#050 – Episode 50 from a bar in Shepparton/

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That the audience clapped dilate, told

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we're live. We're in shepherd. And so these episodes I have happy 50th episode. Josh. Thank you.

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This is big night.

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Who would have thought we were done? 50 episodes?

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I told him at the other day. No, actually, this morning said to him, we're going to ship it in to do the podcast. Is that what do you mean? Like, yeah, we're doing Episode 50 of the podcast. He's like you started that the other week? Sure. Well, technically, 10 weeks ago. It's it's a it's all math isn't it? But we we've decided to go where our biggest audiences and that's in its inception. Well, this is my old stomping ground in terms of where I started out doing radio and on my Instagram account I've got you can see the audience of people who follow me. I've got audience in Sydney, Melbourne and Shepherd him. So for people who don't know tell us about shepherding is it

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is I used to always say North it's not north. Is it north, so northern Victoria. Okay. And, you know, we're just getting confirmation from one of the we've got kids in the crowd, they are definitely going to experience out swearing. But so it's northern Victoria to country town. It's almost like a re a rural fifth biggest city fifth biggest country city in Australia just got that said to us from the crowd. Perfect. So interactive. I remember I I got a message from the person who gave me the job at 12am. One night it was an email this is when you are working in sharpening your this is before I even came to say, okay, so I got this email from this guy named Dave Cameron, whose life was like a big week up in Southern Cross a stereo, also known as grumpy day. I'm a missionary show and so you can email me so Hey, man, how did you feel about doing regional breakfast radio, I shat myself and I was like, Yes differently. And then I moved to ship it in like two months later, which was two hours from my from where I grew up my whole entire life and met this girl and we started doing this radio show five days a week.

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And so we decided to celebrate Episode 50 would come to him because you spent two years yeah, during breakfast radio. Yeah.

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So this is my nostalgia, you constantly bring up nostalgia for me child will be doing Episode 68 when they go secondary colors. So we're definitely not doing any episodes from my high schools or because I was a menace. But this is this I've got lots of good memories. shepherding for me is one of the times in my life that I learned so much in a couple of years and has a lot of fun and killed a lot of brain cells with a lot of alcohol and met some awesome people we actually have one of those people who we talked about on the show quite a bit we have our hype man and to me manager a Mac or a Mac How are you hey guys yeah

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good thanks for having me thank you

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for having us at this beautiful beautiful establishment which is when it comes to venues in ship it and this is one of the places to be the deck

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yeah correct I'd say that yeah

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yeah this is basically an unofficial sponsorship of the show why call it an official This is as official as it gets this issue starts now

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can you paint a picture of a deck and where we are right now Bernie

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So pretty much were located in the middle of the shepherd and save a day so having on a Monday afternoon right now and yeah, we're on top of her scarf

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pretty much and we're just yay enjoying the the views out here on the balcony. She dropped

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my phone vibrating good on these lovely

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cheating on liver catches. So this right now is like a graph. Fake loan. Yeah, I'm synthetic law synthetic loan and it's got seats and you can add here but then it turns into a raging nightclub. We had one night here and I woke up vomiting. Yeah, rough

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and it was a food poisoning now. It was jack daniels.

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I think he I think he told me he was food poisoning

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my wife. But we can confirm that we hear it's good. It's really good food. Yeah, it is. Yeah,

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we'll try some out later. For sure.

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I think we fucked up Episode 40. Which we did live from Krispy Kreme because we didn't have a plan. And my program director who

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is here is the third person in the crowd. He was the payday for you when you were in Shepperton. Yeah, back in 2014, 2014, 2013, 2013

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to 14 and then I then I quit. Yeah,

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so a payday would sort of tell you what you're doing wrong yeah what was

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the common feedback and remember it all blows it was there any feedback well I'm just going to go over the world because that's what we can do what was what do you remember of me what was the feedback you give me I think the big challenge was trying to get what you could do on your social videos through the speakers yeah it was the challenge and that was your preferred platform it's what you're amazing at and it's what I've tried to model in my own work so that was that was just being on the right platform for the right creating Brian that was the challenge so as you saying I was in the wrong the

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wrong job

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you know what very similar to your Mitchell's land that was the jewels one defect he he when I was working on that show it was he built a career on Get away and doing TV yeah and then had to translate it to righty I and he would spend so many hours perfecting the video content

