- July 26, 2018
The Daily Talk Show — Thursday July 26 (Ep 138) – Josh Janssen & Tommy Jackett
Does it really matter if people know where you live, smoothing your skin for Instagram, how you’re meant to walk and our big The Daily Talk Show Kokoda Track trip
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conversation sometimes worth recording with Josh Johnson and Tommy jack it's a daily Talk Show Episode 138 again Good morning Tommy jacket. Good evening Josh Jansen coming to you live from an island
Bongiorno or to me bonus era I'm good I've just had some lemon cello so let's say you're you're a bit loose your bit loose happen and ready to guy I can't remember what we spoke about yesterday that that was like dryness but lemon cello is very lemon cello was that what we had
yeah it was very close to dry my lips and um yeah the so it was that after data that they gave it to what we're doing
yeah we had dinner dessert and after desert when they were giving us the bill yeah
they gave it to us. Yeah we've I've actually got lemon cello in the fridge if you have legit lemon cello it's like strong but a lot of bad has a lot of places in Australia they just give it to you at the end and it's like watered down lemon water it's lemon water with a hint of alcohol in it knows that this was ridiculous straw
was I was actually worried that they had given me some sort of cleaning you know liquid just didn't didn't didn't feel like it should have been going down my God Jesus you
know you know there's like people who get alcohol poisoning some in some European countries is people are like oh noes even in Thailand and stuff people will having like pure alcohol and now getting super secret at some places and those locker yeah it's almost
like sparking someone take advantage the weird thing is that it's the only the only time that I ever do drink is when traveling if it's sort of like a cultural experience was probably the riskier
and of the of the drinking I'm having I like I nearly fucking broke my elbow during the night I me left issue out and I just stepped on it because it's still it's still like pitch black here at the moment. So I've still feel like I'm actually
I don't know what the point is of having video for you and i right now because I can barely see anything you just say my teeth and my my bead makes it look like it's just teeth. Yeah. So reseller people who don't know I'm in Italy. Tommy is at home in St Kilda and yeah there I might give
away my dress what Jeff
was very close to actually did hear a guy on a podcast someone asked what neighborhood in Brooklyn he lived in and he's like our that's personal information don't really want to give that away but the dude makes YouTube videos where he's constantly showing his house and NEA where he lives I feel like I feel like that's really low risk to tell someone what suburb urine you reckon
yeah yeah I think very low risk definitely the suburb straight maybe it's like well I depends on I mean if you what's status you're at what celebrity status here at
you like well this is the funny thing like is Lord level I'm like bro like so you should add because at the end of the day it's like you know like all of your neighbors who you don't know they know your address actually know your unit number it's just sort of a weed it's a little bit we maybe maybe you need to be stalked first to fully appreciate privacy yeah I don't well I
think if they thought about it you like it's quite easy to find someone's address you could find my address on online I've had about seven addresses that's a good thing about
the agency yeah if you just moving around like I've moved like eight times or something or I can at least so so right about having my P o box Have you checked the P o box by any chance? No It seems to 100 not since last time and going off last times checking it that it won't have more than maybe two because there was only one piece of mail when I last checked it so yes you had nothing right it was it was a bill if anything yeah it's
pretty pretty light level
he was more of a statement than a bill because it was a bill we probably probably should open it unless I want to um. I've just got a bone to pick but fucking I've just seen so many people using that stupid face like softening app Have you seen that she likes it like a face churn sort of thing yeah I think Yeah, face shoot it like a bit it makes you look like you've just legit photoshopped and done a real job at it and and and it's just ridiculous I saw someone using it on the kids so they weren't even in the photo but they put it on the kids faces
so that's that's the end of it. It's pretty wrong. One year I remember being on when I was working on Fifi and jewels jewels got caught called out for photoshopping his kids get staff from doing Yeah, he had been doing it. I think it was sort of a bit of a foreigner whether whether it was okay. Or not. But a little bit tweaking here and there, but I haven't I haven't edited a photo. The probably the The only thing that I have done
of light would be lowering the exposure of my photos while I'm traveling. Because I've got like a sick ass 10. I want to make sure every time I looked back in every every photo is underexposed. If you look at Josh Johnson on Instagram, yeah, it's like all of a sudden, they just you can barely say what's going on in the photo.
