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Daily Talk

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Show Episode 302. What's going on? You not touch my button again? Touch me. You. You, you actually press the button that makes the music being trigger. Yeah, I started this show. Did you realize that maybe I was about to forget. Yeah,

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I reckon you did. Something you did forget was that a piece of mail was addressed to me yesterday that came

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and had my name on it and you opened it. I was actually pissed off this morning when I got it.

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We like genuinely

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because I was I was it. What came was Craig Harper, our buddy. He's written a new book. It's called 20 questions for humans. It's very practical. Get your shit together. Nice. Yeah. Good to say he's been telling. He was telling us about this for ages. And I bought two copies. She got them shipped here. Yeah. The business. Yeah, we're supporting me. And I was just looking forward to it because I see you getting so much mail. You like the kids at a party that opens the fucking birthday boys presents.

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all know what happened was when you had put we had been leaving for. We did a presentation thing at a time yesterday. Yeah. It's like an independent college type of thing. Anyway, as we were heading there, you looked at the letterbox and said, Ah, there's Craig's books. Yeah, I'll hide that under some other stuff. So now let's do that. Yeah, I say, Oh, we got a package. And then as it's gonna be Craig's books, and so we had my name on it, right. Yeah. So but when you went home, missing 97. And I came back to work. Yeah, finishing off the day. And the package was there. And I was like, Okay, I'll take it up. And then as I took it up, I was like, ah, I've got a bookshelf at home. That's not full. It'd be great. I can slide innovate. Craig Harper into my life

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is a lot of people saying that. Yeah, I'd love to slide Craig offering. Yeah.

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So that was the plan. And so, but I'm sorry, I did. I'm sorry, though, because where I went wrong with it yet was I didn't look that it was addressed to you. I was so just in the moment and just saw the red and white on this post and just grabbed it. I mean,

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in fairness, you are getting that many packages, books, and 99% of them are for you. We're really getting anything. I really buy anything. I didn't buy shit.

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Do you enjoy the thing of opening a pack? Yeah,

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I think I think we all do that. We like opening it. Like, my brother's daughter was opening all these presents. He's too she's throwing Bodie get upset about he actually thought that he was he's like my nice present.

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So he was he was and you're like, No, you're

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not. Yeah, I was the you know, the caring father baby. No, no, yeah, no reason to

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put it down.

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She had to.

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He's He's too He can't really do

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too much. Well, we're sending out gifts to people.

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We are saying stickers were opened. We've opened it up again with this is our fourth ran

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of sticker run. stickers and effect. Yeah,

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we've seen them all over the joint. We've sent these I mean, we finally got the ones to the UK when you are That's right.

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And I sent them from Barcelona. Yeah. to Michelle in the UK. And you actually did that. You did it. It's good. You they may. Well, I didn't do it. But my my friend Abraham, didn't it? Yeah. lost it. Yeah. No, because what happened was I think he sent it but I put in the return address is our P o box, which is p o box. 400. Yes. Good. Victoria 3067. And the thing was that, obviously in Spain, yeah, you can't have a return address. That's like overseas. Okay. And so they got they got declined at the post office. Really, he had to redo them with I think he's address

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interesting. So we've sent stickers to modality, which I didn't know of, in New South Wales. Victoria, New South Wales, again, heaps all over the joint to Portugal.

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It's dry

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up into Queensland, the USA, so Schaumburg, Illinois,

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James Joyce, so

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we've opened it up again. And we've already had people asking because it cuts off on Friday, and we had an email from Emily, who is

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an Ozzy? Yeah,

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she's learned quite a bit from our show. She discovered it through Christian Hall. And she continued to listen, and she said that she's started to she's been hearing us use Hebrew slang. And she says, I was, I was brought up here, and I don't even use all the slang gronk she'd never heard the term before. So I'm pretty proud of that.

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Well, we actually had some an early listener, probably the first 50 episodes reached out and they English is their second language. And they were basically using podcast sort of brush up on their

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love that just at uni,

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hello,

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gronk gronk. Bogan all this What's up, bro. But we

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got we got emails from john who says, So came to get the daily talk show stickers. Oh, yeah. Or a few. If you're offering more. How many do we include in? Ah, usually it's four to six

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starters. It depends on how loose. I mean, I've been doing all the ones on the ground since we've been back. Yeah, it depends on how loose I get.