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yeah and Sam Sam have who was producing that show at the time would always have to remind him might this is your care about what's going on through the speakers. quick story i doing everything that I shouldn't have been doing and making online content versus on a content I actually created a piece of content that got onto the project and was in what at one point when you when you googled Tommy jacket into Google and put photos as the filter articles maybe the fourth photo was me nude was the washing machine one with my legs and arms in a washing machine. And here's the thing I was mimicking a guy I was making fun of a guy not really making fun of but I was really inherently Yeah, I was reenacting a guy who was a local bloke was his name Bernie his name was Lawrence Lawrence Lawrence was from a place called Maroon now which is for you guys out of shepherding and why not he was hiding from his missus pretending to be a funny paga got into the washing machine and stack and had the fucking fiber guide come to the house to frame out they had to oily map and he and he slid out

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like a slug

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I feel for memory he had an okay read if that was me it would be the most horrendous

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just this like the the oil that would be like hey I'm was that oil we put on or was that already there

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just mine the bed sores we got him on the show. And then I pretended to make a video and I made a video continues to do that. And then the project use the footage and he's not my naked body on there. But anyway, back to what I was saying. We fact out Episode 40 with no structure so I wanted a little bit of structure will will be proud. My payday we proud right now. So we've got a tray of drinks in front of us that are like fully funky looking beverages. There's like 24689 what colors are they Josh?

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Well, the they start off at sort of the the summer and juicing balloon and I go to a sort of a strawberry read

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the one at the back. Looks like I don't even I had like a purple color. There's something with a lot of maintenance. There's one that looks like a bit hoppy. So what they say hoppy it's like the type thing The thing is TJ I don't drink you don't drink and so here's the thing I don't expect you to drink like actually drink them sure we've we've had them comes from a white man he's done well but what I want you to do keep him at some point throughout the show I'm going to just hand you we can do little sippy sip yeah we're gonna do a taste test and so you have a taste and I want you to say the first word that comes to mind can we can we mix it up where I have to close my eyes and tell you what color I think it is just yeah yeah we

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got the filter of a 1212 hour you

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know 10 at night fact he looks older than four years be

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Can we see kids looking older nowadays let's start with one I'm going to close my eyes I guy given the audience loves it so much you know i

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The problem is closed his eyes okay the eight year old laughing smell it smell it don't tell us anything Have a seat and yes it's it smells like medicine

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first word

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purple yeah

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that was great going

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what's what's the privatized line it's purple

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it's a purple fiber

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is that an actual description I

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don't know but it sort of makes you think about like colors and growing up and like how you actually got that yeah

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he approval five I used to say you remember Dinka Rob. That you'd robot new body after sport. Never did it.

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Anyway, I used to say there was a chewing gum I used to say it tastes like the smell I know exactly

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what you mean it's like D page it's exactly what danger of his name is probably another brand I think my my footage and responsive by a paid. Okay.

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So that's what we're doing and taste test. And throughout the show. And then I also want to do like, what, what's 10 things we've learned from? Yeah,

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I said that I was gonna write a list of things that I'd learned. But I haven't really thought about it. But I do like any. You know, I enjoy any of the sort of retrospectives. Yeah, which will be enjoyable. So we'll do that. But any other stories bit from shipping that you want to hear? I want to know what you were triggered. what triggered you when you came in? What were those moments where you you would look at and say are that McDonald's I vomit in that toilet. So when

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I was late, I was living up here most of my friends were back in Melbourne and I met Amy so what fact me which was kind of a good thing when I moved up here was a fair bit was I think February or March 2013 and in August of 2013 I met Amy and so I'm leaving ship it in you met Amy in Bali Bali sort of a I would say Bergen holiday but it was actually a beautiful wedding yes my brother's wedding one of the last night's will going out I met me at a bar and I see night or Jews land ripped off my underwear like fully to hold my undies off because I didn't have I didn't have by this so I went in everyone was calling me Vlad the rush the other night Why you know like Russian guys were like little little shorts in spars everyone's calling me Vlad okay and jewels ripped off by Andy sounds completely fucking nude sitting next to me anyway and what did I may think she clearly liked it well I didn't know that she was a good little Christian girl at that point

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when you say liked it she didn't change move she yeah she was a bit she was very

