Birthdays and Babysitting

Josh: The Daily Talk Show.

Tommy: It's The Daily Talk Show, episode 611.

Josh: What's happening, guys? What's going on? Happy Monday.

Tommy: It's a late one. It's 6:22 PM here in Melbourne, uh, top of 28 degrees with a high humidity.

Josh: Was the top of 28. Now it's probably not that.

Tommy: What is it now?

Josh: We're coming to the end of the day. We're not the— the top shouldn't be. We should be on the sort of decline, moving into the 13s overnight. Into a top of 23 tomorrow with thunderstorm.

Tommy: What's the temperature?

Mason: Cooked at 26 degrees now, going down to 18 tonight, tomorrow back up to 22 tomorrow. Good to get out of those thunderstorms. Low of 14.

Josh: Good to get the banter, the weather banter out. There was a lot of weather banter at my son's third birthday over the weekend.

Tommy: That was good. The, um, happy birthday, Bodie.

Josh: Yeah, mate, I'm lucky that we had a tarp, uh, a marquee.

Tommy: Sorry. Whose marquee was it?

Josh: My brother Jacko's. It was his marquee.

Tommy: Harry's asking traffic on the Westgate.

Josh: Yeah, mate, there's always fucking traffic.

Mason: I bet there's a cam. There's definitely a Westgate cam.

Josh: There would be traffic on the Westgate. Definitely going out, like outbound right now.

Tommy: Whoo.

Josh: Yucky. Absolute yucky. That's the traffic.

Tommy: A lot of them report one thing that's an interesting observation with third birthdays. Different to first birthdays, mate?

Josh: I reckon, tell me about it.

Tommy: First birthdays is very much like everyone who's like been in your life. Yeah, almost like a wedding.

Josh: Yep.

Tommy: By the third birthday, all of them have gone because obviously you've had the kid and they're just fucking over it by 3. And so like, don't you find that it was a very different crowd?

Josh: Dude, first, yeah, you're right. You spot on. It's more about the parents at that point. You bring your mates over, you drink, you know, you can drink. It's like there's not a great deal of responsibility. The kids just crawling at that point or walking. Some of them are. Two, it's a useless birthday.

Tommy: Why didn't I go to the second?

Josh: Because we had about 3 people there. It was like my brother and me.

Tommy: I was invited. I think I was invited.

Josh: There was 3 parents. Yeah. Yeah. You would have been invited.

Tommy: I can't remember what happened.

Josh: Campton was there. His kid, like it was, it was so small. Doesn't really have a great deal of mates and they can't really walk. So they're all just, they're all losers.

Tommy: And then 3, the third one.

Josh: Oh my God, we had about 50 people at our house. Oh dude, it was so stressful. So stressful.

Tommy: I was, um, no fun. Even though we're, um, good mates, I hadn't been to your house yet, which is just—

Josh: You've been at the front, you dropped me back late. Yeah, Bree's been in.

Tommy: Yeah, and Bree's like, the big selling point is obvious, obviously the size, like it's fucking huge. It like when there's that many people, like when you think huge and then you have that many people in a room, it was, it felt still like small.

Josh: Mate, you have 15 kids, there's at least 15 parents that come, and if not, husband and wife, girlfriend, girlfriend, whatever it is, they all come. And so you double that, so you could be at 40 people, you could be at 45 people just from 15 kids.

Tommy: By the way, we're just getting some pushback. I think it's from Lisa.

Josh: What's Lisa? Lisa Stevenson?

Tommy: No, Lisa who? LK Lee, I think it's.

Mason: I think her name is Lisa.

Tommy: Lisa97's, I think Josh is a meanie pants to you. Tell him to be nice.

Josh: I just said before we started this episode, do you guys want to box on? I'll give you gloves and you can box on. And it's like, it sounds like, you know, that is violence, but it's more just like, do you guys just want to sort something out? But it's not even malicious like what you have going on. It's more like he— Mr. 97, when you're irritable, is the target because you couldn't box me out.

Tommy: Like, yeah, well, you know how drained you are. No, but 97 takes it like an absolute champ.

Josh: Yeah, you'd be more drained than when you started trying to box on with me mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually.

Tommy: All right, halves. And so, um, yeah, so there was, um, Yeah, good crowd, dude.

Josh: It was, it was real stressful, and I was in bed by 2:30 PM or 3 PM with Bodhi, and he was knackered. Like, he, he was so tired after that event.

Tommy: Do you think he doesn't like parties?

