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- October 23, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Tuesday October 23 (Ep 201) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
We’re back in Melbourne! What Josh had to deal with at airport security, the content Tommy created the last time he was in the US, learnings within a relationship after time apart, not feeling different after three months of travel and trying to impress your counsellor at therapy.
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Yeah, we're back. This is our first episode back in Australia. It's I definitely am feeling the momentum. We've been working on some good stuff today.
Yeah. Buddy, can What do we call them company values,
your company values and just looking for a first acquisition. But it's good. I like I like the momentum. It was an epic trip.
Yeah, you're talking very loud, which is crying a little bit of reverb. Oh, God. So if you just talk a little bit quiet, you get less of the reverb.
You know, the problem is I'm standing up Yeah, I'm getting a bit antsy. You're a bit like it like a better noise
As ash Williams would say, ya know, so this will eventually where we are right now in calling model, which will turn this into a studio soon. Yeah, this is the big media company. Ah, cute. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. I can't find remember. I the on the flight before. Before I got the flight. I went through TSA. A couple of things a test a first of all, they pointed out a that went through my books. My Seth garden books, and pointed at one of the photos of Seth. You know the about the author? Yeah. Which book is it? Which was the it was the
Anyway, she was flicking through it all pointed at Seth said he's a scientist, I think. And
well. Seth is a bold man. Yeah. And you? And you could definitely I mean, he weighs like a lot of suit and tie. So you could think he's this. And so I just
went with it. But then she said, I think he died in March. Oh, God. Yeah. And so when from a yes to just a like a, like a half nod? Because you just don't want to disagree. But it wasn't going too well. But because before even that the other TSA officer on the side as I was going through his I lifted my top I said is my belt going to be okay going through? And she said yet small enough. Then as I walk out with my hammer, they have a small bounce. I looked down with him wearing a belt. She was it was clearly she thought was so small that she couldn't even say it.
Do you think in these moments where there is like lots of rules in place you have to do you think you get a bit awkward in those moments? Like there's a lot of structure?
Yeah, going through airport security? Well, I'm just I try. I try and lead with the fact that I know that it's normally a little bit difficult with all my camera gear. So I start telling him how it is. I'm like we need to take, I need to be able to lay it all flat.
Yeah. Well, on any of those flights that I took to the US, I'd say in your carry on luggage. If there's any electrical goods are like you know, anything. What do they say bigger than a iPhone? So bigger than a phone? Yeah. need to take the map? And not always say, is there anything in this in that? My camera was in there? With all my other technical we're and
did they pick up on?
Yeah, never once did I take me off? Fair enough. I was only on three flights over the last three months. Four months. You've been on? Me fly. So yeah, there's a bit of a difference. Yeah. But I didn't get picked up. So.
so so good. So you've been back a few more days in May. what's the what's the word on the street? What have I missed out on?
You've missed out on the shitty weather, which is lovely. So you've come back tonight? Well. Now I've just been waiting for you to get back so we can get cracking on what we're doing and getting over the jet lag. But I was thinking as some thoughts on the trip that we talk. And I was talking to me about this. And I was thinking the type of content we were creating was very different. And I can only go on what I did last time that I went to the states and we talked I talked about this as like the sack on that Jewish land. Two different types of content. One was almost like shock jock esque. Or like high. It was almost like instant response, you know, a bit shocking style of content
a little bit more like the prank videos or something like that close to it. And then I mean, you did the ones that I remember is you kicking a footy?
Yeah, in your undies? Yeah, in Times Square.
And the other one was you asking where Danny was?
Yeah, which they had no clue Americans thought I was saying Danny's because they don't use the term Danny for toilet. And many people think Australians don't but I do. It was the Danny is it what was that was the learning the learning was the reward on creating that style of content, the shock or the instant reward content? Or the prank style content? is really high. In what you get out of it in the moment. Yeah. And, and for me, it like, stimulates that kid in me that was like, being a little shit. And doing something where you know, you're sort of in trouble. But think about like the kid in the school. Yeah, just putting the finger at the teacher and God I'm out of here.
It's like, feels really good. People are giving you like a bit of an adrenaline,
adrenaline. But it's it's very it's it's not rewarding in an actual black life sense of life. Why
main one king in the middle of the road would probably give you an adrenaline Could you imagine the adrenaline rush during it would be good or bad?
