- September 28, 2019
It’s Weekend Banter and we’ve got Gemma Watts and Peter Shepherd with us. We chat about the AFL grand final, entering into a billy cart racing event, famous family members and disordered eating.
On today’s episode of The Daily Talk Show we discuss:
– Pete’s TEDx talk
– Having siblings
– Looking after plants
– The AFL Grand Final
– Billy cart racing
– Famous family members
– Gemma’s perfect day
– Disordered eating, counting calories & diets
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We got Queen gronk back in the building Gemma watts and pay the shipping gronk that lets you somehow get short,
you're always gonna be told he did a whole TEDx talk about having to deal with being a tall guy he's very
on brand was I told him?
Can we talk about that? Sure. That was amazing. It was very well, so the gronk squad went to support page shepherd. I mean, if we had all of the gronk showed there that we would have filled the whole venue, to be honest. But Matt, you smashed it? This is what I didn't know about the TEDx stuff was Ted. Right? You You see these videos? You see, Renee Brown, that's where she did her first talk that sort of
shorter up. Wow, I was gonna say trajectory. Yeah, he's shot. Good stratosphere, which that got so many so many visits, a TED talk. And then and then they what I worked out from this event, because I didn't know was that they licence out TEDx, to all these people were so universities and things around the globe. And then they get all these, you know, helpers to come and put on these events. So there's like a real investment into putting on a TEDx event. You don't do it, because you want to make cash. You do it, because you want to spread ideas. And so your microphones very close to your nose. So I'm getting a fair bit of
Sorry, guys. That was literally, it was, yeah, every time he took a breath, yeah.
I'm working on my nose
breathing, breathing, and said, there's one thing about the TED brand is it's super strong. And I've seen a few people that have really lead with it. As soon as I've done it, is I front centre, business, cat, link, you know, LinkedIn, there's one guy in particular, I watch the song, and I was great. So it's almost I mean, your talk was great. So put it in your LinkedIn, business, guys. But so how do you get the coal up to do a TEDx talk? It's a
good question. It was, I think, from memory that I reached out, or they reached out to me and said, we're running this event, there's an application process. So you have to pitch your idea, submit a form and an application. And then you have like a phone interview, essentially, because to your point, Ted a super predictive of their brand. So those running the event, those running TEDx have to present it in a certain way, they have to have people that they've veto, they have to have IDs that are interesting, and then they have to run the events in a way that is in alignment with the TED brand. So there's sort of a pretty exhaustive process to go through. But ultimately, I was asked to be on the stage eventually. And it was fun shortlisted put on
the stage. And so you get what's that phone interview, like what he
was talking to? I'm talking to him. today. No, know that you don't get that phone call. There's this guy called?
it was tough. It was really, it was anxiety inducing. But it was a 20 minute phone call was like, tell us about your idea. And have you spoken about it before? Have you done much public speaking and like, what does it mean to you to speak at TED and that kind of thing? Well, he's all American. Yeah, that was the organisers that ran the uni Melbourne event. So they would have been there on the day.
Um, what was your take Jim are on the TED talk.
I loved I stayed for the whole day. Did you?
Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I watched yours, Pete and I left. I mean,
it was handy that it was first so you could do that. Right. Yeah.
Because I hadn't seen my son and my wife.
Yeah. I mean, I was thrilled that you guys were even there. It was crazy. And it was
all my it's bad. Yeah.
Yeah. And we had cookies like, well, the left your
rubbish behind. I actually love cookies by move. To be clear, it was a bit of a bystander thing, because who brought the cookies?
No, I brought the cookies and I left first. And I was like, here's the cookies, guys. I'm going to go because I don't need them. You guys are staying can eat the cookies. And so then you left the would you just leave them on the stage? I left?
Because I'd already said I didn't want the cookies. I just
I didn't get any cookies.
I moved to say
yes. It's always nice and to blame it on.
Anyway, it was very What does Ted stand for doing AI? technology, entertainment and design, I believe. Where do you fit into
this imposter syndrome? missing?
Technology entertainment. I mean, I didn't know that. That was a thing. It was an acronym. I guess they've just buried that because they it's any bread like you lead with the thing? Are we gonna talk about technology entertainment design? This is a bit bigger than we thought.
Yeah. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Niger. More than chicken. One case. Yeah, chips. What was your favourite talk there, Jim. Outside
of PR. I liked all of them. I liked that guy was talking about sex. That was really good. And then also the founder of Connors run. She was amazing. They were all amazing. But I liked the sex one. No, no.
Yeah. I mean, he just shows line. She was.
Yeah, she was but what does that mean that what is it? Like if it's
not there? Oh, that's right, left. Yeah, well, sex is just as much about periods as it is about set, which was the new thing like she was talking about sexual health in general
normalising the conversation, basically, we should talk more about the things that surround sex because it's the one thing that's universal, and it's like, often taboo, like talking about the fact that 50% of the population in the world have a period once a month, like we don't talk about it. That was sort of the premise that there was
someone who did a sketch of your
Yeah, that was made.
She made like a drawing, not like a spoof.
It was like a little cartoon. Yeah, it was amazing. You should get that printed. jeering
the talk. I thought it was a cookie. Taking notes and that gone high. Yeah. I, I always good at.
Well, I always when I say those things I write the storey I tell is one day, I'll have an iPad Pro. And I will do that you do it on the top. Yeah. But until then. There's actually a, there's a whole industry or a career of doing this, where conferences will hire people to go to the front of the room. Yeah. And they sketch out the whole idea. And so by the end of each talk, they have full present I big infographic crazy, and
and what I loved about your talk, was that it it the end, connected to the start a new thread of it all through. And I thought thought it was really clever. And I liked the dance move where you sort of got into it.
Remember that? I sort of blacked out at one point, and I was like, I don't really know.
And then I put it out on Instagram with the song to stay with it. Can you do to stay anyway? and clever.
Speak on Tick Tock.
So first, first TED talk. I know you've talked quite a bit publicly. How How do you go into actually framing it?
And prepping it? Yeah, it was interesting. Like the whole experience was really interesting, because it's very, what I've found is is very different to a 45 minute keynote, which I've done a few hours before, where you have, literally 45 minutes and the q amp A at the end, usually a 15 minute q&a, whereas Ted is so dialled in, and it's like you've got between 10 to 15 minutes. And the idea that the research that I did, I was basically under the impression that a really good TED talk you can summarise in one sentence. And so how do I create a TED talk that's based around one sentence, but goes for 12 to 13 minutes. And then the other idea that I went into which someone said to me was, it's almost like every lawn has to be treatable. Like every line you have to see and stand it has to stand alone on its own. That's why you're saying hashtag so many times.
suddenly, to maybe twice Oh, it's
actually changed. You change your name after being on our show? I did. I was actually under your garden. So I think maybe sort of bit of a rebrand helped me through the rebrand. So I was to made a pita slash to me to tweet out when I started my daily talk show journey. And I see before you human Periscope, which I think is gronk or gronk.
Yeah. And on how
you had the human periscope.com or whatever the brand. Yeah, let's just sort of
and then what about the memorising of something?
