- September 25, 2018
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The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday September 25 (Ep 181) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
We’re all a bit on the spectrum, Tommy is starting to question star signs, vertical vs horizontal video production, two screen viewing and Josh is pulling a Dick Smith and will no longer use Booking.com
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Talk Show Episode 181 Tj I'm coming from Paris Paris now Not to be confused with Paris
if you just a Bogan couldn't say Paris Paris nice colour live
pedals now you if you do hear a little bit of wind that it's the the wind of the the ocean.
It's not the bad Sylvie had last night.
Delicious sushi actually, do you say sushi?
I said, Well, I've heard how you say it and I haven't addressed it. So I don't address how I say it because I think you say it wrong.
I think I decisive Locky never shortened,
so that'll be super well. licencing.
It sounds like a kid I went to school with Sophie.
Yeah, it was very multicultural out in the suburbs. I went to school with john James Ben.
Oh, yeah. in Harlem. I got all the good. The good names. But see. Yeah, I attack.
Actually. There was a kid. His name was Hiroshi fact I have fond memories of Hiroshi. And so does everyone else at the promise school. He would stick his feet he was a little a little Chinese. Where did
they stick his finger?
Now he used to stick his finger up at everybody. And he used to say to everyone, no way. Fuck you. It was awesome.
Well, let's say this is the problem. I had something similar but it was slightly sad. When the neighbour just I wasn't sad. I'm probably over exaggerating. But one of the guys that I grew up with from all the way from kindergarten all the way through to you 10 into VC, but he was autistic. And would he couldn't speak much at all that all the kids have taught him all the swear words. That was the line that I saw him on the street. Two years after school just waiting for a bus and I pulled over and I said his name. I waved him down. I said hey, do you want to lift? He said fuck off can the anointing was open to the open the passenger door to let him in. And so I had to those the bus was coming behind me so I had to drive off. I've told that storey before but
it's actually one of my favourite. Wasn't he autistic as well?
Yeah, no, he's it was the same guy. So that's why he probably swore at me. It's just he was the one who was he was sort of was befriended by the naughty students. Get him to do dumb shit. And unfortunately, yeah, he's vocab was very much centred around. swearing
limited to swear words. I mean, mine was I wasn't autistic, though. Or from another casual word.
I'm a slight you're slightly autistic, probably slightly autistic spectrum.
I think definitely. I mean, that's what the spectrum is. It's this is the very points that people fit in. I mean, it's pretty much it's thrown out there so much now it's it's it's almost the modern day, you've got a DD is you've got autism.
on the spectrum,
I think the sensitivities are around if you actually know someone with severe autism, it's, it's pretty difficult as
some of the things that can put a different time I it's almost like it like the difference between having a slight being slightly autistic or being what do they call is functional, or functional, autism, whatever. Like, that's a very, it's almost a very different thing. Right? Compared to to not being able to do anything. Yeah, instead of being completely sort of paralysed by but it is
like, it's almost a bit in vogue for some industries. Because if you're a filmmaker that makes really artistic films, and you have autism, yeah, it's it's celebrated, which it shouldn't it should not be see Mark Zach.
Well, if you see Mark Zuckerberg, with these smoking mates, you can say that he was definitely on the spectrum if you've ever seen that video. Yeah.
Classic one. Are you into star signs? Now? Well, I worked at you and I have the same stats on your mind.
Yeah, I've slipped into character.
what's what's the What is it? How being together being to vertigo Virgos Guys, guys. Guys, what does that mean?
Well, it means Ramm that we are similar. In in some in some areas. I used to get into this I when I was young, I used to wonder what this girl status on is that I'm saying? We compatible? Would you really think what you really think that? Well, I looked into it a little bit and that and numerology, which is in the same sort of, you know, same genre of outlandish ness. If you don't believe in any of it, you'd probably think I'm a wacko, but I'm more leaning towards. It's all bullshit, as I've got older, but what I did, I was in a cafe, the other day, and I used it used to be a little bit of a ritual, I'd open up the Herald Sun, you know, flick through probably get to the confidential, which is the gossip pages in Australia. And then
I think it was who Mitch Mitch Catlin got into the paper that week. Yeah, yeah, you'd see everyone It was
my It was my dream to get in the Navy got in there.
That's the only reason you went to fitness first Richmond, right to eventually get into the confidential
to be seen Josh to be saying.
anyway, a couple of weeks past the confidential and you end up on the the star sign page. And that's where I'd kind of read mine and finish off for the day maybe read the flame that I had going at the time. raid has to say if there's anything that sort of stuck out for me.