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it was interesting what do you mean I don't know what she's thinking because I didn't have any context of who she was so what what yeah so why we naked next to someone you didn't know because I had no underwear and jewels land I had you end up sitting next to her that what was we were friends and then we we met so you'd met the night before or something we know we met that night okay so so your dad is if you say I'd say everyone's my friend and you've met someone and you calling me friend oh she was a friend of the not okay

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friend is

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really bad Tommy's memoir friend of the night anyway so I met Amy Amy doing a fucking great job of hype man

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cackling jack This is great so I yes I met I mean we and we in ended up just chatting hates and she was living in Sydney's I'm living in shipping in which is a two hour drive from Melbourne. And then a one hour plane trip to Sydney. So it to put it in perspective. I used to go and pick her up from Melbourne airport and bring it back to ship it in. I would leave before I'm even went to the airport. Well, that's love, isn't it from both sides. And so we met and then I'm living in shipping them in a long distance relationship.

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So the so the long distance but Well, first, first of all the triggers, triggers triggers word driving here the drive is a few things along the way. And the rooster on the hill. So that was just two trays together which has somehow been described as something other than being to trace it has a Facebook page it gets a run through a Mac yet

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everyone knows about their reassure on their on the hill, there's a tray, there's a Facebook page, it's called the roost. I think it's called the rooster tree Appreciation Society.

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And so a Mac where was it something that when you're growing up that you saw, is this some sort of social media thing? It's just come about? No, I

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think it was something. Yeah, growing up for sure. And, you know, if you get to that point where you were or how far you had to go as well. Could you imagine you would never, ever, ever, ever do this. But could you imagine the effect

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which happens how we were just getting What's it what season? Liam? Liam. Liam is just asking if we want to eat we do we want to? This is rock star. Yeah,

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I'm happy to.

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I mean, yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yes,

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one. Ah, not too. Ah,

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the top nine. So could you imagine what would happen? Do you think if someone was to vandalize the tray so would you say if someone knocked the tree down? Yeah. Well,

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no, I people would actually know about it, I think would be definitely like on the news. But I think there was a scary point during the Victorian bushfires after Oh. Settled everyone was like asking about the tray. And then it was kind of cool. When you did draw back and it's evolved. Let's say the rooster always survives. Well, you've called yourself a bit of a rooster

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if there was a second ship shipping and rooster Is it is it in ship it in or no no no I

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it's where where would that be to curtain? Oh. I'm Farhad. It's about hospital live case out of wallet. And so I'm not sure what that is. So I always had this idea of doing a video about the rooster on the hill. And where I would like do a mission, put my camera gear on and go up the heels to the tree and put like Latinos that would be sorry that people actually see the Russian on the hill. Has anyone

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ever Decker I didn't have we seen any decorations.

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Never seen it. But there was a competition like around here with the local clothing store. And they say get creative with something in our clothing items. And the winner will receive like $100 gift voucher. And one guy was wearing one the shirts and from a store here when it

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had reached one a rooster. Nah, he

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just like had one of the show.

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So it's pretty much like he wants to advertise his business. Yes. So he said, if he were something from my clothes store and put it in a photo. The most creative photo wins. Yeah. So we stopped on the way home from Melbourne one day and took a pretty good photo in front of the rooster tray. Yeah. And he won. He won the competition. I love that. Yeah,

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it shows you how important the rooster is when a pretty good photo will be enough. Yeah, doesn't even have to. It was pretty good. It was a blurry selfie, he said. Had the tray. Rooster in the tree rooster. What do we call it?

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So that's one of the trees you know you almost halfway when you driving from Melbourne to ship it in when you see the rooster on the hill.

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Okay. Talking about roosters for a second and KFC. So Bay Mac was giving us insight into this KFC which is apparently pretty spectacular. We saw we saw it from the outside Can you tell us who winds up Why is a big deal

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so it pretty much started back in the day I couldn't actually give you the year but he came over here is like this PC Yeah. Peter colors. Yeah. And he came over he started working on the orchard and eventually saved up to open up a place called all these trolleys at the time and then these guys from America came over and said we want to start this thing called KFC over here but we want to do we want to do it where you say this where all these trolleys where you saw the case

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like trolleys for

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it was it was pretty much a chicken shop like it was a food shop as well. That's what a yes

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very much like a choco chicken type of

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chicken. It was. Yeah. It was like yes. chicken legs he like before he's time this is before his time. Yeah. Yeah. And then he said no, no, no, no for a long time. What I can say yeah, I'm gonna do my own single sheet

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and they weren't tracking

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and they went in and rested. I'm calling bullshit on these guys. They're going

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good. So we could have continued on for about five more minutes. Eventually he took a flight and he went overseas and yeah, he saw that this KFC thing was legit and tried to potato and gravy and said this thing is it's it and he obviously was very smart businessman say he actually didn't want to lose his actual ownership of the brand. So he offered a deal to KFC where he would buy it outright. Almost like starting a franchise sort of thing but not have to pay KFC itself only for the recipes and things like that. So he's like the outright owner of the store. And that's how he built up yesterday

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says hey,

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owning the franchise in Australia. Or how did how does kind of say work?