So that that was that was kind of new to me, honestly, in the sense that if I do a 45 minute keynote, it's not like memorise word for word, I have like talking points that I know, I'm going to hit the storeys that I know, I want to tell. But it's kind of and Craig has talked about this on this podcast, it's kind of fluid in the sense that you see the room, you realise that connecting to a certain topic or an idea. And so just a drag race out in the field. It's fun. It's me breathing again. And then you take the you take the storey down there, but where's the TED talk? It was Yeah, it was it was essentially a script. And it almost reversed engineered it, where the you get a head coach, they give you a speaking coach that helps you out? And she said, Can you send me the script for your talk? And I was like, I don't have one. So I did like a 12 minute riff, essentially, which I'd done before on this idea of imposter syndrome. And then I put it through a transcription software and I sent it to her. Or did you allow I cleaned it up a little bit? Yeah, that sounds right. She was like, this is great add to this build on this, but on that, so that was kind of how I started it. So I still started with a riff, but it gave me a transcript. And then I kind of worked off that. And the trick that I had, which I've I used to do way back when was I put key talking points in the shower, like in a plastic slave and hung up in the shower. So every time I was in the shower, I just read through the talking points and sort of tried to distinguish in my head plastic sleeve like one of the ones that you get in like a binder or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did you like my waterproof, you type it up the top? high enough, so the water couldn't quite get it. I just told him. I mean, the talking things interesting because there's different types of speaking, there's them type of speaking. Then there's the stuff that you do gym a lot, which is the emceeing facilitating an event or whatever.
Very good at it. Yeah,
what it is, it's a different it's a different skill. Tony and I are doing an N das event now next week. Nice. And
basically they said hey, Tommy do you want to do and he said only if my mate Josh
the load and, and so um, you know that
Well, I'm glad it's not in the beauty space.
I'm sorry. What?
And so I mean, I'm saying a little bit of a different based because they send you like this is the talking points. Here. I am trying to think of Perry Perry jokes.
Dying with the Perry
not cry got any you want to try?
Yeah, this would be a good time. Yeah.
No, it's just like
I was thinking of, I really want him to embarrass himself.
That was just like, Who's excited to be here, like, just pump up the audience?
It's not a joke. This has
not been maybe this is time to get some policy advice from the prior.
What does it take to be a master of ceremonies and an endorsement?
I mean, this is the issue. Whenever anyone asks me for advice, I'm like, I'm just naturally very good.
So then what do you do? What do you how do you prepare?
Well, I think for me, it was it nice being on stage.
Which I did a few productions school production. Yeah, yeah. rock song, the whole thing.
What's the process? So don't go into any say you did? Mecca?
Yeah. Mecca land, and you're hosting up on stage? Well, I think the beauty of it for me is that everything I'm doing is beauty. So like, I already know, the brands and the bulk of the time I've got a relationship with who I am interviewing.
So is it to say you don't do any prep?
No, I definitely do prep, but lack to me, like a lot of it is stuff that I've already got in my head. And then to come up with jokes like, No, I don't can't with Joe. No jokes. No. Okay. No, sometimes they just come to me.
What about things like it interacting with the crowd? We get, we're gonna have a group of foodies like food employees.
You guys can.
I can get you invited.
It looks really
my five it should be at Taco Bell. Okay.
It feels like such an obvious one. Is there like a audience questions at the end? You know,
like, bring a bit of vibe, but direct,
I didn't have any mention of vibe.
My favourite emceeing tip, which now doesn't apply is when you throw it to the audience for questions. There's always going to be a silent so have your arms questions up your sleeve. So you can be like, well, I'm gonna kick things off.
Yeah, like, there's not gonna be a q&a. That's
what we want. Yeah. I remember George lon saying, He is the guy that has to he say this speech into his phone, this is probably back in the day to memorise and then play it back to him. Self, which was the advice he gave to me. So I'm thinking it was probably early days in his career. But that's how you memorise. And he needed the structure, he needed to know that he had it all worked out. Where is it that there's a bunch of other people, which I think I've even worked out. I like, so I find it hard to do all the prep. I get like a bit bogged down and a bit, you know, in my head. And then if I have a few things and a few dot points or something, I then can start enjoying the moments that feeling the room and like I think that's what
it's more like if you have to Yeah, yeah, I called the two mistakes I made in court announcing called a guy name has Zeus Jesus, which is an easy mistake based on and the other one was, I would do women's basketball and then a men's game. Yeah. And it was Stephen but it was with the PA. Stephanie. Got a good, good laugh Boston. It's really
high level. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's okay to read. It's okay. Yes, to look down at the name if you want to get a brightly. And so you do think that you're more of a freestyle girl.
What I do is I will
return every time I've
called me Double D.
Josh. Making fun of Josh NK is
sure she's wearing double denim. And she's like,
yeah, they're just a regular day. Um, so
my the prep is to do a whole script and lack fara rated a couple of times have it in front of me, but then I want look at it, but it's just like, nice to know that it's there. But I think for me writing it, like, I'm just very visual. So if I've looked at a whole screen, again, it's the sound like I look at the script, and then I'm like, Okay, I have an understanding of what I need to say.
I think I'm all with you. And I always think of it as improv, which is like you have a few ideas. And you might have a partner which, you know, good improv does, and you kind of just build off each other and just kind of free flow. That's, that's how I think of my work a lot of the time is coaching is about improv, is speaking is about improv is about reacting and asking questions. And I think naturally you do probably practising emceeing by interviewing people on this blog every single day,
which is freestyle, because we don't follow
what's trying to work out what character you're playing. Like you, you playing sort of fun version, because we can have serious conversations and serious questions. But maybe that wouldn't fly necessarily. Fernando's event, but maybe also being super silly. Like to YI straight away, go to kink chicken costume. Everyone.
Like just trying to hold a microphone and Tommy actually has to hold the mic for me because I'm just
gonna read the room though, because like I'm doing an event next week. That will be very, very serious. But then Mecca land. It's like a younger audience. I'm gonna have
with it then the MC it's not you. I mean, usually a good Master of Ceremonies is guiding the event. Yes. So it's not about you. Yes, there you
go. It was a chicken soup. Yeah. What about this as a first one, so this is breaking the ice. But also housekeeping, same time. Who here needs to go to the toilet right now?
No hands up. I'm not doing and then
I say because the toilets are absolutely not bit of interactive.
It's Yeah, it's Do you think it would get a chuckle or No, probably not.
used paper people is not a punch line.
Yeah, well, the punch line is a type of their
I mean, that's more of a
The other option the other option I had was saying to interaction wise. All right. Let's start like we're at Nando's. Let's talk base things. Lemon and herb Who are you?
Can we get the extra Hots? How many extra Hots have we got?
Yeah, I love that. I mean, like, if you were to pull out some unusual facts about Nanos, that'd be kind of like just randomly. This guy knows Okay, Rimando
stores who's like I love Smith's right? Yeah. Oh,
that sort of thing. That could be fun. Or a name like Joe Smith straight always gives me
a workout name. Yeah, I mean, we just make them up.
I, I got. I got asked to MC a friend's wedding. And I said, No. I wanted to enjoy it. I didn't want the pressure. I was just too busy with this shit. It was
it was bad for him. He would only go off it was him saying yeah.
Yeah, that interview was phenomenal. Yeah, he's an absolute legend. He's an
animal. Make gave me a pen for him. Life and I just okay, well.
I gave my one. Tommy Scott. He's, I've got
a study hall, WV studies. My side of water. And
he said, No,
this professional guy said no. And then I went to the wedding. And this guy was so good.
This has been discussed on the show before they brought in around my I'm so
glad I didn't do it. Because it was so professional.
He's a real
MC. just gather gather the Michael. I know.
He does a fair bit of weddings. He also trying to buy your parents.
Yeah, that was my first episode.
Buddy Michael and so yeah, I don't I feel like I'm getting more comfortable with those types of things. Because there's there's a reading the room, but there's also just having fun. Have fun with it as well. I think if people see you to having fun, then they'll naturally so I just need to make sure Tommy's having fun. Yeah. Because there's certain things that I think is funny. Like when he asked me to move the bottle of water, I move it into my
siblings, but you know, there's no friends. You can
sibling older brother and sister yet or you want to throw a punch on? No, no, I was the I was kind of immediate. And my brother and sister used to fight a little bit quite a lot actually. Growing up. And I was like the, the media that you would talk through. It's
the worst. What's the worst thing your brother or sister has done it? You know? Because it's throw pan at your head. And I my brother with a golf club, my brother he'll be down had my arms like this. So he can't he's on top of me. straddling really is now it gets worse. Pete hold my nose. Up. speed. Straight down the big Lou. Just a teenage Louie. straight into my mouth. No. Okay. That's good. What's that? Like? I I've had, like, imagine.