So you see the difference. You actually know how to make it look like you actually had a good 10 I've looked like I've been in your eyes look like I've had a fight tank because I just app the saturation
saturation. It's all about it's all about the lowering the exposure a little bit. Yeah,
it's um, yeah. Now there's a photo that I that oh, we actually got them down. Remember? We do.
What do you call it? The Daily talk show photos. headshot. headshot. Probably my shots classic
Amy had who hadn't done just because we she jumped in. So paint the picture. We had a shot down by guy named cam he's he's an absolute legend. What's he saying? I'm cam cam coke. Yeah. Great. Instagram really good. And the helped us out with doing these promo shots and on the day Bodie and and I me with it and I jumped into a photo with me and it was amazing it was like people like thought that we had this setup done for just Bodie I mean I was already there and I just jumped in and he managed to capture this amazing fucking photo that we're going to have printed and put up on the wall but Amy wasn't happy with a hair
and she wasn't prepared
for she was hundred percent not prepared make she she was there supporting me in morning to go because she was exhausted and she was doing us a solid her her hair hadn't been washed and she was concerned about a hair and she had someone Photoshop in to make a hair look lashes and I'm okay with this over the face fucking softening thing because you can't tell now I'm would be out of point out that she's actually got thicker luscious hair filter on but that's about the extent of where it is but the the face the face softening needs to fucking stop yeah well
I just don't know if it's a good good look I don't like that's if if it looked good It might be one thing but if it's if it's done poorly it yeah I don't think it's a I think it's a great thing the thing that I've been thinking about of light is a profile pics and how often you should be changing them and and i also have that thought where it's like if you like At what point how much do you have to have changed before you need to up your you know redo your social media pic yeah
I think if you've gone through a rebrand like you do you have to I'm
just so we've changed as to actually now I've still got mine as myself and I mean you see I haven't changed my I haven't changed my facebook profile in these two years. 2016 was the last time I updated and it's Facebook in general. I'm just not spending any time on I changed my Instagram This is very inside baseball talk. But I changed my Instagram to be like a brand page so I could I can't remember why there was a reason behind it. I think he gave you more analytics or something but then it connected up to my brand Facebook page so I no longer send my photos to Facebook so I'm not posting at all the only thing I use Facebook for now is looking back at Facebook memories
yeah I'm on Facebook a bit more but if I'm going on the pattern that I've noticed in my profile photos every three years 2016 was last time I put up pull it up before that 2013 jewels London night the snow
on snowboard so probably next year Josh 2019 where you'd be a bit just imagine if you were in the dating saying how how full on that would be I remember I was included in someone's Tinder
profile pic and someone sent me a screen grab How pretty honored to feel like I was sort of in that space that I was that he would somehow look cool if it was associated with me or maybe he considered me he's ugly friend and it was a way of sort of
now I think you Sam Mac who we had on the show a couple of weeks ago he he had a couple of people using photos with him on the Tinder and then didn't connect them up on on the show man
He's so good at content I've been following his Insta stories is he's been getting like a bowl cut or whatever it's cold and it's just he the amount that he can leverage his ideas and just like take it to another level I think I'm thinking of a rebrand what would end Bahamian hipster now I'm not joking
long hair piggyback growing my hair out longer like a man bun. Yeah, but not not short sides. Like just go the full hog.
Just start with the I mean if you can a man about
knows. Yeah, you're right. Sorry. I'll see you've liked that top. Not thing that because we don't. That's a bit done. If you go to top lot. Sorry.
My head like Bodie. You may God have his mileage so why not? Why not do that as well?
Well yeah so I haven't I haven't caught it in a while so I'm thinking just going out then there'll be a full full rebrand
my first attempt and will have to get you promo shots. Well I'm even thinking about that with once I get back from my trip. I'm gonna have a sick tan but also the other weird thing is I growing up I had like really blond hair and then for whatever fucking reason we decided to like tip my hair which was completely unnecessary like bleach when it was already blonde
but then as I got older it's gone it went this sort of like basic mousy gross sort of blonde and since I've been away all of a sudden it's like I've got tips My hair is like going like super blonde it is that sounds
like it if you cut it is it just gonna be mousy blonde again? Do you think you know it will as soon as you're out of that sun it was it's gonna lose go darker. Like Art Gallery. My head goes so dark in the in the winter
she came over at the other day. And I said if you dyed your hair she said not just that the winter.
So we Michelle emailed us with a word of the day.
She told me not to look at the the meaning until we were doing it on air.