Josh: Uh, they just— it's just so much for them. The kid woke up early just wanting presents, and then the presents get them, like, because then all the other kids want to get the presents, open the presents, and then they're upstairs. Go upstairs and it's like a dog has got itself a, you know, some kind of toy and ripped it apart. There's shit everywhere. It's full on. But, uh, best present goes to Michelle Timms, our next door neighbor. Really? The next day, so Sunday, when things had calmed down—

Tommy: maybe, you know, maybe it was Saturday because I was having Dave a night of babysitting.

Josh: I didn't know this. Is this true?

Mason: Did you read the card?

Josh: I haven't read any of the cards yet. Oh, I've got all the cards in a pile. You checked for—

Tommy: you opened it in front— you checked, you got Bodhi to cheque the cards.

Mason: He didn't read it.

Josh: It was a joke. I was like, I'll read it later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh great, I'll read that. I'll do that tonight.

Tommy: So you can't really base whether Michelle's given the best gift if you haven't actually—

Josh: Well, if you just told me it's a night of babysitting, that's pretty good.

Tommy: Uh, do you think you'd take him up on it?

Josh: Um, yeah, Bodhi loves Mace. Loves him.

Tommy: What do you need to be a babysitter?

Josh: Patience.

Tommy: What about like facilities?

Josh: No, you'd come to our place.

Tommy: No, he, he can't go, he can't go to Mr.

Josh: 97's.

Mason: Why not?

Tommy: So because of the pitch within 97's card was, uh, like it's great, everyone will look after him here.

Josh: So a night of babysitting. I haven't read the fine print. What was in the fine print? Sounds like there's bloody fine print. Location specific?

Mason: No, all it was, it was just like, if you and Amy want a night off, Brody can come around to our place and hang out with me and my brothers and my dog and mum and dad.

Tommy: Is that different? So what time though?

Josh: What time though would this be? What time can I drop him off? What time can I pick him up?

Mason: Pick up? I don't know, like 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock.

Josh: What's he doing at 10 o'clock sleeping? Where?

Mason: We've got a spare bed.

Tommy: And so, but what you're saying, you're expecting him to go to your place at like 5, then go to bed at 9?

Mason: You can do afternoon, you can do—

Tommy: But you want him to fall asleep and then—

Mason: You guys go out, the thought was you guys can go out for dinner and then I'd get back later or whatever and then come pick him up.

Tommy: But so you want both of you—

Josh: The thought is really great, logistically doesn't quite fit.

Tommy: Because you want him, you want them to wake up both Bode at like 10 o'clock when they get back and then drive him to another bed. Is that the idea?

Josh: He hasn't thought of whatever it was. So the reason it's like people get babysitters to their house is because by the time he's gone down to bed, like you've put him down to bed at 8, 9, wherever it is, and then he's asleep and I don't have to touch him and I have to wake him up. So the problem with dropping him off at yours and then coming back to yours and getting him is exactly what you said. So it's really hard.

Tommy: Do you think that, like, because I enjoy— I'm very creative and I like when Bodhi does things creatively, even if it's like at the detriment to his own self-respect. Like, for instance, the other day he started, um, he was using a juggling ball, like a ball like he was a dog, and he was picking it up with his mouth and jumping over. And then, yeah, he was doing that. And then, so I Proceeded to throw the ball and be like, go get it, doggy. And there you go. And he put it in his mouth. And then I tried to like throw it up in the air and so catch it like a dog.

Mason: But Amy was—

Tommy: I couldn't tell whether Amy would— I felt like she was like half, half like, oh, that's cute, and half like, Josh, stop treating Bodhi like a dog.

Josh: No, that's fine. I was on the phone to him today just saying, monkey, monkey boy, you there? And he was like, he's just He's a little animal.

Tommy: So what do you need for— so from a babysitter, what do babysitters cost, by the way?

Josh: $20 an hour, $30 an hour upwards. It's like—

Tommy: Have you ever paid for a babysitter?

Josh: In New Zealand, because we went for a wedding, we got a random through an agency, but they're not— it's not random because it's an agency and they're checked, or they're just professional, you know, professional carers. And so That was about $120 or something cash.

Tommy: How do you know that they're professional? What sort of vibe?

Josh: It's a— she was lovely. It was an agency, so you can look at— it's a legit business.

Tommy: Could you be like, I want that person?