And yes, I was it was anything it was it was positive from your end, I'm guessing you would message it and say, hey, look what it's saying.
I never did that. That would be that'd be very on the spectrum. So no, but what I did was, I thought, hang on, I actually haven't thought about my son's stats on what is he? And I just off the top of my head. I couldn't tell you I don't have the recall on the date range for stats on but I did look, and I've taken a photo. He's an Aquarius. So he was born on February 14 2000. And was it six? 2017? Yeah, 2017 crazy. Imagine being born 2017
shit is pretty young. But could you imagine him having a Facebook account and this point? 2017 right.
So here's the thing. I started to read. Bodie, my 19 month old son, his stats on and if you just take that context, and you you have that filter for any time you ever read it, you'll realise how silly star signs because this is picture may is he gonna find love. Well, this is me read about it and just picture but he's on the other side and you're watching. Okay, buddy, your areas might you're an Aquarius, right? Yeah.
As much as he's an Aquarius, dad. Sorry. Oh, no, it's a new guy with it with a bow and arrow. Pretty sure that's
Did I really have all of that is that the will strike
nine and I only feature the month that is so that will show the being Virgo. But it's cut out of the photo that I took. Anyway, everybody you're an Aquarius, a reality as much as you might be focused on the big picture of life and where you want to go and what you want to achieve. The full moon this week is reminding you that you also need to tend to your own nest. Otherwise, you can experience some major discombobulation, especially on the homefront. Be prepared.
Do you think that means he's gonna get reflux or something you can need to burp him? I don't know, what does that actually translate to for him?
Pretty sure the kid doesn't think about his own nest, or he's not looking at the big picture of life.
It's bullshit. It's absolutely crazy.
Dude, is this only for this context that you've realised this is this but yeah, you can was
it? It was a penny drop moment. Because it's, it's like, yeah, I have this little child in front of me. It was just wanting weight bakes, and didn't give a shit about the big picture of life. So I was like, these are written on the most broad basis about things that everyone thinks about. If you're not thinking about your life, you're probably not human.
How many people have actually made big, big, big decisions based on either star signs or like I'm
writing? I look we hopefully will have my best mate and I you're you're one of them to Josh. But race Mitchell has been my best mate since grade prep. Which is like you five years old?
I thought you're gonna say James you're gonna get we're gonna get Jimmy on to talk all things. conspiracy theories. No,
no, I bet race Mitchell. He's his dad con the fruit. If you live in Australia, you might know him from TV back in the day. Anyway, I
didn't know that it was on TV just assumed that he had some form of fruit. Like it's actually
Mr. Khan. He was he was taking off
a well he's impersonating or impression of a guy who owns a fruit shop, which is amazing.
Yeah. It was a comedian with a character.
Yeah, but races dad, he's really into numerology. And I've spent some time chatting and reading through stuff with him. And there's some pretty there is some good stuff that is there was very relatable to the person I am and some of the exotic numerology. So you can work out your nuts, everyone has a number, and the numbers worked out by adding up. So I'm being born on the first of the ninth 1988. So you add one plus nine plus one plus nine plus eight plus eight, which gives you 36. And then you what you do is there's two numbers to your numerology number. So it's number 36. And then it's something else and that's something else is three plus six equals nine. So I'm a 36 nine, that's my numerology number. And so you just you work it out by using that equation. I just, you probably can't remember
what are you learning about yourself through the old numerology?
Well, it was I read it a long time ago but if you find out your number, you can then search online and type in you know what my numerology number explored and then type in the number or something try that. See, this is a good one for read it. Now I know if I am thinking about read it. I could maybe post up his numerology bullshit and put my number in there.
Let's get everyone's numerology numbers up on our subreddit. Yeah, that's a good idea. Good. And what sort of wacky people were having, like how wacky you have to be to listen to the show.
Maybe magic for all 36 nights.
Well, you might I don't know. Whatever fact that means.
Yeah. But anyway, so this is the thing you can go down. You know what I love about it? races dad, Mark, he knows he knows that really, really well. And when anyone ever knows something really well, and it just captivates you when they talk about it because they're like a feeling it you know, it's like I love watching you talk about tech stuff. Because I know how much you love it and it just fucking oozes through just with these passionate it's like it's like it's cool. It's like yeah, this my friend he loves that stuff. get him get him revved up wait till the start so
what does it What does he How fun is he gotten with these numerology if they meet someone more he straightaway be adding up?