So word classic trawling. Michelle he's gonna get a classic Michelle
What are you saying? breezy. I still need it. That's correct. Bray just pointed out. I still need to send Michelle stickers. Yeah, the thing is, this is the treatment of a super fan. This is the problem when the bigger the closer you are as a fan. And she's she's almost gone into family territory where you just start packing, carrying just sort of like it just you get comfortable enough that you get real lazy,
but the with the word ease, say I can't even say the word,
obstreperous. obstreperous. Geez. Do you know what that means? Have a guess about
you always throw these that may you have a guess I've got no clue.
I'm gonna guess obstreperous. Look at he's there's a bit of hacker you've signed a word, it's a bit obstreperous to say that if someone was to Okay, so obstreperous, it would mean it's a long stretch. obstreperous
Have you think, what's your guess now? I'll go with you, I'll support you. Okay, so the it's an adjective and it means noisy and difficult to control. The boy is khaki and. obstreperous
What was that about you
it's got that vibe doesn't know but I was wrong was, I didn't say that you have a bit off obstreperous I don't know if I'm saying it correctly, Michelle also sent a video of a whole sketch of someone scheduled one pronunciation which is a throwback to a previous episode
where he is someone throwing that into a conversation it put a spanner in the works and you'd leave with a sore head trying to work out what they said but you try to not along like he knew what what they were talking about it's man it's hard it's hard integrating new words I reckon like I feel like I've got I feel like I'm not adding that many new words as an adult like I think I've sort of peaked
I wonder if there is an actual science behind that of your vocabulary is you reaches a ceiling and then yeah you just down I feel
like the only thing we learning these sort of industry terms or some shit like that new technologies but I don't know I find it hard to integrate new ones the thing that I have been playing around with and I want to know if you've got any experiences like this but I realized Few days ago brain I will walking up a hill and every time we get like I kick her ass when it comes to walking I'm a super fast Walker but every seven she's three feet it will give you the exaggerated those numbers can we
did this is exaggerated the effect and ability to walk
going up the hills I've realized that I am I'm not that effective. And so I've gone down the rabbit hole of researching how he meant to walk you are good you think you're actually good morning
I'm not as fast as you but I know talking about speed I'm not talking about speed at all when I've come to realize is I think that I'm not walking correctly. How How would you describe how your foot is meant to be when you're walking?
Well the i'd the theory of it is he'll rolling to the toe. Um, but but it's not how most people do it. Yeah, because this is the natural natural way of doing it. But then it's wrong. It's not what those people are doing wrong. Or you realize there's people with both legs who run marathons that probably shouldn't and they automatic and so there's the textbook way and then there's the way that you think this is a way that you just do it. Well, I ended up on like, No joke, the dummies you know, the dummies books. They had an article walking for dummies,
the video on the movie Exactly. I was at the bottom of the hill just like looking this up. And yeah, sure enough, what I've realized is that I tend to walk on the bowl of my face all the time. Like I'm always sort of, I'm always engaging my calf muscles which is why I reckon when I was in London a couple of weeks ago a few weeks ago I got injured because I was just like I guess it's okay if you're walking small distances to be walking sort of incorrectly but once you start walking longer periods that then it becomes a bit of a problem Yeah,
I don't know how much you're going to shift the style of your walk you had to be so conscious You have to do it for so long
to really hard yeah I'm finding it quite hard to shift out I
know I knew a lot of I know a lot of people that walk on the ball their toes I know what I'm I know what you may now I can picture you and how you walk it's kind of like yes it's almost like a little bounce and the galloping galloping all the time. Yeah,
I saw a dog. I just want to want to improve it. And then the other thing I've been thinking about which I don't think I've ever expressed to you. I've been thinking in regards to this walking the reason that I think that I need to get sorted out because I've got this vision that at some point you and I are going to do coder and we'll do the daily talk show from Kickstarter have I brought this up with you before
there's a few problems here
you have asthma
barely well you you have
been I have yeah but you don't get rid of asthma and there's a problem just look up asthma and the kid Carter chart trial. I actually don't think the group's let you do it. If you have asthma.
Um, I don't know like my vibe on it ease. I know you say you can't get rid of asthma boss I used to have asked her and I don't have Esper anymore.
Obviously, it sounds like you're playing right now.