Josh: No, we didn't pick that. But I mean, that's it. People go to Bali and they get Balinese people to look after their kids. There's like services you can get through hotels. But I mean, you At what point? It's more going, it's always going to be fine, but what if? What if you just wanted to get pissed at Potato Head and your kid drowns under the care? Not saying it's going to happen, but that's where I struggle. I'm like, that's the— that's what you'd have to be okay with. Not okay with, really.

Tommy: That's the possibility.

Josh: You've put your kid in that position.

Tommy: No, I don't think that that's the I think that through babysitting you should be able to go out and expect that they're going to be alive.

Josh: No, that's what I think. That's what I think. But what I'm saying is overseas, it's like you're deciding and you're taking risks in anything you do.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: You have one drink and drive your kid. It's like, is that why, you know, if something happens, it's like—

Tommy: Well, that's a different— Now you're talking about drink driving with the kid in the car.

Josh: One drink, you can still drive legally, but What I'm saying is it's like, it's a choice you're making. It's a choice to let your kid ride the bike down a steep hill with no brakes, which you've done many times.

Tommy: Um, actually, it just occurred to me when I was babysat as a kid. Is that what you say? Babysat?

Josh: Yeah.

Tommy: Uh, when you'd come home, like when my parents would come home, they would then have to drop the babysitter home. Like they'll drive and drop them off. The poor babysitter who had to have the conversation with like with my dad, just like, you know, just, ah, how was your evening? Don't you think that'd be pretty awkward?

Josh: Richie's alright. He just sort of—

Tommy: Been real awkward, I could imagine.

Josh: No, I'm sure he's fine. I remember a babysitter that told us about, and it almost like sort of seeped into my mind. That, um, Terminator 1, where there was a— there's a scene in Terminator 1. I think she might have shown us this film, but I just remember like an atomic bomb going off, and it's like this— it's like a vision in her mind of like someone holding a fence, and the heat, the sort of wave of blast came and sort of like stuck someone on the fence.

Tommy: Do you think you wouldn't have been allowed to watch that?

Josh: Oh, definitely not. But I just remember it was like something that naughty babysitters, you know. It's like, this— it's not— it's—

Tommy: I think that that would be my issue. I would lean into that.

Josh: Oh, but that's— yeah, we would have been—

Tommy: because kids love the naughty babysitter. Oh yeah, my one babysitter— I've told this storey before— but she, um, she'd been instructed that I needed to read my reader. You know what a reader is?

Josh: Well, it's just like, uh, reading a folder.

Tommy: Yeah, it's a folder, and for some reason they put a bit of string Maybe I need to do this with the book club so I actually finish the book. You have to read a certain amount of pages. And I remember she said, no, Josh, you have to. And I stayed up until Mum and Dad got home to tell them in front of her, don't pay her, which is such a— which is such a power move.

Josh: Of course they paid her and drove her home and said sorry about him. Yeah, Seb, have you got any babysitting stories? Did you have babysitters?

Mason: Yeah, I was— I did after-school care, um, but then during the school holidays I remember having a babysitter called Daniel.

Tommy: What's Daniel's deal?

Josh: Daniel, where did Daniel come from?

Mason: Daniel, I don't know. I think he— Daniel, he might have— he might have gone to— oh no, he worked in the aftercare program. That's, that's how we met him. But he used to ride his bike around and home, but he, uh He would bring his Wii around and let us play with it.

Josh: Cool, Dad.

Tommy: Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah.

Mason: So he was great. Like, he— like sports and everything. We'd play PlayStation with him. He'd come swimming in the pool with us.

Tommy: Oh, that's good.

Mason: Take us down to Boondarra Sports Complex.

Tommy: Oh, really? So was that like— Yeah, yeah, yeah. Activities like that.

Mason: Yeah, yeah. Cricket, everything.

Josh: What about tutors as kids? Did you have tutors?

Tommy: Yeah, I remember I really wanted to get these shoes that my tutor had. And they were all white. They looked really cool, but Mum wouldn't let me get them.

Josh: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw one of my tutors out one night, actually. Ignored her.

Tommy: No, I get it. No, there was a— Kathy, like, my mum spent so much, uh, money on tutors, and I would just manipulate the tutor into not doing any, like, actual stuff. Like, I would just sort of entertain them and You have to tell them stories.

Josh: It's so what you do. Even we had, um, Anna come in to work on your scaps. Yeah, yeah, but I just— I walked past a couple of times, but I just heard you just doing keynotes to her, and I'm just like— I said to my— Josh has manipulated her into thinking he's got the best back scap.