No, don't think it's that it's more just well races house there was, which we can speak to him about grew up with like five brothers and sisters. And it was always just like, you know, everyone chatting around this stuff and friends coming over. It was cool. I think it's like, something to talk with people about if you're a total non believer of this shit. It's a hard starting point. It's a very has that important, but I can't Yeah, so I draw the limited star signs, as in just the bloke who, you know, Dennis, who writes the Herald Sun star, so I'm, but I'll give time to someone who thinks they know or you know, has the information on all this other stuff? What's your stance? What do you think? No, no,
I, I'd be happy happy to entertain whatever the answer is. Because the thing all of the all of this stuff is just narratives anyway. And we apply. I think that is probably a method to be able to pull stuff out of our, our consciousness maybe. So by saying these things, we can then connect it to our life. And it may be as a way of forming those narratives and helping us to understand what's going on.
Yeah, that's good. So we should we should, this is a bit of a new segment that we're trying a question that's come through from Reddit. And if you
I know you were you were saying that this was the thought you were going hard on the numerology launched into a segment.
So if you're listening in your and you're on Reddit, and we're about to answer a question that's come through on our Reddit, so start listening to the show, and hopefully you'll hear your response on the daily talk show posted on to our Redis Does that make sense? That's from Kyle
Yeah, it does. You just have to go to reddit.com forward slash our forward slash the daily talk show I find the letter are hard to say me too, because when I say it, too, I remember saying it to an American taxi driver and he couldn't understand like I was spelling out applies and he just every time I said he couldn't understand had to really put the our in our so our see the piracy. Our calls asking vertical versus horizontal. He says boys awesome episode with Rob Ryan. JOHN earlier last week personal Ray Ban brands stitch up it was an absolute Pisa would love your thoughts on vertical video is the future. Is it the future of content? Are you currently shooting horizontal with the thought that it can be resized into vertical video? Yours in content questions, Kyle? Yeah, what's your take shout out to car decal video,
I've been thinking about a lot. And I used to have a bit of pushback to it. I've always encouraged people to turn their phone so that they can have it in landscape to get the most out of it. If they make a video. Like it, they want to make a bigger video. But what I've actually started doing is not worrying is much and thinking for little bits and pieces. Like I used to turn my phone for a everything. And film at landscape. Yeah, which is my I've started pushing towards. I know if this is a good moment. And I can get it like this. And it looks good on portrait. Go for it. Because I don't know quite what I'll do with them yet. But when the technology of things like TVs can swivel. I know Jules lon mentioned that, like flip being able to flip your TV onto its side and watch everything in portrait. That's when you'll be able to pull from the archives all the footage that you've
pretty like that's really could you imagine, what's the use case of doing that? We're going to flip your TV vertically in your lounge room. I mean, you'd have to buy TV, I'd have to buy one.
But I would buy one
by TV and then a swivel bit. But the thing is, you're probably the best position to get one given you're starting from nothing.
Yeah. And it is an appealing thing. I would do it. Kyle for us, we make videos for clients. And so there is some points around when someone wants wants it wide, but also wants it in portrait. Go figure.
Yeah. So that's it. It's a I think that it comes down to the audience, the platform, where what is the I think every piece of content even though it goes far and wide, it normally has a native platform. Yeah, where is it going to? Where do you want it to be the hero? Where do you want it to stand out? And so if you're doing an IP TV native piece of content, then obviously doing vertical makes sense? Yeah, if you're doing stuff for YouTube, and then want to do some teasers within Instagram, I think what's going to eventually happen is, obviously resolutions getting better and better. And you can just crop in. I think that being able to do auto crops, I think will become American probably in the next 12 months, 18 months, there will be devices that it's a pretty simple thing, really, it will take your 4k footage, and automatically allow you to shoot vertical. Actually, as I say this, I think that the new GoPro Hero seven, Black has a vertical function
that that looks amazing for a little handycam a little action camp. But you're right, I'm giving it less and less pushback as time goes on. But you're right. I don't shoot things purposefully for portrait for portrait. Because Yeah, most of my stuff like, I'll put time into a hero video that will end up on Instagram, sorry, sorry, that will end up on YouTube. And then it can flow down. And if it can't be fit into a portrait, I don't care, because my main point and what I want to be creating is those wider format. You know, a traditional style traditional format.
Yeah, I like the idea of what I've done for a couple of clients is taking the whole vertical canvas and applying multiple horizontal videos. So having sort of like a three, you know, three screens type of thing, which can be a cool, cool effect. a cool way of sort of showing a lot of content, but it can be a little bit of a overload as well. Yeah,
you're a visual I do feel like you've got a day at that moment of watching three videos simultaneously about three different things.
