Ep 1000 - pt 6 Trevor Long
Josh Janssen: [00:00:00] Very low barrier to get into the wrong spot
Trevor Long: [00:00:07] was committed to do the daily talk show
Josh Janssen: [00:00:09] for 10 years. I had guys who did they in the calendar. I just like to check the temperature in the room. I
Trevor Long: [00:00:14] told you my squeegee story.
Okay, Mike, can you hear me? Oh yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:00:22] it's perfect. You sound great. You're on the, you're on the
Trevor Long: [00:00:25] stream right now. Uh, hello? Hello. What's going on? That goes, that three-day deal flashback.
I don't think I've seen that full video. I think I saw bits of it maybe on Instagram or something, but not the whole thing.
Josh Janssen: [00:00:43] I didn't think it was posted if Trey, Trey would remember that. Yeah. He's being spin. Yeah.
Trevor Long: [00:00:50] Never seen the champagne in the bath
Josh Janssen: [00:00:54] was spewing our members just based, so spewing about that.
But, um, we, uh, we can laugh at it now. It was very good. Um, uh, your, uh, giving away a car. Can you just tell us about that?
Trevor Long: [00:01:07] Um, that's a good question. Uh, so I started getting all these ads in my Facebook feed for all these. Exotic car giveaways. And there was this one, certainly in Sydney, it was, um, proceeds for the rural fire service.
I'm thinking, why is the rural fire service like your CFA giving away, buddy? McLaren turns out. It's just, um, I'm not going to say dodgy, but some, you know, individual who's found a way to find a fundraising mechanism, but also a way of selling his own car. Right. And so now all I get in my Facebook feed of these ads for blokes making money, raffling cars, that's what they're doing.
Making some money, you know, just reading, you know what? I can't afford a Lamborghini, but I'm doing okay. It's been an okay year after all the drama, I'm going to buy a car. I'm just gonna give it away, like free entry and stuff. So I wanted to buy a care per Canto, anything you can get for $20,000 with Wallace, Apple CarPlay, which good tick.
And it kinda wasn't a, it was a cool little car, but it's not really an every, every person car I was driving there. This is a really cool car. I rang the people at Huna and said, listen, I don't want to give away a car and they went, listen, mate. I mean, no, wait, no, no stop you right there. I want to buy it. I want to buy a car, really like a good discount.
Like I can't afford the 24 grand or whatever it is for the car. And they went, listen, we'll work on it. I came back with a price that was reasonable. I went and bought the car. So I'm just dumb, just doing it to build. You know, read, listen, watch is my thing. You know, we just want people more people to watch for people to read more pivotal, listen and just reward fans.
Yeah. Why not?
Josh Janssen: [00:02:40] How does it work in regards to the, the, the chance draw thing? Like I know that you have to get some like, um, that was Trump's
Trevor Long: [00:02:48] budget. It cost me two and a half thousand dollars for those permits. So what does the permit
Josh Janssen: [00:02:52] look like? What do
Trevor Long: [00:02:53] they require? What I did was I went to, um, might've been a radio station, you know, terms and conditions, and I copied it and I just changed everything.
Cause I thought a lawyer has done this. Right. So I'll just change all the bits, um, and just edit it, everything. And then I, I found a company that does all the submissions for you to new South Wales, Victoria NSA. And once you've got those three, you're allowed to do competitions anywhere in the country.
Um, and yeah, they. I was trying to do a charity thing where you, um, you donate to gotcha for life, which has Gus, Wallens kind of a men's men's mental fitness program. And I wanted people to donate and then with their receipt number, get extra entries in the drawer, but apparently you're not allowed to do that under the gaming regulations.
So in the end, it's just a click putting your email address and you've got one entry in the drawer. But what I did is I used to think, or gleam, it's a really cool kind of competition to platform Aussie based. And I give a code word in a podcast. I'll give a code word during YouTube videos. I'll give a code word on the website and also probably hopefully three or four weeks away from launching an app.
There'll be a unique code word in everyone's app. And those code words, get you more entries. So if you're a prize pig and you just filled in the form and got one entry, There's going to be people that blitz you with 200 entries because they listen, watch and read everything. So it's just really fun user engagement thing.
Cause I get really good fan engagement in the Facebook group. That's that's where I do everything. It's just, it's a fun group, really loyal, really passionate about what I do and what technology is say. It's a cool fun. Yeah, give away.
Josh Janssen: [00:04:28] I mean, we, we talked about free stickers on this show once and we had someone contact us from, uh, America somewhere.
But what we think it was someone who was scraping you. You're not some sort of. Uh, you know, stick a collective that doesn't listen to the shark, um, you know, looking for the word free online and then entering anything bizarre.
Trevor Long: [00:04:53] So I called OzBargain and, and people that find really cool deals on dishwashers or whatever it is.
They put them up. They say, everyone knows about it. And they do that as well. They like giving away a car. He's had an into click the link and I reckon 20% of my entries thus far have come from OzBargain. And good on them. I'm happy with them, but I know that they won't read my emails. They won't click the links.
Like it's not a real value to me. So hopefully the overwhelming massive actual fans will, will overwhelm them and hopefully win the car.
Josh Janssen: [00:05:21] Then you hope it's one of those that actually wins it. Right.
Trevor Long: [00:05:24] Tickets put on it looks
Josh Janssen: [00:05:26] good. Oh, that's great. I was just talking the other day about yellow pages. And thinking about what people spent on yellow pages back in the day, is this almost like, cause people would spend 20 grand on fucking yellow pages that is this almost like that version in 2021.