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Well, pretty much you can apply like 4k say it's very, very, very hard to get so much like

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you would have to pay to say, you know what, I want to have a KFC in my house. Yeah,

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pretty sick. But now I'm many dizzy on now. Well,

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I don't know what the number is right now.

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What do you mean? You don't know

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what how can you

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put in perspective? He owns a jet. He does. Yeah, he's got a jet and we drove into shipping and there's a hangar and he built the hangar because he's jet wouldn't fit in it. And so you build a new one so you can really get in it. Yep,

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correct.

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And sorry. Hey, he's so was the first KFC then around here in Australia.

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Well, I'm not sure if it was the first one in treating you

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like you're some sort of KFC? Yes.

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Now Hang on. This will will my PDA doesn't know any details

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in the check. After one hour. One researcher an audience member doesn't know where the that's where it's like it's super small. So a lot of like, we know a lot of the family and that's how the story's been I guess past and also it's a good story. Yeah, so basically, I've been to a few years ago and stuff I'm not sure what it's like now but every guys say from ship it in to the start of the Napoleon highway was on the Bonneville KFC. Yeah,

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it's gonna

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five I'm trying to remember there was I think it was an old Bray where I had my worst KFC experience ever bought. can't remember the exact so let's scrap quantifies the worst KFC experience. I just remember being my brother was playing basketball as part of the things like big v. I think it was cold, like touring. And I just remember my dad saying that it was the worst KFC I'd ever been to actually thinking about my childhood was a lot of listening to my dad rage about about KFC I remember the endeavor hills KFC wouldn't serve bacon

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because the owners were Muslim. And obviously this was going back what, like 15 years, and it was just like, it was a massive topic. Yeah. Can you believe? Can you believe that these Muslims have come here? That's literally what it was like. It was crazy. And so like,

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people would go to the KFC and specifically say, can I have of Zynga burger with bacon, and then lose their mind. Isn't that

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crazy? Right? Drink time.

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Definitely. Somehow you've skipped forward in this podcast. We get a hand Josh drink. We've got a bunch of drinks. You don't need to reset. I don't want you to. I don't want you to say the color. I don't give a shit about the color anymore. The kids will loving that. Well.

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Does the best bit. Let's just

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do we get a cheer for the color. Now. We got nothing. We just gotta do I have they gone.

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Are you still fly? We're just gonna do the flavor. I'm handing over one. You can't smell it. You just need to drink it. Have a little sip. And then tell me the flavor. I like what you think after he sleeps. look like a purse. The last Oh,

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it tastes like sit before I even tested. It's got cinnamon. Okay, well,

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go. Drink. Drink. Drink.

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He's not driving back to

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what's the word that comes to mind.

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This is all responsible serving of alcohol with

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the burgers into by the way. That was definitely. Um,

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that was fireable.

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Here we have this is Jordan. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you. Good. How are you? Oh, man. Look, man. That really? That's not chili. What is that? It's cinnamon.

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It's You got it. Cinnamon whiskey, man. I'm

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have a chip just to help my throat.

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Let's be let's be clear. He drink about one meal a day. This is what

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on sugar and gets it you don't have a play that song fireball by that. That's that

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drink

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now just eating chips. To which one Muslim? It was? Where's the Bernie scowl that Yeah. I'm using I'm ref woke up. What do we were gonna call you back. Bernie shades. You've got three, nine. Yeah. Which one? Is it? Well, it really depends on and paydays going he's obviously that's means he's sick of it.

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Thanks, Mike. Good to say. Yes. Thanks, bro.

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How audiences

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somewhat

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reduced. So what do you want? What should we call you? Well,

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it really depends on when you met me that

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Okay, so you've gone through a few iterations? a Mac Yeah.