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And so yes, john, you will be getting more than just one. He said. I heard you guys on Craig Harper's podcast. Those are listening. Then at about Episode 200 when you did the last sticker offer, and we also heard from Sean as well. And Sean has done something we've had it had happened a couple of times. He is offering a sticker swap. Yeah, I'll take it. And so the idea being that we've had Wayne has done this for us. In the past year had Michelle do it. Basically people sending us stickers, we had Trello we got a bunch of Trello stickers as well.

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I mean people do store stuff like this I like there's so much going on behind closed doors

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that we don't

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like I was thinking I was driving past a commission housing estate says like sky rise, hundreds and hundreds apartments. I was like, you know, it was just a thought to think there is so many different people that have a different existence, their houses could be really well kept, like in these condition homes that are just like

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spotless

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and random at all complete dumps, and we all sort of like the our homes are very much in a look into our selves. About how you know how we're going with shit. I think like I know my house is a mess if I'm fucking all over the shop or buddies this shit everywhere and he's just being annoying. And I know

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what I think we do is we I've kept all the stickers to a box. Yeah, so it's not going to get to a point where the whole every bit of the wall is filled with sticker Yeah. Have you ever been a magnet guy now? Because they don't have to. I mean

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I've never been a magnet guy. I was just thinking about the fridge I've somehow ended up with magnets but I'm I'm always curious is where the fuck

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did that come sooner? I seven is it having a family home? Do you have magnets on your fridge? How the front of a fridge isn't magnetic so you

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leave the side but is from an affluent area where they have built the actual look of the whole you know kitchen in under the Freedom

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engines old so yeah, it's it's just flooding.

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But new new fruit new houses and shit like a lot of them. Yeah, have. It looks like a door so it makes it look like a blend and the cabinet. Yeah. So you're moving away from the front of the fridge. Yeah, I mean, magnets are a bit of a dying thing. But I will probably end up creating but I think there's a there's heaps of industry like travel. There's people who if they go overseas, yeah,

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they get a magnet

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tourist like it's a tourist trap. But it's I don't know if it's a tourist trap. Like some people that's like the thing they collect you you're buying it from the bottom of the Trevi fountain in Russia. Yeah, it's like oh, this is a great idea for a little bit

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people get right into it. To town there is one

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I had it on my old car Honda Civic still there the day I sent it off to the scrapper got my 250 bucks for it was it was a magnet from a fish and chip shop and shepherd. And he's like gotta take one of these. There's a god probably won't use it. He said no. Put the magnet on the inside of your door in the car

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to slap it on. And why? Because he's like,

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heaps of people do it. And it just leaves it so if you ever need it you getting in the car. I mean it's a marketing thing from him. But this thing never fell off. So the inside seal if you ever needed for what the fish and chips in a the number to call fish and chips. So it was specifically designed as a way of it was just a magnet for a fridge any and you cause metal so you can stick it on to your car. And so when you are open your door, within your car, there's the door frame, the door seal that work

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on like an i 30 or something work on any of the cars

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because they're all metal.

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So we could potentially do like a daily talk show magnet set, specifically designed for that door. I can show you where it goes. Because

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it's like it doesn't come off the door. It's not that tight. There's a slight little gap. It would make sense for daily talk shows. magnet based on getting DK you probably can listen to the show. I don't know how many times I then went and bought fish and chips based on this magnet. I was always so impressed at all still there.

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There were any phone numbers that you remember off by heart

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yet 959654 or 549531314? ofo? Yeah,

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heaps white. What are those numbers? 995 444

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was my where I grew up? Yeah,

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my house number now still the house number.

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I shouldn't know.

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I won't put it to a better oldest.

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You just have the just I just don't even do it loudspeaker.

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Well, we don't say if it rings. Let's just say

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it's not connected. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

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So that's the funny story about home numbers. Like, I don't know how much you needing to remember these numbers anymore. Based on having iPhones like phones, you just aren't needing this shit. There was I was in Sydney. And I called my home phone because I wanted to speak to mom. And so I just typed in press the number cold and I add an answer. I said hi. I said, Hi, Sarah. What are you doing? Because I just felt like it was this weed interaction like, oh, what do you what do you mean? I just looked at my phone, look at the number. I'd put in 1995 or five, four, if you got the state. I was in the area, the area code of Sydney. So there's a family in Sydney that has this number that I was I ended up it was a young chick and we just had this sort of funny interaction. I told her what had happened. She laughed at me.

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Well, it was a

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I remember, I tried to call

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I think was Ric v once I ended up calling like another like a radio station. roadside assistance. Yeah, yeah. Because there was a break down. Yeah. Running out of petrol. I know my but there was a loop loop immobile yet. leukemia will come to you the number 32

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What was it was a kid who used to say 1313 3032. Yeah.