Tommy: Yeah, I just— I managed to do everything but any scap work.

Josh: You do well at talking them down.

Tommy: Yeah, but then she was— but then we were talking about it because like somehow in the whole thing we're talking about how I do this.

Josh: Oh, you actually—

Tommy: yeah, so I'm not just making that. So when, um, uh, in school I knew that, uh, Miss Tarok, my teacher, loved Survivor. It was like the first year Survivor had ever come out and she was obsessed. And so I knew that in science I would just say, ah, Mr. Rock, did you watch Survivor? And it would set off like a 20-minute bit where we would just be talking about Survivor.

Josh: And you did it, you knew. It's quite intelligent, to be honest. It's, it's very emotionally intelligent to understand that you can get away from doing the thing that you want to— they want you to be doing by talking. It's like, it'd be— I think the equivalent would be, uh, someone that goes to a psychologist, but it's almost like tell, tells the problem, but here's why the problem. So you're actually— it's this loop where you're never actually working on anything. Well, the, um, it's quite funny. I think it's quite common.

Tommy: I think my favourite bit of manipulation was in high school, was like I would do all the extracurricular activities and then I would get notes from all of the teachers running the extracurricular activities saying that Josh can't attend maths today because he's working on this theatre project or this production. And I had enough extracurricular activities going that every single, uh, lesson— like, I was missing out on so many classes to the point where all the teachers had to be like, well, look, we need to all start talking because Josh hasn't been to maths in 6 weeks because I'll just be doing other stuff. Um, a lot of infighting, a lot of fighting within staff because of it. Yeah, but, um, no, my tutor was, um, uh, yeah, very easy to manipulate. But, uh, but I think, like, who's the joke? The joke's on me because now I'm dumb as fuck. Do you know your times tables, guys?

Josh: Uh, 2s, struggle with 3s, 4s, 6s I'm all right with.

Tommy: 6 6s, 36. Yeah, it's the easiest. 6 7s.

Mason: 42. Yeah.

Tommy: 6 nines?

Mason: 54.

Tommy: 54.

Mason: Yeah, yeah.

Josh: Nah, that's the thing, the recall of them instantly. It's not like I can run through them to get it, but that's the problem. Yeah, but I don't know, how do you need them? I heard on the radio last night this fucking 13-year-old kid who's a chess prodigy, a chess master.

Tommy: I'd love to get— fuck, I want to do that tonight.

Josh: 13, chess master. But like, he's definitely got a few screws that are slightly there, you know, put into some new holes and forms, you know, like he's a genius.

Tommy: Like, have you taken the— have you taken the saying, a screw's a few loose, and then sort of adapted it over here, undone the screw loose and pushed it into this thing?

Josh: Yeah. And it's made him a genius.

Tommy: Yeah. Yeah. Well, the, um, the chess, I think, is a great skill. I'd love to— in that house that I envisage where I've got all the books I'd love to have like a really nice chessboard.

Josh: Can you play chess by yourself? Because that sounds like what you're going to be doing.

Tommy: Yeah, I don't know actually.

Josh: I mean, you don't want to be playing chess, but it's a two-person game.

Tommy: If you had to bring one prop and you'll babysit— I know that Bodhi is your kid, so you don't babysit when you're the dad. It's a big no-no to say that. Um, but if you were babysitting and you only— or you're looking after— you're looking after Bodhi, you can only bring one prop, what would it be to entertain him?

Josh: Oh, I mean, do you want the easy— like, the easy way out is a phone.

Tommy: No phones.

Josh: No phones for Bodhi. Um, a bike. Okay, then we get to be outdoors. Indoors. Oh, I mean, there's any kind of game. He's got like this— he won, he got, which was good, was like hippos that like, or turtles that have this mouth that goes out and eats these balls, and there's 4 players.

Tommy: Oh, that's a fun game.

Josh: And they see her, see how many balls he can get. He'd go, he was on that for ages. But he got from, actually right now, the, the present I said that Michelle, Tim's next-door neighbor, got him.

Tommy: She, oh yeah, what was it?

Josh: So she, she, she said, Bodie, do you want to see your present? He said, yeah. He said, go to the chocolate drawer. He knows where the chocolate drawer is in her house.

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: I'll get Bodie to tell you if you know. So he runs inside, goes to this chocolate drawer. I'm with him, and he pulls the chocolate drawer open and there's a dismantled leaf blower. She's bought him a leaf blower.