We all got along pretty well.
I literally had like my brother, I'm sure like, on top of me saying I'm gonna fucking kill you.
Isn't it? It's all so bullshit. Yeah, like I'm, I'm here. But yeah, especially three boys taught right? Yeah, it's definitely like we we had heads through walls. Like, wow, like it actually doesn't take much to get ahead through like a plaster. flow, especially when beds are up against when you kid you'd have like your bed brought against the wall.
What Yeah, what was it? So so be like,
Oh, my goodness, as a kid.
We were UT our from the age of 10.
Yes. And my dad used to I used to make him go on all fours and black, seen on his back. And he would have to take me to bed and tipped me over and banged my head on the bedside table. And that's my two front teeth. Oh, it's fine. That would lose money for it, though. This
was the first round he's a $2 p 02. dollars per tooth. We we literally spoke about that on Thursday. Oh,
well, Christmas 97 GCL that two backs. And I was I was that the number zero.
Maybe early on. I was too.
I think mine was only child
an investment property.
I've got a new pet peeve. Which is, which I should take a leaf out of your book paid. It's it's being on the phone. So it's like space, speak to a friend have this. I'll give you this example. Just on the phone to Amy. And having a chat. And I got a call coming through. And from a number. I don't know. Yeah, programme answer it up. You know, when you've got a business. I think just having your business means that you might need to take a call and disagree. That isn't yours. So you
feel the same way.
Which is why only Tommy's number is on the website because it used to be my notes. I will actually do I had a number that I purposefully like was a Skype number that I didn't check and then we're like, well, if we're gonna have a number we should at least
Yeah, probably my numbers on there. So Tommy gets calls that the worst is when you stop a nice conversation, and it's a fucking teli market.
That's a new pet peeve. No, no, but I just it today as you spin on the pit, you
know, but for me, it's like I had it. I was on the last straw.
You didn't talk to him? Did you just hang up? Hang up,
hang up on him, which was annoying. voicemail, but I just disrupted the moment. It's with me wife.
Yeah. So we're
able to find time for another moment. No, but
I mean, this is where there should be a rule. Do you have a rule of not answering so you don't
see if I feel like it? I answer when Josh goes I love to chat to Joe.
Yeah, we do enjoy that call
for one thing the other night like 45 minutes later. I'm like,
I gotta I was going through
the reason I was saying I was saying to a mate, just yesterday, I won't go to your birthday party. Like the other people will not so they will always take a phone call. Yeah. Which can be annoying for like, even this morning walking in. And I was talking to nice on my maid and I get one for like 45 minutes once I was here sort of doing stuff, Brian Love, love, love. a pause in just walking into going to talk Yeah,
I sit down and have a chat.
That's fine to hear. A fine to me is no Fotolia Yeah, really? Wow. It's not great. I always feel
my cup on everything.
That's fine. Even if Bry has her phone near me. I feel like I can feel it. Anyone else have that? Especially if it's new the testicle area? I'm sure I definitely know but i can i think that i don't know whether it's like a placebo sort of thing. I know. Like but sometimes I say is your phone near me right now? And she'll just like yeah, I could feel that
there's also heat coming off it but I know you've been
laptop on lap lap you feel it?
It doesn't feel like the radiation a sort of feeling that similar one could almost feel if she was getting a text message. Your fibroid was just on
Definitely not. There's a big difference between ticks and testicles. Okay, it just it seems a lot like
every time potentially.
It is a daily talk show.
Pete you're flying to New York. Fucking lucky.
Yeah, tomorrow hasn't packed have not packed no up that's what the stuff that it's for figure it out. And I am going to challenge myself to do carry on only
No, Easy. Easy, right? Definitely easy. I did when I went to New York LA.
Yeah. You just have someone else that carries all you should know.
I had. Like I had I had all my cameras set up. Like
so much better.
Taught Neil has like 25 to 30 Yeah, yeah, I mean, you do where the still similar thing.
With five of the same t shirt, a few pairs of pants, a few pairs of shorts.
Trying to get you doubled enemy and that's a full bag. Yes,
it's also denim is heavy on a good pack. But like the the mobility, it's just so appealing to me where you live, especially when you get to LA or you get a JFK Airport you straight through and everyone's standing there looking miserable waiting for their luggage and I'm just
gonna have to try.
New York. What are you doing there? working
for a couple of weeks. So catching up with a
pretend I'm a customs agent,
customs agent? Or if you're a customs agent. Friends, what are you doing?
Friends? Yeah. The thing is, you know, just also try it. You're not getting paid by any US company. Why are you there specific? Yeah,
fine. Of course. I'll say Josh is also getting you on the right track. It's good. This is good
practice. Next time I
when you go to the states it is me being Gemma nice. The
girlfriends got to
the modelling. I'm guessing Rob.
Could be say the card kind of modelling
or model smuggling and
where everyone's gone? We can't they were not all my friends.
are non model friends.
Sorry. Well, they asked, What are you doing here? Because I don't want people over there working. We have phases, which makes sense. But I mean, you stand out and you just put a smile on
if I got Ozzy?
Yeah, the Australian guy. Yeah, I'm sure to visit friends.
Let's say you going to visit friends? Yeah.
Which I can't to be clear that you can if you are working and not getting paid by US company and you are just like you can go to conferences, you can do business meetings. Yeah. Which is what? I've said that multiple times. I'm here for business. Whatever.
The end, if you find it LA and you talk like the movie stuff, it's a bit different. Because like, it's where you might be trying to land a job listing. Yeah. So it's, it's even worse, like I'm a musician. Yeah. All right. Why are you here? Yeah. were you saying?
He was saying, I've got a few places. So I'm starting in a hotel, which is right near one of my friends houses where I'll be doing a lot of non work related conversations. And then I'm actually I'm
sitting for a friend. It's 10 days after that in Long Island City, which he's got this amazing apartment on the other side of the river that overlooks Manhattan.
Oh, it's ridiculous.
doesn't have any animals. You have to look after no plants. So he's fiance is like, she's called the Broadway botanist. And she's like a Instagram account. Yeah, yeah. worldwide. Partners. Yeah. So it was like next level in, you know, indoor plants and design of people's environments, basically. And so her house their apartments covered, it's amazing covered in all these greenery. So I have to look after all of that. So I'm a little bit nervous about that.
Yeah, the rule is you look after I'm giving them a bit of cash to, but not not as much as the hotels in New Yorkers. So
it's ridiculous. And the
dollar and the dollar. dollar is awful. Broadway, Shonda. And so if they said any other boundaries, no, that's it. As far as I know, they've been they've been having dinner with them, like two nights before. So I'm sure I'll get the ground rules there. But as far as I know, it's keeping the plants alive, essentially. Feels like a bit of pressure.
And the hanging out with Seth Godin.
I'm going to probably spend some time up with Seth Hastings. Yeah, and your catching up with Brad blanks. HQK Yeah, it'll be perfect. You know with him next week in regards to plants. Brain is trying to keep her arms alive. Yeah. How's that going? It was difficult the first time they died. And it was because Bry push the plant in the fridge. Why? I gotta keep it cold or whatever I might be a part of it died. It died. It was like, so that was like it was a whole plan with like, like, I'm in the fridge. I was just like, what are you doing? It's like, I gotta keep it cold. I'm like, No, I think next time let's put it in the sun made sunlight.
I mean, I don't know a lot about plants but I'm
it doesn't seem right doesn't know. I think she said this specific ones are either need to stay cold.
is here the month but
they survive out
with this not yet. So I don't think that that was a big job that died. That was a basil. And Brian just said basil is just really hard to keep alive. That's very lame. Especially when you put it
Neither. This is the problem. Basil is like the cost of delivery. Like it's quite expensive. I love it. That was easier for you to say than $5. Which delivery? Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, yes. I on Fridays, we did the monopoly the McDonalds. That is like childhood memories of that guy. Nice.