Well, if you commit to it, then it would just I would be
feeling it probably would be
my this is why people do that kind of shit. Because it's it's extreme. Yeah. And so there's there was a there was a response within you that is quite extreme. And so yeah, it's very drug addict esque, that you would try to get the super high from something. Yeah, but what I found from what we will do it, and then the comparison, I only have what I can go based on what I'd done before, is super high reward instantly. Like a he's a drug when I did in 2012. But how trip was like, so much more in alignment with what I what I value now. And what I want to be doing and has this sort of more like it's a wholesome value of what you're doing. It's more thoughtful content. We're turning
into a Christian podcast.
I know I but I was thinking in the moment is like, I'm enjoying this. I love what we're doing here because I
believe in what we're doing, why am I wearing clothes?
Now if it seriously, it was like, I definitely notice the difference in comparing the two trips about what what this type of stuff we were doing. And we like my content that I created years ago, isn't really serving anyone. Now, the stuff we did over this the chance we had,
could live on and help people? Or is it there was no real hell week? So are you proud enough putting it on your LinkedIn? Which is like no, like as in the stuff that we're doing? Yeah, it feels like it may be would be worthwhile in our professional network. Yeah, definitely.
Definitely. It's interesting that the phases you go through in life and what you're putting out there. Yeah, I think it's that and that's, I think, why what we've been is like a bit of an art form, because it's like it's represent, to leave representative of a time in the life. And we will look back on that trip we did as like, a certain time of our life. And what and it was, I don't know, maybe we'll look at it again. I don't know maybe we'll go back to being these. The waggons in the street.
That I was
saying I went back to it was
pretty close. The dude nude in Times Square. So this was the what was the learning of being away from Bodie? For? I'm guessing that was the longest time and I mean, oh, man, kids change so quickly. He's like, he's word count.
And even just you being away Let you think you're slowing him down on the word count.
In fact, he was away over the weekend, and he's worried can't shut up again. Now I actually, I hope that it's just a tiny thing. But it was great. Like, as long as I mean, I've spent apart and I don't know, maybe it's maybe, I mean, you've done the opposite. You've been in, in each other's pockets. Yes. So like it That's intense to you. What have you felt from? Sorry, the learning for me, being away from my wife, it is good sometimes to have
a break any big conversations when you got back if like a like now that we've been apart for, you know, a couple of weeks, I was feeling this. And I've actually now have had that time of thought I understand this.
There was something this is will go. So I I'm pretty
excited. I'm decisive
Or I'm pretty directive in what I want. And and I think you're a bit like this too. We kind of like, lead the way and you know, picking what movie we're going to or what we're going to watch or and and Amy's a bit. What's the word? agreeable? Yeah,
but it not passive, but just not be till? Like, maybe a bit of a people plays a little bit. Yeah.
And so that I think for people who are agreeable come across, it actually isn't facing them. Right. Yeah, she's not feeling like I'm, you know, she's like, Okay, I see this some good bits. And that I'll watch
that. And they can be I guess I can be a risk with that, where it's like when I'm unfazed. So there's certain things that I'm unfazed with, which means it defaults to brain. So for instance, it's like, you know, as we mentioned, on the Central Park, Episode, washing and stuff like that, I'm less fazed with those sort of, like her trigger point of when she's like, we need to do something about this. Yeah, he's way lower than when I start. Yeah,
yeah, exactly. And so I think it can go on the sofa. And so I had a thought, where, when I was a while I was like, it's it's, it's more of a challenge for me to be open with someone else picking something, because I think it's probably I could be a bit of a control freak. I was actually
circumstances it was a less of a, because I thought with the way that you were sort of talking about the beginning, I thought that might have been more of a learning for Amy, that she has to make more decisions. But were you saying that it's actually it was you being away and realising that I was, was I leading the way in some cases or me personally? Yeah,
yeah, I think so my thinking was, which I said to her, and it's funny, because she was on the same page with thought on the other side, the receiving and she's agreeable, so no, no,
she was almost going, Okay. Maybe it gets to a point where someone is making too many decisions. And you start, it's a tipping point. weilai. Hang on a second. It's like, I actually, like maybe it's like, you're agreeable to the point where you then work out that the agreeable isn't feeling that great. So it goes beyond being agreeable. Or you're being agreeable to be a people pleaser rather than agreeable, because you don't care. Yeah. Maybe the things that you care about, you start sacrificing or compromising it, because it's a whole thing. It's like the sales technique, which is like, let's get them into a yes, you know, into a pattern of saying yes, and they're more likely to keep signing. Yes.