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Is that what it was? Yeah. I think the number Mr. 97 can you Google the number 03 Here we go. Reading I want to see how impressive you guys think this is? Yeah. 97969796 Yeah. 6199619. Yeah. Yeah. into

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into just googling the number. Yeah.

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Mexican Cantina. Mexican Cantina. Neri warned. See you impressed?

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My favorite restaurant? Joining us growing up hit 9796 was it to order

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takeaway? Was this just a

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place in order? No, this was to book my scene Cantina. Eric's been? Hi, Eric. It's Josh here. Oh, hi, man. Hey, go. Yeah, good. Thank

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you. Can I just book for for Janssen. Yeah, absolutely. What's on seven at any it there's some great customer services that are laced makes me feel like you know, they know me.

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Are you impressed by

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that's kind of impressive. I call that when I go to the airport I pack in this joint called jet port

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soon old school thing to do, isn't it?

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back in April.

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drive my car to an airport, they will parking

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in the I just have these nostalgic memories of being parked in what's the court called? There's a specific court where there's a few of them. Yeah,

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there's a bunch of them. But it is actually more effective, more convenient than the long term car park at the airport. So it's like $17 a night.

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Did you ever do a limo the airport?

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So anyway, when you call this company, and you say packing bola? Yep. No worries, Tommy, I've got your number saved in the system. But I just felt like

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I kind

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of like it's one of those moments, jokes, you

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know how it happens. But I was always like,

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thanks. There is a little element and it's a sales technique, right? Sort of the rapport. I do you do start to wonder like there's a cafe, that brain I go to on the weekends. And they like some of our stuff on Instagram. Instagrams, like changed the way that we interact with businesses because now it's like our do we like? I think they said Bry the other day,

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and we actually, you know, never told them you know, okay, so they've it's a fair play. Know your clientele know your

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customer and call them by their name. But we like the Facebook photos. Well, the waiter. Yeah, actually, like we've been there maybe for like those four times in a row every weekend when we had the same wider. He's like, What's your name? He's like, I'll remember them. Yeah. And so he were he did a great job. He's like, I'm gonna assign something to it. It was like brie cheese. And he came up with for Josh last night. And it was the one for Josh.

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Josh,

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the one that the way that I remembered his name. His name is Phil, Phil. And Bray. He's got an uncle named Uncle Phil. And Phil. Phil. And so I just remembered Uncle Phil. I'm just gonna remember this guy's Uncle Phil and we walked into the cafe.

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Bed him till my uncle fail is I break Josh That's right.

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It is. I mean, there's times when you use characters that you probably can't tell the person that you tell us. That is the memory when I've got one for a person. I won't say the name. But I'll say the character.

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The guy from Fred. From Family Guy. payday, Griffin. Yeah, the big sort of heavy when he weighs one. He's like big fat guy was like, no, it's very close to that. And so I was like, that's the only way I could remember his name. Just every time is this. I cannot stop laughing when I go there. But you don't want to be added in that you don't. Like you don't want to connect a name to something bad and then sort of.

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That's why

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I've told you how I remember Connie's name our mail guy. Yeah, yeah, kind of all County. Yeah, I just like and it's starting to really stick it just knows us as the camera guys. Yeah.

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Which he probably doesn't know our names. That's a good point. He just knows this is the camera guy calling up. Yeah, it is a we'd like not. I always want to like yesterday we were doing a talk. It was nice. We got invited from candy. My old co host candy hurts. Yep. On Shepherd him. The Golden valleys star of him. How long did

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you guys were you colleagues for

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weary we started the show together and we did a year and then I had Stacy June who's been on the show for another year. So I was there for two years. But candy and I with the oh geez. together there and she invited us to come and do a talk to a bunch of her students from Colorado, which is like a College of the Arts. Yeah, there are vying to become vying there

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can be the next content creators

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digital content creator workshop. Can't remember where I was going with that. Well, we did that yesterday. I'm bit nicer. Yeah, we got introduced to a few people. So I could just fucking went blank straightaway and decided Oh, hey, bro. I might. It's amazing how quickly you forget this shit. Yeah. And I know it's an active thing. Jews land is one of the one of the greatest talents is remembering people's night. It's unbelievable. Like, early days, I'd type mites out would go hang out with jewels and my brother and stuff. Like Bobby, what's going on, bro?