Trevor Long: [00:05:41] Part of it for me was also all the drama with Facebook earlier in the year. And I was super vocal about that everywhere. Every media outlet, Eric and I, I spoke to more radio stations. Like in terms of individual radio stations, then any event I've ever done before that morning, that Facebook kicked news off the platform.
Um, and I did videos that went. Like in my world, Pharrell like crazy numbers and Oh, super passionate about it. And I said, I'm never spending money on Facebook. Again, like I'm never going to spend $20, $50 or $200 to boost a post again, because I've learnt that I don't control that audience. They're not mine.
I've spent thousands building the audience by boosting posts, but 18,000 people can like my page, but I only get to post something to. 1500 of them at a time. It's a bit of a pain. So I've invested in an app. So I'm building an app that's instead of spending on Facebook and then yeah, the car thing is another way of, I mean, it's radio call me, Josh and me.
We're radio people at heart. This is a radio primer. You're like, Oh, you know what I want to do. I'll tell me to come up, take the car and go black thundering and yeah, give some
Josh Janssen: [00:06:51] cold cans.
That was terrible switching.
Trevor Long: [00:07:04] good. That's fine. Um, the,
Josh Janssen: [00:07:07] uh, and, and so in the app stuff, When it comes to, um, building an app, there's heaps of people who spend a bunch of cash on trying to build an app, and then they go to the wrong company and blow all their money. How do you build an app? Right.
Trevor Long: [00:07:24] Cheers for that stuff. Cause I don't know that I haven't blown all my money yet.
Um, I'll tell you what I did. So my idea was Ali, I don't want an app where you read FTM content. That's on the internet. You can get that in the browser. What I want is an app that allows me to have push notifications to those who choose it and widgets. I think we get to the coolest thing on smartphones.
Um, Andrew it's had it for years, Apple. They just look slick and they work really well. So I went to freelancer.com and I went, you know what? I'll spend. I just went five grand. I don't know what it is. Tell us me five grand. I want to, I want to have to does just these things. And I paid for the recruiter and everything, and they found me one company and I'll have this back and forth with these coming in with, can you send me some app examples so I can do some downloads and have a look?
No, we've signed NDAs with the companies we worked with. I'm not going to hand over five grand, let alone anymore. If you can't show me your work. So in the end, I'm not developing an Android app. Cause I haven't found an Android developer yet, but I found a, an Apple developer who was in fact one of the.
Worldwide developer conference. Apple's big developer show. Every year. He was one of those scholars. So a young kid he's like 18. He was 16 when I first met him and he like, he's doing it, he's paying him, but I know that he should be charging me more. Um, but you know, dropping a few grand on an app like this, I think it looks slick.
It's fun. And you know, I don't know whether it's going to work, but I think it's a point of difference. Cause it's a, everyone's in the same on the web. So I'm just trying to do something a little bit different.
Josh Janssen: [00:08:46] You have an idea of what you want to get fries downloads, like what, what working will look like.
Trevor Long: [00:08:52] I'd be, I'd love to have a couple of thousand straight up like real early, especially given that the comp so, and I'll, I'll let you know here. There's the maximum of 200 entries per person in the comp. There's going to be 75 entries. If you download the app. So I'm super incentivizing the app. Download. If I can get a couple of thousand app downloads straight away, and if I could get to five, if I have 10, 10,000, I'll be, I'll be dancing in the street and investing in an Android app straight away.
And anything above that, it'll just be awesome. Cause I'm not, I'm not, I'm not one for big audiences. I'm for engaged audiences. I want people who are into what we do. I just don't want people random. So that's the way I always kind of target things. Well, just talking before about how Apple
Josh Janssen: [00:09:35] has, uh, an event coming out, uh, coming up and that it actually got leaked via Siri.
I don't know if you heard that, but,
Trevor Long: [00:09:44] um,
Josh Janssen: [00:09:46] yeah. Do you know, uh, What they're expecting
Trevor Long: [00:09:49] for that Apple announcement? It was everybody announcement. No one really knows, but we can speculate pretty heavily based on rumors like finicky and I, the podcast we do every week we recorded last night. Um, we spent 30 minutes speculating blockage.
You know, what you can do is speculate on anything, but I'll tell you right now, there'll be iPads, brand new iPad on pad pro iPad, pro 12.9 inch. So the big one, um, so this guy, he will get replaced by a new one. Look the same, better camera, better processor, and a whole new screen mini led. Which is a new technology coming to screens these days.
And then I think there'll be new. I've had many, cause it hasn't been one for a couple of years. Um, I think they'll spend a lot of time talking about the new Apple find my, which is their kind of tall tracker. Um, these here are new Belkin headphones that are launching in August in Australia. I think. Um, that will have the fall and my tracker built into them so that you can find them if you lost them,
Josh Janssen: [00:10:44] that's actually, what is it using?
So they don't have GPS. Is that using like low power
Trevor Long: [00:10:48] Bluetooth or what to energy Bluetooth. So these headphones and your key ring, constantly emitting a Bluetooth signal. And the power of find my app is you go, well, where's my bloody headphones. You open the app, you press a button and they go, beep beep.
And you are there. They are there under the couch or whatever, but if you lose them at the park or you leave them at the gym, There's millions of people with iPhones, right. And Macs and iPads, every single one of those Apple devices, as long as they're running iOS 14, when they go past or need these keys or other items, it kind of triggers a location pin.