Well, I'm trying to work out the company around the track and cuckolded track young big toy Yeah. So like I mean, I would like to do it could carta A lot of people have died a guy's done it crawling so if if a giant like people
I guess people are dying in the sense of like I remember someone like a plane crashed but like it's not like a crazy walk like it sounds super super crazy is that it's probably literally like what I was walking in London and it won't be all concrete well I think we can do it says that checklist. If you've got mild asthma I'd say I've got mild asthma
and I'm quite fit so it will I don't think it'd be a problem yeah like
that thanks for voicing that and so what was the other concern so asked me what whilst Couldn't we do it
that's all I was thinking we could get like I was thinking we could speaking to my make Chris about it who's done I could code and he was saying that they didn't have internet at all so but one of the things I was thinking is if we could get like Satellite Internet and then we could upload you know do you know would be doing it live would actually be fucking easier than what we're doing now and just upload it each day and just have enough batteries because you don't have power and stuff like that but
so you know we don't nickel it can take four to 12 days to complete depending on the fitness and risk time involved
I think we'll probably we could do it in I
yeah I can seven for now i i
would be nice just because it gives us a little bit of a rest okay well if anyone wants to should we should we open it up to listen as well so we do kick harder to track like it you know make it a real sort of event or should I be you and I the daily talk show does Kokoda well would need some handy and it hasn't helped show Russ Ks Trevor Rob how quad lock crew like a mix. Look. I'm happy every while we're in this stickers braces and Michelle without having without a fucking sticker says viewing
she's not starting until until CNC. Rob's gonna run a business I'm happy for him to just throw in a few band quad locks to team team going that'd be converted into a water bottle holder
but yeah I don't mind that I don't mind well I think this is the the opportunity once we get back I've been thinking about all of these different little small trips or events that we could do just for shits and giggles yeah well I'm like I think one of the first ones that will be doing I would have done trip we've done podcasts remote teams not really but yeah, share button
at Sydney, Krispy Kreme Sydney. But la will be the first one that we're really on the road which will be a small stint of a of a remote it's like a daily vlog it will be like a daily vlog what we're saying what we're hearing what's more happening what we're at yeah actually now it won't be
let's have a bit of a food diary be happy to manage the food diary the thing that with all this traveling though I brought my one dx Marco and I have taken it out I think a total of two times since we've been away at one dx for anyone who doesn't know camera gear is the top of the top of the range the SLR camera it's very thick invoking great for bird photography
photography and just doing
a really nice yeah it's well I initially I had this idea that I was going to be doing all these videos and then I just realized like with the the podcast I get the exactly what I sort of need creatively and I find that I'm spending wireless time just taking photos in general like we went on a walking to
in Florence and I just saw all these people just every stop every site that we arrived in that I can try and get all the ones getting the same photo of the same thing I'm like what's what's the fucking point you never gonna look at these photos again like I literally the only photos I took at the Vatican were the ones I posted on Instagram which was I thought was really funny how they had big Panasonic and Samsung signs as if they were like that bank donated a lot of some sort of Brian deal the other photo that I got was the building like I noticed a crack on the roof and on the crack they had like am a little piece of hardware it's sort of looked like something you'd get from bindings hard to describe but I think what it was was it was a sensor to gauge whether the crack got bigger and I took a photo of that and because bracelet guy so he said what are you taking photos of and I was like I showed her the photos Where's everyone else is getting all these historic photos you did make the to make jewelry do the Leaning Tower of Pisa holding it up with thousands of other people doing this I tell I've had is very true it was the funny thing is that probably 50% of people a serious and then 50% of people are doing it ironically but the problem is that it already is playing in this ironic space so you just sort of falling into the exact same hashtag tourist trap
exactly what trap ironic just you taking some moral high ground of like one upmanship on these people. these suckers like look at me and it's almost just an internal function to make you be able to get past your own insecurities of seeming like a fucking terrorist
done. I was like literally played. And then if I can
I buy mine shot a lot. So Josh, white to you get to grace if you do like San Terranea is legit applause at sunset. So the Sangha the sun just goes down and everyone just starts clapping it's the layer stop the clap and how early you could see the clap Okay. Can you do I reckon if you're if you're staying like on the on the cliff or you know any way with this like close to people, I reckon we'll be able to hear the clap during the podcast if we do it at sunset really let's do that once. Oh, so initially we're going to go from from East Asia or however you say it is the same amount of an ignorant tourist you don't you worry about being a tourist but don't be ignorant because that's what you saw like Bray Bray
to be to be clear I do say Bongiorno and hello Purdue a graph say
which means table for
to what else dress I wanna Sarah
all that sort of stuff but men there are if you can hear zips it's because breeze decided that she's going to repack or bank right now during the podcast but no we were going to be heading away we're going from here to we're getting on a boat tomorrow to go to
back to what's it called the pizza place Naples
pizza place you like my reference point it's a nice place would get robbed yeah sorry man. I fucking love to Naples we I it's actually been one of my favorite spots in Italy so far I love the vibe
fact you are as a tourist Jesus really well what
what to do not like Naples.