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The fact is, you remember that? I can

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do that. But just takes me a second. So I think the awkward. Yeah, maybe sort of outweighs knowing the night. Yeah, I get it. Like my brain is really ticking. So there's the guy does it naturally which jewels?

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But I think he's purposely doing it. It's

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something he still has to learn. Yeah,

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it has to be an intention going to a situation like I'm going to remember this person's because otherwise you just caught up in your head to thinking about your own shit what you're going to say.

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But is there an argument to that you might spend so much time trying to remember these people's names that you actually don't listen to what they're saying.

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And I think there's probably a learning period of time where you get good at and so you get good at being the guy that quickly just says that person related to that. Great.

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Back with David, what did you learn from going to culottes? How did that make you feel? You're the anti establishment guy. You are the

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school dropout? Yeah,

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hundred percent. But I think since I've left school and you and there's been a whole bunch of private colleges that have opened up that offering courses is more relevant to today's modern tires. Like it's not uni, it's not just going to get your marketing degree from, you know, Swinburne or one of the big unis in Melbourne, you know, and then dropping out like Mr. 97. From from was at Swinburne swimming yesterday, marketing grade dropout

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over here. Do you actually make any friends at Swinburne?

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So just because you were telling us, you, you did how long? in six months? How many classes were planned? And how many did you go to account? What were your contact hours, one day, a week, one day?

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A week,

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you could still do this while working full time with us. But I am the anti establishment person. But I

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kind of love the vibe. But these joints,

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like me doing my personal training degree as a 17 year old kid, I say the gray shirt for but it was like attacking the

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file lyst cause he can't fail.

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But it was still frightening as fact for me, and I remember being around, I just quit. I'm not good. I will fail everything. Like I just that was the mindset, right. And it was nice to see people at a place that it's kind of cool that venues are cool. They're in the coolest suburbs in Melbourne.

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That's where I was thinking that the location is sick. Yeah.

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And they're learning the shit that they want. And so there's now more offerings for doing stuff that you just want to do. You know, it's not wrapped up in some other course. And you gotta do some thing before it or something. So I liked it. It was cool. seeing some, you know, people that sort of early stage of wanting to give somebody a crack, but not knowing what it is that they want to give a crack.

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If I said to you, hi, I've got a bunch of cash

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turned down, I might say million dollar. I mean, yeah,

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million bucks. The thing is that I'm a representative from Open Universities. Yeah. Okay. And we're trying to promote the age. What is it called? Like your old student? middle? No. Yeah, I mature, right? Sure. I shouldn't. Thank you. Yeah. Got a million bucks. We just need you to do two year degree. Can you even do that missing? Oh, seven, could you do a degree in two years?

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I know. It's normally three years. But you might you might be able to fast track if you've got some

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Yeah, I've got prior.

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What are they? What if they were like you have to you just have to pick a degree? Yes. What would it be? If you could then you have that degree? Okay.

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I think a marketing degree would be something that interests me. But I'd probably be rolling my eyes at everything. But if it was a smug about it, because I'm a marketer, you're a marketer. If you make any kind of content, you're understanding, communications, and you know, and so I think there would be stuff where this is, we would struggle, it would be super hard, hard experience. This man Craig hapa wrote this book. So any questions if you're listening to the Orient, Tony, Christians, humans, he went back to university. So he's got an exercise science degree. So he's a scientist and exercise artist. He went back later in life, after he had successful businesses, multiple training studios, other ventures that he was going written books, blogs, and then he goes back sitting in the classroom as a shot 40 something year old man, I think it was 40 year old man,

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which, yeah,

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he ended up lecturing at those classes for some of them. But it's it's an experience that he talked, I remember him telling me that he took, he basically stopped what he was doing with all these businesses and just became a student full time riding into Melbourne University, or wherever it was in the city every single day or couple days a week.

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There's an appeal to think it's slightly appealing. Yeah.

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I think it I think you you need to be okay. Like, I don't want to be a struggling student. I'll be the million if

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you don't get the money until three years after you finish

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freeze out. Why?

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Because I can see you're trying to fuck in, you're going to be the biggest bowl in the whole place.

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My brother had some help with some of these later down the line assignments. What does that mean? So like, because he's the thing right, my brother went and did a graphic design industrial design degree, and then got a full time job. He then hadn't finished his course, but then was designing helmets that were in the Tour de France for bike company and shit. So he nailed in cracked skulls.