Tommy: Bullshit.

Josh: Like a legit—

Tommy: isn't that so lovely? She bought him a leaf blower.

Josh: Yeah, it's so sick because he always steals hers and walks around. Is it like a kids version? Nah, adult one. And so it's the exact one that she has, and he walks around And he says, he looks over and says, Daddy, say, say hi, Street Sweeper. That's what he tells me to call him.

Tommy: Okay.

Josh: Hi, Street Sweeper. All right. And he's out the front. And so he's done the garage, he's done the, the night, like out in the front, and he just loves it.

Tommy: Were you offended when I said that I think Bodie's going to be a generalist?

Josh: It's quite funny.

Tommy: Well, because I was thinking about it, because he's very like He was jumping off things. I was like, I'd be quite a good stunt person. Or he's not necessarily— it's not like, oh geez, he's obsessed with skateboarding or obsessed with motorbikes or obsessed with one specific thing. But one thing he likes to do is get physical and get like injured and tumble and do all that. And so I want— as a— there's a generalist role potentially for him.

Josh: But there's— my brother is the guy that's good at most things.

Tommy: Would you call him a generalist?

Josh: Oh, but then are you a generalist if you are an expert? Better than, better than most. Like go-karting, he'd nail all of us in fucking, uh, what else is there? Any, like bowling, really bowling, he'll nail us.

Tommy: I want to, I want to verse him in all these things. Could we do a whole— is this Mikey?

Josh: Yeah, Mikey. You— I mean, the things where, the things where he's probably more general, like snowboarding he's okay at. Like, I reckon I'd caning him in that, skateboarding caning him in that, but he's still good at all this shit. Okay, but there's like the—

Tommy: like if you're playing, what do you think? What do you think I'd beat him in?

Josh: Um, oh, nothing physical, nothing physical, anything, anything digital. Um, no, so that's the thing, I don't think you'd be able to beat him in like 10— if you went to any goal, 10-pin bowling, I could Beat him. The thing is, he's too competitive and he's too like focused and he's, and he's, and he's, he's too just like, like, like, I would love to do general at some, at a good level of most things.

Tommy: I would love to verse him. That's something fun that I like. His availability, do you reckon just on a, on a weeknight he could go bowling with me if it was content?

Josh: Uh, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure he would.

Tommy: Could we hook that up? I know, uh, I've got a, um, a bowling place in mind.

Josh: Where, whereabouts is the— the smaller one?

Tommy: So there's the city one, the people who does— yeah, the people who do, um, uh, Holy Moly. Is it Strike? I think it's Strike.

Josh: So Holy Moly is a different thing, but Holy Moly's the, uh, mini golf. It'd smash you in really.

Tommy: But the potentially, but I reckon he would.

Josh: That's another thing, he's like good at golf.

Mason: He's good for mini golf.

Tommy: Yeah, you take, you take either one, he'll beat you at both.

Josh: All right, well, like, unless you say you're really good at golf, it'd be good to do some form of driving range.

Mason: George wants to do golf.

Tommy: We can do that. That's right, but George is shit at golf.

Josh: A golf day would be great. I mean, he just had driving range.

Tommy: Fuck, we need to do a driving range. When could we do that?

Josh: There's plenty of these around. Oh, So let's, um, yeah, we could do that. We could do a bunch. We could do it all in one day. Driving range, um, it sounds almost like a, um, 13th birthday party.

Tommy: Bachelor party.

Josh: Oh yeah, yeah. So we can add drinking in.

Tommy: Yeah, why don't we do a, um, a party? Because I, I haven't had birthday parties since I was 21.

Josh: You had a 21st?

Tommy: Yeah.

Josh: What did you do?

Tommy: Can't remember. No, just people came over to my house. But what about who? I mean, we could do it as part of 97's birthday week.

Josh: That's too far away. You're only 21 this year, kid. Wow.

Mason: Yeah, big 21.

Tommy: What could— Yeah, what could you ever—

Josh: Have you ever had a birthday party?

Tommy: No, no, no.

Josh: Okay.

Tommy: Daily Talk Show Olympics, says Jake. I love it.

Josh: Yeah. And then we get—

Tommy: So when's the Olympics on, Sev's? We can't call it the Olympics because they get very upset with that sort of thing.

Josh: They'll sue us.

Mason: Friday, 24th of July to the 9th of August.

Tommy: Okay, yeah. Where is it? Where is it going to be this year?

Josh: China. It's a problem. Really? Fucking thing, coronavirus. If it continues.