And so if you say it's lost, the thing will then let you know where it is without anyone knowing Apple doesn't know, Belkin doesn't know the person that will pass doesn't know. You know where your keys or item is? Very cool.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:33] I mean, I've seen a video of a, um, a dog. And you can hear the, um, find, find my AirPods going off inside it.
Yeah.
Trevor Long: [00:11:44] it would be fine.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:46] It would be for you to see, you see similar ones where it's like, they've got music, they equal it to make it sound like it's
Trevor Long: [00:11:51] in their guts.
Josh Janssen: [00:11:55] Uh, is there anything that is a piece of technology that you have that. You're blown away by how stupid a function of it is. Like it's easy to go on an app and go, how did they not, uh, introduce, um, thumbnail selection on square videos in Instagram? I can 10 years ago, or whenever it first came out, it seems like the easiest thing they could have done, but obviously from a tech perspective, there's things that are harder and apply.
Is there anything that just blows your mind that you've been banging on for years that our company hasn't fixed?
Trevor Long: [00:12:27] You know what? I can't think of something off the top of head Tommy. Um, cause you don't use shit company.
I
Josh Janssen: [00:12:35] think, I think it comes to mind with me is, um, back in the day, the like just having the, the issue with the copy and paste thing, then for many years, the iPhone didn't do copy and paste like Android. Like how ridiculous was
Trevor Long: [00:12:47] that? Back. It's funny. I was only six or seven years ago that it was a big deal that Andrew had had copied and pasted in.
I find dinner finally merged a bit, so we don't have those ridiculous things, but, you know, I think that some stuff, you know, it's just the simple things. Sometimes operating a TV, shouldn't be as hard as they make it. And sometimes the, my biggest bug barriers is actually more luckily in a car. Like I was driving a Toyota homologs recently number one, selling car in Australia, you know, Toyota highlights, tradies love them.
And the Toyota asked me yesterday. They said, Oh, when are you going to publish interview? I said, look, two problems. One, I think any photos. Cause it was pissing down rain and on, I do reviews without my own photos. Secondly, I've got nothing positive to say about it. It was awful. I just didn't that it was slow, responsive.
It was like someone designed it 10 years ago and they've gone. We've got to get our 10 year payback on that investment. It's just, you got to read a sign and I'm sorry, folks, if you're, if you plug an Apple phone or an Android phone into a car and you get Android auto Apple CarPlay, you immediately go, ah, that's better.
It's real, it's familiar, it's icons as opposed to menus and all that other bullshit. Sometimes the operating system in cars is just way too complex and it should be much more simplified. In fact, I, if I was selling cars, I would just go to got Apple and Android. If you plug it in and there's just a radio, otherwise, everything else is in your fine PayPal.
I'm in an
Josh Janssen: [00:14:09] Uber this morning and it was a old, like a Mercedes, not too old, but it had, uh, Uh, full number sequence, like. The dial pad on the actual display. And I was like, that is fun. That is aged.
Trevor Long: [00:14:24] And he displayed, you'll love this when, when Bodhi and your daughter to be are a little bit older, but like, it's amazing having your kids with you now.
I, my youngest is nine, uh, nine and a half. You'd say, I guess. Um, and we get in a car and he's like, so I've got this big Genesis. New four wheel drive. Genesis is like the luxury version of Honda. And I had one a week ago and he got here as soon as it saw in the driveway, thought it was a Bentley because it looks like one.
And I went now, buddy, good luck. But we'll identify it. It looks like one gets in every part of it he's driving around. And today we got him when he looks in the back and he goes, this one's got an automatic up and down for the third row. Dad. No. What are the other ones? Have you guys just the second row.
And I went, fuck.
Are you able to identify the things like I was doing a, um, I had the kids with me this morning. I was doing a piece for nine news. Like, you know, it's a, what they call a seam set. So it's just me and a cameraman and the reporters on the phone. And they're asking me about privacy. And I was explaining how on an Apple phone, the little green dot comes up.
If the camera's in use and the orange stuff comes up 50 audios in use, which stop recording. And both my kids, Victoria, Harry nine and 10 go. Did you know that dad, that though, if you're on a FaceTime call or something, it changes from orange to green constantly. And I went, Oh, no, I didn't. Thanks for being here.
Thanks for jumping in on Martha. We'll have my little news session here. It's a great thing. When your kids actually start to, you know, love what you do and engage with it, it's made. It's awesome.
Josh Janssen: [00:15:55] Yeah. It's um, one part privilege, one part the future, because it's like any problem that they can, they just don't want that annoyance of thinking about it.
So what about this one? Um, apples, I, uh, Apple TVs remote, uh, that thing I'm forever changing, stopping it's sliding
Trevor Long: [00:16:12] down the couch. Tip number one tip is to go into the settings of your iPhone and customize the control center. You know, the control center, where you get all your brightness and everything and make sure that your Apple TV remote is in there.
So you've always got the Apple TV remote on your phone. So typing, whenever a password comes up, you just pop it on your phone. Like just that reminder, we've all been on phones.
Josh Janssen: [00:16:34] Man it is that I have used it once. I I'm a dumb ass for not using it more. Yeah. One thing that I need to work at is like, I've got a couple of Apple TVs.