But that's where it's going anyway. Did you ever use when you're at home? Did you your parents do you ever use like a picture and picture function? Do you remember when that was a big big thing when TVs had that you could watch one thing and then have a little screen with something else on
Jays I am I do that now? I just have my laptop and then my phone in my hand. Well, that's
it was the first step but you would it was that idea that you could have the sports on and then you could be watching whatever it is that you know Deal or No Deal. can have headphones, you could plug kit I remember our TV, you could plug headphones in. So while the other person could have the speakers or the TV, the other person could listen to the headphones. Oh, that is cool. I've been doing it with sports. I think sports one of those things you can you can be watching a TV show and then just have on your iPhone or on a smaller screen. Yeah, just a game going. We just you don't really need a he can just see like kicking them fully. Back and forth. Yeah, we we had a epic file on the way here to power us on the on the cruise like on the boat to get here. We got a message from the hotel. And they said Hi, where, where basically, we've been trying to contact you were unable to accommodate you. Can you please contact us. And my thing was I wanted everything to be through the booking.com app. I didn't want to have any of these conversations because this was literally on our way to the island. And we're getting told that our accommodation for the next three days isn't going to happen. And so I went hard on them and I was like Luke night tell tell me on through booking.com blah, blah, blah. And it turns out, we had booked our accommodation for September the right dates, but 29 Tang
hot or not
known Oh no. So because not all not all bookings through that platform and non refundable. But this this was
so basically you can normally what happens is it might be $1,000. And you can do a refund within 24 hours, whatever free of charge. And $800 you can get a non refundable.
Okay. And so you're on this. Did you realise that as you're on the boat? Like, did you have the wire?
Well, yeah, so we discovered we had 4g, and so I was looking or shitty 3g I should say. And I was looking at the booking.com app. And when you look at the app, it doesn't actually tell you the year. So within the booking confirmation, and this the booking summary, it just says the dates that we're going to be there. And so what they ended up saying what the hotel said is they they could accommodate us for the final two days, but not the first day. And they could give suggestions of other hotels and we'll just have to pay for that. Yeah, anyway, like I was I was firstname.lastname@example.org because the thing was that apparently, that hotel had contacted us the when it happened to let us know, but booking.com like it's it never made it to us. And it wasn't in the app, we never got an email. And so I contacted booking.com about it. And they were like Tough luck. So I've liked it. This is one of these examples, because the thing is that we've done over 50 bookings through booking com 50 properties, right? So it's probably over the course of the last maybe three to four years, we've probably spent 25 $30,000 calm right just very like whether it's like business e trips, or whatever it is. And so they couldn't like I explained what happened I said about the app, they're like now sorry, you've you fucked it, basically. And so they were literally not doing anything they couldn't I would have thought they made the hotel was telling us when we arrived I told him about my experience and yeah, they just same to impress with booking.com A that they said booking.com I'm getting on Deke Smith if you heard that episode.
My interview and
it's got that vibe, they take 20 they do take 20% of every booking I'm fucking done. I when I spoke to them on the phone, I said
how do I delete my account?
What did they say?
They said sorry sir we don't understand I'm like I want to delete my account. And they said just log off out of the I said I don't want to I don't want to log off I want to I want to actually delete my I want to delete my account so no longer exists. And they said well, we can't do that.
I can hang up
I mean, we're hoping so yeah, so you've lost accommodation for one night
yeah, so we we ended up with ended up in a slightly worse room the we bought the funny thing was when when I said to when it was all going down at this to start with and they're like hey, there's been a problem with the booking we can accommodate you. I straightaway got excited thinking to myself, the fact something this is good whenever this sort of shit happens. They have to go above and beyond and will get sorted out I said to Brian, Mike This is gonna be awesome because it means it will get upgraded to a better hotel. Yeah, and classic breakdancer. She said it was this is the best hotel on the island. So there was really there was nowhere to go anyway.
Yeah, sorry. It was a
disaster. I've got to ask it. Was there anyone at fault? Like it wasn't an oversight from anyone in Laurie.
Tommy just asked was anyone at fault
Bray saying May as in her to be the thing is this is Bray said it's over. This is the thing. It's not bracelet It's my fault for not pulling my finger out and booking everything breaks down all of the booking for the next trip. She's done. All the Airbnb, all of the hotel was like we've been away for 100 days, we haven't had a single fuck up.
It's Bry brace that is presser from that. Yeah, just that fat thing.