Yeah. And then the maybe that's not what I
want. So it's like, you know, do you like sports? Yes. Do you want to watch the footy on the weekend? Yes. Do you want to sign up for this Fox tail package? Yes. or? No, I didn't. Like that. Yeah. And and so what what was Amy's Fox tell
it show, my thought was, it is more of a challenge for me to be cool. with whatever we're doing or being, I guess, less agreeable. But I see that challenge is something that is not a negative. But if anything, it's more rewarding for our relationship. Because I probably felt that she was she had there was a strain on there because of some of the because of the type of person I am. And I'm not fucking the most easy person to be around. But I honestly had that. Only I don't even know how I had that thought. It just came to me from having a bit of time apart from, I guess, being so close to each other where every decision you were making is affecting the other person were on the other side of the world. Yeah, he's chatting on the phone as the baby, how you doing? You're good. You're not saying let's leave this time, oh, let's go there. And then maybe even you experiencing some of that
general sort of decision making with someone else.
Your time as well as BMI like I was being
maybe I was giving the pushback that I can give, which may be being like, I'm he's not that fucking bad way of hanging out with Josh, do you think that could be was it? Maybe that makes
sense? That makes sense. And so it's, so the week I got back, I had, like, I don't think we actually had that conversation until a little bit until later in the week that I got back. And so give me a couple of days. And I said, because I took maybe took me a little while to articulate that what I'm saying now. And she said, I've noticed that and I was feeling that says I it's interesting. I think Tommy pot can be,
you know, a good thing for perspective, I definitely shifted. What was the things that you were leading on that you think that you might have been out of place leading on
a theme? I think for a person like me, it can be little things, what we're watching what we're eating, where we're going, that don't even feel because because the person it's not like you? I think you'd have an opinion, Adam? Yeah, I feel like that we're going this right now, if I would have bought heads down and come up with something. But I, you know, for me, it I don't think it is like that.
And that's all people can say that assertiveness as you being very clear on your decision. Yeah. But even you and I have been working on that, which is like, you have a level of assertiveness sometimes when you don't actually not like it's realising that even though Tommy says now go this way, this is the way to go. There's a 50% chance that we're still going the wrong way. And then so there's a willingness to you have a willingness to just back it in Yeah, when there's still may be where I would maybe in some of those moments, double check. And Bry is like a triple check around things, right? Like if I say, and it can be, you know, and that can create tension, where it's like all say, are we go this way? And then I'll look at price. I'm like, What are you doing? So I'm just checking on Google Maps. I said, I know where we're not like I've said, Yeah, relationships if
you have to, it's being considerate of the other person.
So what's the actionable items? And when have you picked up on the fact that you've said, I mean, you had the luxury of being able to, you know, have that time apart with Amy being away, you know, straight after you got back as well, so that she got to experience something a bit different. So you've both come back to the home with a little bit of a reset?
Yeah. Yeah. And so I think it's, I don't think there's any harm in trying to be a little bit more selfless in your approach.
But do you think I think that you can be those as assertive and be selfless at the same time, which can maybe lead to you falling in that like, so the thing is that I can be a control freak. But it's under the guise that you say, guys under the guys, who is who you are. Yeah, if you're under guides, under the guides, like you're being guided
under the guides.
Under the bed, I will do two things at once. I'm just going to google it under the guy that before. So, no, it can it can be wrapped up in this idea that I'm doing what's best for everyone else. But there's an arrogance in thinking that you know, what's best for everyone else. So it's like, No, I'm doing this because this is what we what we need to do right now. But if you question every every sort of reactive response emotionally, that goes on within you, and then say, like you said, Do you really care about that under the guise that God is he dies? What death? Do you know what this is going to turn into a word of the day? I don't even know guess what guys mean? If it's under the guise, guys, I think it's something to do with guiding like, a map or like an under the guise. So it's like, watch watch for life. Somebody who knows the direction and external form, appearance or manner of presentation, typically concealing the true nature of something he visited in the guise of an inspector. So that's interesting. So it's like, under the guise, it's like, it's like, sort of cloaked in this bullshit. Like, it's a fake? Yeah, I've done a great job.