Yeah, but it's not like childhood. That's the thing paid. Yeah.
It's not how it used to be.
It's not to assume you have not won any.
Well, it's not Sundays. It's not fries. Free cheeky. It was awesome. cheeky little cheese. cheeseburger. Yeah, I used to win so many fear free cheesy. I really do that. Well, they used to take a very loose back in the day you'd pass over your little voucher, and I just throw them underneath it. Till Yeah, I can. Loose loose hands over here. Just make a whole stack of so I've got Sunday. I've got Jackie's shake. Then I even had friends who work there that would hand them back to me now. He's a bit of a scumbag like that. whiny little fucking rubbish in a TED talk.
I didn't bring the rubbish.
You really good point.
No, it's not actually that. So anyway.
Yes. Sorry. I brought
Yesterday my shot the guy in the head. But he gave me the fact. Look. That's what you said. That's not what I said.
That the monopoly thing. 20 $20 Amazon voucher I want. Okay.
Sounds good. Right. I mean, not really.
Sure is such a
pain, bitch. So I thought 20 bucks. That's awesome. Minimum end of $79. So for me
that's horrible. Yeah, it's it's not ideal. So anyway, I feel like we did the whole thing on the show where we use the app. It's all very you
know, when you used to say nice man nice a
nice no pain. No pain. No say no pain. No se
but it's gonna change very soon. With advertising and things like that.
I know. That's exciting. Yeah, that's good. What else is happening? The foot is on Grand Final you excited? Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, I'm
scarf in my bag. But
I mean, I don't
like it could have been them there. But you
can rub it in. There was just poor performance on the day. It was a good match.
Yeah, it wasn't really poor performance last night. Very well.
I felt that knee
I think it was a three quarter time with I really dropped the ball.
Yeah. Yeah, it's just what Pete told you on your Walker day. No, no,
actually, I've watched this starting to all combine. But did they play GWS know? Who did JWS play Collingwood? Yeah, they fucked up to
punch that a heap of gold. And then still couldn't get through? Yeah,
that was a good game actually.
Actually. Do you think JWSO actually we know now IK up against and much emphasised
originality. It's Richmond's to lose is what I think Richmond's to lose that mean by a winner but they'll be the ones that lose it if if they lose it it's on them like that
No, we have an annual grand final day party at the White House or don't believe you're not going
no no what's the drink of choice
I'll be on them is on the big bowl of French
this food but what we do I when I was very little to get me to walk around with black a hash and the like the pies and stuff on it
and now as an adult woman I'm still doing
shit Phase Two Faced
Can you take a photo so I can put it on the
call? How many people coming over?
I have no idea cuz Tommy lives close by
it's actually great. I've got some friends coming in for a spa because you know I've got this bad do now is the spotlight on the spot this morning was real. I got up before work that happens I get up at 530 push the 540 had a deep windows day they did a meditation I was like I'm gonna have a spot so whenever I myself I just fold it over half so I didn't take off the full thing took note in my spa so God is incredible. I'm actually going to transition to now meditation the spa yeah the spa because your arms go white what you know there's the weightlessness is experiencing weightlessness is floating and so I'm just going to meditate in the spirit doesn't cancel out the straps isn't rinsed off and I just feel like a spa yeah that is but in fairness the spa it's not like the old school chemicals like you don't
you don't know because I smelling in the draught of your house and
did you really jump the fence?
But I know exactly where it is.
Right now. Can you see the spire on Google Maps?
Ah, maybe those people with the hard rubbish in your straight effect gone? It looked like someone It was like an entire house my thing was probably deceased the state yet would have the amount of stuff that was out in the front or a hoarder was one thing
I don't know I didn't tell you very
it was like disgusting ouch
Yeah, mattress. Yeah. Did you do this as a kid in New York where you grew up? He still doesn't drive around looking for hard rubbish in those wealthy suburbs. See that? You spoke about on the show before Vonda?
Yeah, I'm not saying trying to deny me but I'm saying for lane known that over in. In Bondi they do hate so hard rubbish. I would be taking stuff and then selling it on the you know, the North Sydney or when I was at when I was at uni, we used to drive out to Iraq when it was rubbish and like, get skis
and stuff. He would leave skis.
This saddest day of my life was when I came home from a night out so I was like 18 or 19 and my trampoline was on the front lawn. Rubbish dead. Put it down. Yeah, I was like, I'm sorry. No one asked me about this and I will like your grind up.
drag show a dog trampolines?
Yeah, this was a very 1998 so just
a lot of good
pinching the hair shock I mean
we would have full on wrestling matches you remember they get on and it was like you'd be doing what is it like code hanging didn't happen for me
sprinkler and that was
like tag team jumping and
I'm he said recently we should get body like the old school one. You know? Have him learn what's an old school one an old school one actually has the springs eternal spring lyst. Now are there Yeah, they've got walls and stuff. Like you cannot get your hand into the spring area.
Why would you want to give them an old school
so that they can have the resilience of our generation which was an idea not buddy Nikki yourself on the corner? How do you not pinch your your bomb? Maybe this
brain put a seatbelt on him to just real resilience.
I think there's
people as shows off these days. It's
like very good hill on Conan Craig trial that I think you should just put him on. Don't give
it a crack. I'd love it. What about a billy cat? What about the daily talk show?
Old school. Did your dad build one
out there? My my mom knew that if we built one it would be ridiculous and dangerous. But good but our cousin know just like credit just ridiculous. And but cousins had him I just remember going down. You just have remember the rope. You'd be sort of
Article Can you say what? One but I just managed by
a friend who had lived in a flat straight so it wasn't quite as exciting.
Yeah, I live on top of the status till
You said you don't buy but yeah, but if you had a kid you'd have to buy.
Building one right now
is he really? I saw on his Instagram he's trying to build that'd be great
kid. You look it up.
Lazy parents get the daily talk show logo on the responsibility car. I would love that. I think that would be great to have a Bitly car.
The Little Rascals in the last name
yet and I don't know if I've seen little resting
What would they
see on steroids? Thinking of Cool Runnings at first. Definitely ability.
I'm gonna pull this up just run Billy cars BIWL.
A little rest. I've seen sandlot kids many times. Right. Maybe
the little rascals.
I remember the beat of the kids. Hey, alfalfa.
My girl. I love that. Yeah, that broke my heart. I'm scared. So scared of babies. I'm not scared of anything.
Babies. Nope. Just ventriloquist dummies. It's very specific. Yeah, it's called automatic phobia. It's uh, yeah, ventriloquist dummies and wax statues. But wax statues don't get me as much but ventriloquist dummy
T is interesting. The way what's the wax? Me? You're watching? Yeah,
five months ago into the app way. Billy cat rice is good to go. It's on February 23 2020. The big day. I've got sponsors. sponsoring. Yeah, tonight's total five at the time, Matt Matt, we could hook them up. Hundred 90 entries. So the entry cap is 190 entries.
So a lot of building charts down one here.
Man, this is good. Chaos happens in Australia. Yeah, it looks that way. But it sounds they got the.com this is where you start? at YB. Cat reiss.com. That's Victoria. Up up while you could. We could actually into that. That's a good one. Okay, let's
Yeah, I think that'd be fun. I think
I've been December there's the
drop in practice.
says you've got to
the in terms of like, I don't think I'm equipped to build something like this. Derek.
Derek secure today in the world around these oil to
get he should say in his element
night. Do you think that they need a girl to stand at the starting line with me better?
It goes to the chicken.
I think it could be driving.
What about a drive? What about a driver? Would you drive it? You're not scared of anything.