Tommy: Is that—

Mason: Is it Tokyo Summer Olympics? Japan?

Josh: Yeah, it's not gonna be a problem. It's gonna be all good.

Tommy: So that whole— that China bit was—

Josh: well, someone was telling me about surfing and related it to China.

Tommy: I remember they were saying that, you know, we heard surfing in Japan. Yeah, Tokyo.

Josh: I got China on the mind. I was speaking to a guy, um, one of the parents at the— at my son's party. Quarantined. He quarantined himself. He came back, he worked it for business over China.

Tommy: Third birthday.

Josh: No, but he still had to pay daycare fees at the other place. And be in his house. I don't know how big his house is with his wife and daughter who's Bodhi's age for 2 straight weeks not leaving.

Tommy: Does travel insurance cover that?

Josh: I don't know. I don't know.

Tommy: Can you type in, Seb, does travel insurance cover coronavirus quarantine? The, I mean, the craziest bit about the whole, um, Uh, the coronavirus thing is this whole bat blood thing, which is saying—

Josh: they're saying that's where it's come from. Yeah, yeah, Conspiracy Jimmy's been on to me about this, sending me, uh, rats eating bats. It's fucked. I saw a video of it, it's horrid.

Tommy: So my mum, uh, she was saying, ah, this lady at her work is a big conspiracy theorist. She doesn't really spend much time on the internet, so I wonder like where the lady gets these.

Josh: There's a few knocking about about coronavirus.

Tommy: Hit me. Yeah, so the coronavirus, the big one that mum was saying this lady was saying was, um, there was a few— fuck, there was one about the— ah, so the lady said, for once, for one thing the lady said was, um, we've got the cure for cancer. And she said, I was like, uh, vitamin B19 or something. That's like the cure to cancer, but they don't want to tell you because there's a lot of people that make money from that.

Josh: So there was a woman at your mum's birthday that knew—

Tommy: No, no, this was— No, no, no, this was at the— her dental— like, mum's a dentist.

Josh: Oh, mum's dentist.

Tommy: Okay, this is her work.

Josh: Yeah, yeah.

Tommy: And so the lady said that. Then she also said that the coronavirus was created because China was worried about all the shit that was happening with, um, uh, I guess like the Hong Kong stuff, like just a movement, a bit of a groundswell of students starting to, um, maybe push back on the, um, the government. And so by creating the coronavirus, they were then able to stop everyone from doing that. Have you heard this? Uh, this is absolutely a conspiracy theory, obviously.

Josh: Yeah, the other one is America has released it, something to do with slowing them down around the trade, trade war, trade agreement stuff. Is that— what else is there?

Tommy: It's pretty fucked up.

Josh: They're just coming, trying to control the trade war. Well, that's— yeah, that's exactly what I said to the person that told me that. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

Mason: But this is their economy as well.

Josh: It's ridiculous. It's, um—

Tommy: I mean, the one thing that I find difficult is like people joke about it, but there's like a lot of people that fucking dead. But not only that, if you think about it, if it was in Melbourne, it was the exact same. If you flipped it on its head and it was in Melbourne.

Josh: Quarantine.

Tommy: How pissed would you be if you lived in Melbourne about the way that sort of a bunch of people have like joked about the whole thing? Like, I feel like they can sort of be tied up into this dehumanising thing around like, oh, it's hahaha bats. Yeah, it is pretty fucked up.

Josh: Like the bat thing. Yeah, who knows. Um, the— yeah, it is serious. What was I gonna say? I can't remember.

Tommy: We're both a bit tight.

Mason: Bianca says, first Iran, next China. Josh is getting cancelled.

Tommy: I'm not getting— Bianca, unless you're cancelling me, I'm still on.

Josh: Oh no, no, no, sorry. I was telling you guys about, um, Daniel Andrews put up a post about how Chinese restaurants, Chinatown in the city Glen Waverley, Box Hill, really fucking struggling, like severely struggling, these restaurants, because people are not going there and not eating there. I think we go and have some Chinese for Fat Fridays, something we actually— but we're going to go sit in.

Tommy: Why don't they? Because of the 30%?

Josh: Oh no, because it's— yeah, well, it's showing people that it's fine.

Tommy: Is it?

Josh: Yes, that's the thing. It's like, it's dumb.

Mason: More safety measures than ever, probably.

Josh: Well, no one's actually—

Tommy: what is the safety measure of someone coronavirus though?