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A Mac that's pretty oj

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judgment. Miami at shades by

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Sukkot. You're a Mac guy. Yeah. I'm gonna know. Jay Yeah. Jay. So let's

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just a minute coffee. That's Yeah, yeah, that's your real name. What's your driver's license number?

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So just that fireball is horrendous.

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Shout out the Bible. I don't know. Like, yeah.

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Anyway, so I'm,

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instead of triggers, driving, I like bringing back those memories of being tied. Coming back from the airport. And heading over heading back to work. Heading back to share button. Meaning I had to fucking go to work at 4am the next day. And I wasn't getting home till 8:30pm. And, and so I have these feelings when I come into town. But seriously, this place like it's defining moments in your life and shipping information like that. The two years that I came from having my own personal training studio in, in a career that I wasn't passionate about, I liked it, and it was bearable and a guy and I had lots of spare time to be able to do something. And Chase and other dream. Then I got the radio geek. And it shifted me out of my life into this new space of being creative every day, five days a week, communicating every single day telling stories and moving here, so like I have such fond memories and be Mac one of my best mates. He got an invite to my wedding. Josh didn't hurtful to me go. Yeah, we we hadn't sort of really started the bromance. Yeah.

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until afterwards. I'm sure that you said to me, we became It was one of those classic cases where you become friends during

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the engagement. And yeah, I remember you specifically said enough. This was just to make me feel better. But you said that you would have preferred for me to come versus some other people. Yeah, which was nice. And there's a few people there. I remember

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listening to the podcast and yeah, I remember hearing that

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story and it wasn't you buy

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it was not you I appreciate you there

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I am. Yeah, I felt like I really made that wedding I knocked it out of the pot as in you you you're lucky you made it there. The siren song had a great time at that wedding. It was like probably one of the best I've ever been to yeah so I

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think that's Shepherd in in a nutshell it's I partied hard and the first bit what I got here with whom

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Mei Mei Mei Mei kill who's

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waiting actually. So I've met like, some of my best friends have come from Chevron and Kellen I live together he was on the radio other radio station up here in shepherd and and and so we live together and partied and drank beers at the pub. Most afternoons played frisbee, we became addicted to frisbee, which is now my business.

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My business frisbee Frisbee. I like the idea that people to get out of that that you are a full time frisbee player.

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So as we are looking back in talking about turning points, what do you remember the beginning of the daily talk show? How did that come about? What's your first memories of it?

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I remember us

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we have a lot of ideas. We're constantly throwing out ideas, concepts. True and we don't go with all of them. I think we've got like, we we do so many that we just pick the best ones. And some reason we said a podcast and you done one before. Yeah. Only did 10 episodes. Sure was a guest style. Once I got it. I knew I know what it was. I loved it that you were sold on the idea. So you like because of your excitement. And I see you as being this person who has your you've almost got shades hair, but we didn't fucking get it. Which one? I am a man a man. Yeah. Okay. It's really, Mac has an ability. And I've talked about on the podcast, he knows where things are going with music and artists to the coming up. He's got an eye for it. And I think you're you that's you for technology and content platforms. And you were like, Fuck, man, I seriously reckon there's a place for a podcast was a format, right? It was like, there was so many

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so many podcasts that are just guests on or there's that might do weekly, or they might do monthly, but there's this radio shows that are doing daily. And I think that there's an opportunity for this for people who want that daily touch point or that daily opportunity to be part of a conversation. And so I think that that was part of the other thing was that we would be speaking on the phone and catching up at least a couple of hours a day. So it doesn't hurt just to be like, Well, why don't we just sort of record this shit and work it out. To be clear, when we're not both working full time jobs for some company and doing that we have businesses that are in my social time that we have literally it's like when you are doing your own thing. You need to surround yourself with like minded people who are going through the same struggles dealing with clients dealing with quoting, dealing with the invoicing dealing with working out where to take the business what's the roadmap what's what's the next five years look like? Should I do this should I do that? Should I say yes Should I sign now and so yeah I think we've covered we covered that on the daily talk show as well right it's

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got all the elements I love fun like it's what we're being young it's like coming up here there's no fucking

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there's no one here to say is there's no return on investment

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there's no clear return on investment yeah you could analyze and come up with a return happiness yet happiness so many things yeah I would have met a man if we hadn't started