She just sort of we push
pretty funny. Hilarious. Funny. Yeah.
Okay. Perfect. Could we do you think we forget mega sponsors?
I feel like there's definitely something there. Yeah. Okay, great. So what date Do we need to bed? 23rd 2020
Yeah, but entries open the eighth of December. And what is entry look like? Is this where you get a front up some cash? 10 bucks.
I want big paid to give it a good push. Just imagine the legs.
You know, I mean, if you don't need to draw because that could be the longest
river you'd be at the start and the end of the sign.
Did you like that river reference? The the metaphor? Yeah, the river I liked. Yeah. sort of did. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Yeah. I'm really solid. So the post full 40 depending on what happens. What does that look like? Yeah, so what happens if it goes bad? Tigers don't win. Well, it actually put you in a bad mood.
For too long. I'm not spoke about nice things. I've done anything? Um, no. I just I don't know. It's just a nice feeling to win, but I'll get over it pretty quickly. What
would you do if you win? Were you. I remember Swan straight was fact that
that's my like, worst nightmare. I'll just continue to drink at home. The good news is if you lose,
no one's gonna care because GWS have about 3000 supporters so it'll be like nothing happened.
And also I will have already done my face paint Instagram posts that mornings, right? So I'm the real winner. By course,
the thing about if you could always spin it to go if they don't win, which they probably will win. Don't that it's good for that. If they've been around for a year. 10 years. The club has been around AWS has crazy
right? Sure. It was being six months. Went through the season. Like it was like
22,009 was when they first crazy. You remember
the AFL days? 40 days at school?
off my sister this morning. Her daughter My niece was dressed up she's too She was dressed up in like forger long outfit. They had
daycare. Yeah. We probably
my brother was such an attention seeker that he went for Port Adelaide, rather than you?
Yeah. What colour is it? Very beautiful.
The thing is that he he'll blue Yeah, I love that. He'll so nice. teal. Is it too? Yeah, yeah, like a grainy blue. You have to
know Jake went for Port Adelaide because you know, they would get everyone around a circle and then your son would come on and you'd run around.
Oh, we didn't do that. I just walked around. Everyone going? My grandpa won the Premiership. What do you do? Grandpa?
Richmond. Yeah. This
43 was captain. And so it was VFL back to in.
Technically. The job while you was playing
outside of the football, not the money like it is now. No. So what did he do outside of
being a superstar a trade of some sort? I have no idea.
Yeah. My dad employed a few. He employed a Melbourne football club player back in the day like before they could make enough cash. So he was a labourer for my dad landscaping and then he'd play professional 40 on that. It's like podcasting.
One day will be at the MCG in 10 years time, he used to have two jobs as well.
And so what and what was the storey that your family would always tell about your grandpa? What were the like the Premiership storeys.
They didn't really have any because mom's the youngest of the second youngest of seven. So we'd stopped playing when she was like a child. But then everyone in my family plays sport. Most of the men have played AFL, all of the girls play black state nipple minimum and what did you know I played netball in primary school but I was just in it for like the miniskirts. That's not aware of ally Amana mama is a really, really good net bola and she would be at the side of the court like the bowl is coming towards you. And I'm like, What do you make?
Did you any other famous family?
I'm always the famous let's see grandfather.
I mean, back then. Maybe not
any famous people in your family.
My grandfather popularised hyperbaric chambers for use in sport. He was a sports doctor. So he was a sports doctor in the NFL. The f1. Okay, at the cricket, I think, correct me if I'm wrong, dad, if you're watching, and my uncle so his son, he played 41st and kilda and cricket for the MCC. So he's got his name and photo on the wall, the MC say?
It's good to think you like a claim to fame. What do you want your claim to fame? fate? Because whether you have kids or not, you know, like, what's birdie gonna say? My dad
used to do this. Yeah.
He already knows what we do show him. This is pretty good.
As soon as you've got like a name or something on a wall, that's the logo. These names still on the locker a pump ride. So I'm like, I
see. What do you want to be? Simon? What do you what do you want to be known for? Gemma?
I don't know. I actually have no idea. I'm a star.
For you. You're gonna be a star.
I have a lot of star power. I'm not and
I think after be known for anything specific.
I think it's probably a good way to get clear on. Like, it doesn't have to be I want to be a famous movie snob. It's like, what are people know you forward? What do you do you think about that paid? I could
do you think people care more if you can act like I'm not playing and having kids. So I feel like maybe there's less of a feeling of it. Because you're not going to have that moment of telling, like, some time the kids at school
are doing their thing. So you can still be like, what do I want to be known for what I want to be famous for? Like? Yes, what legacy Uncle Uncle, uncle Josh call uncle? Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's, that's what you want to strive for? Cool, man.
Cool. Well, that's why I give birdie biscuits every day.
I just dropped the Vogue profile into every conversation I Australia. So Gemma Watson knows beauty and you'd be wise to take
on it? What would I know?
What about like, Is there one thing, though, like, you can put it down to like visit achievements, like, build something? Have the biggest something
now? I don't know. I don't think that far ahead. I'm just I liked what Zoe was saying. Like, as long as you're doing good work in the moment, then. The rest is fine.
Yeah, I agree with that. I'm
just wanting the biggest, biggest podcast biggest show in the world the best biscuit kingdom?
Like, I don't know about just the word best. Because like you the best biscuit.
Yeah, I don't know. It just feels really lofty
subjective to Yeah, that's what that's what almost makes it What I love about best is because it's so subjective. And so then it's almost like the best version. So we can be the best podcast and show in the world. Based on the very specific thing that we're delivering. Yeah. Which is in Abbotsford on Ferguson, straight with Tommy and Josh, who has a producer, Mr. Nice for that we are the best in the world. And
why does that title mean something to you?
It's more of a posture to go into two situations. With that in mind. So then, what it's what it's really sad. It's an external version of saying do the best that you can possibly do? It means it's like essentially the same thing.
tricking yourself into it.
Yeah, I think that like self talk, like it's the whole imposter syndrome. Thing paid, I reckon, we limit our beliefs. So then if we make them a bit more external and say we want to be the world's best, then we will at the very least reach our limit, whatever that is. Yeah, I think there's like a, there's a happy medium where I feel like self help can be summarised, as most people are capable of more than they realise. And so there's that tension of accepting that acknowledging that and living that, but not getting so attached to success being the thing that's going to make you happy. And the being the best is the thing that's going to make you happy. So it's like this dance. I know you love dance metaphors. It's this dance between the two step at the end of the show. We can do it as a boomerang. So yeah, I think there's, I think there's tension between both is acknowledging that not creating limiting beliefs for yourself. So stepping into this idea that I could probably do more than I'm capable than I realised, but also not being so attached to you know, once I've got success, whatever that means, then I'll be happy then I'm excited then I'll do the next thing. Well, that's not living in the present isn't and that's all
Yeah, but then then there's also like,
Tommy want to make a toast.
What seems to interesting though, is if you don't have a key thing that you should have going for, you end up doing something great or you put in all this work, and something gets picked up as the thing that you're known for. Michael been gay stina you went to a groyne a amazing day.
The last name I always pack up I say stina Dinah's stadia stain your spot STINI more interested in a bum. Yeah, yeah. Sonia.
That's awesome. Yeah, finding great name. That's the name and he was working within a company that invented stuff crust pizza. So like, the crust stuffed? Usually,
yes, the cheese cheese
crust, which I think he was trying to imply that that was like he wasn't doing important work. But I started
the only one in out of how many people were there? at people. Yeah, there was clapping. But anyway.
