and like Yeah, well, we're expecting and like we brought out a cake and it was a gender reveal cake. And so on air, they're cutting into the cake. But their reaction was if they were finding out for the first moment so it's the couple and Scott cam doing a gender reveal But not only that, then this is the I've really watched TV and I saw this I was just fucking BlackBerry's paused it and she said this is why I can't watch TV with you just fucking enjoy it because I'm just like no no they're not and what happened what they you think they already knew the
no, I didn't I think I did but I think they kept it as I call let's do it as a surprise with Scott Scott cam which was it as you do but the worst bit was they then cut to this was the auction day and the real it the the real estate agent is out there going Hey guys, before we start we've got some really exciting news just from the back from Sandra and john. They actually expecting a little baby boy and the lady screams echo.
Oh my god, I knew it.
It was the chicks mom.
First time from
the fucking real estate agent
I couldn't I actually couldn't fucking believe God couldn't think of anyone else and I would want less to announce as having a baby. The fucking real estate I yeah. Be the person I'm buying my car from the deli talk show everyone. Halloween? Are you going to be tricky? Are you going to be doing a trigger trading one with birdie. You're going to have shit that people that you give out. Now we're in an apartment block. I don't think kids are
brave enough to knock on our
we're going to get it in Richmond 100% partly because you're
an affluent neighbourhoods, I gotta think that has would have a fairly large country enjoy, which they'll probably resort to, and definitely load them up with a bit of candy my my parents would do they would give an apple as a way of a bit of a well, you have to if you get knocked,
you have to give something you have to
read something, give something and just do it for content. Yeah, give him something funny. Or I can just Baby I
don't like because I can't see the security camera. Like if this was my own home I'd be able to see before opening what's behind the door. That is half the surprise now. You gotta do it. You gotta give something
Go. Go just say hello. Get a bit of content, do a Vox partner.
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