So yeah, so if you were to question everything, I think and then re, and maybe I quite enjoy questioning what my response is to something. And I think that takes perspective. And I a lot of the time, don't have it, when you're in the moment. And maybe that's what it took being out of the situation to have some perspective on that. And it is nice to be able to
question Okay, is that it? Is there a specific example when you think in the last few nights or whatever, where something's happened, and you've said, Robin and being like, watching this, or let's do this, it's, you've asked the question, what do you want to do?
No, not not recently? Not no big No, this was the only because she only got back yesterday from Sydney. And then I had four days she was out there. And that previous week, was that time that I had that sort of realisation we had that conversation yeah and and so yeah, hit me up keep me accountable.
I mean, work it working out what to have food wise.
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Hello Fresh
has helped we had a delicious This is this sounds like an integration I said it should be I said we should get how I fresh on is our first sponsor, but we had like a you cooked up a Kevin era for you and Amy, Amy left her lunch box in the car. So I had the Kevin era delicious little little bacon bits. Oh, how many eggs for egg or
eggs cheddar cheese was Parmesan cheese you the thread through Kevin are it's less of it was less of a like Sue creamy, fatty, always healthier for a healthier version didn't have all the cream in it. But I loved it. It was so good. But I made that because I knew Amy would be tired and needed food. Like I think I think the thing of like, having a family. It's like fuck you looking. And it's not a life hack. But as I you looking for the moment, and I definitely think ahead more so now than ever to go what point will that take time for me like the cooking thing? It's like I don't want to, I want to have food ready. So when we get home, we've done it as the amount of times I haven't done that in my life.
What's so easy and enjoyable to like, I think that the biggest element of all of those things is whenever I get asked to do something, I don't want to do it. And for whatever reason it sits in my brain if it's a bad thing, if I get asked it's like it becomes a chore. But I love cooking. Yeah.
See the The only time I've seen you cook, it probably takes seven hours because you're doing a slow right? I'm doing
like a slow land. I say
I can't believe you haven't fucking cooked out for me. Yeah, and I haven't.
We haven't had a nap. Okay, well, we don't have a homeless at the moment. Hi, lyst. We're with the homeless. Think I should we shouldn't say homeless because we've just been to the US where it's a real fucking problem. But we don't have a home. It is true. I'm unless I'm home. Exactly. Yeah. And so we're at my parents place in Rovell for the next. We've only got three days until we're headed to
what? Tonight is Tuesday? Yeah.
We had on Saturday we start housesitting in Richmond again, J as
well. We did a whole bunch of episodes from Yeah, we had
a Mrs. Episode from there. But so we're housesitting breeze, all busing in place, which is good. And then another friend has reached out who has a great place in Windsor. And this is going to be a why December? Yeah. The thing is, do we
The question is do we just house it for the next couple of months? Because we haven't we haven't committed to the second one yet. We said Oh, yeah, we could do it. Let us know. But we haven't sort of pushed on it. You've pulled a James L teacher who ended up a been being that guy is a pod quickie dude from New York. What did he do? He got rid of his apartment. And he just Airbnb places to live it.
Just like a venture capitalist or something.
Get a bunch of cash.
But his whole thing was just getting rid of everything, throwing out stuff, and only having a vape because it's like you don't have your own place. So for the next sort of for the next little while, next two months or whatever. But the thing is that Brian and I were talking about, we felt slightly anxious being back like there's been moments where it's like, you expect when you go away? Like it what you go away for three, three and a half months. There is 112 days. Yeah, yeah, there's, there's a sense that you, you going to you You're really seeking routine, right. So by the time it like it starts off, you know, you have fun throughout the whole thing. But it definitely I felt any way that you get to a point where it's like, I'm looking forward to work, I'm looking forward to the, to the day to day grind, summer, God's doing stuff. And then you come back. And it's not like you flick a switch back to the daily grind. You don't come back because what you're seeking is actually the life in some regards that you left behind, which is the apartment that you had, the the way that you ordered the food cuz we didn't cook but we will start curry, you have those way over a while you over eight, you do have those systems in place. The thing is that us housesitting is almost just extending the travel
was counter to that. And I think what you need to also keep in mind is that the previous life you had took time to create. And so you're in this period of time where it's going to take, you know, a certain amount of time to find the furniture, you want to find the apartment you want to create the life again, that you live in. Yeah. You missing being away, like you missing being
not sort of,
it's a different mindset, you missing that holiday mindset. You've had 400 days, I think?