Mason: Safety measure that they have to take, or as in there's potentially more safety precautions when it comes to like the handling of food and who's doing it?

Tommy: So is that what they're worried about? Are people worried that there's—

Mason: No, I think they're just—

Tommy: Aren't they worried about—

Mason: It's a bit of a— I think it's a bit of a racist thing. Yeah.

Josh: And so you're not going in there, but if you were to worry about getting— It's like someone worrying about being on a plane that they're going to die on the plane. It's statistically they're gonna die in a car before they die on a plane. And so the chance of getting coronavirus by going to a Chinese restaurant is fucking ridiculously low. But that's the connection people make— Chinese restaurant, fucking coronavirus. But it's even the Chinese population as well. So the, the thing about race— sure, there's probably some fucking racists out there that are using— connecting the Chinese people and coronavirus, But then there's also people in the community that are like, I'm not fucking going anywhere. But the point is we should, we should support the businesses.

Tommy: I'll be honest, I don't eat Chinese food much.

Josh: I've been craving it, to be honest.

Mason: Really? I don't think I've really had Chinese food.

Josh: Lots, of course, mate.

Tommy: Well, no, the thing is that we had Mexican Cantina the other day. It was delicious. I reckon the last real, the last Chinese place that I remember going to, Chinese restaurant, It mustn't be the last one, but Endeavour Hills, like going back maybe 15— fuck, it would be longer than that, 20 years. No, I was young enough that I worked out— I got a deep fried ice cream and I saw that they'd lit the ice cream, you know how that's like on fire? And I was like, oh, how do they do that?

Josh: And it was like vanilla essence, I think, back in the day when it was Yeah, there was alcohol.

Tommy: Yeah. And so I just remember going home when Mum left and I'd put vanilla essence on the pan and go, oh geez. And then Mum would go, what smells like burning? Um, no, that was real fun. Yeah, but I, to be honest, like, um, yeah, not much of a Chinese restaurant guy.

Josh: I, I just remember as a kid there was a Chinese, it was one of the only takeaways, like if you think about it, years and years ago They were the leaders in pizza takeaway. Pizza, Chinese food. Like, think about it, it was Chinese restaurants doing your own delivery.

Tommy: You told the storey with your dad.

Josh: Oh yeah, my dad took his pot down to the Chinese restaurant to get takeaway. They were more progressive back then than they are now.

Tommy: Well, the, um, I was watching the, uh, Papa John's. You know who Papa John's is?

Mason: No.

Tommy: Do you know what Papa John's is? Papa John's is a pizza—

Mason: I've seen this.

Tommy: It's a pizza establishment. Anyway, is it up there with like Eagle Boys or like Domino's?

Josh: Yeah, yeah, it's a, it's a chain.

Tommy: And they, uh, anyway, he was taught this— the founder, he loves pizza, and, um, he just like off, off the cuff was like, oh yeah, you know, I have 8 slices a week. He was sort of talking as if that was a lot of pizza.

Josh: It's gonna be really one family.

Tommy: Yeah. Got me really thinking about my habits because I've, um, pizza's been my go. Because the funny thing is he also said, oh, you know, pizzas are really nutritious, you just need to watch how much you eat. I think that's a little bit of a contradiction. Yeah, they're really, really good.

Josh: They have nutrients within them, lots of them. So much, so, so much energy that you, you gotta watch how much of them you eat.

Tommy: No, but, um, no, Chinese Chinese food, I don't know, it's definitely not my first, first thing. You know the whole, um, what's the wheel, the lazy Susan? Is that still a thing?

Josh: Oh yeah, at Chinese restaurants. Um, we— I went to— I wonder how Flower Drum's going. It's like a high-end Chinese food, but let's do it.

Tommy: Uh, Blinky Bill says deep fried ice cream isn't quite Chinese.

Josh: I know, I know, that's the one thing— that's the one Chinese dish you— or one dish you mentioned you got from a Chinese restaurant. Fried rice would be— I remember eating fried rice with the little prawns in it.

Tommy: What, is there no connection between fried ice cream and what, they just had a fryer and wanted to diversify?

Josh: I don't know, Thai places do that too. Like, Thai— depends on where you're getting it from.

Tommy: Mexican Cantinas started doing that.

Josh: They started doing it, then it's across the board now.

Tommy: I think they had like a chicken— they have a chicken parma there, Sebs, at Mexican Cantinas.

Mason: Yeah, they did. Far out.