But I mean, I thought was a cool fact. And I'd like to be known for that. I mean, he's done a lot of great other things, sold 700,000 books, you know, like, crazy achievements. But it's interesting to see. Like, if you go on this journey to wherever you going, there will be things along the way that end up being chosen by other people to say, hey, look at that. You're the guy that did that. Oh, by thing you're the guy, whatever it is, right? Whether you like it or not. And so then it's what are you doing? Because if you get known for the MC gal,
which is pretty much it, it's the beauty as a lack. It sounds really up myself, but in Melbourne, I'm definitely like, at the top of my industry,
which is a good thing. Yeah. So you've you've all you've made that the thing that
Yeah, be No, you are the world's best person in Melbourne, Australia,
but I just don't think I need to be the best as long as I'm doing good work, which I'm yeah. And you
know, it too if we all took that confidence, where we were talking the other day about perfect days, Pete's been able to do he's perfect. It was fun. Because I did
flag with everyone. Not one person has mentioned six in their perfect days.
That is true. I mean, I'm focusing too much on my testicles. I mentioned to you that it was just assumed I didn't have to spell that out.
Okay, well in that case I want
heavy undertones of sex throughout throughout it definitely. But if you don't mention crease
Yeah, yeah. gonna mention him.
Yeah, cuz everyone sort of fucked up there. Um,
so what Yeah, what should I go into a lot of detail.
red brick wall.
So BCV Yeah, and I the next day I had the best day blue sky but yeah,
I would wake up early but not be tired. That's that would be a nice thing.
What's the deal about waking up? Is everyone tired at the moment? No,
I'm good. I can I feel good.
day to day.
No, I mean, I mean, Pete's about to go wide in New York. I'm pretty religious with my sleep. It's like one thing I'll won't sacrifice getting enough sleep. Yes. Same.
I love sleep. I would wake up I'm going to say like maybe six and then I would I would like to be near the beach that go for a swim.
That would be not would the creek do it for you
know, not a crooner Kanan Craig has the highest concentration of a call I
asked, and so yeah,
the syphon me
what's gonna what's a call I'm gonna do to kill you.
It's not gonna do anything good boy from my school. Because we'd all walk home along with Craig he was like, I'm gonna swim in it. Hey.
This is truly the worst idea anyone? Yeah.
What were you thinking buddy? Yeah, it wasn't impressed. He
were What? What suburb in Australia or the world?
I don't know.
Where you can just make it up. Because then it's what you will Yeah, we need to be specific I
would still it would nice to be some were in Victoria because later in my time obviously want to see my friends and family so
interesting. Dan, the mornings and peninsula. You got a beautiful little pad. Yeah, I could do that.
Other sides be a bit further. Like a bit further to get to?
Yeah, I don't I don't really mind. The location doesn't it? Doesn't matter. I'll go for a swim and I'd come back and have a really nice breakfast. Well, we'll have some probably some poker cheese. Maybe lack. Some hour and
I guess the drink? Yeah.
glass of orange juice. I hide orange. Black, long black. Yeah,
obviously. You're perfect. Are we being serious when we
had a conversation? Yeah. Behind you back. Yeah. Why? You're really pushed back on. Like, if someone's making the perfect coffee for you. Why would you have a long black?
Well, I'm overnight like I had an iced latte. Yeah, this morning.
I understand the pushback on the long
actually had a really good long black the other day. I was like, Yeah, I actually think I like a long black more than drip.
If you Yeah, yeah. Cuz it's really it's like a real
there's something else in here. Yeah.
But if you drink it long blacks for 30 days, cross November, October. So once we get movies on the challenge, you just be cool with it. Yeah, it would be like yeah, that's good.
Okay, so long, and then would have been a little mug. When did they put long blacks and a little mug? Always little man, what do you mean? I had a long black the other day.
She was gonna buy however, whatever size if you go to a Bogo one you'll get a bloody bowl. If you go to a hipster one you'll get this little thing that's like hard to pick up.
Yeah, it's like a vomited. Yeah. Whose fingers getting through that?
I can't get this on the big Barrick one that's been a
long black. Beautiful.
Yeah. You know what, this is gonna sound so silly. I would have my hair and makeup done. I find that so relaxing?
I would have that done at the shopping centre or what? So
that would be coming to me. Yes. Um, no, you know what, I'm going to scrap that I'm going to have that later in the day because I'm going to do some work first.
Working with makeup.
Not it's unnecessary. If I'm just sitting at my computer, what sort of maybe I would take one of my cameras out like the old film one. Oh, here we go. Yeah, that would be fun. I enjoy doing that. When it's not like for a client.
I'm just curious on the makeup thing. What's the feeling?
It's just very bad.
It's just so bad. You know? So when you're, you're like it's unnecessary to have makeup on?
Well, I'm not saying anyone at this point. It is it.
So you would if people couldn't see you, you wouldn't do the makeup. I guess that makes sense. It doesn't feel nice on your face.
feels fine. I just, I just don't care. Um, so I might do some work in the morning. And then I'd probably have lunch with Chris. I liked how you will like maybe Chelsea's having her perfect day. And then I like that idea. Good integration. Yeah. So maybe Christmas is perfect. And then we have lunch together.
Then nice to assume that you're a part of his perfect day.
Look at me, I'm then I would like this Taco Bell.
I wouldn't do that. You can do what you want. franchisee
I would go and do like a dance class or something. Yeah, in the afternoon. That would be fun. Like bar. No, no, probably like, probably jazz. Then, like probably find near the coast. It's my perfect day. This dance was everywhere. Yeah. But then I would come back then I would have my hair and makeup done. And then
I'd like 330
Yeah. And then all of my friends would come over like, early ish afternoon. And then we'd have a big party and they'd be dancing and they'd be food. And they'd be drinks and they'd be more dancing. And then it would wrap up early because we started early in the afternoon.
Everything, everything except ouzo Sambuca.
That's pretty much
No, they just I don't like like aniseed. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Around painful.
So then evening.
These were the party goes into the evening. It's what?
You said early finish. Yeah. What time? 930? No, I think for 12 is like four nights out. Yeah. If you starting though at like, 2pm. That's fine. I love it. Danger, you stop. So the problem with this perfect day is what's different is that normally our perfect days are the sort of sustainable thing that we can do every single day.
I don't think that they are. Most of them started with black. I would do one hour of work. And then I would swim.
But that's good. But I just don't know about, like getting your you're having your perfect day. I just think, how many days in a row? Would you have the party with your friends before it would get old? I don't know. Three. Okay. So I get
it. That's how I being around people. When I'm just in my space. That's what I feel like I'm
down. So it could be because there is a bit of a culture of that in like Hollywood or successful singers that just has sort of have an entourage and they'll pay him on. Would you I feel like I could be like that when I'm older. If I had a bunch of coin just sort of to not have to worry about the whole friendship thing. Just like hey, do you want to? What do you like doing? I love driving. I'm sorry. Okay, well, you're the driver.
I have to say, the money's the equation here.
A lot of cash actually paying your friends to do things for you. They're all happy because they're doing what they love. So it's like, oh, yeah, I used to work at a really good restaurant. And now I look after Josh as meals. Yeah. personal chef is so high on the priority list for me a personal chef.
Yeah, the personal chef, I would love that you love cooking? Yes,
I would be cooking everyone. That's what I do. Well, I love the
tables. Of course, you must
have some sort cool. Bond. chicory,
cured meats and cheeses.
So also cod dip, dip, dip, dip. Ah,
should do one of those fat fighters. Amy slowly ruined some of them. again to the point, you know, because you're tearing it off. Yeah. The point where it's just unmute. Do you feel? Do you feel awful once you have that? Of course. Yeah. Drinking 17 beers, as
Josh mentioned, you gotta quit drinking. You were thinking about it?
Yeah, I've been I've been noodling on it thinking about it. Maybe.
Yeah, drinking while you thinking?