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the podcast you know about

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Lily Lily

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Lily I ll y le yep thank

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you needed that plug is it

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really needs it

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he's on Spotify

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my space The other thing I love about shepherd and when I when Bernie Mac and I became nights would get together and in fact and get get a few bees and would just what do you sense i sleazy when you

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get a few bees and would just like Google different artist and he would be showing me new artists that are coming up and what would you know just any like brand like music artist you know, do that shit but I like music Yeah. Not like him though. He's like a music Yeah, yeah. And I'm that's why I was like intrigued by BMX and he would tell me stories about him coming up tell us the one about me so early in Australia if you don't if you don't know who that is. He's an aria award winning fucking breakthrough Australian hip hop artists that to the world now yeah he's got a record label in Australia and he's a big dog in the industry tell us like for tell us about you and him the early days that story about how you guys sort of came up yeah at the record labels are you she tells him at first of all you calling up front like those guys, hilltop. Hold your blessing. So getting into their record label? Yeah. Yeah. So

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what happened was, I used to play a lot of tennis, and

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we're all good rap stories.

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Great

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to have you thought about. Have you thought about wrapping go on. So yeah,

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perfect. Yeah. Now, I used to just reward myself with the city every week. So if I played well. So I end up getting into hip hop. I really loved hip hop, but I never knew what Australian hip hop was.

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Your three CDs from the whole year was killed it every week, every cell like probably had, like,

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12, buddy, and drive. That's like, every weekend, right? Yeah.

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Um, so anyway,

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I bought this once a day, at a choice out of this guy, code, phrase or m&m, and I always knew I was gonna get this m&m. Say day eventually. So I was like, You know what? I'm gonna get this phrase say, day. Then I heard him. He was from Melbourne, he was this this is like, 2005. I'm gonna say like, 2000. And yeah, yeah. 2005. 2006. Yeah.

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And so that happened. Got another CD straightaway, killed it on the tennis court. Perfect. And then not being bliss. And so and then actually, Liam, sister, Liam, who is saving us right now is my cousin.

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It was her 16th birthday and I was going to laugh Okay, just

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make this every good wrap store. It

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is amazing. How

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does the best. Is it Killzone

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right though, it's like a pizza right? And it's like yeah it's got a tough on it. Yeah, it's a dog it's like a brain with enough anyway, so I want to eat the burger really soon. But otherwise we're gonna finish this up Yes.

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So pretty much what happened was supposed to go to this birthday party on a Wednesday night and then it said phrase and bliss and so live here tonight. And I said no fucking way so I stood at the front of Yahoo waited flight has eaten Shepherd Shepherd in Yep, there was like, no one going into this venue. And I was like, I have to make these guys so wide the whole time ended up meeting them by this these guys just opened for Ed Sheeran. Like that's

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how big data nowadays yeah yeah

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but at the time that we're touring around with like get in skis son who was managing them and they were literally like they had no money for their hotel room. Now we're living in a car for time we talked about my you things happen in cycles and it's blistering so and today it's the day we talked yeah so yeah, eventually like I just wiped out the front and then I got offered an internship and I did that in Melbourne I didn't have to like go through uni or anything to get that because I thought I was a head like I was helping them with music and MySpace and Facebook in the very early days and yeah I just now yeah

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now you're working with elite and so aliens alongside you so yeah nobody yeah

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pretty Tell us about that yes so very quickly I guess I'm meaningfully became friends because he was being mentored by phrase and Daniel Meriwether and I was working alongside those guys

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this is gonna be a dumb question but isn't Mary whether the boxer that's

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Mayweather Mayweather and what did you say

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Merryweather Daniel? Mary with a very similar very similar skip battle going Yes. Hey. Um, I just remember specifically one moment hours on a smaller label at the time and it was nice yeah and we're at the snow and he's like I really want these like phrases playing a really big MTV Gagan I was just like bro like you're gonna have this and I guess like last year he was the number one highest selling a shy and single in a shy and album 73 sold out shows around the country lazy and what did you do what was that if you were to pinpoint as a technically we don't have le here but let's pretend you're really sorry this is huge to have a lien on the show welcome really

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really well was it

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how good this is like he just stopped calling me la because it's making me uncomfortable now what was the What do you think was the thing that really had that other people don't have a dime makeup just hard

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work and just willingness to do anything what is hard work look like in the music industry I think it's like playing shows for nothing