And then you all get the same names. And so then I ended up, and this is a, this is the first one,
Trevor Long: [00:16:50] a first world problem.
problem. This is massive. Your first world. X-Box if you want to play multiplayer, you have to have Xbox live or gold or whatever it's called. Right. So I've got that on my account. And I, my kids have each got X-Box accounts, so you can manage their screen time and all that bullshit. Um, if you've got two X boxes, you can set one of them as the home device.
And so you don't like the parent doesn't have to log in and you can just be Harry there, but on the other device, I need to log in. And then Victoria can play on that and they can multiply in my house. That's the first world, third world problem. It's really first world is I've got four X boxes. So I can't be playing on the X-Box in here.
If they're playing out there multiplayer, we'll kick them off. Like, we've got so many extra. My kids certainly previous, but it's the best thing, because then it's like, they argue, they do something, right? I say, listen, You need to understand that every other kid in your class, they're lucky to have an X-Box and you got that.
Josh Janssen: [00:17:52] This is this, this is the home phone knocked off, man. Get off the
Trevor Long: [00:17:55] portable, took my kids to the Telstra museum last Friday.
if we're doing it today, show story. And I had the kids there, my wife and I do in the holidays. We do like one day on one day off. So, um, Um, often either kids are out on the visiting Optum to record this thing, going to record this segment on Thursday, my day of work. But the tonight show had to bump it back to Friday.
When I kind of worries, I'll bring the kids. So let's say heats on age to come with me. It's going to be boring. I'm really sorry, but we'll get macros on the way home. No worries, dad. So we go there and it's. It might it's for me, it's amazing. It's all mobile phone installed. Payphones. It's old telephones.
It's old exchanges where you actually patch calls through and it all works, but they've got phones. You pick up and your dollar, two digit number. And the one up there rings. Anyway, kids are there and I'm talking with Sean and staff on reminiscing, and I'm just realizing how fucking old I am. I'm gone. You guys were talking a couple episodes ago about like tele cards or phone calls.
That was exactly what I was talking to my kids about. I used to have a card that I'd use to teen, a 16 digit number, and it would ring mum charges onto her bill so that I can tell her I'm at the station anyway, the story. Great fun for me. We get in the car and I said, thanks guys. I really . I really appreciate it.
And Victoria goes, Oh, that was awesome. Yeah, he's serious. I was like, really cool. Cause they have a playing with stuff that we're playing with technology of old and they actually kind of experienced because they'd never heard of Delta before. And I said to them, I said, just imagine for a second. You're all on Minecraft.
Right? We've got a realm in Minecraft where we can all play. I said, you're all playing in the realm. And then mum comes home, picks up the phone and the world drops out. The internet drops out. That's what I used to deal with. My sister, come home, pick up the phone and I'd be kicked off the internet. Like they just don't have any appreciation for how awesome we have it today.
It's just, how
Josh Janssen: [00:19:54] did they fix that problem? I remember there was some issues, some wave. So that was just the complaint
Trevor Long: [00:20:00] we had went from dialogue, which was a modem that plugged into the phone line and that's like a fax. It would just use the phone and make that noise and then came along 80 or so, which stands for Josh might know asynchronous data, something long.
Right. And that meant that if you put that little filter, you had to put a little filter on the line where your phone was. And then the, the modem still connected directly in, so the modem and the phone could operate at the same time.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:23] Yeah. And a lot of people had real issues if they didn't, if they didn't have that filter on, they're like, why am I getting them?
That's
Trevor Long: [00:20:29] not even 10 years ago. The most common phone call on the radio was my finder. Dude. I'm like, have you got the filter? The little box? Is it next to the phone line? No, you don't go and get one from Dick Smith
Josh Janssen: [00:20:43] back in the old day. What about when you could. Be on a portable and be picking up next door, neighbors phone call.
Trevor Long: [00:20:52] You just get used to it a lot. Cross lines, even if it wasn't just the neighbors portable. Let me just getting cross lines. Yeah. Someone else.
Josh Janssen: [00:20:58] Oh, like away that bad weather would make it happen. So we got some really cheap. A wireless microphone to be able to use for the, uh, the, putting a pup for a cup, uh, downstairs, like real, like $130 for two wireless mics and whatnot.
It's
Trevor Long: [00:21:15] UHF. And then we got like, I saw them and they look similar to the ones I got
Josh Janssen: [00:21:21] the store DJ, like just like real like karaoke sort of things. But they have, uh, is it saying UHF on the, on the front, just their teeth on the box where the speaker is? Yeah, just here. Yeah. I think it's UHF. Um, and they, uh, they're so funny because it's that classic, like cutting out things that you don't get with a 2.5, 2.4 gigahertz stuff.
Right, right.
Trevor Long: [00:21:46] Yeah. And I think the, the other fun one was, um, Do you remember? You'd have a sibling on the lump. You'd have two lines in the house and I had one in my room and you'd pick it up. You pick up slow enough, just gently enough. They wouldn't hear the click and you could put your hand up and you could listen in.
Well, I think the best one, the best one was maybe Dick Smith had those, um, electronics kits. You'd go on your soldiering and, you know, learn electronics. I remember making, you know, things like a doorbell or whatever, but the best one was a wireless FM microphone. Which is above. So you build this thing, it put it in your sister's room, tune the radio to 92.1 or whatever the hell the signal was.
And you could, it was a bug. It was a microphone broadcasting in FM, and you can listen to what's happening
Josh Janssen: [00:22:28] in the other room. I remember one of the. First things I got from the internet was a device called the TV beyond. That's an odd thing to say, like, you know, getting something from the internet when I was just thinking about that, the first thing I got from the internet first three.