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You missed the safety

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component of it. Look, I

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think he got a bit of help with these assignments. Outsourcing some help. Because it comes to a point where you like, I've actually learned a bunch of this practical stuff, learned a bunch of this textbook shit. And I've applied at practically, practically to some real life examples and then why do I need to do this shit. So it's like,

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and that's where I am learning now to not push back as much when you go to a place like that. Yeah,

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it's not it's not that everyone

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advice for everyone is not don't fact and go to university just putting the effort you smack. Yeah.

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Well, it may be for me, but most people aren't. You know, fact out like me.

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Well, I went to Boulder in Colorado, just on a holiday and we went there.

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And it's something yet song when I get

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back in Boulder.

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didn't know that was what they said. But

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it's actually one of your favorite songs. Do

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you like

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to Yeah, yeah.

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Okay, sure. It's a good one.

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We could be when we could be called def time.

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So funny about when you say to somebody all you remember

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that song? And I'm humming it

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completely perfect to tune I can understand how you don't

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know fucking no understanding to it. So yeah, you're in Boulder, Colorado. Yeah,

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chain smokers Film Club. And there was a cafe. And just like it was bustling with with college students. And I thought this would be cool. Like, in another life. I could imagine going there and hanging out and having a coffee and being on my MacBook and yeah, right and doing an assignment. Yeah,

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I get that appeal. But then I think the the form and the structure would be would break, bro. Yeah,

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it break me? Well, I think I mean, what to do the international bit 97 Did you ever think about doing an international sort of transfer

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placement? No, but I had credit to

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into it.

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Well, you know, you had you had to wait until like, you're like, you have to do like your second year. And then you can do an international placement.

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That would have been so much fun. The thing is, though, yeah, but

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you're going into it until you get to say what the assignments? And most probably, yeah,

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I mean, any of these degrees or courses that you do. It's it's forced learning are forced action. So you're made to do an assignment, which is basically like we've done assignments, ourselves, putting together some sort of video series or just

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the assignment. What about if, like, you got to your project was working on YouTube channel? Yeah,

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that'd be cool. Do I still get my mail inbox?

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Well, I think put the take the million bucks off the table. But these

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are like, if I gave you it.

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I got very close to signing up to a degree. Which one in end of 2014 it was just before I go. Yeah, it was just before I went overseas on the big trip with Nissan. Yeah. And I was like,

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I was thinking I wanted to do more writing. Yeah, I wanted to do more. Like I had just gone down a rabbit hole of all the stuff. Nick Bilton, who's a journalist who wrote hatching Twitter book all about Twitter. And I was like, I'd love to be a journalist who just explores and is adventure and doing all that stuff. And so I was I remember being in it always these whatever crisis moments or whatever it like if you look at it two ways, breakdowns. Totally for Josh and so there was my quarterly breakdown. I was in Broome in why Yeah, yeah.

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And so

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you met Christopher escapes? Whose hotel the one with the ginormous pool now that No, no. Christmas guys was an all con man. strata torment. And he built this ginormous place. I think it was in Broome. And there was this huge fuck off

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a legend con man. Oh, no,

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he was on the run. He died pretty much on the run, I think

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really

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had like a guess. You know, I think he's nice.

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What is that, like a thing that you breathe through breathing apparatus

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can heal for it. Interesting. There's a lot of missing bits. So that's a shame. But you know, I remember being in Broome and I was, it was when Miley Cyrus had just brought out a new album. A lot of walking on the beach listening to like,

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man, I can't remember the words again, being like I was playing that song. And I was like, walking hips and I'd come back and I was on like the open University's website looking at journalism degrees. And why didn't you do what was the main reason you didn't pull because I realized that Nick Bilton who I respected hadn't done one like I was like, I need to be journalist to be I wanted to do all these think I just hadn't done that. Okay, I was wanting to do more documentaries. I was saying like, Louis through when john San Fran and I wanted to be able to write more and do all that sort of thing and have a the part of it was like a bit of a rebrand was like you know what? I'm not gonna tell anyone that I'm doing the course. Yeah. And then one day, I'm just gonna be like, I've got a degree. I've got a fucking degree in journalism. And I've got a question

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yeah, I would never work you you

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there is

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so he's some hypocrisy the friend of this segment he is Hi, it's Tommy here. Here's some

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hypocrisy Can you do that?

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Just for fun. Now I've already said it so friend of mine wanted to he's a mature age student wanted to do a psychology degree a guy who has had some life experience you know found decided that he wanted to apply himself to three courses something and he was ready for it like that is the perfect student right? So you've got to see it if you haven't done any study within a certain amount of years. Sit dislike What is it like a stat test to set tests?