No, I don't think I'm missing it. I think that I've probably, I think that I'm excited about smola intentional trips, where the single focused. So I think that with being away for so long, I was still doing a bit of editing, which I enjoyed. And doing the podcast doing all of these bits and pieces, which maybe diluted some of the experience. I think that Brian, I were expecting that we're going to go away that you have this real enlightened moment and then you're going to come back super different, but it goes very quickly. I think maybe the trip I did with in Vasco with Nissan would have been a little bit more poll. trolls us on Reddit, I think was it Fred? it? Yeah, the first Reddit thing we had was going to mention in Votto a nice on again, so. But no, the Yeah, I think that was maybe more transformational in some regards, because it was bringing our wife apart for three months. Whereas this, you just get into it, you get into your own
travelling habits. I think maybe when you will notice it is and this is what I've found for travel is the next time you go. So the next time like it's like the first time you go away ever get on a plane to another country. And you'll experience the airport and all of that shit that goes with travelling, knowing stuff as well as the great stuff. The next time you do it, you just cruise through it. And so then so I don't know maybe it's only until the high high end side will be when you feel that enlightenment. It's never the way that it's there's no it's not like you could sell it like three months trip around the world. And you'll be a lot a Pray Love. Exactly. That's why you don't buy into the bullshit ebook sell about becoming a travel influence.
Yeah, because it's so unique. So it's not bad. What you've just said you had an amazing time. That's a thing. I think that it's it's all in the framing. I I always like to try and give people a realistic view of things. Maybe. But you have to have that experience. You have to squash the dreams. You need to you need to actually do even though it's not the magical thing. It's sort of it is because what it does is it makes you appreciate everything else around you. It makes you appreciate your relationship. It makes you appreciate the it's in some regards. It's I also love nostalgia. I'm obsessed with looking back on the Addy create nostalgia, also the thing that will what's going to happen is because that was in the present. Like I'm talking about it. If you think about it, all the best things that I think about are always further back. The further back you go, the more sort of reminisce like Yeah. And so I think in some regards, it will take a year, two years for brain I to look back and be like, Man, what an experience that was,
you know, what did these and I mean, I had a moment of it recently, we were just thinking about being the single parent sort of single child lyst marriage, like a childless partnership. And the difference, it's now Oh my
god. Well, the thing that I noticed is it's like, it becomes like when you face time, it's like your attentions on both because you got this little kid. So then it becomes this, like, when I would face time Bry when I was away, it was like her and I having this moment. Do you find it difficult? Because that FaceTime moment is you've got two beings that you're sort of trying to communicate?
Yeah, hundred percent. I think their focus is fine. I like I need him know more about Bodie. If he's not okay. Yeah. And so that's the thing that focus shifts from what I think why marriage, a lot of, you know, families that, you know, marriages that aren't stable can fall apart. Because it is it is a shift in what the tension is, first and foremost for and that's the child. And then the partner
is actually discuss thing where it's like we talked about a lot and so it's that thing of Okay, you like, we need to face time, but it's actually not for you and I it's for you and your son, and now it's not really separated like that now to fit more of his family unit.