So I remember the first thing I got was a really small, slight, like clapperboard that you would, you would see in Hollywood or whatever. But this was a really important lesson because I thought it was a full size. I bought it on eBay and it was just a macro shot. And so I got it. It was a little like a wooden thing.
I was going to use it in my films. It was almost like a key ring, but, um, no, the TV be gone. What it would do, Trevor is it was just an infrared, um, signal. And you could point it at any TV and turn it off. And so I would just walk around the neighborhood, turning off
Trevor Long: [00:23:18] everyone's TV. Well, do you know when that was great?
Um, a few years ago, uh, probably not got one here, cause I've taken all the phones to the office now, but there was a couple of phones, HTC, even Samsung had an infrared blaster on the phone and you know, you could just go get an LGT. They can make you go to the airport. You can change the channel on the TV dramas at all.
He's here
Josh Janssen: [00:23:44] in the front door. Okay. We can cut to the camera at the front door. . There is something on the front door where I was
Trevor Long: [00:23:52] getting phone calls and I'm like, this is not happening.
Josh Janssen: [00:23:57] Dumped it. Here we go. Yep. Yep. I'm here. Okay. Great. JV roll camera.
Trevor Long: [00:24:05] Trust.
Josh Janssen: [00:24:06] What's that? This is for Josh or George, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor, Trevor forever.
Trevor Long: [00:24:17] I've done. I've just gone. You know what? If I was still broadcasting after how many hours you've done now,
Josh Janssen: [00:24:23] where we're seven to
Trevor Long: [00:24:25] go. So that's eight. Yeah, well, I'd need snacks. I would've gone to a third boat and just gone hard on the snacks.
I don't like, but they look like something new Tuesday, but it's a gay time. Friday.
Cara milk. Oh 12. Sneaky Josh. You'd appreciate it.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:07] have a heart attack. If I had one of these chest hurts that yesterday. Yeah. I could definitely slam a no dose that you could
Trevor Long: [00:25:16] buy no dose from us, essentially. The server trackies do
Josh Janssen: [00:25:21] this is, this is the future. Uh, GB, do we have anything that we can throw back to? Do you want to go into the, um, the, uh, Archive is covered.
Trevor Long: [00:25:30] Yeah. Just pop into the cupboard now.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:33] Yeah. I'm in here now. I found a couple of things. So maybe I'll start with one and then we can finish on one. Yeah. Great.
Trevor Long: [00:25:42] Okay. I'm going to come out of the cupboard now.
Josh Janssen: [00:25:46] Hey guys, how you going? Yeah. Good. All right. Before we started the show, we played a little bit about deal, uh, having, uh, Well, should I give some context?
Yeah, so, so 3d Dale was our, uh, intern and, uh, uh, Trev was nice enough to, uh, organize for him to go up to Sydney, uh, travel, organize the flights, the accommodation, everything, uh, business class. It was, it was locks and a very nice hotel as
Trevor Long: [00:26:15] well. Uh, I've got to
Josh Janssen: [00:26:18] say, uh, uh, three days had never been, I don't think in a very fancy hotel before he didn't understand how the minibar worked.
And so over the period of, uh, evening, he smashed everything that was, I ate everything and drank everything. It was in the hotel minibar, and I get a call from Trev pan. My mate. Um, it's, it's all good. Like, um, I'm not, not mad. I'm just surprised. Um, there's a $300. Was it $300 bill? Something like that 300. It was more just on the minibar.
Trevor Long: [00:26:54] I think it might've had a seven in front of me.
Josh Janssen: [00:26:58] It was, uh, it was, it was ridiculous. And so anyway, you refuse, you refuse to take out money for it. And I remember just being spewing, um, uh, jury during that time.
Trevor Long: [00:27:10] But, uh, I sort of just funny, I mean, who would have, who would have thought that would happen?
Right. I mean, I was just, I just thought I don't want him to have to pay that those incidentals, that you get charged 20 bucks. I mean, I'll put my card down so good. And he's literally eating the minibar.
Josh Janssen: [00:27:27] Oh, the other thing too is it's like when he was doing it, it's like, Oh man, it's here. So I might as well use it.
He's just putting it on over his head. He didn't even enjoy it. Um, and so w what do we have Jamie? So this bit is this basically you called him to do a bit of a test and be like, Oh, mate, how's the experience? What was it like? Yeah. So, so Trev you, um, I think that you called me and there was a bit, like, we didn't tell three-day
Trevor Long: [00:27:53] deals, right?
Yes. And so what is this
Josh Janssen: [00:27:57] bit? It's basically, you've told him that he's, you know, he's, they're not free and you're just getting them to read out what. He ordered. Sure. And, um, and so you guys did the calculations based on just general mass, but yeah, I think it ends up being more than what. Okay, cool. All right, here we go.
Uh, here it
Trevor Long: [00:28:15] is white wine, sparkling water, orange juice for O'Shea's category. Oh chocolate, uh, hold their own bar. I'm trying to think what else there is. It's all
Josh Janssen: [00:28:30] right. It's on the bill. It's on the bill. Read out the total cost of the minibar, that little, uh, champagne bath dill, $126.
That's a deal. That's a total of $193. What was your, so you've heard you've you've obviously you're checking out. Yeah, they would have told you what, at what point clearly, like we've gotten know, you've been thinking about this, I reckon all day, have you. Uh,
Trevor Long: [00:29:01] in my mind,
very expensive.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:16] But you also mentioned just before that, that you'd organized him like Uber black. Yeah. So he, um, he really made the most of it.