Yeah. I think I might have had a couple of ones when I was thinking, just like made you feel good about the whole, like, why do I do it? Do I need to do it? And what would I gain by not doing it? I've been thinking about that for a while. Yeah, my brother's got a rule this year. He has been talking probably for like 10 years, I reckon about not drinking, because he went pretty hard growing up. And so he's got this role with his partner now where they only are allowed to drink
outside of Australia. So when they're on holiday, they'll have a vagabond, he's travelled every So this year, it's been a lot of places. But so he bought a boat
to drink. What so they don't drink in Australia. But when they go on a holiday, they're like, yeah, let's have a wine, that sort of thing. I think that's a pretty cool room. I like that. I love that. How are you going with it?
Yeah, really good. It's, but I'm trying to work out I need a rule because I like that one. I've been thinking I was thinking I 8020 rule. I was like, what's it 20? On? 365? Way too many days that I could drink? Yeah, what see it 20 rule on 52 weeks, which works has to be about 10 the exact same
equation got shot.
That's not. So I'm just saying if I was only to ever drink on weekends, so I did it every day, then it 20 of it every day. And so once it's fucking 60 something dies off during the year, the week, which was like, that's too many, because I don't want to go 52 weeks. And if I just go weekends, was it 20 rule of weekend? Yeah, sure. Yeah. It was just a bit overcast around it down to 10. And then I was like, Yeah, I mean, that could work out of 10. I can drink on only on weekends, and it can be 10 occasions across the year, right and drink 10 times doesn't matter when Yeah, only 10 times in a year. We could do like
only on Fridays, or something like that. So yeah, and then there's a 52 just do a few but
then I like that the overseas role.
Yeah, that's been his role. So the thing I don't like about the overseas role is that you and I will do a lot of overseas stuff with the dough talk show.
It doesn't matter. I'm getting fact I have to. Like I was drinking in Central Park. Some guy came out with the survey says when he bought a little Corona, which was really nice
to blow up because
you were really exhausted, not sort of thing. And we went to Chinese tuxedo and you're like, Man, I'm so fat. And then Eddie Buckingham lovely guy was like, come on down for a drink. And then Tommy's all sudden.
You're such as fucking suck and couldn't even do. You're saying you couldn't do it.
Drinking is like get you up in a bed. If you feel sheets and you drink you feel good. This is why people who feel she's about everything drink to feel good. So it's like you can drink. It's a anti anxiety medication. I just
refuse to drink if I'm in a bad mood for that race. will make you feel good. And that's not what you want. Yeah, I just thought yeah,
it numbs the.
Yeah, I don't know. It just seems a bit dangerous. Of course, anything.
Yeah, that's the thing it can get you through this is. I'm in a good mood.
Your point was, you would only do it if you're tired and travelling.
Now. My point is, you tried to say that, because you know, I was shooting that I chose to drink. It's like, it's actually an antidote to the bullshit you're feeling sometimes. But it's not good. So but it catches up with you. The thing is getting pissed is the problem. Yeah, waking up feeling sheet. It's all the problem. And then no sleep and then so it's like,
and the trickle down effect of like, then you eat like shit, which means you feel like crap and he's super dangerous. So what's the difference? What's the deal with wines? Because brain I will share a bottle of red wine
is an eight saying I'd standard drinks eight standard drink. Not
gonna like upgrade that. But do people have two bottles in an evening? Is that what people do? Normally,
I could drink a bottle myself easily. But then
the thing is it everyone's different. It's what the body can bring
YX white wine? I'm not necessarily fan rice. Unless it's not this is hard. Yeah, not into
something dry. I like a sweet. Oh, yeah.
So it's rancid. But if you drinking a bottle by yourself, it's still ate. Like you can get a bottle into two glasses in so many calories. calories. Be shitload if there's if let's let's have a guest and then we'll get Mr. 97 and pull it up. I don't look at calorie bottle. So in a big bottle, there's around 283 80 calories in a beer bottle or can 640 calories in a wet red one 604 maybe more because of the great.
Probably the thing I care about least in life.
The most dangerous thing you can do
bottle of red wine calories.
Which Dr. pinos lower calorie counts. So if you want to really paint on Pay Now,
what are we talking 622 Oh, we'll
just say 630 or six.
What what drop is that steps to the say?
No, I just literally touching.
I think it's red. Yeah, but it's solid. It's interesting. So that's, I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with calories. And literally
you should know what you need to get out of that.
It can be quite effective. I
think it was effective. Yeah, when I cook when I don't think about it. I always ate excess in excess when I'm thinking about calories. I actually end up like maintaining
just ate just ate when you want the fox is that that's silly. There's actually a there's a diet when I'm hungry. Yeah. Which is? Yeah,
it says when you're hungry. People talking about diet.
dieting is a good idea. Just make the right choice. Yeah, but
that's that's like telling it. heroin addict. Just make the right choices. I'm a junkie.
I don't know I just think it's it's a complete I have more empathy for people with food addiction since hanging around Josh Sure. Because he can you can see you can see him physically
running out of the office. yesterday. Tommy Lyft No, I didn't. But 9797 Lyft and therefore entire day I put in the beam
took the Mac is Dr. Josh Okay, there we go. Good luck, Chase. gronk. Yeah, Love it. Love. Okay. I was I had a chance to Craig hapa recently a conversation around what's the food you would eat all the time if you knew you were gonna have no repercussions. And he was like cheesecake straight away.
You know, the thing about people bringing cheesecake to his talks,
mentioning that Yeah,
they know it's he's kryptonite and he and he doesn't open the door to chase k heaven. And so he can close because otherwise you'll blow out. So but people would bring him off because he loved chase KG
have a personal storey around food or something that makes you get so upset about calories?
Yeah, absolutely. I I, Tara black high school, I was obsessive. I didn't have an eating disorder. But I was certainly like, like disordered eating is where I was Thomas's.
And so most people interest don't have eating disorders, but they have disordered eating
disorders. So what does that mean?
Why just had a bit of body dysmorphia? I thought I was so fat. Now I look at photos from that time, and I was not. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if it's different.
And so there's orthorexia, which is the over healthy eating type of thing. But I feel like I'm so far away from now. I
wasn't doing that not eating. Do that.
And that's what this whole fasting culture. Yeah, I was pretty pumped. I didn't have dinner last night. I had some strawberries. I was unmuted. I was like, at a calorie deficit.
Oh, yeah. Why are you pumped?
Well, cuz I was like, I feel bit like it because food is such a like when I got home, bro, you had a course on I was like, I mean, if I can have a brains do it. I thought about like,
you're about to go to bed in two hours. Yeah, you probably don't even need to wait something. So I had some strawberries. I was so good.
At the fact that you're pumped about it.
Yeah, bit fact. Yeah, but what is talk
about psychology? Yeah, no, absolutely not.
Yeah, no. Like I am. Yeah, food. Yeah. Now that is my one. That Yeah, like my hat. So much of my mood is based on what I think.
Okay, should you sit food it would around so much my mood is based on
what I've done every every day. I did the I'm fasting. I've done the juice. Juice stuff. But I didn't like the juices. So I was drinking orange only orange juice. And I ended up after seven days just spit like crack the orange. I almost looked like the Joker.
It was not it. I just don't let any of my girlfriends talk about white around. I just think it's
and what did they say?
They still complain but I just
know. It's just like extreme. Anything is not healthy. Yeah, like extreme in every context of life like extreme eating one way is not healthy, extremely in the otherwise not healthy extreme left in politics is not healthy. Extreme right in politics is not healthy, extreme non exercise healthy extreme over exercising like everything. Nothing good comes from extreme. But isn't the biggest myth that like balances easy. Or like, I don't think people are promoting balances being easy. But I think most people, I think it's just balance. It just requires balance. balances like the that is the whole thing. It's just like, for some people they like I like just, you have I think for me, it's about like segmenting and saying I am. I can only be do balance. If it's like, I'm only eating bad food on these days. But then the rest of these days, I'm only eating good food in quotation marks saying, you know,
getting into salads for the 8020 rule. Thing is like that's not balanced on a percentage scale. It's not 5050 Yeah, it's a rule. And so the thing is rules a great Craig can't doesn't do it. Yeah. So if you implement a rule that takes a while, or if you have a rule of thumb, Well, okay, then another way of looking at it a habit habit.