When I think about face Tommy, I want to see Bodie, nav, yeah, like I never thought, of course, it's like, show me what he's doing. I want to give an update. And so it's, but I think it can seem outweighed when you're saying out, can I see body or like FaceTime? Because you thinking it's just wanting to see the baby, but that's what you navigate. Someone said to me, What? What did what happened when you got married? Like, what's the difference of being married? I thought, for me, it's the I never thought there would be much of a difference. But the difference is that it's not a thought anymore. So I don't think about like this thoughts, you think that are people putting pressure on my, my auntie, you know, my mom saying when you're getting married, are you guys getting married, like, it just goes so it shifts it into another gear where for me, it felt like there was a whole bunch of stuff that I just wasn't thinking about. And it's not that I was focusing on them before. But I've just noticed that I that it's not a part of any thinking now no brain power is dedicated to that. And so it shifts this into another gear. And with babies, it shifts it into another level of thinking because you you were forced into into it with a baby, it's just a different time period of time that you are required to think differently.
Do you think that takes a bit of the romanticism out of the relationship 100%
hundred percent, but even that, like potentially that marriage during the marriage bed, because in a sense of you know, like that beginning when it's in like it's not all done and like you haven't done the wedding and all that sort of six, four times a day. You know, I think it's a different time and and you know, even with Bry so long you've been basically married with that you feel like it is a there's a content feeling being married I feel like we're in this we've got so turns into this whole other friendship, of just trust in you. It's your best friend. And so there is which you could easily look at the previous which I don't and think it's it's not as good as it used to be. Because I don't I'm not quiet or I don't think like that where it's like what's moved into is a better time than previous because I that was a time that was a period of time in my life. Yeah. Be like the person looking back. Maybe this is you. looks back each auto is the be pegged. Useless at cavity.
Exactly. Janssen Productions 2004.
And so now is the best time you're more involved in you. Well, it's a storey I'm telling myself that now is the best. And I honestly think i think that Yeah, I love it. And it's awesome.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a it's the romantic keeping, keeping things romantic. We've seen the context of something that can be quite operational in the centre and utilitarian especially when you have a kid. Yeah, I think it can be as simple as even as you said, it's flexing a different muscle working as a team to be able to get from one part of like when Bry when we discovered that she didn't have a Esther visa sorted and we had to get her visa in the like, out. Next check in before we got our flight and the pressure of doing all of that all of that team work within travel. It's it's not romantic, but in some regards it like it brings you closer at the same time. Yeah,
yeah. I mean, I've done counselling before. And we're going to do it again. Because it's a different time and it helped tapes. And so it's like you
do it the churchy type, right because he was I guess she sort of still is religious to certain Yeah. And that they offer that as a service. I think ya know this Yeah. I don't know if it's like the heat was me. He'll song Yeah, she went to song went to heal song. I don't know if that maybe they? I could imagine that the counsellor also plays acoustic guitar.
I was gonna say is it's free?
Yeah. Well, I'm pretty sure I remember a friend of mine, who they do sort of like premarital counselling that's provided by the church.
Yeah, it's, um, it's interesting counselling for couples. It's a bit from what i've from doing it, it's like, you don't feel like it actually, the moment I didn't feel like it was amazing. Cuz you gotta leave with the person that you go into this thing and talk about so you say all these things.
But it was a resentment in the sense of like, you'd say these things. didn't feel like it was a safe space where you'd walk away and feel good. Or were there was a picking at wounds that took time. So
the thing is, I was lucky I don't the I haven't gone to each other with a hacksaw and there's open wounds. So it's like we are in a place this things that she she each other about each other. She does sales about each other. You know, there's things that annoy each other about the other person and so No, but I what I do remember is just go walking out and then because you you then have a retro perspective conversation with the person that you're at counselling and to try and help Yeah, you know that you're trying to sort of grow with interest Yeah. Yeah, the woman and then you talk about Yeah, I think she was projecting I think when you get like, I don't know if this is ego speaking. But you know, if you know she would think that we're quite progressive as a couple of you know, we're already getting a bit of a win under your belt about like all the other couples will be talking about this stuff and you know, taking charge of a marriage but um, it does it helps. It helps. Yeah, what did you write on your eroad on your the photo that we posted from where we in and out? Yeah, you know, I I just thought this I just want to have a look at it as a cute little photons and nice A special thanks to the love of my life. Bry for supporting the podcast, from being cool with me doing close to 100 episodes from now European Europe holidays, helping Tommy and I run a New York City and La recording episodes. I fact that I bet either way I thought
I hadn't said thank you. So thank you to break and thank you to you. Yeah. And thank you for me for like allowing you to do it as well.
Well, we're getting relationship counselling.
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