Trevor Long: [00:29:27] I remember trying to go. So I was trying to make something over for most trying to properly explain and show off. Right. And I think that I, yeah, I'm pretty sure I organized for Uber to send me some vouchers.
So there's no, that's not, that's not a, my council. I don't give a rats.
Josh Janssen: [00:29:43] Hey, um, I, you know, with the partner, you talk about what you're spending your money on. Um, did you have to explain to you
Trevor Long: [00:29:49] why, what the fuck happened? No. You see Tommy, um, or live in a world where I operate a couple of businesses. I have media, and then I have another account that used to be those business accounts.
And then there's my family accounts. I has no idea. What
Josh Janssen: [00:30:08] are you buying the Lego from which accounts
Trevor Long: [00:30:10] that that's for me, if Tim, because I review it. Yeah. It's very important. Definitely. It's $350. So Lego a couple of couple of months ago and Nintendo, and I just thought, you know what, I'll make a YouTube video because then it's a proper
content be content,
Josh Janssen: [00:30:31] man. Uh, I mean, you've been a part of our journey. For a very long time. When did you, what was the first episode trip that you
Trevor Long: [00:30:39] went to? I wasn't live for the squeegee. I'm sorry. I'm post 14, 15. So I'm set around 20 and then I was, so there was a period there where, um, My my commute because I work from home.
But because I do the today show pretty much, you know, three or four times a week, it's back then. Um, I was able to listen literally to every episode and have time to spare. Um, but what my biggest problem was, and I've spoken to Josh about this. I literally just stopped listening last year because of COVID not because I didn't want it, but because it didn't fit into my life anymore.
I don't listen to podcasts anytime outside the car. Just never, I don't ever have headphones on. I listen to podcasts. It's my driving thing. It's either music or podcasts. And so I never drove anywhere more than four. My office is four minutes down the road and I was doing the today show from there. I was working from there or here I didn't drive.
So I literally missed. You know, a large part of the COVID hype in terms of the show and all the things you did not miss no, he wants to do the fuck's GB.
What's going on? What was happening? He was so confusing to me when I tried to come back in and then I felt distant. I came back in and went, well, my family has moved on from
yeah. And, you know, the trip. I think Josh, his overseas trip was, was a kind of, I think for you guys, you'll look back. And this sounds like the old guy in the room speaking, but I've done more than a thousand episodes of podcasts. My own two books talking tick over 10 years. Um, so I've hit the 10 year milestone already and it is, it's super rewarding because, you know, it's, it's a milestone, but we never set that milestone.
Whereas you've actually set them all stone all, I think you'll look back year after year on that period of time where. The dedication that it took to do ours. So Tommy getting up early or just getting up earlier, you know, week to week, day to day to make it work was, was U2 establishing a genuine, um, commitment to the shark.
And I think that has listened because if you listen back to every episode in the month before the trip, there was a bit of, we might do every day, it wasn't definitely going to happen. And it wasn't that you realized, you know, you could, and let's be honest. The star of the show is actually Bri because partner.
On the planet and Tommy forgive me, but I don't even think Amy was dedicating your time in your holidays to that chronic commitment.
Josh Janssen: [00:33:12] Yeah. W there was a, there was a lot of, um, running around a Greek islands trying to find. SIM cards
Trevor Long: [00:33:19] for data. Exactly.
Josh Janssen: [00:33:22] Exactly. I actually should. I'm sure there would have been a better way.
I'm sure I could have gotten one good SIM and one Vodafone. Vodafone. Yeah, the
Trevor Long: [00:33:36] I wasn't traveling. Like I don't need to use it anymore. I switched carriers every month. That's awesome. Yeah. In the last three months, I've changed from Telstra and Optus. Now I'm on boost mobile. Um, in a couple of months, I'll probably change too. I want to change to one of the Optus. NPNs it's really interesting.
Well, the, the, the transition process, because I say to people all the time, it's one of my favorite things to say on the radio on TV is switch carriers. You can take your number and you can save money. But I did it once in six years, cause I was just stuck on Vodafone because I needed it to travel. You know, switching to Optus was a nightmare, legit nightmare.
I, in the actual transition process or just the reception, I get them on live chat and all that stuff. Just, it wasn't a good process porting my number over, but I, and I got really shitty with it and I went, no, no. Keep going. Cause I want to try the network in the end. I was only with them for six days because there's fog or all coverage here.
And this is where I do a lot of my phone calls with radio. So I just, I had to ditch a ditch switching to boost mobile six minutes. Six minutes from the SIM card, he gone to the website, it was live, met crazy, and you keep your phone number and you can save money. I just, it's just so easy to do so. And I, you know, part of me, there's this, you know, um, Problem that I have where I don't spend money on tech.
Right. So I say to people, Oh, buy this router. It's $1,600. I didn't pay for that.
Josh Janssen: [00:35:04] Dude. I've been at, I've been telling people to buy a vacuum and a robot vacuum, but I didn't pay for it. So I'm that guy
Trevor Long: [00:35:10] as well, someone has to be the person that, that experiences it and talks about it. And so what I. Try and do, whenever I can is also put my money where my mouth is.
So I w I, I spend a lot of money. I mean, my wife has no idea the money I spend, but yeah, well, I spent a lot of money. The decorations of the office are amazing, just different things, because sometimes, like I pay for my Spotify, Apple music, Netflix, Stan, and Disney, because I can get them all for free, but there's just, there's going to be a narc on Twitter who says, yeah, you can get it all for free prick.