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Test yes that is it like

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basically unity it's like a general knowledge test and you have to get a score above a certain amount What do they call it in the US see it or that test? Maybe? Anyway, way by the way, the three of us are not going to fucking pass one of those we actually missed it 97 would i would crumble he the maths that he was standardized test, set test test it Yeah, there you go.

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Yes, it is. Yeah, so the essay t that yeah, it's this one. It's a stat sta t

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Yes. Special, tertiary. tertiary. tertiary.

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Yep, tertiary admissions test.

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You got 97 Yeah,

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they

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didn't go back into our tertiary is

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this tertiary tertiary tertiary education is unique and stuff or no tertiary just before uni.

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So anyway, it's all falling apart. I

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studied for these Sasha think that

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is the American secondary education and I think stat might be what destroyed by the daily talk show.com if you know the status

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Philander like you do it and they chit so you do it over your computer, someone's watching you through the camera, you have to take your phone and show it and you need to take three or four steps back and you need to put the phone down so they see you putting the phone down you need to pick up Pick up your computer and show around you what's on the floor. What's up this is a case paper chases

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the remote one oh like this is so dumb.

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Isn't it stupid? Stupid and so you need to get like 55 or something and he got like 50 and so he was on the phone to the person that the dean or the the assistant to the person that accepts people into the into the university

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show same their

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best in please please you know like, I'd love to come in and meet you. I'm really committed to this you know, I'm I'm an old red stripper

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all this stuff? Not with the hypocrisy that

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they the fact that they know that.

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That's I'm really

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glad I didn't commit to doing your fucking

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open a fish. Oh,

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what? Did I use the wrong word? I just turn it off. It's hypocrisy

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hypocrisy. hypocrisy would be way for everyone. Or

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try Oh, that'd be contradictory

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but we're hypocrisy democracies countries have a false appearance of virtual goodness while concealing real character or inclinations especially with respect to religious a marvelous way off but where I where I was going with it. psychology degree helping people the want to help someone all the person that's a little bit yeah, I can say skating they're almost passing knocking back not you can't do this based on you didn't know your maths or some English

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it's like this is where it's a way to show you just like any gronk in

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no but I think there should be some I mean this Yes. You can easily easily say we have rules it's broken for a purpose. But also the whole thing

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you want to do psychology then you get it? You gotta get above like it

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Yes. Yeah.

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So which you think is bullshit?

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Yeah it's not it's not accurate it's not it's not a good good thing to have to let people into what they want to do.

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Why did you get it How did you get a good at what was the combination of things?

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I did I did well in English which is like it has to be in your top it's got a lot of it's got to be effect on your school and I did well in English

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English literature or something I just normal

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I can was you was it you mission to get a high I

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know, really well knowing

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what it was it was I guess like I sort of I didn't really care what I got. But But did you met I said I set a goal as sort of like 90 Yeah, and then midway through the I was like ah, hang on this might actually get high I wasn't I wasn't expecting anywhere near

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what was the day that you got because yeah, the day that you get your scores is a big thing. Do you get them by text message via text? Now you have

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to log you have to log in. I didn't have my login I had to go find it email a teacher to go get it go these pathways

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using one of those

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annoying password hiding one password.

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So anyway, so you get where were you when it all happened? on holiday in New Zealand in Queenstown we did you feeling the pressure from mum and dad.

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And

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what was the feeling we happy? Was it

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not it would

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look

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dreadful. Yeah.

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This privilege.

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Now look, no, I was always happy. But I guess it didn't it didn't really matter what I got. I wasn't like it wouldn't I don't think I would have felt any different if I got like a 70.

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Really?

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It doesn't because I was it doesn't mean anything to me. You

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go have a good dinner or something like

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yeah, Mama. Well cuz Sam, Sam James and dead. They were all on a hike in the moment. I were in Queenstown. So we went out for you. Where'd you go?

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I can't remember. Yeah,

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what did you a celebration? I would have been like, I had nachos. And I had tacos. And I had a raspberry

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reabsorbed you go.

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So maybe, maybe, maybe a piece of steak? Yeah, man. I feel like you

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feel better.

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So it wasn't a big part because I guess that's

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it wasn't a big celebration. It was just

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Yeah. Because in survey so survey results in radio that basically when they send out all the books and they get people to mark what they're listening to. And the all the radio stations find out on the same day how they win. And at my old work at Fox FM, they would have survey result. lunches. Yeah.