Like I'm sure 100% It's a total mistake, because you don't mean to do that. I know someone with so we did a shoot a couple of weeks ago, maybe a month or so ago, in an apartment that was rented through a bay. And I suggested it for the for the film shoot. And it's a really lovely apartment in Fitzroy. And we get there. And I see my producer, she came down to meet me. She told me what had happened. Because she looked a bit frazzled, rocked up, and only showed the talent rocked up there the night before to stay. And she walks in and she sees that there's things on the stove, and there's a bottle of wine open. And she knew that those people in the house and what they've done was they booked a they was room. No, they just didn't realise that it was a it's not the entire home. Because you know how they are in this house? not expecting to see somebody in there. And then they're having this fucking realisation in the moment guy. I shit were filming today? No, they told them the filming. But there was another filming
wasn't happening in the air b&b.
No, he was filming in the bay. But there was like certain details that you leave out as you do you kind of just, you know, there were four people, there's probably going to be eight or you know, and
yeah, it was.
But the conversation with the girl I know was very much already never know how the hell was I meant tonight. And in the moment, I'm thinking, you stuffed it.
It's on the it's on this on the body. Nobody here this.
While I'm judging her for just not walking. She said that the owner said this fucking happens all the time. The amount of times She's like a super host, this woman who has this apartment, just like this. This is crazy how often this happens, people rock up and go. What do you mean, you stay here? We've rented this place. It really
it's, this is the problem, I guess, with people just using new services or technology. Yeah, which isn't the case for you? Because he laid out a real
great case for having almost books. This is
this. I was so fucking angry. Because they literally I said, unlike, you know, we have stayed at, you know, over 50 places. This has never happened, you know, like she says, Yeah, like, it was a problem with our user interface would be getting all the time. You know, we don't as this slide, Go fuck yourself. booking.com Yeah. And so like, I'm, I'm actually like, seriously? I am. The problem with these companies is they're all owned by one person. So it's like, oh, one sort of organisation. So I actually think that I can't go on Expedia. I'm sort of ruling out a lot of options. But I like, I'm going to try the whole dig Smith thing. I'm going to fucking go local. I'm going to go direct to these hotels. I'm driving down with booking calm,
and maybe we can pull the dicks myth. Hashtag pull the deck Smith. We put a Deke Smith. For when we got to Sydney for Christmas. We drive. Yeah. And it's a long drive with a baby. So we break it up. And we're staying in this motel. And we go direct. We call them straight up. They take a call. Have you have you booked for this for this year already? Yeah.
Hopefully they can say this is the thing, right? It could be there was never meant to be a joke. But I say that you've taken out misfortune of booking them on yours some sort of joy. I said, What you've done a Christmas of 2119
was wanted did you mention because Dick Smith said to mention him when you realise you mentioned Deke Smith
know that we might when we get there. It's we're paying 200 bucks for two rooms. It's pretty fucking pretty cheap. And so I guess when you look at it like that. I mean, I like I said, when you talked about what the geek had to say. We we tend to do that we call I like to call the actual place themselves. Yeah. But you probably can't do that when you're in
Greece. Yeah, it's a little bit harder. Thank you saying booking.com said Are we tried calling you about it. That's it. Right. You're on a Phuket you're on the Internet at like your online app. We use this message thing all the time. We don't like that we're trying to call my Australian number. Anyway. It's all good, where we ended up finding a nice place. And we move into we actually about to get breakfast in 10 minutes at the place that we were meant to be staying. So we're lucky. We didn't get breakfast at the new place. And now we're now walking across the road. So it actually worked at the people in power Ross, a super lovely. Everyone's been really nice. Yeah,
yeah. The Greeks are pretty laid back. It's it's a
nice between the Greeks and the Italians. I thought that they were all assholes. It turns out the Italians are the assholes. The Greeks a sofa Nice. Yeah. Okay, you know, like the Italians like they do have a bit of chewed with things like they just don't have time for shit. Yeah, but it's fair. I was expecting that from the great. And then we just every single moment throughout this grace trip. Everyone has been so accommodating. The taxi driver loved her job. It was just yeah, it was really nice. Yeah, that's also add
the countdowns on. It's three more shows after today's episode three more shows. And we're in New York City. Yeah, baby. I way should we do our first show for
good boy, we could go to if we were to go for Bogan, we could go.
What's the square? What's mine? Oh,
yeah, there we go. But we could either do that or we could do something a little bit classier. But the daily talk show is what you've been listening to. will be in New York, then ally. If you have a guest that you think we should have on the show? Let us know we've lined up some pretty epic people, which we're very excited to share with you in the coming weeks. Otherwise, have a good one. And we'll say tomorrow.