And I'm like piss off, pay for it all. So I just want to have that comeback. I want to be able to say to people that my life isn't about freebies, I spend as much as I can when I can. I bought a new car, cost me 60 grand. I'm like, um, I've got a lease as well. I've got a alone, you know, it's sometimes you got to make it clear to people you're real and you do normal things.
So switching mobile plans to me is just a grounding thing. So
Josh Janssen: [00:36:06] the other thing too is if you're always after the freebie. Then people will expect freebies from you, but if you set the expectation that you're paying for it and all that sort of thing, then you can charge for your
Trevor Long: [00:36:17] service as well. For certain clients.
No, I don't think I'll live that way, but I always think, you know, you got to, is it, you have to look rich to be rich or you gotta look successful to be successful. Like you, you're not very similar. I genuinely think he was separated, but somewhere, cause like we were talking the other day about Melbourne geek and having stickers on the car and stuff like, yeah, that's me.
I was the same. I had business cards before you need a business cards, all that kind of stuff. Slip on the car to give away part of that. Is letting car companies like ringing Hyandai in saying, I want to, I want to give away a car here, make phone calls like that. Do you think they get a year hundreds? Oh, we've got an extra thousand people.
We reached this and that. And I went, listen, I just want to buy a car. I want a good, I just love a good deal. If I can. I'm willing to spend in excess of $20,000. And they will very accommodating because they don't have to deal with the dickhead factor. And so part of it is just, you know, continually trying to let people know that.
Sure. If I kind of do it, then I'll, if, if I'm that passionate about it, I'll buy it to review it. But it is a two way street. Like I'm not going to buy every DJI drone, because there's not enough business in drones for that to be justified. So if DJ want me to review stuff, you've got to send it to me to review.
Like it's depends on the product. Really depends on the product. That's
Josh Janssen: [00:37:32] um, I'm loving my vacuum. I sold one Trev. We got a sale. That's influenced mate. Mate of mine sent it to me. He's shooting. It's not a good
Trevor Long: [00:37:41] feeling. It's actually nervous feeling most of the time because you're like, fuck, I hope it's as good for them as it is for me.
Yeah. Yeah. And the biggest problem is when people. Go cheap. Like, I I've got one, that's a different brand, but it's like 12, $1,300 and it's got a, it goes up to a dock and it vacuums itself out. Like it's empty, like an empty itself into an empty, Oh my God, I need that cables and stuff. It's crazy. But I say to people.
That's the one that my wife likes. It's the first one that stays in our house for 300, $400 ones have never lasted because they don't do the job that my wife expects. And if I, if I used to mop the floors and they weren't any good, she'd make me do it again. Sorry. It's the vacuum judging. Yeah. Um, and so with people go cheap on me.
I'm like, You got to realize you're going to have this experience. So it's nerve wracking when people say they're going to do it, but then when they ring you or text you and say, this thing's awesome. You're like, yes, it is like it's validation in a little way. I'm kind of glad that that that's where it has.
The camera guy is the camera of use or
Josh Janssen: [00:38:43] got it at the front. You know, what has these, um, the, I, I was a bit lazy. I got it on a Friday. I think there was one of them. Well, maybe it hadn't arrived yet. Um, the vacuum arrived on a Friday, the camera that's right. Monday home invasion across the road on the Saturday.
He didn't have the camera
Trevor Long: [00:39:02] up. Is that the one where the cops and everything?
Josh Janssen: [00:39:05] Yeah, it was full on, but it's up now, but, uh, so handy. I think I'm actually more paranoid when I have my, uh, it's lost connection to my phone. Like it's I need to reconnect it. Towards, um, to the wifi, but I'm actually holding off, it's still working and getting it onto the, um, the SD card, but I'm actually less paranoid when I don't check it.
Like I
Trevor Long: [00:39:30] get, sorry. Well, I mean, think about it. This is what I think about security cameras and I've got, I took a photo the other day of a car in my driveway. Um, and you know, people. It's the reason my wife's really calm, put photos on Facebook that mess in the background. Cause it's people, we don't want people to think.
We live in squalor, even though we do. Um, so I find all the drama and people like zooming to the back and I've got at the front corner of the house. There's four security cameras, like in the exact same spot. And some guy goes, we've got enough security cameras. And I'm like, dude, I review technology.
That's, that's how I read them. Like for like, um, but I personally. Don't have notifications for security camera, because what are you going to do? What are you going to run back and bash someone? No. If, if you're in the house asleep, the notification is not going to wake you the, the breaking of the glass or something will it's evidence.
It's proof. It's, it's a, it's a security check. It's a security blanket. You know, when something happens, did that career leave that parcel? I look at the camera and it's still there,
Josh Janssen: [00:40:30] but it's good. Yeah. The one that you sent me did have a flame thrower on it. So we've got someone. Oh, we got someone at the door to the
Trevor Long: [00:40:38] door.
Charles said in the chat. There's
Josh Janssen: [00:40:41] something on his way for Jess.
Trevor Long: [00:40:43] Do you wanna just go down to
here we
Josh Janssen: [00:40:50] go. I wish we hear that this is, um, Yep. Yep.