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Do you ever have this? Yeah. And they're pretty dark when it doesn't go well for the station

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or everyone would get Nando's with it? Yeah, so it was a the Nando's and they sort of moved to grilled. But it was sort of like the celebration. A bit awkward though when results aren't good. They still they still doing the Nando's

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interesting when I worked on Matt Tilly show, you know here number one Breakfast Show for 10 years and in Melbourne. And then he sort of transitioned and his career moved into a breakfast show that was not doing well. I just remember the the vault I mean, I was just shit kicker, you know, creating the video content. And he was like you could tell there was some like things he didn't want to know staff like it was like rituals where he didn't want to be told any of the results before the show or like, I mean, make sense. You like you have all this pressure. All the pressure is riding on you is the face the show. And so it was it was a it was some intense times for shows that weren't doing so well. You know, better to do well on the end or not.

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No, maybe it was all around wasn't like plummeting, I think plummeted. And then it wasn't Yeah. It'd be hard being in a sinking ship. What was your final day of school?

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I could I can't remember that. Because I lived in New York living

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god it was like a fizzle out. Because like,

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I stopped going most most of the time but

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what So the thing is like when you bring in I or I'm sure amazing finish school. You get your polo shirt and you all sign it. Did you do the whole signing polo shirt? Like your shirts? Yeah, school shirts. Yeah, yeah, uniform. I do that in like primary school. Yeah.

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And then that was it. So leaving promise gutterman. That was cool. But as I was older, I was leaving dance catchy.

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But it's just a weird, like, so there's not like a specific memory of like, you know, waking up one day and being like, I've got no school now.

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I remember the conversation with my mom in the car saying I'm leaving. And like we will we driven and more together and just talking about it when I

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was going to do you're 17 and then I remember

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Yeah, 17 then I remember I went to the went into the place where I signed up for my personal training course. Which was sick, actually. Now that was lightly on the track.

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It is funny how memories work. They all sort of fucking merge 97 can't even remember what he ate. Yeah, outrageous. Absolutely. I mean, that was

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you at least finished it and it was a big thing for your life then or it is it is what you're working towards. Which is why I'm surprised like I I just feel a little out of school. It's a it's a Yeah,

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it is a sort of a weird thing. Did you find the pressure of because you had a good score? Not gloating about it? Did you have made, you know, dummy mates like us? Who didn't do as well? And how did you? Yeah, hard to that.

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Now just sort of, I don't know, it was it's hard. Because it's like, when you've got that score, trying to be supportive of someone else. It's like, yeah, you don't really you don't really mean that. Like, you've just you've just got a 97

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what? I don't

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know, probably just not putting any weight on what the domains just like helping them in that regard. Like, it doesn't mean anything

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that would annoy the fuck out of them. Because you've you've rocked up with a 97 and then yeah, and then that they might want to be a psychologist and need to get over it. And they've got 65

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That's right, when you trying to get into a course and it's all back on this is there's so much pressure for these kids.

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That's how it's fun. But the thing is, I mean, like if that's the case you don't get it it's it's like a one year you can do like a one year thing and then transfer into what you want. And

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this is why you shouldn't get fucking rewarded for placing Yeah, you know, little running rights when you're young. Because first second third, like they're like that is you have to you can't can't be any less. You can't get Oh, he's a pat on the back for getting 69 when you had to get 70 Yeah. Yeah,

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the shows there should be some

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like options for entrepreneurial people. What the option if you don't get a good score,

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get these colleges like collage.

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These other ones that me it's like, it's still school. I feel like there is that and then there's what is the other thing? Like I wonder

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like the jack Hello. So he's going to entrepreneur school.

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They always still school? Like what if we chucked all that out? Like getting people into the workforce? Yeah. earlier. I think he's cool. But I think it's so hard to do that in an effective way. No one pushes it like career advisors and stuff at school. Yeah.

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Just everyone just you just get pushed into university in life.

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Do you

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know what no one's just like, ah, have a year off and go do some work experience? Yeah, like it's it's a lot of them just like a gap. Yeah. And then make sure you got your uni university course in place. How's the

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hypocrisy? I

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think this the socio economics and stuff plays into it as well. My school was like a Sports Academy. So there's lots of sports, but low socio economic, and not as much it was probably, I wouldn't be surprised if it was

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40 I would like to know the numbers we should try and look at that block and 40% of people went on to to try extended, no extended like it you uni or whatever. I reckon there was less. less people went to uni that didn't didn't open. So they would have gone to a trade they would have started their own thing they would have. Yeah,

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I mean, there's a bunch of people killing it doing trades now. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, that is the getting out in the workforce. Kids. I went to school with a bunch of them. They dropped out Saturday tried. By the time they're 22, the fully qualified builder, and they're sitting there building license, and they can go on to create a development company, building company, whatever. It's like,

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it's good way to go. Yeah.