Josh: That's slightly modified, I reckon. That's just like the version of Tex-Mex. Bog-Mex. Just like bog and Australian Mexican.

Tommy: Well, there's a— I love it. I love Mrs. Palmer's. It's been a while since I've been there.

Josh: Mate, I can't talk food anymore. I'm too hungry. Yeah, I want dinner now. We haven't even eaten dinner.

Tommy: Well, before we go, we've got people joining us on the live stream.

Josh: Who's on the stream?

Tommy: Who's on the stream, guys? You guys should do yum cha.

Josh: Yeah, that'd be great.

Tommy: You can eat— or you can eat Fat Fridays. That's a great idea.

Mason: That'd be sick.

Tommy: Um, support the businesses, he says.

Josh: Do you know one, Jake? Let us know.

Tommy: We got it.

Mason: We got an email from GFC24.

Tommy: GFC24, Global Financial Crisis 2024. Good year.

Josh: Good year.

Mason: Uh, fan from the UK. I stumbled upon the podcast after listening and watching Matt Diavella's work. Thought I'd give this a go and have been loving it since. Haven't listened to a daily podcast before this one. So now I never have to listen to the radio again. Good chat and guests, can't ask for more. Keep up the good work.

Josh: Converting.

Mason: 5 stars.

Josh: Fighting the good fight.

Tommy: That's great.

Josh: Thanks, GFC.

Tommy: Good one, Mr. 97, great reading.

Josh: Thank you. It's patronizing, I think.

Tommy: I wasn't meant to be.

Mason: Uh, feedback for next time.

Josh: Um, real-time feedback on Mr. 97's reading.

Tommy: I think I, I don't have any criticism because to be honest The, uh, but also, so, uh, we don't have time to talk about it, but—

Mason: oh, here we go, the book club. So we can just do a quick little—

Tommy: I'll grab it. Okay, you don't need to go. Okay, just grab the book. So what I'm thinking, just don't, don't knock that. Geez, you love to jump around, don't you? So, um, oh, it's a bit squashed, isn't it? It's been in my bag. Um, You're Not Listening is the book, and that was, um, this, uh this month's book club. The aim of the game is— I'm really pissed at how that's— this is the problem. Is there a trick to putting books in bags? Bags?

Josh: Just don't put them in bags and don't read them. Leave them on the bookshelf and they'll be fine.

Tommy: Do you reckon that would help?

Josh: Yeah, you need a laptop bag.

Mason: Well, because if it's in a little thing, then it's not going to have the— like, it's not going to bend and stuff.

Tommy: Anyway, so we're going to finish this book and I really want to get the author on.

Josh: We're gonna get there.

Tommy: I was thinking that we can get, um, George to do a little edit of us mentioning it, and I can present it to her, like, email and say, hey, would love to have you on.

Josh: If she was on 3AW Radio, she'd come on out.

Tommy: ABC.

Josh: ABC Radio.

Tommy: Yeah, definitely. But I've got the, um, the title of the next book that we're going to—

Josh: oh, hang on, you can't read that out now. We're going to get through.

Mason: How many— no, no, how many pages are you on? Um, we're meant to be at 100 today.

Tommy: Yeah, nearly there. 79?

Josh: Oh yeah, you get there tonight and then this week you could do like an individual piece outside of the show that's around that.

Tommy: And so I think that'd be great. And the other thing— can I just tell you what the next book is because people need to buy it?

Josh: Absolutely not!

Mason: No no no no no no no, drip feed it, you can do it on the 25th.

Tommy: Okay, can I give a little hint?

Josh: Nah.

Tommy: Okay all right, now that's fair enough.

Mason: You say who recommended you or who you found the book from.

Tommy: Um, Michael Bungay Stanier.

Josh: Oh yeah, you've told me that, but don't— you don't need to.

Tommy: Yeah, he mentioned it, which his book comes out on the 29th, which you should go buy.

Josh: George just said gonna need some better content to show her. Ouch, George. See you Wednesday, bro.

Tommy: Uh, all right, it's The Daily Talk Show. Uh, hi@thedailytalkshow.com is the email address. If you enjoy the show, give us a review on Apple Podcasts, it's appreciated. Also, uh, if you are on Instagram Go now, take a screen grab, maybe even take a screen grab of the live stream if you're watching live, if you're getting quick enough, and, uh, and tag us, The Daily Talk Show, to let people know that you're listening or watching wherever you are in the world. Otherwise, uh, we'll see you tomorrow. See you guys.