Trevor Long: [00:40:59] I've got to look to the side, but
Josh Janssen: [00:41:00] do you want to see if he wants to do a puddle,
Charles? Yeah. Thank you. Oh, from who? Josh? You're going to find George. Yep. We're recording a podcast at the moment. Yeah. Do you want to be on it for a second? I got another delivery guy. Yeah.
Trevor Long: [00:41:25] In other words, he doesn't want his family knowing what he's doing.
Is there a sign saying there on,
Josh Janssen: [00:41:33] so I did think about printing one out. That's all right. That's a damn shot. That's as far as we, we had, we had, um, an overdrive up here in the room and she was loving, it took photos, took a video of us putting it on social media. She did. She did. No, but she also, she also did a, um, a pot
Trevor Long: [00:41:53] as well.
Um, I'm just it's if you've, I know you fucked up the thousand calculation early on was the funniest thing.
I was like, Oh fuck, it's still forcing the school holidays. Cause like, as I said, you know, on day on day off, I would've totally flown down because it would have been great. That
Josh Janssen: [00:42:12] would, would've been so fun.
Wow. This is from Charles. Charles has got his mum's over a cab. Cause he's not 18 yet. Is he 18? Oh, that's interest. I wonder if you can still buy I'll just say to
Trevor Long: [00:42:27] show the license, I guess. Yeah. On the receipt it's there, it's the recipient that needs to show cause they handing it to hand it over to someone who's overriding.
Yeah. Yeah.
Josh Janssen: [00:42:35] What's the Trev Trev in 2021. What's the biggest worry you have with the kids and technology out of everything
Trevor Long: [00:42:43] that you're saying. Snapchat is my biggest worry still because it's unsafe. You know, like my 14 year olds on Snapchat and I really wish it wasn't. I really wish I would have blocked it early on and just stayed the course.
But anyway, um, regrets, we have a few, uh, because you don't know what they're saying. This is, and you can't have conversations about it. Um, so yeah, that, that concept of what are you sharing? Worries me. Greatly because you know what kids share cameras everywhere, carrying a camera around the opportunity.
Then I just show some man that just freaks me out and I've done it. How we properly stop that. Um, other than making them put the fear of God into them, like, that's what I do. I just go, I'll show an example. My son is smart enough to understand now, but my daughter, when she gets a phone in, in the next year, ish at the end of next year, um, I will show her how I can.
Keep a copy of a photo. She sends to me without her knowing. And once she sees that, I'll be like, you remember, I can put that anywhere on the internet and that's the problem, right? Everything's on the internet. Once it's on the internet, it's, it's there for life. That's still our biggest challenge as a society.
So Donald Trump being on Facebook, it's, you know, social media sharing of content. Yeah. Yeah,
Josh Janssen: [00:43:56] dude, look how quick it happened. Like from, I had my first mobile phone at, uh, in grade six, Nakia 52, 10 banana color. Um, by the time, yeah, even like 16, 17, it was, uh, it was a camera phone, but like all the stuff from my.
Uh, Euro was deleted because the phones were so shit. Can I just say Charles just said, uh, I just got a notification from Uber eats that says I can now order alcohol without ID.
Trevor Long: [00:44:24] Thanks GB. Ah,
Josh Janssen: [00:44:30] there you go. That's it. You don't let your kids. Interesting hack. That is a great hack. Isn't it? If you
Trevor Long: [00:44:37] have George, try that.
Josh Janssen: [00:44:40] Yeah. Charles, Charles, try and buy yourself something more. And then we wait until I do Georgetown's needs to send him
Trevor Long: [00:44:48] self something. Cassie child with your parents by your side.
It's this forest. One for your mum, you answer the door. That's a critical thing, right? Cause we've, we've proven you can get it to the door, but you need to be the one that picks it up.
Josh Janssen: [00:45:04] Yeah, crazy that we're talking about things that kids should be. We're worried about our kids.
Trevor Long: [00:45:11] We're all just worried about Josh.
You say that's
Josh Janssen: [00:45:14] true. It's very true. Thanks so much, mate, for all of the support over the last a thousand episodes, we've, we've, uh, seen you throughout the, uh, the journey being, you know, along the sidelines and involved and, and it
Trevor Long: [00:45:27] means a lot. Boys. Oh, seriously. I love the show. And I don't say that because I've known Jeff for a little bit longer than the show's been going, but I just, I do, having you in my life gets me, people in my life.
It's like, you know, having people in a room and just having people's I work alone, you know? So I think that's the case for a lot of people, they enjoy this because it's like being part of the banter. And I think that's what you have now beautifully. And I think you've come back to the basics again this year, which.
I applaud and I think you're smashing it. So here's to another seven years and you know, millions of advertisers. Thanks,
Josh Janssen: [00:45:58] Trey. And, uh, also, uh, Charles says he doesn't have UberEATS in Bathurst, sadly. So they go, I do just have one more thing to play on that note. Yes. Uh, it's all about trip support over the years and the Gronk squad can get a bit fired up at each other.
Okay.
Trevor Long: [00:46:12] Yeah. Listen, just on Ben Fordham, we have to talk about this. I believe, I believe I remember an Instagram story whereby you re storied his story. He was talking about being a grown up on the Gronk squad. Terrified grog. I'm the fucking number one ticket King King Johnny come lady. Verified gross.
Josh Janssen: [00:46:34] We've got King rock there. Queen Gronk gem awards, measuring them. Arm-in-arm walking into a big live show
Trevor Long: [00:46:40] that we're putting on and be holding the fucking ring.
Thank you, Trev.
Thanks mate.