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It's it's a one way to go. Yeah,

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I guess that's why it doesn't even conspiracy. Jimmy Yeah. It's like, you know, My son, I think, you know, the plumbing that this to that, like, we're always going to need pipes.

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Because Josh will always be shit. Jimmy always definitely needs pot. And so that's the thing is, it's, that's the part of it, which is I think that like, everyone's on their individual journey. It takes a lot of listening to be like, oh, what are you actually into? What do you want to do? And I guess we can't I wonder how much of its environmental versus Amai. Where were you pulling from? Mr. 97? When you were trying to work out what to do? Where was where was your inspiration coming from? We don't have the podcast yet. Yeah. I had my youtube channel was the man I like I think Josh

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listen it you sort of just like pushed,

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like you grab it from what you've done at school. So all your subjects that that pushes you into something, but I think

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I think

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for me, it was just like looking at like a lawn mosque and like Twitter, Twitter, Tesla, SpaceX and stuff. I was like, oh, business would be cool. So I thought I pulled it from there. And then yeah, watching. I've sort of always enjoyed, like watching films and stuff. So I think that probably, you're a bit of inspiration for me to get involved.

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It feels like there's an opportunity for industry and smaller business to get like have incentives to engage with students more to because slightly fucked up that that's the, like, from a student perspective. It's like Tesla, like that's where it's sort of, like, it's, it's great. But there's also like, wouldn't be great if small business and medium sized business was engaged enough in the community, that the dream was I'm going to finish school and I want to work for this business. Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, I think it is everyone thinking that they can do some huge.

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Man, it's Hollywood. I remember being in you, 12. And looking up UCLA and looking up, you know, going to California I had a an IT teacher who was friends with Jay Leno. He's American. I was I

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was actually friends.

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So it's a secret thing. And he failed me. I didn't do my I didn't do my cell sack. He said, If you don't do your Excel sack, you're gonna fail. Right? That's the only thing he said to me. Right? Yeah, you don't do your Excel sack, you'll fail. I said, Okay. Anyway, I got my results back. If I can find out why did you do your exercise? I didn't do the thing is that like, it shows? You know, it's it. The thing is, it shows you within the school, it's like that. If I went to a private school, yeah, they would have been fucking meetings and pulling in parents and being like Josh is gonna fail it. Now. That's not true. Don't you think missing? I said I went to

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private school $15,000. I went to public school. And I had some of the most supportive teachers in public school. No, but my point is that

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like, I think the private school I don't know. But I feel like private schools might have more of a reputation to uphold. They try get they try really like elevate all I mean, it's in the best interest of everyone to elevate students, but I think, yeah,

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they would have gotten, I would have been kicked out of the school. I reckon if I was doing what I was doing, where it's like, it was just okay. Like, it was a one flippant conversation of I never do that. Exactly. Don't do what you'll fail. Versus definitely, I reckon most schools and most and even teachers, even classes within that system, and the school I went to, would have had multiple sort of things before they said, Okay, yeah, I lose. I actually thought in my head at my a sign that be so loose about it. I'm sure is fucking I pass music industry. I didn't do any of my coursework. I didn't do any of the textbook work. But my teacher said, Look, if you film my he was in a queen cover band. Yeah. And he said, If you come to it was music land in the western suburbs. He picked brain I up and we went to music land.

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And I feel

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I filmed I filmed his gig, and he passed me.

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That's

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good.

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I think for from this talk that we did yesterday. It is interesting to see how we're in a bubble. The people we consume Seth Godin, the people, we've had them podcast. I mean, they're fine. Yeah. So I, the learning is like, whatever you think is going on around you. There's some alternative reality happening outside of that, and many worlds is totally many worlds. And maybe it's like we see what we're doing the paper ways of viewing. They are making up the sort of bubble of the world that we're in. And they're sort of leading in some ways. But there's Yeah, I guess it's like the radio about when we spoke to

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Bianca Chatfield, who's a professional netball Australian champion. She was like the nipple bubble. Yeah, like they're all here. And so if we can gain some perspective on the bubble that we're in, and look at, look outside, maybe it's where we find some inspiration or just different ways of doing shit. But the

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proximity effect, it's that like, who you're hanging around with, what are you consuming? I think that all that's just really important.

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Let's

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