Not just got a bad rap for being super dangerous. It like
I grew up near dandy gnome, but
I'm with my people. But no. So within within drive from Naples we get a taxi to Positano but then we'll go and you go to grace straight after that but there's been some crazy fires and stuff
yeah so we've decided that we're going to do turkey neck so we'll do after Positano will be the beginning of August will go and spend a couple of weeks in Turkey
and explore so much fun and has Bri made sure that the schedule is around the daily talk show or
Absolutely, yeah, we have been there every every place that we look at the first thing Bray looks at ease of the Wi Fi score through booking.com. But the problem being is that people thought for me to be clean. But the problem is that people thought that this Wi Fi was a 10 and it was probably a less than a one quality yeah but
I just quickly on my Wi Fi at home I've got you asked me to troubleshoot you can a view to Wi Fi problem. And I I've got a PJ but what I've realized is I literally pay 60 bucks a month to be able to then stream Netflix because that's all it can fucking do. It is the biggest piece of shit. And I actually don't understand how they can have a business. Maybe it's just idiots like me paying just to be able to stream Netflix. I literally can't do anything else because there's just too slow is so so it's ridiculously slow.
he's a he's a life hack when traveling. This has been super helpful YouTube premium which used to be called YouTube bread. It's like a subscription thing. It's like 14 bucks a month. But you can download all like YouTube videos onto your phone. So what I've been doing is because I want to keep up to date with a few subscriptions I have on YouTube, I'll just when I hit some Wi Fi, I just go into YouTube and click download on everything. So then when we're at our she Wi Fi we don't have to use for j Oh, that's a good idea. Did they change it from YouTube Red to YouTube premium because it was
close to read. You
know, I didn't I I don't know why. I guess it probably explains what they did to me a bit better. But it's a more of a premium service. Yeah, exactly.
Hey, before we go
I was on Instagram I got a an ad that Spotify was was sending me three Instagram which was them saying that you can advertise through Spotify. So basically like create an audio ad I and and basically for the the people who don't pay for Spotify, they'll get delivered these ads you can select locations and what sort of thing anyway, I was thinking should the daily talk show have a Spotify add so when people are listening to tunes they just get you and I plugging the show. Yeah, I
don't mind it. So last night I went around to Jules lands house and I was like, Listen, he had music on and then all of a sudden, all these ads came on. First of all, I called him and tied us for not buying the subscription to
modify. But it's actually quite abrupt. So I think it might it might be that bad. I mean, it's it's our first at first entry into above the line marketing. You have that with
what I did. I submitted my details. So they'll get in contact with it all. But I was thinking we could watch should the ad actually have enough? What should we say? What should the content Bay
I think? Just something really not not different? no different. We're trying to be different. But just basic, like think about way paper. We do it now in the car. What you did you start it and then I'll come in. Yeah.
we know you listening to us. I'm telling me.
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What do you think it's very specific? Because you could only play it before Nicki Menashe so now I like it because the funny thing will be
one direction Kevin came on
I wonder if I would I wonder if they would actually decline like it or not is that because we confusing the consumer I think so isn't there could be so many things that you could do like that just you just imagine the
This is an emergency announcement to let you know that that's an apocalypse now you know lads in the
broadcast 101 Josh working in radio you can't be seen to be doing any panic or fucking you know distress signal so that's gonna get bad
yeah including Mickey manage
tomorrow we we have cycling Maven on yeah Mark Ferguson
I'm we recorded that at a cafe a few weeks ago and super interesting dude has a YouTube channel is done is he quit his job at one point to focus on YouTube for time it was in the Navy is just he's just starting a family got a kid so very very interesting so that's that's on tomorrow show and then we'll be back Monday pates yeah and I'll be we will I guess I'll be in Positano but in the meantime, feel free to send us an email hi the daily talk show.com that we hope you enjoy your Thursday. I'm going to bed by now.