Because the thing is, like, we always talk about this, like not having a strategy as a strategy, whether you like it or not. So it's like, if you go to
grilled, you don't get the chippies. That might be when YU a grilled.
They do Josh is the sort of main walk if you don't agree with you have to get the chippies.
If you're trying to get lane Don't go Don't get real with this guy. I'll give you
have to get up. Which
one's the standard or the sweet potato? Well, good. That's tough.
You can make that make sense, right? Not enough anyone's on yet. I do have many
calories. So the sweet part has more calories.
Is that from savvy dietitian? She did. She did.
The savvy dietitian, Instagram. I absolutely love it. But she puts side by side of different foods. Just to give you a sense of
what triggers Yeah.
Well, yeah, I used to be. I did Weight Watchers as a kid as well.
What else? But I mean, these things become a problem. When you're brought body. Your body's more predisposed putting on white then this guy told gronk
put on YUUK
triple Josh is bad guys have when he was a kid feel like you wouldn't put on why?
Like in America, I will eat way worse than I do. When I'm in Melbourne. I won't exercise and I won't get as much sleep now lose weight. Exactly. Exactly.
You know, and so when you get to understand the what it mentally does, yeah. Their experience? So it's like, Yes. Can you people don't get the No not yet larger people do and
I swear Yeah. And like yet people trying to say I just go to the gym and put on some muscle I'm like, I don't think you understand
quite that easy for which then is also the issue with diets. Because unless somebody has tailored, the diet is specific. And that's the thing we found actually, even the fasting thing. It's not sat down with somebody, it's just like, you donate these hours and then started in it's like, it's one part of a huge equation. Yeah,
and most of the smart people that you hear in this space, say, it is unique to each individual, there is no one diet that fits everyone is just a ridiculous notion. Everyone has something unique about the way that they consume and digest food, and how that makes them feel and react. And so there's just no one universal diet. So I've been to a nutritionist, I've got a personal plan on what looks and feels and makes me function in a highway in a high performing way. And you know, Chelsea's the same. And I think I think that's a better approach than like, but everyone should be taking, you're doing paleo. Everyone should be fasting. It just doesn't make sense. And that's what's weird about my culture, and geography because like, if you live in this area, you have these foods. Like we all sort of how we making the decision, like it feels like there's the unconscious, which is just what's available to me.
shepherds if I can for McDonald's within the area of shattered essay is a couple of cages workout, just
Mac is out of the four system.
Now, yeah, the one we went to his best.
Yeah. The general rule I've heard that I like is if you shop on the outside of the supermarket, you do quite well. So like fruit and veg. Oh, yeah. A bit of dairy, some meat. And then I think like frozen berries and stuff on the other side. Keep on the outside of the market and don't go inside. The only thing is the Tim Tams are. Anyway, talk show. Jim, you've sold out? Yeah,
yeah. 45 seconds.
So you launched your live event? and it sold out?
Yes. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. I still can't really believe it. I had in my head. That because they went on sale at 10 o'clock in the morning, and then I had to go, I had to leave my house at 10 past 10. And then I was gonna be back at me down. I was like, oh, maybe I'll say like the first couple gets sold, and then I'll come back in the day in a few more minutes. Yeah, yeah. One minute past 10. I'm getting messages from people that I've been gone.
I mean, what I found more impressive was brain's ability to snag.
My keys. That's why he's very good with that sort of admin, I believe. plants in the fridge. Yeah. The cookie in general. The cookie in general strength. Yeah, you got your weaknesses. Yeah, exactly. Not not, she's not right. Now that's not a strength careful.
She can get tickets to live show.
She will do the Uber Eats orders on my behalf, which is an extra level of YZ. on my end,
we're going to have a little shindig for the 500th Episode
500 a different crowd ready for that?
expensive Can I feel the year
before I mean, we haven't locked in all details. But if you are wanting to come you need to show your interest by emailing Hi, the daily talk show.com time to party in the subject. It's time to pop
in and tell them her favourite character
can do that.
It's on the ninth
day 29th of October 29 of October
at Josh. I had it saved from Episode 400. Yes,
yes to that. Anyway. Any suggestions to a couple of incapable gronk
How do we how did I sell out the event and for them so we're not going to be selling tickets? That's the first Okay.
Well they guy
so that makes it
a lot more than just selling the tickets you get it like to put on veined.
Well, I mean it what
what sort of think about us
event Don't be the diet, the preacher be this specific, you know, the specific dietitian for the gronk so these grants So what advice knowing the way just absolute gronk Oh,
no. No, it's
not it's a venue thing. Yeah. Anything in an apple?
Because it's a licence venue.
And they have security all the time. Yeah.
Arriving in a bulletproof Yes.
Yeah, soft shell we're rolling in and
yeah, that was
it's actually a talk
nobody told him I was
Yeah, I love the name New York City right around and rip start ritual. A ritual two hours, but any advice?
What what Okay, so I mean, I don't know your process, but for me I'm like I'm just so visual. So when I was planning everything I had a full mood board of every single element
lacked on Pinterest.
Yeah, that's what I've done that I've got a Pinterest board and then you make Pinterest boards inside the Pinterest board so I have one for the flowers. I had one for the event in general yeah balloon. No, just the lines are not I'm brand for glow general. Yeah, we just have to know what's on brand and what's going on the penguins.
Yeah, exactly. surprise and delight for us make it free. The match Yeah, they just like you're onto a venue. Yeah, something that you pay. There's a musical performance acoustic. There'll be an acoustic there will be tattoo artist that would be
I would love that. I want one so
what would you get the daily talk show today?
Or do you get let me get a little Greiner on your wrist? No. Sorry. It's my friend. I know this girl who got what I thought was a banana. It was meant to be a half moon.
a little bit.
Forever bloody Billy cow
that feels on brand for Jim. KY.
No, that's more on brand for all night. What? See? Yeah, yeah, definitely
had that. What about Halloween? Halloween thing?
Well, okay, so I love to dress as someone that had a costume 21st when I dress up and it was a circus, so I was obviously um, but other people don't like dressing up. So I had a bucket at the door of all like animal mass.
Stan, Halloween themed things. I don't know what it is. I just
don't understand Halloween at all there in Australia.
Yeah, like the coworking space on that. But they don't do a commerce party. That big thing is the Halloween party. I'm like, just talk here.
This is Australia. Exactly. I don't know.
Who would you go as? I wouldn't go. I haven't been I've been that last two years. And I don't go
Yes. Because I'm honoured
to be a sexy costume on Halloween. I think that defeats the purpose
Well, you got your whole circle the other What was that? Sir?
That was a good costume because it was an around the world. I feel like you tried to wrap this up 15 minutes. It was in around the world themed party so everyone was like an air hostess like a French maid and I
love it like that if you press a button and flights Yeah, I mean you so you make it easy for the people coming because you what you've done is actually just said you're going to get 300 bucks worth of goodies in a in a bag. Yes. And I mean, I'm there.
I think a Halloween I think we could do Halloween.
Yeah, but just get there get there. You know what, we really need to lock the venue in. Yeah,
to me that was confirmed. No.
I didn't say it was confirmed IU 79 since I was confirmed, send them an email. Josh Tommy was confirmed. We mentioned it on the show. Yeah,
yeah. But if you listen back is I think Tommy at his words were we're looking at exactly what I said. Yeah.
We're looking at the MCJ as well.
Benny it's great. Yeah.
Anything else happening with you pay flying Mario?
A few weeks enjoy your trip make sure you get that two step happening in New York. I will Yeah.
To do some Instagram yeah visiting friends I'll do I might do a couple Instagram Ross with me and my friends. Yep.
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