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going to regional towns meeting the people building yourself up a lot of musicians these days would never stepped foot in Shepherd in and Ellie's first sold out show was actually in shepherd and

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ours as well

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we had no graduation I also was sold out from pre seed so this

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is where it all starts like this is the hustle This is the drive I can listen to

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what you have to do this is like

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this is the grind god that's gonna be the episode this is the grind this is the grind is

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the god yeah and you gotta do it like you've got to do it yeah

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if I can barely talk show hang on we haven't done at 10 things let's just do chain

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drink oh yes yes love this all right all right we're gonna do two in a row

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any gonna be as bad as fireball

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actually this is not seriously another drink straightaway What is it what's the word that comes to mind you sipping

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lemon lemon weed killer blow that was a blue and let me just save it what's gonna give me a smell

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oh my god it tastes like you read the pools as a kid

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and I just got a bit of money off mom say you took a golf in the poll

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which one was your direction

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okay yeah okay Saratoga people love when I get

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the max points and I really wanted yeah yeah

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we gotta do right hang on here we got he's sipping it

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yeah it's like I'm

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done yeah Orange

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Orange

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ever want my favorite was probably five oh no. The five open go fuck itself. I think the blue woman's quite good. Eliminate 1am at the very first one like the middle you're the shade summer shades. Yeah,

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some of shed some summer shine that was before I'm a Mac actually has a drink here named after him. Which is things to wrap up the outcast that we've learned from making a podcast Who wants to go first? I'll go first.

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Maybe not. 10. I'm just gonna say things. Hidden thing. Sounds good. Just say one. And then I go, okay.

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Don't Don't let your filter get in the way of doing okay,

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this is gonna be really slow. Let's do

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10 coming out like podcasting. And doing as many as you can. The rapid growth in communication. Not only just learning about yourself, but like, how you're communicating to somebody else. And how their communication style differs from yours is huge. You learn so quickly

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elaborate knows. Interesting. So

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how I, I feel like I fumble around with a lot of what I say I feel like I

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I've got other elements that make my communication Okay, unbearable. But I listened to how you talk and you read more articulate than me, you know, a few more words than me, you have maybe more thought out sentences coming out of your head. Like, I might just talk and not think what I'm saying. Right? But I think that adds to it, right? So I embrace you always learn your communication style, and then embrace that. I feel like I have like a analytical on Main going on kind of, but I kind of have energy coming with it as well.

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Funny thing is, we both don't feel like we're in necessarily control of what we're saying. Like, I don't feel like even though you might say those things, which is really nice. I don't necessarily think that it's the problem is that what I'm saying isn't always what needs to be said. You don't always need a long drawn out and said that uses a metaphor but for whatever fucking raise and you could say anything that goes there. Yeah,

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no, I think it's, um, yeah, the,

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the joy of doing it with someone else collaborating with someone else.

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We've got to be additional twine going on in the background is that who's singing, it's reminiscing. She and I bet ya know, I think the collaborating and also just being reminded of the how much podcasting can connect with people and how we can have people all around the world listening and they send us emails that hot at the daily talk show.com and plug or the P o box p o box 400 Abbotsford Victoria good plug crazy Ric seven for the post I put that in

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yeah so I think that I'm I've just really enjoyed the connection with it I feel like I've connected with

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the it almost tastes of friendship

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or it makes it stronger rapidly like learning about somebody like if you've been listening to this podcast for 50 episodes you would you know Josh and I pretty well yeah we're we're pretty honest in this and I don't feel like we're hiding anything

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few things and I came to mind that I was highly but I'm pretty nose up I just don't need a surface ever into any at anyone's mouth is but yeah you do you

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charge you learn about someone and you learn about the friendship pretty quickly yeah

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absolutely well let's finish it there because I really want to Burger Burger sitting in front it's the daily talk show everyone it's been Episode 50 if you've been listening to if you've been people are listening live right now because if you're listening and you've ever send us an email or if you've given us a review or just press the download button and listen to us thanks so much because it's nice to know that that we can connect with you and that you're allowing us to because it's something that's a two way relationship and you have to press the button and wanted to listen here in your ears it's very intimate and thank you very much thanks very much for organizing the the shepherd and two and we're very excited to announce a whole region or tour like it's coming It's coming Stay tuned and be Mac where can people find you online where can I keep up to date with your musings and all the shit that you doing? Yeah.

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So they can find me at at behind the shades with two A's with the behind on the okay. So